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Is the US overpopulated?
Across several threads, including one of my own, I have noticed numerous mentions of overpopulation in the US. This seems to be somewhat of a divisive issue, with no clear-cut answer having emerged, hence I thought I'd float this topic to the forum at large.

Having little knowledge in this field, merely an interest, I hesitate to jump to any conclusions prematurely. My layman observations on the issue are as follow:

- Given the sheer amount of overall land in the US, there would have to be an astronomically large amount of people for the country to begin bursting at the seams. However, due to the general population shifting towards cities, it seems that many urban areas are facing problems of overpopulation, with many a ghost-town being left in their wake.

- Given the sheer amount of fertile land in the US, it is unlikely that the country will be unable to feed its citizens. However, in the case that an Animal Farm-like reality becomes dominant, there could be many citizens without access to food. This would put a cap on the population via agricultural capitalism.

- There exist a staggering number of illegal immigrants in this country, who tend to consume more tax dollars than they put in. The offspring of these immigrants are legal US citizens, with full access to benefits, a tendency to forgo upward social mobility, and generally end up in jail/on the dole. Over time, this could cause fiscal collapse, and the government would be unable to support a growing population with its dwindling pool of resources.

- There exist 300 million people who have different views, agendas - hell, even languages - and from a purely logistical standpoint, this must be nightmarish to manage. National unity is basically a pipe dream given the state of modern America, however I would imagine that a smaller population would ease tensions on an already overburdened system.

These are just my two cents. I'm curious as to what you guys think about the magnitude (and perhaps the quality) of the US population, and what - if anything - should be done with regards to it. American
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(07-08-2019 02:00 PM)JiggyLordJr Wrote:  Across several threads, including one of my own, I have noticed numerous mentions of overpopulation in the US. This seems to be somewhat of a divisive issue, with no clear-cut answer having emerged, hence I thought I'd float this topic to the forum at large.

Having little knowledge in this field, merely an interest, I hesitate to jump to any conclusions prematurely. My layman observations on the issue are as follow:

- Given the sheer amount of overall land in the US, there would have to be an astronomically large amount of people for the country to begin bursting at the seams. However, due to the general population shifting towards cities, it seems that many urban areas are facing problems of overpopulation, with many a ghost-town being left in their wake.

- Given the sheer amount of fertile land in the US, it is unlikely that the country will be unable to feed its citizens. However, in the case that an Animal Farm-like reality becomes dominant, there could be many citizens without access to food. This would put a cap on the population via agricultural capitalism.

- There exist a staggering number of illegal immigrants in this country, who tend to consume more tax dollars than they put in. The offspring of these immigrants are legal US citizens, with full access to benefits, a tendency to forgo upward social mobility, and generally end up in jail/on the dole. Over time, this could cause fiscal collapse, and the government would be unable to support a growing population with its dwindling pool of resources.

- There exist 300 million people who have different views, agendas - hell, even languages - and from a purely logistical standpoint, this must be nightmarish to manage. National unity is basically a pipe dream given the state of modern America, however I would imagine that a smaller population would ease tensions on an already overburdened system.

These are just my two cents. I'm curious as to what you guys think about the magnitude (and perhaps the quality) of the US population, and what - if anything - should be done with regards to it. American

The overall spread of the US doesn't stop the populated being concentrated in small areas. A very large number Americans would rather live on the east or west coasts of the US, so there's always people moving into these areas from other parts of the US. You also have a lot of legal and illegal immigrants coming into these areas.

I live in Los Angeles - it's as overpopulated as fuck here. There's a housing shortage and a shit ton of homeless. Traffic is a bitch and parking is a pain in the arse too. It can take me 30 mins to travel 3 miles on the surface streets in rush hour.

