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(08-05-2019 11:17 PM)captain_shane Wrote:  There wouldn't be conspiracies about these shootings if there wasn't strange shit about every single one of them.

Dayton shooter apparently died in 2014

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First viewed in 2014. So, this isn't something that was put up in the last few days.

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If these are real headlines, then they picked different patsies in those shots. The Jewish guy on the right wrote the manifesto and the one on the left did the deed high on drugs.

No idea what the heck is going on with those shootings. Currently you cannot trust for any of them to be real.

Was there a training of a shooting nearby on the same day? When yes, then it was another one of those false flag operations.

In any case the likelihood of becoming the victim during a mass shooting is low unless you enter a wrong kind of neighborhood in the US.

Aside from the constant false flags then you have pharmeceuticals which have "murderous rage" as a side-effect. How the heck are those meds even legal? Anything that has murderous rage as a side effect should be pulled from the market instantly. Countless people kill their own families while being on those drugs. Others go and do shootings.

Ah well - guess we won't find out the truth anyway. Then of course Antifa-supporters are becoming right-wingers in the media narrative.
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It is rather unbelievable for anyone who "got radicalized" on 8chan or 4chan to not mention a certain tribe of happy merchants and rootless cosmopolitans.

It's the single most important and recurring topic on both /pol/ boards, the explanation of everything and reason for anything.
Each and every discussion there eventually boils down to this.
There's just no escape.

Seems weird to me.
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Any time a mass shooting occurred, first question to ask is, “is the shooter mentally ill?”.

This is a very long article/post, but an interesting read that confirmed a lot of our discussions and theories on connecting shooters to mental illness.

Parents Catch FBI In Plot To Force Mentally Ill Son To Be A Right Wing Terrorist
Quote:15 FEB 2018 POSTED BY MATT AGORIST

THE PARENTS OF A SEVERELY MENTALLY DISABLED MAN ARE SPEAKING OUT ON HOW THE FBI GROOMED HIM AS A RIGHT-WING TERRORIST, KNOWING HE’S PARANOID SCHIZOPHRENIC.
Originally Released 08/17/17 – (TFTP) It’s become a near-weekly occurrence. Somewhere in some state, the FBI will announce that they’ve foiled yet another terrorist plot and saved lives. However, as the data shows, the majority of these cases involve psychologically diminished patsies who’ve been entirely groomed, armed, and entrapped by FBI agents. Simply put, the FBI manufactures terror threats and then takes credit for stopping them.

While many of these cases have garnered attention and been exposed in the alternative media, a recent case out of Oklahoma sets a new low for FBI and exposes how insidious these plots can be.

Through the hundreds of ‘foiled terror plots’ the FBI has ‘busted’ over the years, many of them have been focused on people of Middle Eastern descent or people associated with ISIS or al-Qaeda. This time, in the case of Jerry Drake Varnell, the 23-year-old diagnosed schizophrenic, accused of attempting to bomb a bank, the FBI fomented terror from a right wing dialogue.

In a June meeting with the agent, according to FBI documents, Varnell described himself as a believer in “Three Percenter” ideology, a right-wing group claiming to be committed to standing against and exposing corruption and injustice.

According to federal documents, Varnell drove what he believed was a stolen van containing a 1,000-pound ammonium nitrate bomb on Saturday morning to blow up an Oklahoma City bank. Vile, indeed.

However, if we backtrack just a bit, to when the FBI began grooming their would-be right-wing militia terrorist, the vileness comes directly from the government.

“The FBI knew he was schizophrenic,” Varnell’s parents declared on Wednesday in an open letter bravely published by NewsOK.

“Underneath his condition, he is a sweet-hearted person and we are extremely shocked that this event has happened. However, what truly has us flabbergasted is the fact that the FBI knew he was schizophrenic. The State of Oklahoma found him mentally incompetent and we, his parents have legal guardianship over him by the Court. These documents are sealed from the public, which is why no news media outlet has been able to obtain them. The FBI clearly knew that he was schizophrenic because they have gathered every ounce of information on him.”


