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RE: What convinced you Satan is real?
I can't deny the negative reactions to the name of Jesus.

"I worship Vishnu!"
Liberal/atheist: polite smile

"Mohammed is the prophet of Allah!"
Liberal/atheist: "sure, I respect that"

"Jesus Christ is Lord!"
Liberal/atheist: seething anger, fear, hatred

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(07-14-2019 09:18 AM)bucky Wrote:  
(07-14-2019 07:13 AM)infowarrior1 Wrote:  
(07-14-2019 12:15 AM)Meliorare93 Wrote:  In my book Satan, or the Adversary, is part of God's plan... If you read Job 1:6-12 you can see that God gave orders to the Adversary to be as adverse as he could against Job's surroundings to test his faith.

Feel free to disagree with this statement this is just my personal opinion. Does that make God and/or Satan real, I do not know that is the beauty of religion it are beliefs not facts...
No he kept him on a leash. Satan proposed. And God make use of Satan. Its perfectly in keeping with how Ancient Kings would act.

God despite his omnipotence/Omniscience/Omnipresence have to act in a certain fashion due to his character and legality since the fall handed control of creation to an Angelic administration by which they are able to justly judge man. In those PDF you will see why:

christianthinktank.com/cross04nt.pdf

christianthinktank.com/victor.pdf


The cross of Christ is necessary for God to legally act against Satan in ways that he couldn't before.

I've heard that a common Jewish perception of Satan is as an agent of God, in charge of tempting and testing mankind.

Tempting and testing yes. But a rebel too who led a 3rd of angels in revolt against God.

Given that humanity fell and their natures became corrupted with evil who subsequently de facto transferred the authority over creation over to Satan and the rebellious heavenly power and that as angelic rulers in accordance with their original purposes as executioners they are justified in punishing mankind with deceptions and other forms of judgment in accordance with Lex Talonis.

It was bound to be a mess which humanity had no chance against until the coming of Christ which makes possible the overrule by God the Father as a result of the work of the Cross of their Authority which will legally allow Christ not only to redeem his people. But also to take by force the power over creation itself and the human kingdoms thereof which will be consummated at the 2nd coming.

The current Jewish(Pharisee) rejection of the Messiah I think has also colored their worldview too.
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“What convinced you Satan was real?”

‘From the first sip, the Natural Scientist denys the very conception of God. At the bottom there He sits, waiting.’

To take a Materialist’s perspective, full of baseless assumptions, assertions, and axioms, this physical universe is woven together in patterning threads of fractal chaos; undulating, seemingly breathing, in rhyming spirals of time. Each energetic expression emanated from and projected unto each other. A schism of caverning mirrors, shards staring back and forth, their beaming back becoming star-streaked void as Everything tumbles and twists and dances at the beck of one another. At the kernal of this Awesome Thing is a mechanism, a twisting, twirling, elegant, graceful thing, something which flickers so fast as to be invisible. It is a slow, and roiling Spirit, its movements so subtle, so sublime and supreme, that as soon as it is sensed it slips into the deep once more. An un-nameable, unknowable thing.

The elegance with which the stars entwine...

Here. On the ground floor. Riding the wave. Only the gross can be grasped here, for as soon as it is held, as soon as it is measured, it becomes trapped in crystalline gravitational-structures tumbling through the vast cosmos. Snowflakes swirling in a blizzard. The wave-function collapses, the waveform becoming a closed, maleable element within a larger system. Entropy arises from this mechanism, degeneracy sets in, and things begin to unravel. Tangentially, at the edge of banded quanta, stratified and scintillating between streaks of Nothing, there is this same fractal fraying.

This friction creates the need for a release valve. The presence of only one thing, moving effortlessly for an Aeon, necessitates the existence of another thing through it’s emanations. This may be the root of half-lives and background radiations, the Materialist’s boutonnière. It is here that a culling is needed, to cut the wheat from the chaff, and a carnival of drama (alternating currents of tragedy and comedy) arises to recognize the absolute triviality any One thing is in the face of Everything.