Thousands of apartments are being built in the area so that will only make things worse. The new apartments are at least $2600/month rent for a 1 bed so they're out of reach for somebody on an average income.
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I know this is going to be a really unpopular opinion with the tradcon sentiment here, but IMHO, the world is in a state of "overshoot" thanks to technology. In a state of overshoot, the world's ecological resources are drawn-down. This is why the earth's fisheries are being emptied, freshwater resources strained, topsoil turning into dust, etc... So it is NOT simply a matter of how much physical area exists in which to pack people in like sardine cans. There would be mass starvation long before it got to that point. There needs to be x amount of agricultural real-estate per-capita to provide for our food. That's why in the days of manifest destiny, they told people to go out and plot out your own homestead and live off your own land. Point being that society is grossly ignorant about all of the inputs required for a basic first-world lifestyle and how fragile they may be. We're all limited by the weakest link in that chain. In a debt-based system, growth is necessary to pay back past debts. So policymakers evangelize for growth. You can argue where the breaking point is but you can't argue that you can have infinite growth on a finite planet.

If enough people get wise enough to this, loose immigration policies will tighten. I don't think Trump's policies are informed by this at all, but it would be good to stem the tide of immigration and try to get the US to become more self-sufficient. China, in contrast, is buying up tracts of land around the world in order to insure that its population remains fed. You can very easily see how fractures in the free flow of necessities between countries could very easily create resource wars. Globalism breaks down. If things continue to worsen, then nation-states fail and we devolve further into tightly controlled regional powers, city-states and warlordism.

Also, you have to worry about not just the immediate impact of immigrants, but their downstream birthrates. Native born americans have a low or even negative birthrate. Third worlders have birth rates more akin to the 19th century which is simply not adaptable to the future we're likely to experience. You let them in and you create a cascade effect that lasts generations (assuming they don't fully assimilate).

I could load this post up with corroborating links, but believe me, it's all out there and you have to have been exposed to some of this if you follow the news.

But if you want one single source to brighten your day, enjoy this:

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RE: Is the US overpopulated?
One often overlooked factor is the underutilization of land due to federal policies:
1) the limitation of land for productive use due to designation as federal lands (not including national parks, which are at least useful as recreation). Remember that standoff in Nevada over grazing on federal land?
2) Subsidies to big agriculture, which keeps them cranking out corn and soybeans instead of using the land for something potentially more valuable, or even rotating crops to keep the land more fertile.

Then you have local policies (either govt or HOA) that exacerbate resource scarcity, such as the requirement to have a normal lawn that consumes water that could be used by farms instead, or bans on growing vegetables in your front yard.

The list could be very long.

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The main problem with the US is that people drift from city to city, either chasing jobs or following the crowd to "it" cities. This causes decay in places that are left behind and unsustainable growth in the hotspots. Not to mention that this is turning the country into a homogeneous blob of rootless cosmopolitan consumerists with identity based on mass media, instead of the cultural quirks of their hometown.

If people actually remain in their hometowns and build their lives anchored in them, Rust Belt metropolitan areas and small town America would have never fallen into urban decay or opioid crises.

With the exception of Hispanic farm laborers, immigrants are largely herded into the overcrowded metropolises, growing the population of cities where "locals", whom are just descendants earlier waves of domestic migrants, get priced out; said locals move en masse to interior areas with a more rooted population and replace the culture and values of their new hometowns.

As their new hometowns grow from nice small cities to congested major cities, migrants (domestic or foreign) attracted strictly to the new job opportunities spawned during the initial wave of mass transplants (e.g. currently tech companies in Austin; in 10 years, Amazon HQ3 in Nashville), change the culture of the said city yet again, ushering in overpriced housing, severe traffic congestion, out-of-control crime and/or homelessness, anti-social culture lacking basic manners (let alone the city's original well-known hospitality), and massive immigrant populations. As this occurs, the older wave of mass transplants move on to new, smaller cities where they continue this process.

The end result is a nation with unbalanced population distribution: Overpopulation in the sprawling metro areas, and underpopulation to the point of severe decay in the network of former farm-to-market or industrial small towns in between those cities. Not to mention becoming a nation that completely loses diversity between regions/cities replaced by uncontrolled diversity within regions.
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The US needs to get younger and thinner.
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Yes and it's not slowing down anytime soon. All the more reason to get that money so you can remove yourself from it as much as possible
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(07-08-2019 08:32 PM)Kish Wrote:  The US needs to get younger and thinner.

Under the current social, economic, and political system that I have described in the post above? Ain't happening.

The current rootless, consumerist, multicultural mode that the US is in will only mean more third world immigrants, obesity, SJWism, and antisocial behavior.

