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(07-17-2019 04:26 PM)wwtl Wrote:  
(07-17-2019 03:59 PM)dreadcom Wrote:  You have to be very careful in how you approach nofap or it will actually kill your sex drive.

Well it did for while (roughly 40 days). Was the best time of my life so far: Treating 8+ women like 4s - no neediness, pinpoint game - whatever I came up with ad-hoc just worked, dry humor with perfect timing, while not giving a single fuck about outcome...

Careful you say? Wink

nofap killed your sex drive exactly like i warned and you reply stating that was a good thing because it killed your neediness?

what is your point?

have you forgotten the subject of this thread.
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(07-17-2019 04:36 PM)dreadcom Wrote:  
(07-17-2019 04:26 PM)wwtl Wrote:  
(07-17-2019 03:59 PM)dreadcom Wrote:  You have to be very careful in how you approach nofap or it will actually kill your sex drive.

Well it did for while (roughly 40 days). Was the best time of my life so far: Treating 8+ women like 4s - no neediness, pinpoint game - whatever I came up with ad-hoc just worked, dry humor with perfect timing, while not giving a single fuck about outcome...

Careful you say? Wink

nofap killed your sex drive exactly like i warned and you reply stating that was a good thing because it killed your neediness?

what is your point?

have you forgotten the subject of this thread.

Indeed, and it killed all the awkwardness around hot women with it. Permanently changed my personality - in a positive way.

Sex drive returned after a few weeks and I was back to normal, no need to indulge in porn and masturbation again.

I just provided an example how not giving a fuck about sex can lead to excellent results as well. Don't tell me you started fapping again every time your D did go flat?
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Sounds like you need to get on the TRT brah!

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Guys... I think what you are talking about is correct, but you are not really moving it in the right direction. Listen, just popping a boner while interacting with women isn't what's making this connection.

Women respond to passion. Sexual intensity is a part of this, but not all of it. Just raw desire for sex will maybe work with some, but it is my suggestion that you instead think of this in terms of overall passion. Think of yourself wanting to know her, feel her, love her, fuck her, experience all there is of her... stuff like that. Honestly, when you put your thinking into that mode, not only do women tend to respond better to it, but you enjoy the sex way more, because there is a connection beyond the physical to it.
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(07-18-2019 04:05 PM)EndsExpect Wrote:  Guys... I think what you are talking about is correct, but you are not really moving it in the right direction. Listen, just popping a boner while interacting with women isn't what's making this connection.

Women respond to passion. Sexual intensity is a part of this, but not all of it. Just raw desire for sex will maybe work with some, but it is my suggestion that you instead think of this in terms of overall passion. Think of yourself wanting to know her, feel her, love her, fuck her, experience all there is of her... stuff like that. Honestly, when you put your thinking into that mode, not only do women tend to respond better to it, but you enjoy the sex way more, because there is a connection beyond the physical to it.

This is a great point. The best connections that I have had with women is when I felt a true raw passion for her, if only for a certain period of time.

Don't think of it as simply as "popping a boner". I don't think I've popped a boner just from looking at or talking to a girl since I was like 18 lol.

However, if while interacting with her, you begin to just feel this fire of desire to be with her, you are on the right track, and this is the type of woman that you should be pursuing.

After many years in the game, one of the most helpful things that I have learned is how to control this passion around a woman. It is tricky to toe the line of making it clear that I am very much interested, yet also making it clear that if she leaves, it won't affect me at all.
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(07-17-2019 05:49 PM)scotian Wrote:  Sounds like you need to get on the TRT brah!

should someone in their 20s with test levels of 720 get TRT?
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(07-18-2019 04:05 PM)EndsExpect Wrote:  Guys... I think what you are talking about is correct, but you are not really moving it in the right direction. Listen, just popping a boner while interacting with women isn't what's making this connection.

Women respond to passion. Sexual intensity is a part of this, but not all of it. Just raw desire for sex will maybe work with some, but it is my suggestion that you instead think of this in terms of overall passion. Think of yourself wanting to know her, feel her, love her, fuck her, experience all there is of her... stuff like that. Honestly, when you put your thinking into that mode, not only do women tend to respond better to it, but you enjoy the sex way more, because there is a connection beyond the physical to it.

no what you are talking about is NOT at all what I explain in OP.

what I'm talking about is 100% about sex.

I have never not once in my life had a bad interaction with a girl who gave me a hard boner from just looking at her.

And I've fucked girls I'd never met before in less then 5 min when the girl turned me on to this level.