Competition, as essence clashes in sloshing waves through the flow of time. This is Natural Selection, this is brutal and beautiful Nature - sensuously savage. Yet, it is all the sweetness of life as well - all imaginable. And this inherent, inherited patterning induces a duality. Good and Bad. Good and Evil. Above and Below. There in is the natural mechanism arising from the system, and a possible metaphysical explaination for the existence of an office of adversarial angels within the heights of the Host.

A thought. The order of Satan does His work when they present themseves as an adversary who is overcome by manifesting Him within oneself. A challenge bestowed, knowingly. And with perfect patterning, without Sin, this constant perturbation permits the ever spiraling of any - individual - essence. Enveloped eternally within the Spirit of the Depths. In a Hallmark way, it is a challenge to grow in the ‘best’ way, considering the infinite complexity of innumerable, individual elements interacting with one another in inexplicable ways. Ineffable.

What is it then when we challenge one another with the intent that they ‘fail’? The stupid games we play...
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(07-14-2019 09:59 AM)infowarrior1 Wrote:  It was bound to be a mess which humanity had no chance against until the coming of Christ which makes possible the overrule by God the Father as a result of the work of the Cross of their Authority which will legally allow Christ not only to redeem his people. But also to take by force the power over creation itself and the human kingdoms thereof which will be consummated at the 2nd coming.

The current Jewish(Pharisee) rejection of the Messiah I think has also colored their worldview too.

The hebrew mind (= heart, same point you'll see in a second) regarding God is that, in essence God is in control over everything, and "time" is not a beginning and an end (as we modern, westerners think) but on a continuous plan and plane. We can think abstractly about time and thus, being out of time --- though not totally conceive of what it really really means being created beings at this time and place. This flexibility actually, to the more advanced, will show one that relationships are the key to focus on for us, and not juridical ones, or legalistic thinking, which are all by essence a framework which is transactional.

In fact, the very heresies and bad religions of the world take on a transactional aspect, which makes it simple for some but creates hatred in others, because "fairness" also is a transactional concept. And life isn't fair. Sound familiar?

God has covenants with his people but the truth shown by Christ is via proper understanding of order, behavior, and relationship, which is shown by the Holy Trinity ultimately, something which existed in eternity and not legalistically.

Christ doesn't do anything legally. It doesn't even make sense to say that. He defeats death and shows what it means to be truly human, which is what everyone is called to be, with all of its virtues. He as high priest aids us, when we are willing, to enter into this mystery as priests with the One High Priest. He came in order to show what sacrifice (and love) is, but as the God-man, having been raised from the dead, He will execute judgment by his very being, which is truth when the fulfillment of this world comes. "Heaven" and "Hell" are precisely this: the states that you are in, in relation to the truth of the universe, who is a person.

The adversary, or the anti-christ (anything "in place of christ", ie an idol), is that which is in chaos and disarray because it loves darkness more than light --- going against the very purpose for which it was created.

Don't focus on disorder. Let us all try to be examples of order, admitting we are weak and flawed and not lying about our transgressions, asking God to help us, however many times we fail.

"For we do not have a high priest who is unable to sympathize with our weaknesses, but one who in every respect has been tempted as we are, yet without sin."
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I was sitting on the fence for years, but then I witnessed true evil and malevolence that only the devil could be responsible for.
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(07-15-2019 06:05 PM)Matsufubu Wrote:  I was sitting on the fence for years, but then I witnessed true evil and malevolence that only the devil could be responsible for.


I recall watching a documentary where one (if not two) police detectives detailed how serial killer Ted Bundy was largely normal in behaviour, if not somewhat charismatic during their questioning / investigation.

However...
When they exposed one of Ted Bundy's secrets, ol' Bundy suddenly became rather angry & sinister.
The police detective even said he suddenly smelt a measure of sulfur...