So while the US overall will get younger as white Americans get older, all race groups will just get fatter and fatter. At the rate things are going, being slim and good looking will be a defining marker for high socioeconomic status in the US.

Knowing human nature, things will actually have to be unsustainable to the brink of collapse if not a straight up utter collapse, before a new order, whether its Balkanization or large scale system reforms, can be ushered in. As it stands, the US in its current form can still chug along in the immediate future, say at the very least a decade. Only after such a collapse/overhaul will a new good-looking, respectable, baby boom generation be born.
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(07-08-2019 04:59 PM)BlueMark Wrote:  The list could be very long.

I know people here pooh-pooh environmental concerns, but there was a big news item a few months back talking about how much wildlife has been decimated since 1970 (the year I was born).

https://wildlife.org/wwf-finds-global-wi...ince-1970/

Do we really want to convert every square inch of the planet over to agriculture, then proceed to start eating bugs and beyond-meat and eventually soylent green?

Pollinators are in serious danger right now because of pesticides and the like. We can't just wipe all wildlife off the planet and only have livestock and grain and vegetables. It won't work and even if it did, it's not the kind of world most of us would want to inhabit. I'd definitely be one of the old dudes heading to the suicide chamber at that point to watch old movies of nature which no longer exist.

The quality of life just keeps going down as more and more extreme measures are employed to make the planet hold more and more people.

But that's what will happen as long as people feel free to breed with impunity.

This is known as tragedy of the commons.

At what point is the number of humans on this planet enough already (because it's a hell of a lot higher than the rest of recorded history)???

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A growing population no longer has any economic benefit

Limits to growth was right

I know a lot here will brush this stuff aside as lefty propaganda, but if you guys spend as much time looking into these topics as you did studying female nature you'd realize it's not just BS.
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Yes, the pilgrims need to leave.

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Not really. America's population is healthy. They bring in immigrants to balance out the low birth rate. You can go through middle America and see swaths of open space and land. Its increasing but not at the right of China or India.
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I just had the worst drive of my life. I drove to LAX to pick up a friend. It's 10 miles away and my trip overall took nearly 3 hours because of traffic. Subtract 30 minutes from that because I had to pull over and eat at the In -N-Out near the airport to use the bathroom and to eat. LAX is a fucking nightmare. For sure we have overcrowding!

LAX Named World’s Worst Airport by Fodor’s Travel, While Hollywood Burbank Is the Best in US

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Fodor’s Travel named LAX the “World’s Worst Airport” in their crop of travel awards released Wednesday
. The rankings also gushed over the Hollywood Burbank Airport, naming it the “Best U.S. Airport,” in a move that will surely ignite a crosstown rivalry not seen since the USC and UCLA football teams went 21-20 in 1967.

In an inaugural list of Fodor’s Travel Awards, the guidebook publisher named their top (and bottom) picks in air travel, cruises and travel tech, as well as naming their favorite globe-trotting influencers. The revelation that the best and worst airports are both in Los Angeles was “an unplanned coincidence,” according to a press release from the company.

Though they noted a lack of flashy amenities at Hollywood Burbank, Fodor’s called it “an agreeable airport in a perfect location,” and praised the airport’s compact design, affordable parking and food options.

In contrast, the article slammed LAX for its confusing layout, constant construction and “the purgatorial nightmare of traffic” that lead into and out of the terminals.

The travel experts at Fodor’s agreed that “there are, without doubt, by almost all measures, worse airports in this world. Except by one measure — an exceedingly crucial measure. In fact, behind safety, it’s almost certainly the most important measure: getting in and getting out.” And in that, the fourth busiest airport in the world fails.

“Thanks to the improbably stupid design of its catastrophic horseshoe motor-loop, it regularly requires 30 minutes to travel the short mile from the outskirts of the airport to most of its terminals,” the article said.


But it did hold out hope for the loathed airport’s future — a connection from the (unfinished) Crenshaw Metro Line to the airport could alleviate traffic and the construction will, supposedly, be finished one day. But until then, “we’re loathing it,” said Fodor’s.

Burbank Airport responded warmly to the accolade, tweeting that they were “honored & grateful. LAX did not mention its dubious distinction, instead tweeting that it ranked 8th among airports serving more than 70 million passengers from the Skytrax World Airport Awards.