It's extremely powerful.

I would go as far as calling it a magic pill.

The problem is that very few girls turn me on to such high intensity.

I'm working on finding a way to get more girls to have this effect on me.
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Interesting point. I have bad interactions with 30 and older, and overweight women (if I am forced to talk to them), and usually only good interactions with women 18-22.

Hinted to myself last week that I have zero use for old cunts and ham hogs. The only women I could give a fuck about are in shape women from 18-early 20s.

It's by no means a bad thing. Who cares the interaction I have with a fat cunt or an old spunker.
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lets keep this conversation going
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(07-20-2019 08:05 PM)dreadcom Wrote:  no what you are talking about is NOT at all what I explain in OP.
what I'm talking about is 100% about sex.
I have never not once in my life had a bad interaction with a girl who gave me a hard boner from just looking at her.
And I've fucked girls I'd never met before in less then 5 min when the girl turned me on to this level.
It's extremely powerful.
I would go as far as calling it a magic pill.
The problem is that very few girls turn me on to such high intensity.
I'm working on finding a way to get more girls to have this effect on me.

Yeah... I think that sailed over your head. I'm just going to say that if you are getting hard wood from a woman, it's likely just your body responding to her interest level in you. Which is perhaps why you find it so rare.

I have notice over time that this effect is most common for me with extremely slutty women.
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(07-24-2019 11:34 AM)EndsExpect Wrote:  
(07-20-2019 08:05 PM)dreadcom Wrote:  no what you are talking about is NOT at all what I explain in OP.
what I'm talking about is 100% about sex.
I have never not once in my life had a bad interaction with a girl who gave me a hard boner from just looking at her.
And I've fucked girls I'd never met before in less then 5 min when the girl turned me on to this level.
It's extremely powerful.
I would go as far as calling it a magic pill.
The problem is that very few girls turn me on to such high intensity.
I'm working on finding a way to get more girls to have this effect on me.

Yeah... I think that sailed over your head. I'm just going to say that if you are getting hard wood from a woman, it's likely just your body responding to her interest level in you. Which is perhaps why you find it so rare.

I have notice over time that this effect is most common for me with extremely slutty women.

Honestly, I have no idea what you're talking about.

My experience is completely different then yours.

What I talk about in OP has nothing to do with interest indicators or anything like that.

A girl can be eye fucking me or making it obvious she likes me and I will not get this instant hard boner.

Also, I've noticed no patterns at all when it comes to the level of sluttyness of girls who produce this effect on me.

I've had it happen with everything from business women in professional settings to random girls in clubs who i ended up fucking in public within minutes
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(07-24-2019 11:34 AM)EndsExpect Wrote:  ... I'm just going to say that if you are getting hard wood from a woman, it's likely just your body responding to her interest level in you. Which is perhaps why you find it so rare.

I have notice over time that this effect is most common for me with extremely slutty women.

This is probably very common. I've had instant boners from girls (even some I found barely attractive) who clearly indicated they were interested in intimacy, like they start touching your arm or hand and make subtle hints they want to go to your place.

On the other hand, the OP describes an interesting phenomenon, apparently much less common than the universal theme "man sees hot woman, gets instant boner" (going by the reactions in this thread).

This must be a stronger than usual genetic reaction to looks and perhaps to scents/pheromones as well, in cases where the woman was in close proximity.

So to answer the OP's question, I actually think there really is no way to increase the frequency of this effect, other than the following tricks I propose:
- simply meeting many more women to increase your odds
- get close enough to women to catch their scents, especially when they are working out, running, etc. Scent is perhaps an even more important carrier of genetic information (influencing attraction levels) than looks since it contains information about the complementarity of the immune system which is very important for healthy offspring.
- blur your vision (don't wear prescription eyewear if you normally need it): men tend to form an overly optimistic (attractive) image of the women around them. For example, women tend to look more attractive (slimmer) from far away than from closeby. So in way, it may be that the less you see the better.
- alcohol: it's known to lower men's standards and perceptiveness
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(07-25-2019 06:57 AM)DoneDeal Wrote:  
(07-24-2019 11:34 AM)EndsExpect Wrote:  ... I'm just going to say that if you are getting hard wood from a woman, it's likely just your body responding to her interest level in you. Which is perhaps why you find it so rare.

I have notice over time that this effect is most common for me with extremely slutty women.

This is probably very common. I've had instant boners from girls (even some I found barely attractive) who clearly indicated they were interested in intimacy, like they start touching your arm or hand and make subtle hints they want to go to your place.

