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RE: Neuralink - Elon Musk Unveils New Implant Which Enables The Brain to Control Devices
That's a simplistic view - I don't believe in god and I think musk is a crook.
It's just that I don't want to become part machine to better fit into a slave society, and I believe it should be obvious to anyone why this is not a good idea.

I mean first we started to not select any more for people of value, and we saw the problems that brought.
Now we want to select for the most submissive ones ? Sure, great idea !
And valuing your status in society more than your own body ? Even better !

Do it, now !
08-02-2019 06:20 AM
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RE: Neuralink - Elon Musk Unveils New Implant Which Enables The Brain to Control Devices
(07-28-2019 12:08 PM)Arado Wrote:  
(07-28-2019 07:06 AM)Oberrheiner Wrote:  
(07-24-2019 08:55 PM)Arado Wrote:  There's a lot of skepticism on this thread - no one is denying that this tech is risky, but are you sure that it won't work? Maybe not next year, but what about a decade from now?

And if it works, wouldn't those that use it gain a competitive advantage over others (in work, dating, warfare, athletics, negotiations, etc) that those who don't use it will be at a huge disadvantage?

And this is precisely the problem.
Once this works, you'll just have to get a loan to get one implanted into your brain - or get supplanted by somebody who did, and lose your job, your home, your family, and in the end your life.
Is this really what you want ?

Look, you can complain and whine all you want about globalist control, automation, the "system" and long for a more traditional time. But make no mistake, others will use this technology and are gunning for your wealth and resources. Until you can figure out how to outwit the globalists, you have to play their game.

The Amish and various tribes living their ancient lifestyle survive by the generosity of the societies around them that protect them from foreign invaders who would be more than happy to steal their land and resources. If too many people reject modern technology then a country would become weaker than its competitors and ripe for conquest.

Why not take advantage of that generosity?

If it is as inevitable as you think, then the difference is only when we get to merge into the cloud and our minds get to be ruled by an AI. The Amish and other similar groups who live off the land and shun much or all of modern technology, will be the last to be affected. Sure, it will be abrupt - but that also means that they were freer than everybody who was warmed up for it over a long period.

So it's either now or later. I'll take later.

The more society advances, not only in technology, but in the narcissism that it enables and the resulting culture, more and more compromises will have to be made to be part of it - of your morals, your freedom, your autonomy, and with this technology, your consciousness and your soul. I mean, the deal is already partly done. We are all, to one degree or another, complicit in the corruption. But there's a line for every man - willingly giving them control over my mind is a line I will never cross. It's better to be homeless, in prison, or dead than to suffer that terror.

«For what profits a man if he gains the whole world but loses his own soul»

Don't call it a grave, it's the future you chose.
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(07-28-2019 12:08 PM)Arado Wrote:  I'm sure horses weren't too happy when cars came out and they were no longer needed.

This is an interesting example by the way.

Maybe some of you remember the "flying superman" from the gilets jaunes ? Smile
He's not a gypsy as it was said, well not a romani anyway - he's a yenish and that's very different.
You've probably seen them already, they often sell wicker baskets on the side of the roads here - hence why we call them "vanniers" here.

So anyway, two centuries ago those people were farriers, and when the industrial revolution came and horses were phased out they simply refused to become slaves in the factories, and thus became itinerant and lived from .. well nobody knows what exactly, they have their own businesses, sometimes legal sometimes not.
Not that they care much since they deny any legitimacy to the state anyway.

Novelty is not always progress.
And neither is inevitable, you always have a choice.
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(08-02-2019 07:52 AM)ilostabet Wrote:  
(07-28-2019 12:08 PM)Arado Wrote:  Look, you can complain and whine all you want about globalist control, automation, the "system" and long for a more traditional time. But make no mistake, others will use this technology and are gunning for your wealth and resources. Until you can figure out how to outwit the globalists, you have to play their game.

The Amish and various tribes living their ancient lifestyle survive by the generosity of the societies around them that protect them from foreign invaders who would be more than happy to steal their land and resources. If too many people reject modern technology then a country would become weaker than its competitors and ripe for conquest.

Why not take advantage of that generosity?

If it is as inevitable as you think, then the difference is only when we get to merge into the cloud and our minds get to be ruled by an AI. The Amish and other similar groups who live off the land and shun much or all of modern technology, will be the last to be affected. Sure, it will be abrupt - but that also means that they were freer than everybody who was warmed up for it over a long period.

So it's either now or later. I'll take later.

The more society advances, not only in technology, but in the narcissism that it enables and the resulting culture, more and more compromises will have to be made to be part of it - of your morals, your freedom, your autonomy, and with this technology, your consciousness and your soul. I mean, the deal is already partly done. We are all, to one degree or another, complicit in the corruption. But there's a line for every man - willingly giving them control over my mind is a line I will never cross. It's better to be homeless, in prison, or dead than to suffer that terror.

«For what profits a man if he gains the whole world but loses his own soul»

Again - the Amish are only able to do this because they have a society that indulges them. They could never maintain that society on their own and remain advanced enough to hold off modern armies gunning for their territory. Sure, as an individual you can take advantage of society's generosity but then you will always remain at their mercy. What happens if there is a major economic crash and the government needs to eminent domain your land to sell it to a major corporation? You're going to whine about maintaining your "soul sovereignty"? No one is going to care. Ultimately, strength, power, and economic productivity are the only things that make you valuable to a society.

While this may seem like a "line in the sand," don't be so sure. All medical advances are unnatural and interfere in "God's plan" for mankind. This has nothing to do with narcism - it's simply a recognition that the world is getting too complex for biological brains to process and more computing power is necessary to keep up.

As of now, neuralink gives your mind tremendous new powers to influence the environment around it. All this talk about mind control is from the globalist conspiracy theorists that don't recognize the basic reality that humanity has always been evolving and adapting and this is just the next iteration of survival of the fittest.

You can whine all you want about your soul, but the Chinese are coming, will be at the forefront of these technologies, and they will eat your lunch if you refuse to adapt to the future.
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