Perhaps the cop was simply attempting to rationalize in his own mind how one man (Bundy) could be so deranged & murderous.
Or perhaps, there was a far more sinister / spiritual element at play...
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Los Angeles, California...after midnight.

Dreams are like horses; they run wild on the earth. Catch one and ride it. Throw a leg over and ride it for all its worth.
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Does anyone remember back during the 2016 election when someone posted a tweet showing a video of some strange creature (human) wrapped in bandages and garbage wearing a mask and prancing around on all fours while dragging empty cans attached to string? It was in the middle of the street at night.

The tweet accurately described the impish movements it was making as "capering".

I can't seem to find the damn thing and perhaps that's for the best but it was about as demonic a creature as I've ever seen footage of.

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(07-16-2019 10:17 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  Does anyone remember back during the 2016 election when someone posted a tweet showing a video of some strange creature (human) wrapped in bandages and garbage wearing a mask and prancing around on all fours while dragging empty cans attached to string? It was in the middle of the street at night.

The tweet accurately described the impish movements it was making as "capering".

I can't seem to find the damn thing and perhaps that's for the best but it was about as demonic a creature as I've ever seen footage of.

Isn't that a Chemical Brothers video?

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(07-12-2019 11:11 AM)Foolsgo1d Wrote:  How much of this evil is carried out by humans? I'm noticing far too many serious offenders (murderers, rapists, child molesters etc) get off on lenient sentences or as I am currently seeing are being let out on early release because they've turned over a new leaf or so as the parole board would call it.

I believe this is all part of the agenda to destroy our societies. Very lenient punishments for very serious violent and sexual crimes.

Speak to just about rank and file member of Victoria Police down here in Melbourne and you'll hear angry they are that they keep locking the scum up and the judges keep just giving them slaps on the wrist. It all started when the put Christine Nixon in charge of the cops (feminist leader).

(07-12-2019 11:23 PM)JackinMelbourne Wrote:  It was very late at night, the light was dim and as I looked at her face while power thrusting into her from above, her face morphed into something "demonic" and evil looking. I fully blame it on the sleep deprivation and darkness which tends to play visual tricks as your brain tries to fill in the blanks.

Yes - I too have experienced this face morph thing. It was f**king creepy. It was during something sinful that someone was doing as well.

(07-16-2019 10:17 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  Does anyone remember back during the 2016 election when someone posted a tweet showing a video of some strange creature (human) wrapped in bandages and garbage wearing a mask and prancing around on all fours while dragging empty cans attached to string?

Yes - I know that freak, like in a straight jacket or something. Reminds me of this weird 'opening ceremony' as well

https://vigilantcitizen.com/vigilantrepo...lt-ritual/

I mean serious, WTF. This isn't just 'art' like they claim.
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Relevant...





Quote:This video is a recap of previous Illuminati symbolism represented in various Superbowl Halftime shows. Madonna, Beyonce, and Katy Perry's performances are all re-examined as we approach the 2016 Halftime show featuring Coldplay, Beyonce, and Bruno Mars.

FYI White Rabbit has some excellent videos on this topic.
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Drag Queens

You seen the ones with the horns? MFers look like demons. Google “drag queen with horns”
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This seems like important information to pass on:

- I'm now having weekly sessions with the Exorcist. The idea is to remove the lower level spirits first, and occasionally something big might evidence itself that can also be cast out. Eventually, the pattern should reveal itself to identify the General of Hell I'm assigned to. Unsurprisingly, a while back, I posted a video on 'The Table', that mentioned this concept in relation to countries. I've noticed Abba always prepares you for what is coming.

- Learning St Ignatius' Rules for Spiritual Discernment last year has paid off: God has apparently given me the Grace of Discernment, and I was able to correctly-identify six Demons and one Legion influencing me this week due to their attacks, though the latter was admittedly-easy: "Let us in again." I expected the Exorcist to pooh-pooh a couple of them.

