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RE: Hong Kong protests 2019
Quote:China is a very homogeneous large country, 91% Han Chinese.

This is clearly written by someone who has not been in China. Suits has been living in China for at least 5 years.

China might be homogenous racially being 91% Han, but its because of a historical government classification. The Han Chinese as a group are about as White Europeans as a group, except they speak a common first language and even then, Mandarin has only really starting to supplant dialect starting in the 1990s. Different provinces have different enough cultures and vibes that even foreign travelers can easily feel them. In fact, prefecture or even county has its own dialect AND cuisine. The people even look noticeably different between regions. The economic profile of each city/province is completely different. There's a lot of internal inequality between different regions or even within a province. Different provinces compete for resources, both physical and human capital.

Its obvious to everyone who has visited that every city in China has its own culture and offers different lifestyles. Even the local CCP branches in each city implements the law very differently. Urumqi and Shanghai might as well be on different planets. We don't even need to be this extreme: I know people from Dongbei and Shandong who are completely unable to adjust to Shanghainese food, business etiquette, and local customs.

I can confidently say that cultural and economic differences between provinces in China are larger than such differences between US states.


There's a reason why in absence of a strong, iron fisted dynastic ruler, a role the CCP is currently filling, China always ends up in civil war throughout history. Wars, including civil wars, are the clashes that occur when different groups of people take on different forms of nationalism and/or ideologies that are in direct conflict of each other. You need heterogeneity for this to even be a possibility.

Quote:As to the rest, I will simplify things for you and the other "Chicom" fearmongers. Here's a basic fact for you to chew on:

-Since the 1960s, every generation of Chinese people is better off than its parents' generation, and this will be true for the foreseeable future.

-Since the 1960s, every generation of American, Canadian and Western European people is worse off than its parents' generation, and this will be true for the foreseeable future. Not just this, but in fact most of our original peoples are being replaced.


Most of the guys who lived in China on this forum lack a complete historical perspective on China, they've only been there in the last 10-20 years. China was a third world country in the 1980s.


More facts about China:

-Hong Kong is a Chinese city. It was officially taken over by the Brits after the Opium Wars, when Chinese coastal cities were turned into drug-infested ghettos with a quarter of men hooked on opium, with the huge profits siphoned by the (((bankers))).

The reality on the ground in Hong Kong is:

The current generation of Hong Kong people is significantly worse off than its parents' generation, and this will be true for the foreseeable future. Not just this, but in fact most of its original peoples rightfully perceive themselves being replaced.

Yes, Hong Kong is originally a part of China and Chinese sovereignty over it resumed in 1997. And yes, 95% of Hong Kong permanent residents are Chinese. On the other hand, Hong Kong was built from a collection of villages into a powerhouse city-state under British rule. All infrastructure is built to British standards and the local culture has very strong elements of British influence unseen elsewhere in China.

The British might have taken Hong Kong with very questionable, if not unethical means, but you have to acknowledge that it was under British rule, or more like the combination of the hardworking local Chinese and a hands-off yet stable/clean governance British framework after 1967, that Hong Kong became the iconic Pearl of the Orient it has been since the 1980s.

As I said, Chinese nationalism under the stewardship of the CCP and Hong Kong localism are 2 different types of "nationalisms" built on different histories and creeds based on preserving and advancing very different interests. This is true even if the bulk of Hong Kongers were descendants of Cantonese and Fujianese people who immigrated from ~1950-1980. Hong Kong as a coherent distinct society with shared values was formed during the 1970s. During then, it was a British colony so of course, Hong Kong localism doesn't really align with the CCP model.

For those who say that Hong Kong is just another Chinese city, you clearly haven't been there. It was the CCP who came up with One Country Two Systems for Hong Kong specifically because of Hong Kong's very distinct culture and way of life from Mainland China in addition to its connections with the rest of the world.

Even when the Mainland Chinese visit Hong Kong, they consider it to be a trip "overseas". All the Chinese SOEs in Hong Kong do business as "_insert SOE name_ (Asia)". If Hong Kong is a Chinese city, there would be no need for that. Mainland students in Hong Kong are grouped in the "international students" category and require student visas. Mainlanders seeking jobs in Hong Kong also need to apply for work visas. Flights to Hong Kong from the Mainland all leave from the international terminal. Mandarin is a second language not used in everyday life at all there.

