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RE: Are most married couples unhappy?
I’ve never heard of premarital assets being stripped or shared. Can you elaborate where you heard this?

The typical in California is to split post marital assets 50/50 and pay alimony for half the marriage length if the marriage is under 10 years. If the marriage is over 10 years then the length is the judges descretion. This is standard.

As to the thread title, there are plenty of happily married people. Marry for character not looks. Make sure you fully vet them. It’s not rocket surgery.
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(08-19-2019 07:30 AM)RoastBeefCurtains4Me Wrote:  I would like to see a situation where male contraceptives are reliable, and nearly all men are aware of red pill truths about women's behavior and marriage risks.

In this environment, I'd like to see a new marriage contract that gives the man rights to custody of his children, and strong protections against divorce. In turn, the wife would be protected if he was the one who filed for divorce without just cause.

Now, with male contraceptives and a red pill understanding, men would refuse to impregnate any woman without having this new contract in place. If a woman wasn't willing to agree to the new terms, she could just go without bearing any children, because no man would willingly go off the male contraceptives with her in the absence of the contract.

There already is a perfect "male contraceptive": It's called abstinence.

Male self control is the key to not get fucked over. Before or within marriage.

Beta men are controlled with sex.
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Someone here doubted the happiness studies they had over the decades:

Quote:By many objective measures the lives of women in the United States have improved over the past 35 years, yet we show that measures of subjective well-being indicate that women's happiness has declined both absolutely and relative to men. The paradox of women's declining relative well-being is found across various datasets, measures of subjective well-being, and is pervasive across demographic groups and industrialized countries. Relative declines in female happiness have eroded a gender gap in happiness in which women in the 1970s typically reported higher subjective well-being than did men. These declines have continued and a new gender gap is emerging -- one with higher subjective well-being for men.

https://www.nber.org/papers/w14969

There were not long ago great graphs on google going back to the 1950s, but Google seems to have scrubbed the data, but even in the 1970s it was better.





Bit this is how it went down - relentless programming to tell women that they missed out on something for not getting a "career", for being kept in marriage hell, for not having the hotter more successful husband!

It was all a ruse just as they knew exactly how no-fault divorce would destroy marriage giving women way too much power - this all coincided with the relentless propaganda, with the call to jump on the sex carousel until the end 20s.

Babyboomer men were just convinced with the stupid free love mantra while in reality they had way more power and satisfaction in the monogamous marriage bond as well.

Obviously now they have destroyed the institution so that Red Pilled men cannot really get married in many Western countries, but this frankly is just a by-product. The bigger destruction happend in the female mentality while the legal issue is just the tinder to the bonfire.

Go and watch that takedown of the movie Stepford Wives - the title is fitting.

It's really telling that the hostile elite says: "Trust us, you are unhappy! You will be much more happy as a strong independent woman hopping on the carousel until your 30s and then divorcing your husband in your late 30s!" They mainly had to convince the women while giving them also the legal power to blow up marriages and cripple husbands. The men went along initially thinking that free love would men more sex for them while in reality only the 10-20% got far more sex with women who they would have had married before in their prime in the 1960s. Later it was too late to stop the genie as more and more men got gang-raped and women suddenly were dissatisfied with everything. The elite also got their will and could finally lower the real wage costs as women pushed into the labor force and undercut male labor before mass migration could do it stronger in the coming decades.

There is nothing wrong with the original marriage institution - however this kind of marriage is akin to shitty gay marriage which is more like room-mates sharing rent and fucking constantly on the side.
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RE: Are most married couples unhappy?
(Yesterday 05:46 AM)Simeon_Strangelight Wrote:  Someone here doubted the happiness studies they had over the decades:

Quote:By many objective measures the lives of women in the United States have improved over the past 35 years, yet we show that measures of subjective well-being indicate that women's happiness has declined both absolutely and relative to men. The paradox of women's declining relative well-being is found across various datasets, measures of subjective well-being, and is pervasive across demographic groups and industrialized countries. Relative declines in female happiness have eroded a gender gap in happiness in which women in the 1970s typically reported higher subjective well-being than did men. These declines have continued and a new gender gap is emerging -- one with higher subjective well-being for men.

https://www.nber.org/papers/w14969

There were not long ago great graphs on google going back to the 1950s, but Google seems to have scrubbed the data, but even in the 1970s it was better.