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Quote:The 80-year-old Fodor’s Travel airport guide has a definitive and destructive verdict: LAX is the very worst airport in the world. It’s so supremely bad that there’s not even a runner-up (anyone who has traveled through NYC’s airports will probably disagree).

The venerable publication says that the most important feature of an airport is how fast you can get in or out. And by that crucial standard, LAX is insanely bad:

Quote: Thanks to the improbably stupid design of its catastrophic horseshoe motor-loop, it regularly requires 30 minutes to travel the short mile from the outskirts of the airport to most of its terminals. And because Los Angeles was built as a city beholden to the automobile, there is no other way to arrive or depart from this maddening complex of suffering but through the interminable traffic.

Ouch. Harsh. But they are not mistaken. There’s no way to get to any of LAX’s nine terminals—like Dante’s nine hell circles, the guide points out—except by car, turning any visit to the airport into “a purgatorial nightmare of traffic” going both in and out.

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The guide adds that “never-ending construction” at LAX adds to the nightmare with perennial lane closures that only worsen traffic.

Fodor’s calls Delta terminals repugnantly vile: “Because of the construction separating the two terminals, Delta passengers show up at terminal 3, Delta’s original terminal, only to there be told to head to terminal 2 to check their bags, then rush back to terminal 3 to go through security.”
Sounds like a lot of fun to me.

In brighter news, Fodor’s says that the newly expanded Singapore Changi Airport, designed by Safdie Architects, is the best, with fluid traffic, superb international cuisine choices, relaxing walk-through gardens, and great shopping. The runner-up: Seoul’s Incheon.
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US overpopulated!? Maybe the coasts and cities, but you should thank your lucky stars you don't live in England! It's getting to be standing room only here nowadays. I love the countryside and live in one of the most rural parts of the UK but it's getting harder and harder every year to just get the fuck away from all the crazies. The wide open spaces of the US look like heaven to me.

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(07-09-2019 02:57 AM)Richard Turpin Wrote:  US overpopulated!? Maybe the coasts and cities, but you should thank your lucky stars you don't live in England! It's getting to be standing room only here nowadays. I love the countryside and live in one of the most rural parts of the UK but it's getting harder and harder every year to just get the fuck away from all the crazies. The wide open spaces of the US look like heaven to me.

I'm originally from England and I go back every year. As least in London you can always use public transport to get almost anywhere. In LA that's not an option.
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It is over populated, as is the UK and Europe in general. Lets not talk about Asia though. All I know is the population cannot keep growing like it is without some controls coming into play via nature. EVery species has these moments.
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Didn't that yglesias hack from the ((center for American progress)) get caught saying that he envisions a future America with 1.2 billion people?

That's where the elites who are currently pushing mass immigration think the population of America can/should be.

It's important to realize that the current debt based economy requires constant growth of demand, aka an ever increasing number of consumer. So, whatever today's rhetoric is about conservation or environmentalism is not to be taken seriously.
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(07-09-2019 10:09 AM)Foolsgo1d Wrote:  It is over populated, as is the UK and Europe in general. Lets not talk about Asia though. All I know is the population cannot keep growing like it is without some controls coming into play via nature. EVery species has these moments.

Agreed. The planet is over populated. China and India being prime examples. Africa as well. There are way too many people for the resources available. And the methods for producing resources aren't getting more efficient by leaps and bounds like the populations are. There seems to be about 30% to 40% of the people producing wealth and resources and the rest surviving on the scraps and charity from that percentage of producers.
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There's not a population problem there's a people that want to live in popular places problem. There's plenty of room in the Midwest. More people want to live in NYC and Miami than Billings, Montana and North Platte, Nebraska.
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(07-10-2019 03:43 PM)RichardCranium Wrote:  There's not a population problem there's a people that want to live in popular places problem. There's plenty of room in the Midwest. More people want to live in NYC and Miami than Billings, Montana and North Platte, Nebraska.

Again, overpopulation isn't simply a matter of the inconveniences of physical crowding (traffic, smog, crime statistics). It's a matter of carrying capacity.
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Modern technology and advanced farming methods, provided you have the manpower willing to perform sustainable farming, would allow the US to more than double the population and maintain it. Europe is the same size as the US, has worse growing seasons, and yet they still have 700 million people.