Quote:-The kind of repression we see in HK is no different than what is already happening in parts of the West. In fact, those evil ChiComs have been far more lenient so far on HK protestors than the French government on theirs.

We get that Macron is a EU puppet whose subjecting France to demographic-changing mass immigration, ghettos and crime, and unwanted overregulation. And we get that the French police have used questionable tactics that probably needs some type of investigation. There's no need to inject whataboutism into this.

Can we also not acknowledge at the same time that the CCP turns a blind eye, if not actively exacerbates, at the livelihood issues in Hong Kong while has been chipping away at the unique features of Hong Kong civic society at the same time? Can we not acknowledge that Hong Kong society has failed its younger Millennials and Gen-Z so badly that they have to take to the streets and support for the riots at 90% among 18-29 year olds?

Quote:What happens in HK or the Mainland has no impact whatsoever on our daily lives, at least in terms of our rights and freedom, which are increasingly threatened by our own governments. This forum will be shut down in the next couple of years if Warren is elected. It could also be shit down under Trump. Guys like Roosh are officially political dissidents who are getting obstructed and banned from traveling abroad.

Its only because the Chinese do not have the power to project into Western societies yet, if they ever will. Once they do have the power, you can expect them to wield it to their advantage. This is just human nature and applies to any group. European nationalism eventually turned into colonialism once they accumulated enough power to expand beyond Europe.

You are still allowed to post pro-China comments on this forum is because the West still has as veneer of freedom of speech. In China, dissenting opinions are essentially prohibited. Either you remain silent and go live your life apolitically, or you publicly toe the party line. I'm not ruling out China using its power to suppress freedom of speech abroad.

I get that Globohomo gay propaganda, wars, and mass immigration are awful, but its not like the CCP is on the side of Western nationalists. Of course you can always swap Make France/Canada Great Again with being a CCP spokesman in France/Canada as your main ideology.
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(10-17-2019 03:53 PM)Suits Wrote:  
(10-17-2019 02:04 PM)Vacancier Permanent Wrote:  I lived in China for 3.5 years and in HKG the past year. I might do a post on that in the future. Or I might not. I can see that the 50 cent army is strong even in here!

Now that you've left the mainland, how would you say that these predictions worked out?

https://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-50551.html

Quote:China is THE land of opportunties par excellence, in every aspect.

Quote:China is a mid-long term investment (think 3-5 years) that will yield very handsome dividends for anyone willing to put in the time.

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RE: Hong Kong protests 2019
(10-17-2019 12:28 PM)Suits Wrote:  
(10-16-2019 06:56 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  I want you to imagine that you were the sole sovereign monarch of a vast, largely homogeneous nation. All power to grant or remove freedoms, all power to monitor the citizenry or turn a blind eye were yours to decide.

How far would you be willing to go to retain heritage domination of the nation and ensure that your nation was not subverted by outside forces?

Except China is one of the least homogeneous countries in the world.

Additionally, the CCP's priority is not to avoid China being subverted by outside forces. It's main priority is to increase its own power, even if this is a net negative for the Chinese people. The ONLY reason they adopted the current model of letting the common people have relative freedoms was because trying to control every aspect of everyone's lives didn't work.

You can be sure that the moment they think they can swing it while maintaining their power and their wealth, they'll take away everyone's freedoms again. In fact, they are busy figuring out how to do that right now.

Your envy in the Chinese people and their government is unrealistic, uninformed and certainly misplaced.

I don't envy the Chinese people in as much as I don't want their government or their lifestyle but I'm also realistic enough to accept that Chinese people require Chinese solutions to Chinese problems and that Westerners bitching about the tyranny there is every bit as stupid as people in the US claiming that the right to bear arms is as reasonable a prospect for Europeans in Idaho as it is for Africans in Chicago.

My main problem though is that I keenly get the sense that people are dumb enough to be led by the nose like rats by the pied piper into tossing another generation of goyim kids into the MIC meat grinder "to fight Chinese tyranny". It's hard to escape this sense because as 911 notes nobody gives a shit about the Yellow Vest movement anymore because it's not on the television or in my social media drip feed.

