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At this point in time I'm not even convinced the supposed perpetrators - the ones named in the media - are the actual perpetrators half the time. Especially when the person is killed during the event. There is just no way to tell what's going on, more often than not.

On a related note, the owner of 8chan said that the El Paso shooter - assuming that's the guy who did it in the first place - did *not* upload any manifesto to the site. The manifesto (whoever it was written by) was apparently uploaded to Instagram, then apparently uploaded by someone *else* to 8chan from there. A perfect chain of events for them to take down a site they didn't like.

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@Sword and Board,
This isn't the 70s anymore. Sooner rather than later the not-elites won't need serfs, they will have AIs doing all the work, including the work of getting the population under control (if they decide to keep us as pets for some reason). Why do you think they are allowing trannies and women into the army? Because the army will not matter, it's just another make-work program at this point and, if shit hits the fan internally, most army men will run to protect their families (if they have one), not enforce governmental edicts.

I do agree however that, if it is to go down, it's better to go down swinging.

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The 8chan owner now says the Manifesto was posted by someone who was NOT the shooter.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/08...t-shooter/
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(08-08-2019 06:50 AM)Easy_C Wrote:  The 8chan owner now says the Manifesto was posted by someone who was NOT the shooter.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/08...t-shooter/

They won't be updating that in the media and neither will they call the other guy an Antifa polyamorous shooter.



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(08-08-2019 03:41 AM)ilostabet Wrote:  Why do you think they are allowing trannies and women into the army? Because the army will not matter, it's just another make-work program at this point

Exactly. There's a lot of conservative commentary saying "oh no, the military is going downhill now they are letting in women and trannies" etc. It doesn't matter. Most future conflict scenarios will be won by tech, and in cases that aren't - like the worst kind of civil war scenarios in the USA - the first year of real conflict will see the dead wood stripped away. It's not like the military is ever going to send 50% female platoons going house to house in any serious conflict.

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(08-08-2019 07:36 AM)RawGod Wrote:  
(08-08-2019 03:41 AM)ilostabet Wrote:  Why do you think they are allowing trannies and women into the army? Because the army will not matter, it's just another make-work program at this point

Exactly. There's a lot of conservative commentary saying "oh no, the military is going downhill now they are letting in women and trannies" etc. It doesn't matter. Most future conflict scenarios will be won by tech, and in cases that aren't - like the worst kind of civil war scenarios in the USA - the first year of real conflict will see the dead wood stripped away. It's not like the military is ever going to send 50% female platoons going house to house in any serious conflict.

While it seems omnipotent, tech didn't save the Romans or the Germans (in either world war), and it can't carry the water now either.

Women in inappropriate combat arms roles and trannies in any role whatsoever are mere symptoms of corrupt higher leadership all the way around - that much matters greatly.

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Not sure how tech is supposed to win future conflicts when America's diversity navy can't travel without crashing into merchant ships every couple of months. Heck, the Norwegian diversity navy had a ship SINK after crashing into one.

Not to mention America hasn't won jack shit in Afghanistan,Iraq,etc despite it's tech.
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(08-09-2019 05:23 AM)Yatagan Wrote:  Not sure how tech is supposed to win future conflicts when America's diversity navy can't travel without crashing into merchant ships every couple of months. Heck, the Norwegian diversity navy had a ship SINK after crashing into one.

Not to mention America hasn't won jack shit in Afghanistan,Iraq,etc despite it's tech.

AI will change all that.

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(08-09-2019 05:23 AM)Yatagan Wrote:  Not sure how tech is supposed to win future conflicts when America's diversity navy can't travel without crashing into merchant ships every couple of months. Heck, the Norwegian diversity navy had a ship SINK after crashing into one.

Not to mention America hasn't won jack shit in Afghanistan,Iraq,etc despite it's tech.

Countries like Afghanistan or Iraq cannot be won over with logical means like winning over Nazi Germany or Japan. The latter nations just submitted, accepted new rules and went to rebuilding their countries without trying to take revenge relentlessly in one big eternal guerilla warfare. Iraq and Afghanistan are doing just that and no one can control that. But the US could have easily killed every local and then settled peaceful people there - problem would be solved.

As for accidents and lower combat-ability due to diversity and corruption - that is a problem but a luxury one. The reason for this is because the power of the US and NATO is so overwhelming that only Russia with China combined could rival those forces even if it were 50% women and trannies. That may change in the future and the difference between masculine forces in China and Russia may one day become too great.