But a people that is rooted to their land and takes pride in their physical labor goes squarely against the elite's objective of harnessing the population to be atomized liquidized consumers. Put bluntly, having the country care about something that isn't financially profitable simply won't happen even if it's in the people's best interests.

As has been touched upon in the urban planning thread, a lot of properties have been thrown up solely with short-term profits in mind. Of course this gives us problems like sprawl, lack of community, bad mass transit, and so on in the US. Europe and Asia dodged the bullet because their societies are so old that the culture and community sort of shielded them from that kind of thing, or at least slowed the process. That's why those places have so many more people as well, despite having fewer natural resources and worse land.

If the elites were actually scared about the negative impacts of "overpopulation," they'd be finding ways to cull the population of the third world. But too many people is apparently only an issue when it's people in developed countries.
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Not concerning just the U.S., but awareness that nature reserves and biodiversity (from plants to lions and elephants) are important and worth keeping around is important. Don't let anyone tell you that this is a leftist issue. Remember that the best of nature is mostly for the better off to enjoy (Safari's, Amazon Rain Forest, etc.).
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Take a 2 day drive from Corpus Christi to Grand Forks and tell me how the US is overpopulated.
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Without trying to drift this thread into a more general or global perspective, I think the problem is that:
1) people will go towards the IT cities or just cities in general, as they are seen as places where you have most jobs or a better salary (but paradoxically you spend that amount, that you earn more in transportation, higher rents, higher prices etc)
2) it creates overpopulation in hotspots, but people are not willing to move out, because for the lack of jobs, although they could open their own business in some smaller cities, where there is basically nothing
3) furthermore the birthrate is not a problem in the US or the West in general, but mostly in Muslim nations and some African countries in particular. Massimmigration is a problem for the fact that immigrants will also rather choose Los Angeles over some town in Idaho.

The same can be repeated in many other countries, such as Sweden where most people go to Stockholm but not Lulea in the North or hell even here in Luxembourg, although in small dimension, but here the population was UNDER 400'000 in 1990 and it is now more than 600'000 + let's not forget everyone who crosses the borders to come to work which gives Luxembourg a day population of over 1'000'000.

How can we solve it? There are few ideas which should be supported:
- Location independent income; seriously it is not so difficult as most people might think, sure 2000 USD will give you less in LA than in Boise, however you might have a better quality of life with these 2000 USD in Boise than in LA.
- Opening businesses in ghost towns; the only way to destroy this vicious circle is by creating businesses. Sure it is risky, but it is also risky to stay employed and live from paycheck to paycheck. Trust me, there will always be some people complaining about not having business X or having to drive 100km for one thing.
- Birth control in poor countries and tighter borders in the West; do you want to come? As tourist? I don't mind, you are welcome! To make business, great we hope you can find everything in X days and have a nice flight back? To work here? Hm ok as what? What Job x sorry but we already have X amount of people with this title in unemployment, unfortunately we can't take you.
As for foreign aid, they should be flowing in sex education for the third world. Condoms too, it is better to spend money for that, than to receive millions of 'doctors' in Europe and pay for them. Same applies to the US but obviously with other kinds of immigrants.

My two cents.
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RE: Is the US overpopulated?
(07-10-2019 03:43 PM)RichardCranium Wrote:  There's not a population problem there's a people that want to live in popular places problem. There's plenty of room in the Midwest. More people want to live in NYC and Miami than Billings, Montana and North Platte, Nebraska.

So you're saying 100k people in NYC metro area is as bad as 1,000,000 or more?

Re-read what you put and think again.

100k vs 1 million people pissing, shitting, eating, living and dying in the same geographical area is worlds apart in terms of planning and living conditions.
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RE: Is the US overpopulated?
(07-10-2019 03:43 PM)RichardCranium Wrote:  There's not a population problem there's a people that want to live in popular places problem. There's plenty of room in the Midwest. More people want to live in NYC and Miami than Billings, Montana and North Platte, Nebraska.

Truth be told, there's just nothing going on in flyover America and that's why you see people flocking to the Big 4 (New York, Chicago, LA, Bay Area). Maybe add South Florida to that list.
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