Post: #1

https://www.archysport.com/2019/07/only-...c-society/

Quote:In this particular case, the man stayed overnight with a woman with whom he had previously had contact through social networks for some time. The woman had agreed that he stayed with her overnight, but should also have made it clear that she did not want sex with him. Nevertheless, he introduced his fingers into her abdomen during the night according to the court, the woman accepted this passively and did not agree explicitly.

The court found it proved that the man had committed sexual acts without the woman volunteering. The verdict also did not change the fact that the two had agreed to lie in the same bed and that they were only wearing underwear. The man had not acted deliberately, but grossly negligent.

They agreed to sleep together in their underwear. He slipped one finger, she didn't not object, but he did not continue from there. The next day she reported him for rape, and he was sentenced to jail because there was no clear consent given by the women.
Two jears in jail for slipping a finger.

Post: #2

He should have just told the court he was Muslim. Instant not guilty

Post: #3

(07-12-2019 10:50 PM)eradicator Wrote:  He should have just told the court he was Muslim. Instant not guilty

Yep, "sexual emergency". It worked before for a 'refugee' when actually raping a 10 year old boy in a cubicle at a swimming pool.

Post: #4

Clown World.

This is a completely normal scenario for men escalating into a sexual relationship. How can any reasonable person consider years in prison to be an appropriate response to this situation?

Post: #5

If this is real, and injustices like this keep happening, I predict a slew of Anders Breivik copycats throughout the next few decades.

Perhaps this is the intention of the powers that be; they wish to create an intentional pressure-cooker scenario knowing full well the consequences and the societal catastrophe that will be unleashed as a result.

Perfect way to dismantle the existing social norms and replace them with a far more intolerant, severe, and Draconian one.

Post: #6

(07-13-2019 04:45 AM)Matsufubu Wrote:  

(07-12-2019 10:50 PM)eradicator Wrote:  He should have just told the court he was Muslim. Instant not guilty

Yep, "sexual emergency". It worked before for a 'refugee' when actually raping a 10 year old boy in a cubicle at a swimming pool.

No, it didn't work. He was convicted, won the right to a re-trial and was then reconvicted.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015_Vienn..._pool_rape

Post: #7

I weep for Sweden. I hope they man up and expel this migrant problem one day.

Post: #8

Yeah - should have said that he converted to Islam and according to his religion being invited into the bed of a woman is giving consent.

And there are plenty of cases where gang-rapists are given extremely lenient verdicts - like community service or a few weeks behind bars for gang-rape!

This however smells to me like White Swedish privilege. Most of the time I heard: "We are not going to have sex tonight" is when I had sex with the girl - obviously with her non-verbal consent.

The stupid verbal consent crap simply does not work and it impedes sane relationships. Sex belongs to the non-verbal consent area and women themselves don't like to spell things out. So it's just the globohomos doing their disruptive deeds and the useful idiots of feminazi progressive believing in the idiotic ideology.

Meanwhile as noted well here - the "new" Swedes won't listen to any of that crap and the women will not dare accuse a "new Swede" of something as trifle as sticking his finger in her bum after she had already invited him into her bed. That bloke would not even wait for her to fall asleep. He will correctly whip out his dick after 10 seconds and then she can decide whether to continue or ask him to leave. In the old times any court would have laughed the woman out: "So you asked a man to come into your bed and now you complain that he took some liberties? What are you? 9? Dismissed. Next!"

Post: #9

What evidence did they have besides 'he said/she said' BS? The slippery slope of this situation is that we can't prove a negative - I can't prove that I wasn't in some crazy woman's apartment on a particular night three years ago, can't prove I was never alone in the break room with a coworker (doesn't have to be a woman, does it? that just popped into my head and scared me, especially in my field of nursing ... ) unless I have a body camera recording 24/7, which is what this might all come down to, I suppose.

Post: #10

< Correct, but our society has valued female statements way too much - partly it's the ingrained White Knight crap.

A famous case was the Mike Tyson conviction. Sure - there may have been some anti-black animosity connected to it, but they literally had only her statements against his. And she admitted to have taken off her underwear in the bathroom and entered Tyson's bedroom all smiles!

"Your honor - I took off my underwear, because I was all wet down there, but then he raped me, honestly!" And the jury bought it! Women will lie just as they lied in the past about promises of marriage 100 years ago. The truth is that sex is a messy convoluted thing and that is why sane societies kept young unmarried people apart and then married off the women as soon as possible. What is happening now is just paying the price for the abandonment of that model.