Yet they knowingly continued to groom him, despite the clear immoral implications.

When they began grooming him, according to the family, the FBI knew that Varnell was declared mentally unfit to live by himself and that he was a paranoid schizophrenic. Without their criminal informant and the FBI tactics playing mind games with this vulnerable man, the idea of him committing an act of terror would have likely never materialized.

“What the public should be looking at is the fact that the FBI gave our son the means to make this happen. He has no job, no money, no vehicle, and no driver’s license, due to the fact that he is schizophrenic and we; his parents do everything we can possible to keep him safe and functional….. He has suffered through countless serious full-blown schizophrenic delusional episodes and he has been put in numerous mental hospitals since he was 16 years old. The FBI came and picked him up from our home, they gave him a vehicle, gave him a fake bomb, and every means to make this happen none of which he had access to on his own.”


The parents noted that during the setup, they suspected something was going on and Jerry’s father told the informant to stay away from their son. However, according to the parents, the informant “continued to sneak onto our residence. The FBI paid him to continue this operation and I believe they have cleared his criminal record.”

Because they knew Varnell had severe mental disabilities, the FBI should have had stopped their plans to do this and immediately sought an option of hospitalization. However, they pressed on.

Knowing a sane person would likely never attempt to blow up a bank, the FBI deliberately targeted a severely delusional and mentally ill person. This is wrong on so many levels. Will the next mass murderer they groom come directly from a mental institution?

“The FBI should have filed conspiracy on our son and had him committed to a mental institution. They should not have aided and abetted a paranoid schizophrenic to commit this act. There are many more facts that I will not make public that will support my son and the disturbing acts made by the FBI.

I realize that many will say my son could have found another person to commit this act. Yet, any person that has access to the materials and the state of mind necessary to bomb a building would not have any need for a schizophrenic who has no resources to contribute.”


Clifford and Melonie Varnell, Jerry’s parents make a powerful point. No one — other than the FBI — would’ve attempted to get a schizophrenic man with nothing to contribute to do their bidding as it would most likely be a futile effort — unless you are the FBI looking for an easy patsy to keep fear alive.

David Steele, a 20-year Marine Corps intelligence officer, the second-highest-ranking civilian in the U.S. Marine Corps Intelligence, and former CIA clandestine services case officer, had this to say about these most unscrupulous operations:

“Most terrorists are false flag terrorists, or are created by our own security services. In the United States, every single terrorist incident we have had has been a false flag, or has been an informant pushed on by the FBI. In fact, we now have citizens taking out restraining orders against FBI informants that are trying to incite terrorism. We’ve become a lunatic asylum.”

Indeed, we’ve become a lunatic asylum.
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(08-06-2019 05:32 AM)Frostbite Wrote:  You lot are fucking hilarious. When it’s a far right attack it’s a false flag but when it’s an Islamic attack it’s real?

They’re all fucking false flags. The media are playing you like violins.

If you ever wondered what modern “divide and conquer” looks like, this is it.


No, of course not.

There is an entire subforum which is the politics section which questions the entire middle east conflict from the start and various "shootings" which seem to facilitate public support for neocon policies to go to war for Israel.
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(08-06-2019 07:46 AM)budoslavic Wrote:  Any time a mass shooting occurred, first question to ask is, “is the shooter mentally ill?”.

This is a very long article/post, but an interesting read that confirmed a lot of our discussions and theories on connecting shooters to mental illness.