As 911 noted there is also a strong difference between a totalitarian regime that provides an ascendant quality of life for its people and one that's the opposite such as what we're undertaking in all Western nations right now. I feel bad for the people of Hong Kong but we Europeans have our problems and going into a libertarian hissy fit over the fate of a Chinese province beggars belief.

The bottom line is that if Hong Kong was poor and wasn't an effective beach-head to launch globalist cultural war from then we wouldn't be hearing a peep about it and almost none of the people on this forum would give a damn about it, just like they don't give a damn about how many arms are getting hacked off in the Congo today.

Me? I don't care about the Congo and I don't care about Hong Kong except for the implications of this globalist intervention being foisted on us. Should it come as any surprise that the vast majority of people in Hong Kong wouldn't piss on you if you were on fire? I stand by my earlier point that people in the West love to obsess about fashionable far away problems happening to brown people because it helps them turn a blind eye to local degradation.

I have a deep respect for the wealth of on-the-ground knowledge certain forum members have on the country and its dynamics but the nuance of the situation isn't really the issue. Personally I'd like people to preface their opinions on this matter with "this is how much blood and treasure I'm willing to spend to protect the rights of the people of Hong Kong". For me that amount is zero.

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RE: Hong Kong protests 2019
(10-18-2019 01:53 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  
(10-17-2019 12:28 PM)Suits Wrote:  
(10-16-2019 06:56 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  I want you to imagine that you were the sole sovereign monarch of a vast, largely homogeneous nation. All power to grant or remove freedoms, all power to monitor the citizenry or turn a blind eye were yours to decide.

How far would you be willing to go to retain heritage domination of the nation and ensure that your nation was not subverted by outside forces?

Except China is one of the least homogeneous countries in the world.

Additionally, the CCP's priority is not to avoid China being subverted by outside forces. It's main priority is to increase its own power, even if this is a net negative for the Chinese people. The ONLY reason they adopted the current model of letting the common people have relative freedoms was because trying to control every aspect of everyone's lives didn't work.

You can be sure that the moment they think they can swing it while maintaining their power and their wealth, they'll take away everyone's freedoms again. In fact, they are busy figuring out how to do that right now.

Your envy in the Chinese people and their government is unrealistic, uninformed and certainly misplaced.

I don't envy the Chinese people in as much as I don't want their government or their lifestyle but I'm also realistic enough to accept that Chinese people require Chinese solutions to Chinese problems and that Westerners bitching about the tyranny there is every bit as stupid as people in the US claiming that the right to bear arms is as reasonable a prospect for Europeans in Idaho as it is for Africans in Chicago.

My main problem though is that I keenly get the sense that people are dumb enough to be led by the nose like rats by the pied piper into tossing another generation of goyim kids into the MIC meat grinder "to fight Chinese tyranny". It's hard to escape this sense because as 911 notes nobody gives a shit about the Yellow Vest movement anymore because it's not on the television or in my social media drip feed.

As 911 noted there is also a strong difference between a totalitarian regime that provides an ascendant quality of life for its people and one that's the opposite such as what we're undertaking in all Western nations right now. I feel bad for the people of Hong Kong but we Europeans have our problems and going into a libertarian hissy fit over the fate of a Chinese province beggars belief.

The bottom line is that if Hong Kong was poor and wasn't an effective beach-head to launch globalist cultural war from then we wouldn't be hearing a peep about it and almost none of the people on this forum would give a damn about it, just like they don't give a damn about how many arms are getting hacked off in the Congo today.

Me? I don't care about the Congo and I don't care about Hong Kong except for the implications of this globalist intervention being foisted on us. Should it come as any surprise that the vast majority of people in Hong Kong wouldn't piss on you if you were on fire? I stand by my earlier point that people in the West love to obsess about fashionable far away problems happening to brown people because it helps them turn a blind eye to local degradation.

I have a deep respect for the wealth of on-the-ground knowledge certain forum members have on the country and its dynamics but the nuance of the situation isn't really the issue. Personally I'd like people to preface their opinions on this matter with "this is how much blood and treasure I'm willing to spend to protect the rights of the people of Hong Kong". For me that amount is zero.