In truth - after the first million people die pulverized then all the feminism will be wiped out quasi overnight. The trannies would get demoted and the women would be kicked out of positions they are not qualified for. Though there is little to be afraid of at this stage for the globo-homos.
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That China isn't beholden to foreign policy directions based on zionism is no small advantage either.

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(08-09-2019 05:39 AM)ilostabet Wrote:  
(08-09-2019 05:23 AM)Yatagan Wrote:  Not sure how tech is supposed to win future conflicts when America's diversity navy can't travel without crashing into merchant ships every couple of months. Heck, the Norwegian diversity navy had a ship SINK after crashing into one.

Not to mention America hasn't won jack shit in Afghanistan,Iraq,etc despite it's tech.

AI will change all that.

Yeah, it'll kill all humans after calculating the risks.

This whole thing just further cements the anti-white notion going around western media. It is a hard drug for these pukes and they need bigger hits everytime.
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Robots controlled by and programmed by powerful rootless cosmopolitans like the google founders have your best interests at heart.

Don't you worry it will all work out somehow. Don't you know these powerful tech companies led by people under a strange religion who your ancestors may or may not have etched warnings into stone about say that you shouldn't trust them. Maybe the ancestors were mistaken and you should just blindly trust a group of strange money lenders that push radical policies both foreign and domestic?

Maybe you should breed and send your kids to die on their behalf because to not to do so means you aren't a true Christian or something.

It's all kosher folks. Believe everything.

Those viruses, toasters with arms and bristling with weapons, or government search engines won't go against you in any way or violate any of your rights as a unit..I mean person.
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(08-07-2019 06:41 PM)robreke Wrote:  I was referring to after the Bolsheviks had won the civil war and taken full control of the country. For years after, "Security operatives" would come in the night and pull people from their homes. This happened not only in the farms but in apartment units and homes in the cities. Solzhenitsyn writes about this in his books and also laments that the people didn't put up resistance to the police forces.
Yes, but it doesn't change the fact that the Russians got to that point in the first place despite gun ownership being legal and commonplace before the takeover. And after the civil war, the Russian farmers would often attack or kill the Party stooges coming to steal their grain, up to the early-mid 30s when Stalin's famines and deportations finally crushed them.

It's not like the Russians were pushovers. Sadly, they lost the political war against communism in 1917, before the physical war was fought.

Transfer this point to the United States: once enough political legitimacy is ceded to the Left, no amount of weaponry will stop them. The regime will simply mobilize its forces and work at their own pace to pick off remaining freedom fighters.
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(08-10-2019 04:03 AM)Lunostrelki Wrote:  
(08-07-2019 06:41 PM)robreke Wrote:  I was referring to after the Bolsheviks had won the civil war and taken full control of the country. For years after, "Security operatives" would come in the night and pull people from their homes. This happened not only in the farms but in apartment units and homes in the cities. Solzhenitsyn writes about this in his books and also laments that the people didn't put up resistance to the police forces.
Yes, but it doesn't change the fact that the Russians got to that point in the first place despite gun ownership being legal and commonplace before the takeover. And after the civil war, the Russian farmers would often attack or kill the Party stooges coming to steal their grain, up to the early-mid 30s when Stalin's famines and deportations finally crushed them.

It's not like the Russians were pushovers. Sadly, they lost the political war against communism in 1917, before the physical war was fought.

Transfer this point to the United States: once enough political legitimacy is ceded to the Left, no amount of weaponry will stop them. The regime will simply mobilize its forces and work at their own pace to pick off remaining freedom fighters.

The Soviet takeover would not have succeeded without billions of gold of financing by the globalists, then diligent cooperation of most Jews in Russia, then technological and financial aid by Western countries (also led by globalists). Russia modernized so fast and produced tanks and trucks so quickly to Western level, because they were aided by engineers being sent over by Western corporations. Some officers noted during WWII that the Soviets got US-styled trucks befroe they got them - having been given blueprints and machines before the US military got them. This was even repeated up until the Vietnam war.