On the other hand, the OP describes an interesting phenomenon, apparently much less common than the universal theme "man sees hot woman, gets instant boner" (going by the reactions in this thread).

This must be a stronger than usual genetic reaction to looks and perhaps to scents/pheromones as well, in cases where the woman was in close proximity.

So to answer the OP's question, I actually think there really is no way to increase the frequency of this effect, other than the following tricks I propose:
- simply meeting many more women to increase your odds
- get close enough to women to catch their scents, especially when they are working out, running, etc. Scent is perhaps an even more important carrier of genetic information (influencing attraction levels) than looks since it contains information about the complementarity of the immune system which is very important for healthy offspring.
- blur your vision (don't wear prescription eyewear if you normally need it): men tend to form an overly optimistic (attractive) image of the women around them. For example, women tend to look more attractive (slimmer) from far away than from closeby. So in way, it may be that the less you see the better.
- alcohol: it's known to lower men's standards and perceptiveness

this is a great comment.

thank you.

You actually made me realize that some of the girls I fucked in nightclubs within minutes where actually NOT from this effect and where just easy girls throwing themselves at me.

The genetic match you talk about is what I'm talking about in OP.

One theory I've been pondering is that this effect is caused because me and the girl have some sort of genetic match and nature wants us to reproduce.

and your suggestion makes perfect sense.

If you are correct and these are just girls I'm a good genetic match with then the only way to have it happen more often would be to meet more women.

The one problem with the genetic match theory is that if that was the case would i not have noticed similarities in appearance with the girls who have this effect on me?

When i think of the last 3 girls who had this effect on me, it was one white girl in the club, one brown girl in a professional setting and one Asian girl in a professional setting.

Physically these 3 girls had nothing in common.

If this magical effect is caused by a genetic match then I'm assuming the girls would share some physical traits.

Or maybe the genetic match happens at a level not visible like organs and immune system.

what do you think?
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(07-25-2019 04:13 PM)dreadcom Wrote:  The one problem with the genetic match theory is that if that was the case would i not have noticed similarities in appearance with the girls who have this effect on me?

When i think of the last 3 girls who had this effect on me, it was one white girl in the club, one brown girl in a professional setting and one Asian girl in a professional setting.

Physically these 3 girls had nothing in common.

If this magical effect is caused by a genetic match then I'm assuming the girls would share some physical traits.

Or maybe the genetic match happens at a level not visible like organs and immune system.

what do you think?

Women can be physically attractive (for a particular man) in different ways. There is not just one type of looks or body that is attractive for a man. Physical attractiveness is based on many factors, some of which are subjective, and actually also include reciprocity (so noticing that a woman is attracted to you can make her more attractive for you as well).

So I don't think it is surprising that these girls who had that effect on you looked very different.

See these sources:
https://www.sparknotes.com/psychology/ps.../section6/
https://www.2knowmyself.com/Why_attracti...subjective
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I think another issue many having including myself is general aloofness. I find I can go an entire day and at the end realize not a single woman turned my head.

Upon further investigation I noticed I either wasn't getting out of the house/work enough or when I was out, so focused on getting my shit done most people didn't register.

Now I make it a point to "scan the room" wherever I am. If there is an attractive woman I appreciate it, enjoy her curves, the effort she put into her hair, her personality instead of being afraid of being caught. The rare times I do I either smile coyly, wave or approach and sometimes all three.

Just like nature beauty is all around us but you'll never notice if you don't take the time to appreciate it.
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The solution to all problems is the right inner game. You need only to think of street rapists in India, or of furious incel masturbators to see that sex drive without inner game means nothing. Sex drive will just make you persist to a high notch count given the circumstances for success with women are already in place.
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I've continued to experiment with this subject but I still have not found any way to increase the frequency.

I had another magical experience 2 weeks ago with this effect.

I'm lost walking on a busy street in the night life area.

I see this hot girl in booty shorts walking ahead of me with her friend.

I ask her for help to call an uber to my location.

Instantly i have a massive boner and this girl is so equally horny that she starts rubbing her boobs on my chest as we talk.

A few min later she invites me to walk with her friend to her apartment and call my uber from there.

again, when a girl makes me that horny she becomes equally horny and magical things happen.

I still dont know how to increase the number of girls that turn me on that fast.

That was 2 weeks ago and have not met any girls since that had that effect on me.
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(08-25-2019 01:59 PM)dreadcom Wrote:  A few min later she invites me to walk with her friend to her apartment and call my uber from there.