You feeling Hong Kong to be irrelevant doesn't mean that us Asian and/or Asia-based forum members shouldn't be allowed to discuss the implications, which will significantly impact their lives. There are multiple threads where the issues impacting whites can be freely discussed. On the flipside, there should also be a thread where we can level-headedly discuss a rarely seen major, highly emotionally-charged geopolitical and historical event in East Asia, which is home for many on here. No matter the endgame, our region has been changed by this event and the results will be obvious when the dust settles and trends set in stone.

For whites, Hong Kong might be a far away exotic land full of "brown people" (Hong Kong is about 90% Han Chinese and 2% white counting short-term expats but let's not digress). For Asians, Hong Kong is Asia's World City. The premier financial hub, the gateway between China and the world, and the premier shopping hub. This is where most Fortune 500 companies base their Asia-Pacific Headquarters out of and the overseas headquarters for Chinese corporations. For Hong Kongers, Hong Kong is home, the only home, that they know, fighting for a better tomorrow for. For Mainland Chinese, this is a once-in-decades test to national sovereignty and a highly delicate balancing act between global reputation and the power of the state. To those groups, and the rest of Asia, what happens to essentially the flagship city of the region will determine the fate of how the next couple of decades will unfold.

This is not targeted towards anyone specifically, but there is no need to barge in and be like "This issue doesn't affect me, the CCP is also an enemy of Globohomo, so I <3 CCP!!!" without understanding the nuances.
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(10-17-2019 06:21 PM)911 Wrote:  As to the rest, I will simplify things for you and the other "Chicom" fearmongers. Here's a basic fact for you to chew on:

-Since the 1960s, every generation of Chinese people is better off than its parents' generation, and this will be true for the foreseeable future.

-Since the 1960s, every generation of American, Canadian and Western European people is worse off than its parents' generation, and this will be true for the foreseeable future. Not just this, but in fact most of our original peoples are being replaced.

I don't think that's a fair comparison since the CCP actually made the 60s generation of Chinese really bad... As serpentza said, people like to give them credit for lifting China out of poverty when it was them who made China poor in the first place and starved millions of people!
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(10-18-2019 04:19 AM)Aquarius Wrote:  This is not targeted towards anyone specifically, but there is no need to barge in and be like "This issue doesn't affect me, the CCP is also an enemy of Globohomo, so I <3 CCP!!!" without understanding the nuances.

There is a tunnel vision when it comes to certain topics. Everything goes back to globohomo or the jews for many people. They will even post on threads that they say they don't care about in order to bring up those issues.

It reminds me of my grandfather who I loved greatly. I would hear the same stories over and over again. I just enjoyed hanging out with him and the excitement he displayed when telling me those stories. I noticed my father started doing the same thing. He ended up realizing he was doing it and said that is what happens when you get older. You stop making new stories and relive old ones... over and over again. Some people just need to vent. Imagine it as a charitable gesture.
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Epoch Times investigative journalist Joshua Philipp break down the threat of Huawei and communist China subversion, influence, and unrestricted warfare operations on the free world. Vividly describes the dystopian future of the world if the Communist Chinese party is not stopped.

"Huawei is the biggest national security threat that America has ever faced."



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Those gnarly Huawei plotters were also behind the Patriot Act.

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Let's get real.

The ZOG is shitting itself that the Chinese are not being subservient to them anymore and that once they gain the ability to run amok in Western information systems then they'll be able to blackmail all the pedophiles and thieves running DC until they're nothing but whipped vassals of Winnie the Jinping.

This doesn't end with China attacking the US or any other Western state. It ends with the utter corruption of our own ruling class being used to bind their hands with Chinese chains. It would go a long way to explaining why so many among the DNC have already been caught routinely opening back doors for the Chinese.

Quote:"Huawei is the biggest national security threat that America has ever faced."

Yeah. The mutually assured destruction of the entire word in a nuclear apocalypse for a couple of decades utterly pales in comparison to the Chinese hacking your comms. Dodgy

This kind of rhetoric is how you know you're being played.

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(10-18-2019 04:43 AM)Sosa Wrote:  Epoch Times investigative journalist Joshua Philipp break down the threat of Huawei and communist China subversion, influence, and unrestricted warfare operations on the free world. Vividly describes the dystopian future of the world if the Communist Chinese party is not stopped.

"Huawei is the biggest national security threat that America has ever faced."