Parents Catch FBI In Plot To Force Mentally Ill Son To Be A Right Wing Terrorist
Quote:15 FEB 2018 POSTED BY MATT AGORIST

THE PARENTS OF A SEVERELY MENTALLY DISABLED MAN ARE SPEAKING OUT ON HOW THE FBI GROOMED HIM AS A RIGHT-WING TERRORIST, KNOWING HE’S PARANOID SCHIZOPHRENIC.
Originally Released 08/17/17 – (TFTP) It’s become a near-weekly occurrence. Somewhere in some state, the FBI will announce that they’ve foiled yet another terrorist plot and saved lives. However, as the data shows, the majority of these cases involve psychologically diminished patsies who’ve been entirely groomed, armed, and entrapped by FBI agents. Simply put, the FBI manufactures terror threats and then takes credit for stopping them.

While many of these cases have garnered attention and been exposed in the alternative media, a recent case out of Oklahoma sets a new low for FBI and exposes how insidious these plots can be.

Through the hundreds of ‘foiled terror plots’ the FBI has ‘busted’ over the years, many of them have been focused on people of Middle Eastern descent or people associated with ISIS or al-Qaeda. This time, in the case of Jerry Drake Varnell, the 23-year-old diagnosed schizophrenic, accused of attempting to bomb a bank, the FBI fomented terror from a right wing dialogue.

In a June meeting with the agent, according to FBI documents, Varnell described himself as a believer in “Three Percenter” ideology, a right-wing group claiming to be committed to standing against and exposing corruption and injustice.

According to federal documents, Varnell drove what he believed was a stolen van containing a 1,000-pound ammonium nitrate bomb on Saturday morning to blow up an Oklahoma City bank. Vile, indeed.

However, if we backtrack just a bit, to when the FBI began grooming their would-be right-wing militia terrorist, the vileness comes directly from the government.

“The FBI knew he was schizophrenic,” Varnell’s parents declared on Wednesday in an open letter bravely published by NewsOK.

“Underneath his condition, he is a sweet-hearted person and we are extremely shocked that this event has happened. However, what truly has us flabbergasted is the fact that the FBI knew he was schizophrenic. The State of Oklahoma found him mentally incompetent and we, his parents have legal guardianship over him by the Court. These documents are sealed from the public, which is why no news media outlet has been able to obtain them. The FBI clearly knew that he was schizophrenic because they have gathered every ounce of information on him.”


Yet they knowingly continued to groom him, despite the clear immoral implications.

When they began grooming him, according to the family, the FBI knew that Varnell was declared mentally unfit to live by himself and that he was a paranoid schizophrenic. Without their criminal informant and the FBI tactics playing mind games with this vulnerable man, the idea of him committing an act of terror would have likely never materialized.

“What the public should be looking at is the fact that the FBI gave our son the means to make this happen. He has no job, no money, no vehicle, and no driver’s license, due to the fact that he is schizophrenic and we; his parents do everything we can possible to keep him safe and functional….. He has suffered through countless serious full-blown schizophrenic delusional episodes and he has been put in numerous mental hospitals since he was 16 years old. The FBI came and picked him up from our home, they gave him a vehicle, gave him a fake bomb, and every means to make this happen none of which he had access to on his own.”


The parents noted that during the setup, they suspected something was going on and Jerry’s father told the informant to stay away from their son. However, according to the parents, the informant “continued to sneak onto our residence. The FBI paid him to continue this operation and I believe they have cleared his criminal record.”

Because they knew Varnell had severe mental disabilities, the FBI should have had stopped their plans to do this and immediately sought an option of hospitalization. However, they pressed on.

Knowing a sane person would likely never attempt to blow up a bank, the FBI deliberately targeted a severely delusional and mentally ill person. This is wrong on so many levels. Will the next mass murderer they groom come directly from a mental institution?

“The FBI should have filed conspiracy on our son and had him committed to a mental institution. They should not have aided and abetted a paranoid schizophrenic to commit this act. There are many more facts that I will not make public that will support my son and the disturbing acts made by the FBI.

I realize that many will say my son could have found another person to commit this act. Yet, any person that has access to the materials and the state of mind necessary to bomb a building would not have any need for a schizophrenic who has no resources to contribute.”