- I've now been getting the kind of vicious, accusatory attacks my Sister has been suffering for a couple of years now. i.e. "You have squandered all my graces." Note the third person. They are accusers. Once they make a statement like that, they've 'tagged' themselves, and can be cast out by an Exorcist. As he put it: "They're really rather stupid."

- They fear Jesus, and have to obey him, but can still pretend to be Him. This is why discernment is so important, because you're not always hearing God. However, they hate Mary, and invoking her seems to make them flee. One that instinctively came to me, which nipped something very bad in the bud, was saying: "If you're God, Praise Mary's humility."

Instant silence, after hours of this kind of accusatory abuse.

- There were over 500 spirits of Freemasonary around me.

- I picked up something very, very bad from my teenage friendship with a mate who died a couple of years back, who was always a very troubled soul. Two nights after they turned off his life support in 2011, he visited me at night: a heavy, intensely-burning presence opened my bedroom door (and it doesn't ever swing that way by itself). It was one of those things I just 'wrote off' the next morning, but the Priest knew this, and made me renounce my friend's Demons, and it was so vicious that 30 minutes of trying didn't dislodge it.

I met my friend when he was 16: just a month after his Mother died of Cancer in her late 30's; about two years after his older sister died of Leukemia in her mid-teens; two years before his Father died of a heart attack in his early 50's; whilst his 10 year old sister was pregnant to a 28-year-old man, whilst in remand for stealing cars; and five years before his younger brother went down with a blood clot in his young.

The books I studied on Demonic Influence and Freemasonary around Families note that this is a common pattern of events, and is one of the clearest signs to seek Exorcism.

Be careful of who you associate with, because you take on their baggage.

- In relation to that: when you sleep with someone, their demons are allowed legal access over you and vice versa.

This came up because I ran into an Ex just before our last session, and the intense wave of lustful desire that swept over me took me by surprise.

The Exorcist took it in his stride: "We have never separated you from your past sexual partners, have we?"

We set about doing that, but it was only after we started that I realised I should have warned him just how insanely-promiscuous I was since I was a teenager. The poor Priest normally takes everything in his stride, but I could see he was completely-thrown by the intensity of what hit him. Particularly in my 20's, when I was deeply-attracted to the 'hot and crazy' artistic type.

He said that extreme promiscuity would be related to my child abuse, and quoted book and chapter of one of the Theology Books to explain it.

The effect of this separation was notably-strong, and I'd advise any forum member going down this road to make it a priority.

- If anyone doesn't think Satan is real, or that God is guiding me, I live in a town of 30,000 people. What are the odds that I, with my family having been shown to me by Mary to be under a Freemasonary Curse, should stumble across a Priest who:

- Recognised the Freemason Curse in me;
- Is the Diocese Exorcist;
- Has a Doctorate in Spiritual Theology, of which I've been delving heavily into over the last 18 months, and have already acquired the books he uses;
- Knows and praises the work of Father Ripperger, whose guidance got me this far, and uses the same terminology, so I can follow easily;
- Specializes in sexually-rehabilitating adults who were sexually-abused as children by teaching them Sex-Positive Moral Formation?

I won't write any more going forward: there's too much work to do, but I would advise those who suspect this kind of unnatural influence over their family or their behaviour to get it investigated.
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RE: What convinced you Satan is real?
Watching Saturday Night Live:

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In all seriousness a few personal and public instances has unmasked the dark prince for me.

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I am becoming more convinced that it might be true. It might explain the poison that has crept into so many people's minds.

Today I checked on an old, female friend from my youth that I have on facebook. I long ago unfollowed her so every once in a while I do a manual check of her timeline to see how she's doing.

As an aside: She's a few years younger than me (early 40s) but now looks much older. My wife thought she was in her 60s.

Anyway, what do I see but her and her husband tearing the asshole out of some "friend" not fully onboard with the whole trannys-are-good agenda. He's a hateful bigot, etc. This just because he said he didn't agree with the whole identity thing. He never said anything bad, he just refused to say he was onboard. He became literally Hitler right then and there.