I got 15 minutes through this video before my daily tolerance for asinine ignorant boomer hypocrisy went into the red. In the first five minutes the low T shifty-eyed guy right of stage talks about how he has a network of operatives in China, many of whom are doing 3-10 years in prison so that this faggot can get on stage and brag about his free-China project.

Wtf

Then the other one spends five minutes qualifying the whole premise of global interactions, that being "America good, China bad". He has the unmitigated gall to claim that America is the arbiter of peace and human rights throughout the world. Watch shifty-eyes-2 from 12:00 to 13:00 if you want a good laugh. When he talks about "pax americana" it seems like he's trying to convince himself as much as anyone else. The lack of self awareness in terms of what his own government is doing is either completely absent or deliberately ignored. Unbelievable!

These people are sick in the head and they have ushered in all that befalls them from this point.

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Globohomo hates white people, and Han Chinese hate all non-Han Chinese, including white people.

It is just a matter of time before Globohomo bows before China and alters the definitions of social justice to also include the moral directives of Chairman XI. SJWs are weak willed characters who bow to the power and lord over the powerless. Once China is strong, SJWs will bow to them. SJWs primarily hate white people and Chinese power doesn't threaten this.

In SJW world, Some people have to be feminist and others don't. Muslims throw gays off buildings overseas, but they are part of the coalition.

China has the social internet power that SJWs lust over. Of course, SJWs will serve Chinese masters to taste that power.

Right now it is fortunate that "pivot to China," is off. That means that the Globalists can't pull a South Africa on Europe and the USA yet. But, a convergence seems to be inevitable.
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RE: Hong Kong protests 2019
HK is the "money launderer" of mainland chinese. Generally speaking mainlanders create a company X in HK. Which then sends invoices to company Y in China mainland. This supports the transfer of money from company Y to outside China. From Hongkong they can do whatever they want with the money.

This is the more legal way. The other way is dumping a bag full of cash in a HSBC bank in HK. I´ve heard chinese mainlanders are using china sewers system to take out money from mainland.

China has capital flight restrictions to US$50,000 equivalent per person per year. And Hongkong bypasses this controls. This is why HK is china moneylaundering hub. By allowing chinese mainlanders to break the 50k restriction the money becomes illegal from the start. It doesn´t mean it´s ill gotten. But it becomes illegal when the 50k threshold is broken. This is why almost all chinese investment overseas is illegal. Because they broke the 50k threshold. And why at any given moment western countries can prosecute chinese criminally and take back those assets. As I suppose will happen sooner or later.

Anyway the extradition bill was in my opinion, which can obviously be wrong, a way of China controlling this scheme. And stopping the bleeding. It´s a leak in chinese capital control system.

Chinese know the writting on the wall. Next years will not be good for China.

At this moment they are probably studying all US coups which brought democracies to dictatorships in order to know how to avoid it. Macao had the same extradition treaty applied. No protests. And of course Portuguese politicians got some bribe and let it pass. Even though Macao is more about gaming and not banking.

I believe the strategy of US against China is wrong. Something had to be done. But not this way. Even though you have to praise Trump by refusing the billions on bribes which should have been offered to him by now.

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(10-18-2019 12:49 PM)Rotten Wrote:  Globohomo hates white people, and Han Chinese hate all non-Han Chinese, including white people.

Han Chinese have been the most open Asians to me as a white guy and I get along with them just fine. I'm obviously not chinese and will never be seen as such but there are a fairly large number of han people intermixed to some degree with persians, russians etc. so appearance wise my face isn't insanely different from some han people.

They don't like muslims from xinjiang for the same reasons that westerners always hated muslims (it's impossible to get along with these savages) but I think as long as there is only a small number of westerners in China we can generally get along with Chinese people.

If China was ever to have power over western countries they probably wouldn't impose Chinese culture but rather replace the globalists as corporate owners and instead of favoring women and (((diverse))) folks they would favor han with whites slowly being phased out for convenience.

Same game as before pretty much, but the housing crisis would probably be pragmatically resolved for what it's worth.
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(10-18-2019 01:44 PM)SomeOneSomeWhere Wrote:  
(10-18-2019 12:49 PM)Rotten Wrote:  Globohomo hates white people, and Han Chinese hate all non-Han Chinese, including white people.