Post: #11

Here the guy admitted to fingering her (but said he didn't realize she wasn't consenting).
He should have denied everything, but maybe he assumed the judges to be sane.

Post: #12

Ah, thanks - I didn't read the article, but my concern still stands. Last place I worked, some old hag of a battleaxe nurse got her Depends in a twist because I was chatting with a drop-dead gorgeous younger blonde nurse that had come over from the ED to help out our unit, since we were short-staffed. I heard about it all through the grapevine and put it together immediately: this old bitch had told the unit manager that I was "too flirtatious" with the females.

If there's one thing that gets my goat is someone that has the gall to jeopardize a man's income. Women are especially good at this. HR departments are a special level of hell in this respect - give someone a tiny bit of power against their fellow humans and they will push that fucking button every single time.

Post: #13

The train of evidence goes like this.

Both parties agree that they got into bed with each other half naked.
Both parties agree that he put his fingers in her pussy.
Only one party (the guy) claims it was consensual.

Since he cannot prove consent was given then based on the events agreed upon he has penetrated her without consent.

No man is getting prosecuted if he denies sexual activity took place unless she can come up with proof he did something he's not admitting to. Same goes for the supposed "alone in a room with a co-worker" bit. You can't be realistically prosecuted unless you admit to engaging in sexual activity with her or she has evidence proving it.

What this means for unfortunate young men living under the specter of these laws is that you don't talk about your sexual activity with anyone who would give testimony or evidence against you.

If the police arrived to question him and he said "we slept next to each other but nothing happened" then there would have been jack squat they could do to secure a conviction. Unfortunately young men are raised on civic nationalist nonsense that if you did nothing wrong and you just tell the truth then you'll be fine.

You wont.

If you admit to sex and she claims there was no consent then you're in serious trouble.

This is advice to give to your sons/nephews/whatever. Plead the fifth where possible or tell the cops nothing happened. They didn't turn up on your doorstep to give you a high five. If you have to tell them anything then you tell them only what's verifiable by third parties that were present. Other than that you tell them you don't want to discuss the matter and if they compel you to give testimony then you're not doing it without a lawyer present.

As I have to tell people often. It's not the 1950's anymore. Stop playing by 1950's rules. You're going to get rolled.





I don't agree that this is the correct course of action 100% of the time but in this case it absolutely is.

Post: #14

I appreciate the input. A larger part of this picture, so to speak, is the 'guilty until proven innocent' side - ruining a man's reputation with the mere suggestion of some impropriety. Kangaroo courts are filled with white knights, SJWs, etc. It doesn't take much of anything in this infinitely connected world.

Post: #15

Public prosecutors are generally busy people. They also like easy wins to pad out their stats and help them climb the ladder quicker.

What this means is whether you're a decent man or a downright scumbag, don't be an easy target for a public prosecutor.

If your "case" lands on their desk it needs to be something that they look at and sigh "this guy didn't give himself up and he's not going to cop a plea bargain, honestly, it's a bit of a hard sell, what else do you have?"

Post: #16

You can tell its not a 'fugee when the dude gets convicted for fingering her. Gang rape and cultural differences are A-OK but dont do something a strong Swedish woman would object to if you're not.

Post: #17

Is someone going to post the video of Careless Whisper or am I going to have to do it?

Post: #18

(07-13-2019 12:21 PM)Solitaire Wrote:  Kangaroo courts are filled with white knights, SJWs, etc.

The whole world is filled with competitors. They come in the form of white knights, SJW's, feminists...

Post: #19

Abdomen? Like external?

In my experiences, every single time a woman has explicitly told me that we would not be having sex, we ended up having sex.

It’s as green a light as you’ll ever get.

Post: #20

If there are any two cases that you can compare to highlight the depths of Europe's depravity and hopelessness, it is these two.

Fingering a girl willingly sleeping with you for one second? Two years and three months in prison.
Violently raping a helpless 10 year old boy in a public place, leaving them with lasting injuries? Six years in prison reduced to four years afterwards because it was a "sexual emergency".

So the difference between an innocent miscommunication and a brutal sexual assault is... *drumroll* one year and nine months of prison time.

   

Post: #21

(07-13-2019 09:47 PM)SeaFM Wrote:  Abdomen? Like external?

In my experiences, every single time a woman has explicitly told me that we would not be having sex, we ended up having sex.

It’s as green a light as you’ll ever get.

I think this applies to Nordic and German women