Bit this is how it went down - relentless programming to tell women that they missed out on something for not getting a "career", for being kept in marriage hell, for not having the hotter more successful husband!

It was all a ruse just as they knew exactly how no-fault divorce would destroy marriage giving women way too much power - this all coincided with the relentless propaganda, with the call to jump on the sex carousel until the end 20s.

Babyboomer men were just convinced with the stupid free love mantra while in reality they had way more power and satisfaction in the monogamous marriage bond as well.

Obviously now they have destroyed the institution so that Red Pilled men cannot really get married in many Western countries, but this frankly is just a by-product. The bigger destruction happend in the female mentality while the legal issue is just the tinder to the bonfire.

Go and watch that takedown of the movie Stepford Wives - the title is fitting.

It's really telling that the hostile elite says: "Trust us, you are unhappy! You will be much more happy as a strong independent woman hopping on the carousel until your 30s and then divorcing your husband in your late 30s!" They mainly had to convince the women while giving them also the legal power to blow up marriages and cripple husbands. The men went along initially thinking that free love would men more sex for them while in reality only the 10-20% got far more sex with women who they would have had married before in their prime in the 1960s. Later it was too late to stop the genie as more and more men got gang-raped and women suddenly were dissatisfied with everything. The elite also got their will and could finally lower the real wage costs as women pushed into the labor force and undercut male labor before mass migration could do it stronger in the coming decades.

There is nothing wrong with the original marriage institution - however this kind of marriage is akin to shitty gay marriage which is more like room-mates sharing rent and fucking constantly on the side.
A while back I posted about our wild parties in the 1970's which was the decade when things really began to cut loose, not the 60's. Before the so called sexual revolution began in earnest a kind of reverse 80/20 rule was in effect. For generations the worst thing that could happen to a "good girl" was to lose her reputation. You had to be going steady if not engaged (still lots of young marriages back then) to have a chance. Even then sex was doled out in slow steady increments, often stopping short of going "all the way." The 20% or so of young women who would "put out" were still for the most part not wildly indiscriminate. The 70's began to chip away at that but even then no one was accumulating triple digit notch counts and eventually almost everyone got married and at least tried to settle down. I actually think the 80's was in some ways a bit more conservative than the 70's, the AIDS scare having more than a little to do with that. In the 90's I believe is when things really started going crazy. Despite it all many Boomers had Gen X and even Millennial kids who followed a more or less traditional path to marriage. I know a lot of these kids that are now adults making their way in modern day America. As for your pro traditional view point I am in now way criticizing or disagreeing. Yes today's modern women is much less happy than their mothers and grandmothers were.
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(Yesterday 05:46 AM)Simeon_Strangelight Wrote:  Babyboomer men were just convinced with the stupid free love mantra while in reality they had way more power and satisfaction in the monogamous marriage bond as well.

Boomer here .........
Nobody convinced me of anything, I complied with the laws, or I went to jail.
No free love or sex parties either.
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(Yesterday 02:55 PM)John Dodds Wrote:  
(Yesterday 05:46 AM)Simeon_Strangelight Wrote:  Babyboomer men were just convinced with the stupid free love mantra while in reality they had way more power and satisfaction in the monogamous marriage bond as well.

Boomer here .........
Nobody convinced me of anything, I complied with the laws, or I went to jail.
No free love or sex parties either.

Yeah - most of it was done silently with lies and stealth. The repercussions of feminism and no-fault divorce was not clear just as the immigration change of 1965 was not clear - plus they lied through their teeth.

Still - the conditioning via media and entertainment shaped and changed Boomer behavior tremendously even if they could not manifest most of the crap until the next generation came into being. The full destruction was only apparent among the Millennials. And even they are hardly the end-stage.

You are right however - this blaming on the boomers for everything is ridiculous. Generation X or the Millennials wouldn't have behaved any differently if they were born then instead of the Boomers.
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