Han Chinese have been the most open Asians to me as a white guy and I get along with them just fine. I'm obviously not chinese and will never be seen as such but there are a fairly large number of han people intermixed to some degree with persians, russians etc. so appearance wise my face isn't insanely different from some han people.

They don't like muslims from xinjiang for the same reasons that westerners always hated muslims (it's impossible to get along with these savages) but I think as long as there is only a small number of westerners in China we can generally get along with Chinese people.

If China was ever to have power over western countries they probably wouldn't impose Chinese culture but rather replace the globalists as corporate owners and instead of favoring women and (((diverse))) folks they would favor han with whites slowly being phased out for convenience.

Same game as before pretty much, but the housing crisis would probably be pragmatically resolved for what it's worth.

I have been living in China for many years. Individually, the people here are awesome. The government is a different story.

One must always keep in mind that the "Middle Kingdom" is an ideology that China is the centre of the universe.

They have their eye on Tibet, Hong Kong and Taiwan to bring -in their estimation - all Chinese together.
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Objectively untrue, but you have to admire their spirit.

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They stole the line from the Storm Area 51 group
10-19-2019 05:59 AM
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I think one thing we can all agree on is that this event has been outstanding in as much as its begun to shatter the globohomo corporatocracy phony lockstep with the progressive loudmouths.

Companies like Blizzard and the NBA are finally having to choose between serious money being lost or pandering to the social justice crowd who as we know accept no compromises on what they're allowed to say.

This is paradigm-altering stuff because the Chinese market is simply too big to cut loose yet the progressives will never accept a compromise because they've been raised on the expectation that these companies will always "buckle to their demands" if they screech loudly enough. Of course in the past these corporations were only ever "giving in" to cultural demands their overlords instigated in the first place but for the first time they've found themselves caught truly between a rock and a hard place.

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10-20-2019 07:29 AM
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(10-18-2019 04:43 AM)Sosa Wrote:  Epoch Times investigative journalist Joshua Philipp break down the threat of Huawei and communist China subversion, influence, and unrestricted warfare operations on the free world. Vividly describes the dystopian future of the world if the Communist Chinese party is not stopped.

"Huawei is the biggest national security threat that America has ever faced."




You have to be really sceptical of forum posters that dish up trash like this trying everything in their playbook to convince us that China is bigger than globohomo, hates white people, bemoan the immediate need for (corrupt) western intervention and then have the gall to label anyone that mentions Jews/Zionism as crazy conspiracy theorists.

Seriously what the actual fuck.

(09-19-2019 04:19 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  You cannot win playing in the enemy's house by the enemy's rules with the enemy acting as referee.
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(10-18-2019 01:44 PM)SomeOneSomeWhere Wrote:  
(10-18-2019 12:49 PM)Rotten Wrote:  Globohomo hates white people, and Han Chinese hate all non-Han Chinese, including white people.

Han Chinese have been the most open Asians to me as a white guy and I get along with them just fine. I'm obviously not chinese and will never be seen as such but there are a fairly large number of han people intermixed to some degree with persians, russians etc. so appearance wise my face isn't insanely different from some han people.

They don't like muslims from xinjiang for the same reasons that westerners always hated muslims (it's impossible to get along with these savages) but I think as long as there is only a small number of westerners in China we can generally get along with Chinese people.

If China was ever to have power over western countries they probably wouldn't impose Chinese culture but rather replace the globalists as corporate owners and instead of favoring women and (((diverse))) folks they would favor han with whites slowly being phased out for convenience.

Same game as before pretty much, but the housing crisis would probably be pragmatically resolved for what it's worth.

Are you talking about the English speaking crowd in China that has experience abroad, or the average Chinese person? Beware of the selection effect of the people you come into contact there. Most expats I knew were never able to establish very close friendships with local Chinese guys that didn't have extensive time living abroad, even if they are cordial during superficial interactions.
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Do Chinese still resent England (and their affiliated people) for the Opium wars ?
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The century of Humiliation? Fuck yes they do - but it was the French and the Americans et al. that quartered up Peking and sacked the Imperial Palace. Not just the Brits.

Its funny.