Clifford and Melonie Varnell, Jerry’s parents make a powerful point. No one — other than the FBI — would’ve attempted to get a schizophrenic man with nothing to contribute to do their bidding as it would most likely be a futile effort — unless you are the FBI looking for an easy patsy to keep fear alive.

David Steele, a 20-year Marine Corps intelligence officer, the second-highest-ranking civilian in the U.S. Marine Corps Intelligence, and former CIA clandestine services case officer, had this to say about these most unscrupulous operations:

“Most terrorists are false flag terrorists, or are created by our own security services. In the United States, every single terrorist incident we have had has been a false flag, or has been an informant pushed on by the FBI. In fact, we now have citizens taking out restraining orders against FBI informants that are trying to incite terrorism. We’ve become a lunatic asylum.”

Indeed, we’ve become a lunatic asylum.

Why would you need to ask that? All you need to do is look at the photo's of the attackers. It clearly shows all of them look to be pretty unstable people who probably most are under SSRI meds.
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(08-05-2019 11:34 PM)Days of Broken Arrows Wrote:  
(08-05-2019 02:10 PM)Johnnyvee Wrote:  
(08-05-2019 01:53 PM)Days of Broken Arrows Wrote:  
(08-05-2019 01:43 PM)Johnnyvee Wrote:  
(08-05-2019 01:10 PM)Days of Broken Arrows Wrote:  The more I read about the Ohio shooting, the more I think it might have been some sort of family feud that exploded into the public arena when the guy went berserk.

The guy killed his own sister. What are the odds that was random? The odds are better that she was the primary target and everyone else just happened to be there.

Whenever cops deal with murder, the first suspects they look for are family members because most disputes happen within families. It stands to reason that's probably the case here.

I won't be surprised if it comes out that the killer and his sister had been having nasty arguments in the days or weeks before the shootings.

...and you kill your family members due to having nasty arguments? That can`t be the underlying reason.

Yeah, it can. I can't tell you how many stories I've read where the plot goes "He argued and left the house. He then returned with a gun." Some people are psychotic and go into murderous rages.

In this case, the shooting happened to be in the public arena, not the home, but my instinct tells me a family dispute will be at the root of this -- if the cops can get to the bottom of it. And it might be something as trivial as he didn't like who she was dating or "Mom always liked her best."



I see you point! But you have to ask why people are psychotic? It`s not something you see with hunter-gatherers, or with other primates in the wild for that matter. I refer to my post above for some of these reasons, mainly revolving around a novel industrial diet. (standard American diet)

Yes, the American diet is awful. Just look around at the lard-asses and you can see that.

But I think it takes more than a bad diet or a lousy culture (i.e. video games, trashy pop music) to prompt someone to go through all the effort to plan out a shooting in public, then carry it out.

After all, a lot of people eat Tastycakes and Little Debbie's while playing World of Warcraft and listening to Top 40. The vast majority of them don't kill anyone.

Regarding the Ohio shooter: An ex-girlfriend is on record now saying he "heard voices." This is a classic symptom of several mental illnesses.

As we've discussed on this forum before, we used to lock these kinds of people up back in the old days. Family members would have them involuntarily committed to mental institutions.*

Now we put them on meds and let them run free, hoping for the best. Well, the best didn't happen in this case.

* This was so common that it was a regular topic in rock songs during the 1960s. The best examples are The Move's "Cherry Blossom Clinic," The Who's "Whiskey Man," and Napoleon's XIV's "They're Coming To Take Me Away."


Again, I see your point but;

-The dietary changes referred to have come about in more recent years, and have become progressively more extreme. The same thing with the meds.

-The aetiology of psychosis is relatively well understood, and it has to do with excesses in dopamine mainly. I`m not gonna rant on for long about this now, but there is no way anyone can be psychotic on a paleo/keto diet, including elimination of stimulants like caffeine. It`s a somatic disorder of the brain and possibly involving the endocrine system also. This is the major problem I have with psychology, it`s not based on real science. Even though the data is there!