Aren't we going to hear the rest of the story? It just got interesting lol

Seriously, besides the things I already mentioned (like meeting more girls) I don't think there is much more you can do to make this happen more often. I suppose it starts with the interaction right? So finding and approaching more hot girls might do the trick. However, you can't fool nature.
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Dreadcom - interested on your findings on NoFap.... I am just over 200 days, and I felt like I was getting some benefits as people described that seemed to completely level off to nothing around the 80-90 day mark. I just sort of feel the same as I started, and I guess the only thing keeping me from jerking it is the fear that I'll feel worse overall if I do. It felt like my sex drive was increased for a while there, and dealing with women was less intimidating/easier, but now I feel like I'm back to square one. I blasted all over myself in my sleep the other night so had a soft reset.

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(07-17-2019 08:34 AM)dreadcom Wrote:  I'm starting to become more and more convinced that all problems with women can be solved by having a real/raw/animalistic desire for sex.

My experience has been that if i meet a girl and I have a real physical reaction/instant boner in her presence the girl will always also be turned on by me making everything easier from that point.

I've never had a bad reaction with a girl who genuinely turned me on in in this way.

On the other hand, some of my worst interactions with women have been when i force myself to interact with a girl who might be stereotypically attractive but does not trigger that legitimate raw/biological desire in me.

I've become obsessed with trying to find a way to increase my sex drive so I have that instant boner physical reaction with more women.

Am i on to something here or am I going down a wrong path?

I honestly think this might be a magic pill.

I literally cannot remember a single time in my entire life where I had a bad interaction with a girl who I was so physically turned on by that I had a boner while interacting with her.

I think they sense this genuine desire and it turns them on as well; its a 2 way thing.

My theory is that if I can find a way to have this instant boner happen more often then it will instantly solve pretty much all my women problems.

What do you guys think?

I absolutely agree with this, based on my own experience. I've struggled with a low libido for most of my life, and if women don't sense that animalistic raw desire, it's very difficult to build real attraction.

All of my most succesful experiences with women were when my libido was high. If my sex drive is null, so is my attention from women.

Phenibut works quite well for raising libido. In fact, if I take it before a date my odds increase quite a lot that I'll have sex with her that night.

Maca, while it doesn't raise T, does appear to have very strong evidence for increasing sex drive, though it's a bit of a mystery as to how it does.

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(07-17-2019 03:59 PM)dreadcom Wrote:  
(07-17-2019 03:24 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  Good topic OP.

Some people say no fapping will increase your drive.

do NOT listen to those people.

There's very few people on the planet who probably understand nofap to the level i do.

I've experimented with nofap for years and kept meticulous notes.

You have to be very careful in how you approach nofap or it will actually kill your sex drive.

Nofap is one of of the most misunderstood subjects on the internet these days.


Can you elaborate on this? I'm getting mixed feelings with nofap

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(09-02-2019 12:00 PM)lonewolf1992 Wrote:  
(07-17-2019 03:59 PM)dreadcom Wrote:  
(07-17-2019 03:24 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  Good topic OP.

Some people say no fapping will increase your drive.

do NOT listen to those people.

There's very few people on the planet who probably understand nofap to the level i do.

I've experimented with nofap for years and kept meticulous notes.

You have to be very careful in how you approach nofap or it will actually kill your sex drive.

Nofap is one of of the most misunderstood subjects on the internet these days.


Can you elaborate on this? I'm getting mixed feelings with nofap

Not him but I first discovered the movement in 2012 from Gary Wilson's TEDx talk on porn, and in the past 2 years I've kept a log as well.

What I can say is that porn is the issue, not fapping. But many people seem to miss this entirely.

If you give up porn, you should still fap, provided that you're not thinking about the porn-related imagery that you've seen previously. If you stop fapping and avoid all sexual stimuli altogether, you kind of starve out the sexual reward circuitry in your brain, and become hyposexual. I firmly believe that you need to replace porn with regular sex and/or non-visual fapping (maybe once every week or two), or else you'll lose all sexual desire.

I haven't fapped to porn in almost 7 months and my libido is completely dead almost every day. Last I checked T levels were 1050 but they may be lower nowadays for all I know.

Anyway I'm considering taking maca and daily low dose cialis to raise my libido again and force myself into getting laid.

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My experience with nofap is if you know a venue that's gonna be crawling with talent 2-3 days in advance, abstain from orgasm those days and you'll have a much better time at your venue.

That's the only edge case where it's useful.
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