On top of it - Russians only believed in the pretty lies initially. The revolution would not have succeeded with the large Jewish population in Russia filling up the ranks of the secret police and control grid. They later sent their commissars all across Eastern Europe to kill and subjugate budding rebellions after WWII. Russia was an unfortunate example of a backwards country that modernized too late and whose lack of progress was brutally abused by the commies. They came to their senses late, but by then it was already too late and the control-grid was too strong. Plus they used part of the modernizing aspects in the 1930s as one of their achievements while in reality a free capitalist economy with a Czar figurehead would make the people more prosperous. Ah well - nations pay a high price for lack of awareness. The West will pay in the same vein.
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This is all about people control. If liberals were sincerely concerned about untimely deaths they would focus on swimming pool safety and similar issues. Rifles barely make a dent in homicide rates.

Quote:The most recent FBI crime stats show that more people were killed in 2017 with hammers and clubs than were killed with rifles of any kind.

Breitbart News reported the most recent numbers–those for 2017–on September 26, 2018. Those figures showed that 467 people were killed with “blunt objects (hammers, clubs, etc.),” while 403 were killed with rifles.

And it must be noted that the category of “rifles” used by the FBI includes bolt action, pump action, single shot, and semi-automatic, as well as those the left describes as “assault weapons.” This means only a percentage of the 403 deaths attributed to “rifles” would have been carried out with an “assault weapon.” So the gap between the number of persons beaten to death with hammers and clubs verses those killed with “assault weapons” would be even greater than the gap between those who died in a hammer/club attack versus those who died being shot with “rifles” of any kind.

Breitbart News also reported that the 2017 crime figures showed 1,591 people were killed with “knives or cutting instruments” while 403 were killed with “rifles.” This means nearly four times as many people were stabbed to death as were killed with any kind of rifle. (The gap between the number stabbed to death and the number of persons explicitly killed with an “assault weapon” would be even greater.)

Yet Democrats are pushing an “assault weapons” ban and Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) says legislation for such a ban will be “front and center” when the Senate reconvenes.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/...fles-kind/
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I hate gun control. Not just cause of the principle, but because we already see what happens even with it around. Homicides and murders still happen in droves, and gun control does not even stop people from killing each other. It's obvious it's a government power play to unarm the masses. I'm actually surprised no republican grills it into Democrats everytime gun control comes up and just keep showing them all the crime still happening in cities with the most gun control. Just keep throwing it at them and making them eat their words or at least show that they have a different motive. I don't know why this regulation keeps coming up in this day and age. In a decent time, this kind of talk would have been shot dead, pun intended, and we can move to more productive things.
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Meanwhile, a rationale and appropriate response from the people of El Paso:

Quote:After Deadly Shooting, Hispanics Flock to El Paso Gun Shops
By Jeffrey Rodack | Wednesday, 14 August 2019 10:44 AM

Hispanic residents in El Paso, Texas are flocking to gun shops after the deadly mass shooting in the city, The New York Times is reporting.

The man who launched the deadly attack had reportedly targeted Hispanics in his killing spree.

Now, gun shops in El Paso are busy with customers, many of them Hispanic, according to the newspaper.

"It's basically out of the instinct of not wanting to be a victim," said Zachary Zuniga, 32, who registered for a shooting course and is planning to purchase his first gun.

"I want to be able to protect my family if people like this are going to come here thinking they can shoot up places where my family and friends go."

The Guardian reported people were crowded shoulder-to-shoulder in one El Paso gun shop.

"I'm on high alert," said April Sanchez, who along with her husband was buying her first weapon. "I never thought I'd carry a gun, but now I want something to defend myself, to defend my fellow El Pasoans."

"This isn't something I'm proud of," she added. "It makes me sad and angry that I'm even here. I'm heartbroken, but I'm also afraid."

And Michael McIntyre, general manager of Gun Central in El Paso. told Reuters his store recorded double the usual number of sales in the week after the attack.

"We actually had two people buy guns here who were actually in the Walmart on the day of the shooting," he said.

https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/el-pas...id/928531/
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(08-14-2019 10:33 AM)Tail Gunner Wrote:  Now, gun shops in El Paso are busy with customers, many of them Hispanic, according to the newspaper.

"It's basically out of the instinct of not wanting to be a victim," said Zachary Zuniga, 32, who registered for a shooting course and is planning to purchase his first gun.

"I want to be able to protect my family if people like this are going to come here thinking they can shoot up places where my family and friends go."

The Guardian reported people were crowded shoulder-to-shoulder in one El Paso gun shop.