-People are being locked up and drugged today also, and the underlying reasons for their problems are not addressed. This is because to much money is made selling crap foods and meds. You see the same dynamic in prisons also. In fact it`s hard to tell the difference between a mental institution and a prison in many ways.

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(08-06-2019 06:56 AM)Belgrano Wrote:  It is rather unbelievable for anyone who "got radicalized" on 8chan or 4chan to not mention a certain tribe of happy merchants and rootless cosmopolitans.

It's the single most important and recurring topic on both /pol/ boards, the explanation of everything and reason for anything.
Each and every discussion there eventually boils down to this.
There's just no escape.

Seems weird to me.

These shooters even supposedly wrote extensive manifestos with seemingly "complex" ideological talking points yet even then they failed to mention a certain tribe of hook nosed money lenders even once.

The other facet about these incidents is if they took all this time to prepare and plan then all they could do is shoot up a Wal Mart?


Really?

If someone really had that time to plan all this shit you would think they would be able to trace it all to certain high agency groups and very specific rootless cosmopolitan individuals who are actually in charge of things.

Shooting Mexican peons shopping for plastic goods doesn't actually change the world.
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Am I a very bad person when I say that I get completely desensitised by these shootings? Maybe it's because I've watched almost zero mainstream news on TV in the past half decade, but I honestly can't tell all the recent ones apart anymore. I read something about the "MAGA bomber" the other day, and I realised I had forgotten about him completely. If there is some false-flag conspiracy, it seems to mainly have short-term effects: steal this particular midterm election, effectively ban this particular site (8chan), etc.

False flag is kind of a misnomer here anyway. It's more like the shooters are operating under authentic flags that are then falsified or ignored by the media. To simplify a bit, both are socialists. Assuming the manifesto is real, the El Paso one is a nationalist socialist (I read somewhere he's Jewish, no idea if that's true), and the Dayton guy is an internationalist socialist. So the one is related to a political current that has almost zero status in the US, and the other one is associated with Sanders, AOC, Antifa, anti-ICE activists, etc. The former gets blamed on the GOP and Trump (whom he explicitly denounced for being too weak and capitalistic), the latter gets ignored.

It's hard to really develop a response to this in the sense that any lonely kid with degenerate facial features and doped up to the eyeballs on anti-depressants can go out, shoot some people, and post some derivative manifesto, even if we assume that all of this is 100% authentic and spontaneous. The most you can hope for is that more people walk away from mainstream news and don't base their political decisionmaking on the massacre du jour. The most any individual can do is keep pointing friends and family to the real issues in the world, put their own affairs in order, and keep a realistic view of the world but without cracking up in despair like these shooters.
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Video on Daily mail in this link has a Spanish speaking woman (witness) who says there were multiple shooters wearing black. I guess this video got buried by the big media:

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Am I an asshole because I don't go into these emotional outbursts when this kind of shit happens? I was on the George Washington at the north end of Manhattan two days before the World Trade Center was attacked. I was about 100 miles away when it happened, and I knew one person who got out alive.

I didn't have an emotional breakdown when it happened. I did tear up a little when I read about the firemen who lost their lives. But, other than that, it wasn't excuse to go batshit crazy. I knew that there was nothing I could do about it and that any expression of emotion would not change anything.

I'm sick and tired of watching people cry, rant, and rave about this stuff. Unless someone close to you has been impacted, it does not impact your life at all. I'm also sick and tired of all these commemorations and memorials. Get over it.

Of course, I go to funerals. I have been to see lots of people who died. I don't go to funerals because someone has died. I go to a funeral because someone has lived. A funeral is a celebration of the life that has been lived.

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(08-06-2019 11:20 AM)El Chinito loco Wrote:  
(08-06-2019 05:32 AM)Frostbite Wrote:  You lot are fucking hilarious. When it’s a far right attack it’s a false flag but when it’s an Islamic attack it’s real?

They’re all fucking false flags. The media are playing you like violins.