This same woman friend raised two children, one a very rough autist and one a lesbian both of who are now out of their house, which is actually a 60 acre farm.

With very few exceptions most people from my past have caught this poison. The few that haven't stick out like sore thumbs as they are full on DGAF men, generally.

An evil supernatural influence would explain this crap nicely. Now let's get on to the part where we're hunting them with our rifles and blessed ammunition.
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Fashion the armor of God and if they come, they come.

Personally I'm beginning to believe that they'll fall upon each other. Wrath is to be avoided though it's admittedly difficult. The exact negative emotions these twisted people inspire in us are the same cracks through which evil may enter. One of the most difficult lessons to absorb is that you can easily become evil while fighting evil. I'm sure it makes sense at the time. How can you go wrong destroying evil? But it happens.

I'm trying to forgive these monsters, not in the sense that I'll allow them to harm me or mine but in the sense that I will not allow them to conjure up hatred in my soul. If they have to be put down then so be it, but it should be nothing to take delight in.

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(07-21-2019 06:43 AM)AnonymousBosch Wrote:  - They fear Jesus, and have to obey him, but can still pretend to be Him. This is why discernment is so important, because you're not always hearing God. However, they hate Mary, and invoking her seems to make them flee. One that instinctively came to me, which nipped something very bad in the bud, was saying: "If you're God, Praise Mary's humility."

Why can't they pretend to be Mary? And why is Mary more powerful in regards to demons?
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RE: What convinced you Satan is real?
Ive witnessed and exorcism before. It was crazy.
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RE: What convinced you Satan is real?
Please forgive my previous comment which I think was made foolishly. So I will try to rephrase my question.

What I dont understand is why demons are much more afraid of Mary.

And if its a possibility that demons can fake being mary as they can fake being christ.
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RE: What convinced you Satan is real?
Just logic really. The existance of God is logical, and since there is a "yin and a yang" to everything such as lightness and darkness, good and evil, pain and pleasure, kindness and cruelty ... then there must also be an opposite to God whom we call satan. Therefore if God is good, then satan must be evil. If God is love, then satan must be hate. If God is truth, then satan must be deception. If God is order, then satan must be chaos. And so on.

But clown world definitely helps to solidify my belief that satan exists.
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I just had an encounter with Satan in another forum. After testifying to an atheist about the Holy Spirit and His gift of healing, I got a private message from some 22yo, calling me a "brother", who started to "warn" me and demanded to remove my "false information", and also suggested to false testify in public to not alienate unbelievers from Christianity.

Distinctively different was the vitriolic vibe I got from those messages, which felt strangely familiar, while other Spirit-filled Christians I wrote with were very gentle and humble. In his third message he revealed himself as a Jew, who supposedly converted to Christianity at age 18. I promptly blocked and deleted him.
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RE: What convinced you Satan is real?
(07-29-2019 06:56 PM)wwtl Wrote:  I just had an encounter with Satan in another forum. After testifying to an atheist about the Holy Spirit and His gift of healing, I got a private message from some 22yo, calling me a "brother", who started to "warn" me and demanded to remove my "false information", and also suggested to false testify in public to not alienate unbelievers from Christianity.

Distinctively different was the vitriolic vibe I got from those messages, which felt strangely familiar, while other Spirit-filled Christians I wrote with were very gentle and humble. In his third message he revealed himself as a Jew, who supposedly converted to Christianity at age 18. I promptly blocked and deleted him.

Satan tried to be my friend on Myspace. No joke.

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RE: What convinced you Satan is real?
Jesus Christ, Son of God, convinced me that Satan is real.

"It is because we know what clear water is, that we are offended by foul waters. It is only because we know Christ that we begin to see evil in its depth, because evil is relational. Evil has no substance of its own. It is a parasite on goodness and the more Christ-like we are, the deeper is our vision of the evils, of the world, and the evils that can creep into the church."

- the Venerable Fulton J. Sheen
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