"I'm on high alert," said April Sanchez, who along with her husband was buying her first weapon. "I never thought I'd carry a gun, but now I want something to defend myself, to defend my fellow El Pasoans."

"This isn't something I'm proud of," she added. "It makes me sad and angry that I'm even here. I'm heartbroken, but I'm also afraid."

And Michael McIntyre, general manager of Gun Central in El Paso. told Reuters his store recorded double the usual number of sales in the week after the attack.

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Hot tip, Sanchez:

Want to avoid getting killed, assaulted, or robbed in a random act of violence?

Just move out of a city that has a high number of blacks and latinos.

Here's the funny thing i've known a lot of blacks and latinos in my lifetime who also escaped the 'hood so to speak and they all tend to agree with me because they weren't stupid and ghetto trash.
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(08-14-2019 10:54 AM)El Chinito loco Wrote:  
(08-14-2019 10:33 AM)Tail Gunner Wrote:  Now, gun shops in El Paso are busy with customers, many of them Hispanic, according to the newspaper.

"It's basically out of the instinct of not wanting to be a victim," said Zachary Zuniga, 32, who registered for a shooting course and is planning to purchase his first gun.

"I want to be able to protect my family if people like this are going to come here thinking they can shoot up places where my family and friends go."

The Guardian reported people were crowded shoulder-to-shoulder in one El Paso gun shop.

"I'm on high alert," said April Sanchez, who along with her husband was buying her first weapon. "I never thought I'd carry a gun, but now I want something to defend myself, to defend my fellow El Pasoans."

"This isn't something I'm proud of," she added. "It makes me sad and angry that I'm even here. I'm heartbroken, but I'm also afraid."

And Michael McIntyre, general manager of Gun Central in El Paso. told Reuters his store recorded double the usual number of sales in the week after the attack.

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Hot tip, Sanchez:

Want to avoid getting killed, assaulted, or robbed in a random act of violence?

Just move out of a city that has a high number of blacks and latinos.

Here's the funny thing i've known a lot of blacks and latinos in my lifetime who also escaped the 'hood so to speak and they all tend to agree with me because they weren't stupid and ghetto trash.

Mass shootings are scarier for most people because it actually can affect the middle class. No one really cares about gang violence because it largely affects the poorest people in society and can be pretty easily avoided. I can avoid the projects. I have no control over whether or not some piece of shit incel (of course from a middle class upbringing) decides to shoot up a shopping mall that I happen to be at.

But I fully expect these types (incels) to continue to chimp out as inequality, mental health, and political tensions get worse. Nothing wrong with being ready for the worst case scenario. Honestly if some of the Mexicans in El Paso had been armed the shooter may have killed less people.
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(08-03-2019 08:24 PM)Days of Broken Arrows Wrote:  Even though it hasn't come out yet whether this guy was on anti-depressants, connections have been made between mass shooters and anti-depressants. Unfortunately, it's only people in the "fringe media" who make these connections (even though they're obvious to everyone) and they're dismissed.

You won't hear this in the mainstream media because Big Pharma is a big advertiser. Not only do the drug companies advertise with all the networks, but they're all over the place online, like on YouTube and Facebook.

DOBA has drawn attention to this in the past, and it's an extremely apt point, but man, you were way ahead of the curve here.

ABC News:

Quote:Suspected Dayton shooter had cocaine, alcohol and anti-anxiety drugs in system, coroner says
By Matt Zarrell and Karma Allen
Aug 15, 2019, 4:07 PM ET

The alleged shooter who killed nine in Dayton, Ohio, was found to have cocaine, alcohol and anti-anxiety drugs in his system, according to the Montgomery County Coroner.

A pipe device containing cocaine was also found in the pocket of Connor Betts, the coroner, Dr. Kent E. Harshbarger, announced on Thursday.

Betts's weapon was connected with the killing of all nine victims, Harshbarger said. One deceased victim was also shot by police, but that victim died of a gunshot wound from the suspect.

Betts was fatally shot by nearby police officers about 30 seconds after began opening fire, ending a bloody rampage that killed nine, including the alleged gunman's own sister, and injured more than two dozen others.

Police have yet to reveal a motive in the shooting, or explain why the alleged gunman killed his sister, but they said his family is cooperating with the ongoing investigation.

Last week, investigators said Betts had been exploring violent ideologies and the prospect of committing a mass shooting before he opened fire in Dayton.
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