If you ever wondered what modern “divide and conquer” looks like, this is it.


No, of course not.

There is an entire subforum which is the politics section which questions the entire middle east conflict from the start and various "shootings" which seem to facilitate public support for neocon policies to go to war for Israel.

Some Islamic attacks were real, others were pretty clear to be fishy from the start. But they do have the Religion of Peace to ask their members to do their shit since over 1400 years, so it's not as if there is no precedent for it. Still - I can easily discount a few attacks - Boston Marathon bombing, London 7/7 - some cases the supposed bombmers weren't even in the bus as it blew up etc. Especially secular Muslim guys when approached by someone at the FBI/CIA/MI6 asked to infiltrate terrorists without any official training as an operative - the first response is - tell them to fuck off. However there are quite a few attacks which look awfully real - that Muslim couple shooting up their office, neighbors even getting ISIS videos over their wifi-network, various Trucks of Peace which can be easily done by one guy quickly, truck drivers being murdered - sometimes I knew people who knew the victims. There is plenty of real shit when your prophet asks to kill the unbelievers and use terror.

Still - again - you have to take a good look and see the truth. As for the "White Supremacist" shooters - it's instantly fishy. The reason is because there is a lacking motivation. So you have an anti-immigration guy who drives for 65 miles while he could go to the nearest high-density Mexican area in his hometown? There is a ton of things that don't add up at all. And the media suckers want to use the term "White terrorism"? So a night club shooting in a black club is a part of black terrorism now?

Plus it's the kind of terrorism the elite wants to see the most - if it's not happening organically, then they make it happen. Just as in some busts it turns out that the majority of Neonazis are undercover agents including all the leadership there. There was one hilarious stunt done in the US I read about where everyeone at the top was an agent from various different agencies. The media also is busy hyping up the few real cases even if no new ones are coming forth. And if there is a lack of attacks, then they make it happen with their magic fake attack teams etc. The same is likely the case with some Islamic attacks. The funny part is that Islamic attacks happen often enough, but are small fish - localized single actors, the big ones are often quite shady and doubtful.
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(08-06-2019 05:36 AM)Simeon_Strangelight Wrote:  
(08-05-2019 11:17 PM)captain_shane Wrote:  There wouldn't be conspiracies about these shootings if there wasn't strange shit about every single one of them.

Dayton shooter apparently died in 2014

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First viewed in 2014. So, this isn't something that was put up in the last few days.

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El Paso Shooter:

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If these are real headlines, then they picked different patsies in those shots. The Jewish guy on the right wrote the manifesto and the one on the left did the deed high on drugs.

No idea what the heck is going on with those shootings. Currently you cannot trust for any of them to be real.

Was there a training of a shooting nearby on the same day? When yes, then it was another one of those false flag operations.

In any case the likelihood of becoming the victim during a mass shooting is low unless you enter a wrong kind of neighborhood in the US.

Aside from the constant false flags then you have pharmeceuticals which have "murderous rage" as a side-effect. How the heck are those meds even legal? Anything that has murderous rage as a side effect should be pulled from the market instantly. Countless people kill their own families while being on those drugs. Others go and do shootings.

Ah well - guess we won't find out the truth anyway. Then of course Antifa-supporters are becoming right-wingers in the media narrative.
That’s what I’m saying, they clearly are not the same person. This part reminds me of the Aurora shooting. They haven’t changed the playbook. Which makes me think the Dayton shooting was unrelated and not a false flag, especially given the shooter was a leftist antifa that Soros likes.
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Nothing to see, move along...

Quote:CHICAGO CHAOS: Major Hospital ‘Closes Doors to Patients’ After 51 Shot, 7 Killed During Deadly Weekend.

Chicago’s famous Mount Sinai hospital temporarily shut its doors to new patients over the weekend; with doctors and first responders totally overwhelmed after 51 shootings occurred during a single weekend.

“Mount Sinai Hospital in Chicago was forced to temporarily close its doors to new patients over the weekend after shootings and accidents throughout the Illinois city overwhelmed emergency medical officials,” reports Fox News.

“The hospital, located on the city’s west side, went on bypass at 4:30 a.m. Sunday and were off bypass status by 6:30 a.m.,” adds Fox. “‘Bypass’ is a term used for when a hospital asks that emergency vehicles, like ambulances, pass their facility and bring patients to other locations.”

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We can go in circles all day about food quality, drugs and guys needing to get laid and other pointless philosophical shit but lets not get distracted from the key agenda at play here.

They want your guns.

They want you to give government and authorities more power to fuck you with.

This ambiguous war on terror we happily handed over our rights too post 9/11 is now aiming its scopes on 'right' leaning dissidents and white people. The war on white terror for fucks sake.

The fact that some of these shooters are brainwashed Antifa types and other questionable legitimacy of official accounts does not matter. The (((media))) and all the (((powers))) that be are only pushing one narrative, their narrative. The demonization and fear being peddled is almost something you would see before a full scale genocide or eradication of opposing political faction.
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^^^ This man speaks the truth!

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One thing all these MASS shootings have in common - the victims were unarmed.
Whenever there is an armed person in the crowd who resists and fires back, even if they are terrible shots, the shooter runs away or dies in a few seconds and the shooting never reaches "mass shooting" status.

The only question is who holds the guns - the citizens or the state.

As the old saying goes - Gun Control is not about guns, it is about control.
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Why would they care about your guns if they have bigger guns? And tanks and missiles. I seriously think the right’s obsession with guns is totally misguided. If they wanted to take them away they would have done it already.
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So what are your guys's solution to this?

Instead of focusing on "they are going to take our guns!!!"

What are we going to do to prevent crazy radical lunatics from mowing down our fellow innocent Americans of all races, and make sure we decrease these types of events?

Responsible gun owners, Liberals and Conservatives alike, need to come to the table and come up with plans and solutions to keep guns out of the hands of these crazy lunatics that are walking into our walmarts, churches, schools, busting windows overtop of concerts, and mowing down our fellow Americans.
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(08-07-2019 08:08 AM)TigerMandingo Wrote:  Why would they care about your guns if they have bigger guns? And tanks and missiles. I seriously think the right’s obsession with guns is totally misguided. If they wanted to take them away they would have done it already.

That is an exceptionally naive line of thinking.

I think the left's myopic, childlike trust of government is totally misguided.

The fact is that until now they have not had the vehicle with which to seize guns by force from anyone and everyone they choose. That has now changed. Once the "red flag" laws are on the books, in conjunction with the Patriot Act, the 2nd Amendment is effectively repealed.

A "red flag" can be pinned on you for merely disagreeing with the government. Or reading the wrong book or blog. Then, without any form of due process, and no way to fight it, your guns, and anything else they may care to take, can be seized. And that effectively repeals the 1st and 4th Amendments.

I don't know if you are an American or not, TM, but without those rights, there is no America.
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(08-07-2019 08:08 AM)TigerMandingo Wrote:  Why would they care about your guns if they have bigger guns? And tanks and missiles. I seriously think the right’s obsession with guns is totally misguided. If they wanted to take them away they would have done it already.

It's a distraction technique.

The Right claims it's still free as long as it has its guns. Yeah, your taxes are going up but you still have your guns, and if they come for the guns hoo boy they'll regret it!!!
Indoctrinating kids into LBGT shit in their mandatory ethnically diverse classrooms? Well, we still got the guns, and if they come for the guns hoo boy they'll regret it!!!
Censored from the internet and banned from social media platforms that are almost becoming mandatory to get a job?
Well, we still got the guns, and if they come for the guns hoo boy they'll regret it!!!
Being flooded with 3rd world human detritus?
Well, we still got the guns, and if they come for the guns hoo boy they'll regret it!!!

It's a smart play. TMD is correct. If they wanted the guns they could take them. Look at how traditionalist Californians and New Yorkers aren't tossing bales of tea into the harbor. But they let a whole bunch keep their guns because they know they can virtually assign them a bunk in a FEMA camp and slowly starve them to death as long as they're allowed to bring their black rifles.

Because if they have their rifles then they're free!

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(08-07-2019 08:33 AM)perros Wrote:  So what are your guys's solution to this?

Instead of focusing on "they are going to take our guns!!!"

What are we going to do to prevent crazy radical lunatics from mowing down our fellow innocent Americans of all races, and make sure we decrease these types of events?

Responsible gun owners, Liberals and Conservatives alike, need to come to the table and come up with plans and solutions to keep guns out of the hands of these crazy lunatics that are walking into our walmarts, churches, schools, busting windows overtop of concerts, and mowing down our fellow Americans.

The solution is keep our guns, and keep spreading them around so criminals can be neutralized when they appear.

Otherwise Whites and tens of thousands of other Americans will be genocided once the guns are gone.

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Only fools do not see what comes next after gun control, and next generation Democrats who want to tax us for trillions.

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(08-07-2019 08:33 AM)perros Wrote:  So what are your guys's solution to this?

Instead of focusing on "they are going to take our guns!!!"

What are we going to do to prevent crazy radical lunatics from mowing down our fellow innocent Americans of all races, and make sure we decrease these types of events?

Responsible gun owners, Liberals and Conservatives alike, need to come to the table and come up with plans and solutions to keep guns out of the hands of these crazy lunatics that are walking into our walmarts, churches, schools, busting windows overtop of concerts, and mowing down our fellow Americans.

Simple - Just make all guns illegal! It worked for drugs, right? Nobody can get any of those, right?

This is absurd. Why JUST come up with a solution to this particular crime? Why not ALL crime? Why JUST this one?

Look how easily you are manipulated by this "crisis" to clamor for someone to keep you "safe" by passing more laws and further restricting the Rights and Liberty of law abiding people.

Evil acts are going to happen. And they will happen in direct proportion to the decay level of a society's moral compass. The solution to that is not in Congress or the White House. Nor is the solution in infantalizing the American people.
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(08-07-2019 08:52 AM)Baphomet Wrote:  
(08-07-2019 08:33 AM)perros Wrote:  So what are your guys's solution to this?

Instead of focusing on "they are going to take our guns!!!"

What are we going to do to prevent crazy radical lunatics from mowing down our fellow innocent Americans of all races, and make sure we decrease these types of events?

Responsible gun owners, Liberals and Conservatives alike, need to come to the table and come up with plans and solutions to keep guns out of the hands of these crazy lunatics that are walking into our walmarts, churches, schools, busting windows overtop of concerts, and mowing down our fellow Americans.

Simple - Just make all guns illegal! It worked for drugs, right? Nobody can get any of those, right?

This is absurd. Why JUST come up with a solution to this particular crime? Why not ALL crime? Why JUST this one?

Look how easily you are manipulated by this "crisis" to clamor for someone to keep you "safe" by passing more laws and further restricting the Rights and Liberty of law abiding people.

Evil acts are going to happen. And they will happen in direct proportion to the decay level of a society's moral compass. The solution to that is not in Congress or the White House. Nor is the solution in infantalizing the American people.


Ok, so I go back to my original question. 99% of the people in America who own guns are responsible citizens. What are we going to do about the 1% of crazy lunatics who do use their guns for malicious and demonic purposes and keep guns away from those people? If you say that passing more legislation isn't the solution, then what is? The more these shootings keep happening, the more this question will arise. If you don't want the government to get involved, then have responsible gun owners to come to the table and offer solutions to keep guns away from these sick lunatics.
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Or don't bother.

Nobody at any governmental level is interested in your opinion. They all have an agenda and either you resist it or you support it.

Your attempt to find some kind of nuance is irrelevant. You either side with the political powerbrokers or you resist them. Everything else is just mental masturbation.

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