My first day proper in PRC yesterday and it felt like Japan/Germany in the 1930s. The amount of propaganda is off the scale.
Had my first experience of mobbing when loads of people surrounded a British guy I'd just met in a bar. This little old lady was trying to sell him 1 yuan fruit for 5 yuan each. he was cracking some jokes with her in Mandarin and then.. 5 people, 10 people, 15 people, pushing and shoving: lets get the fuck out of here.
On the way home yesterday afternoon, had a taxi driver (one that would actually stop for me) sneer at and eyeball me the whole journey, to the point where he almost went into the back of several cars.

I mean so what, right?
I remembered the Italia90 World Cup and football fever in England. In my small little town everyone would go to the pubs to watch the football and get blind and then spill out into the streets to headbutt lamp posts and fight each other.

There was a middle aged Choir group from the town's German twin town visiting on some civic good will tour. Given their age and interests, I doubt any of them gave two shits about football.

Turned out that they were saying their official goodbyes to the mayor at some civic ceremony and getting into their bus just as England went out in the Semi-Final on penalties to our hated German enemies.
Everybody spills out into the streets ripping Mercedes logos off cars and key-scratching and breaking windows of Volkswagens and Audis.
Then everyone sees this ... German Bus... with German plates... full of blinking, mild mannered German people... just sitting there in front of the pub.

So.. they acknowledged that other countries had every right to feel just as passionate about their own football teams and.. no wai- they broke all the windows and even got on the bus and roughed up some of the mild mannered Germans. Made the front page of the local paper with its readership, people who would actually bother to buy it, of all of 500. Police never meaningfully pursued it.
These days, as an example of white racism, it would be front page news nationwide.

The Chinese aren't the only ones who get riled up with Nationalism/Patriotism and direct it at other people.

It was a good perspective to have. Because not long after I had posted in the NBA Hypocrisy thread was awoken by several Chinese attacking the door of my hotel room, kicking it , punching it and yelling.. I rang the reception but they weren't interested. I went down later when the corridor was quiet and had a word.
Same thing I keep getting here, "we don't have to explain anything to you because you are a foreigner."

Breakfast this morning, with everyone glued to the screen showing CCTV4 and yet another 'wonderful China and wonderful Mao' documentary, was a tense affair.
Its their country - they can do what the fuck they want. They can arrest me and deport me for being foreign if they want to.

Just don't tell me that these people are not being whipped up to displace all their animus toward an outsider group. Because they are.
But that isn't the first time or place in history where this has happened.

From what I can tell it all depends on how much MAGA Globo-homo and the Swamp will allow. If not much then no problem.. this was a little vignette in history - like Chirac starting pacific nuclear testing again and the French getting all MFGA about it - for all of 5 minutes.

This country's government and people seem incredibly thin skinned because they are used to the globalist elites giving them everything for nothing.
When they encounter friction for the first time they get very excitable,
but maybe its only that: excitable.

I think what needs to be called out more and more is how Globo-Homo loves betraying its own people for the PRC's money and investment.
Mainland Chinese act like complete qunts at times in places like Canada, Melbourne, the UK and the elites won't allow criticism because they worship their money.
Its the same as the worship of Saudis and Qataris in the Uk where rich Arabs turned up to the hospice where my step-dad was dying of cancer and .. turned up as a fucking tribe of 25 people for one sick relative and kept bleating and moaning - the guy still had a long time to live apparently BUT my step-dad who had days to live got kicked out and we had to source all the oxygen and end stage care for the living room back home. The fucking Arabs wanted a guest room for healthy family members to stay overnight. I'd never heard of such a thing.
My dads village in the Scottish Highlands is effectively ruled by the land owning local Arab Sheik. the locals hate him.

During the 2018 mid term campaigns the CCP summoned the business owners of America to meetings and they all dutifully came and said "don't worry - he's going to lose the house! Don't worry! MAGA won't happen!"
"Better fucking not happen.."
They are answering to the CCP, not Trump, they hate Trump.

The thing that bothers me is that there is nowhere in the last city I lived in, Bristol UK, that anyone can afford to live. And construction people I talk to there say that the only permits the council is interested in is more student accommodation blocks for more Mainland Chinese students. That and more Somali immigrants.

If I walk down the street there I literally run into mentally ill migrants trying to start shit with anyone they meet.
If I complain to the authorities they do nothing about it.
If the same thing happens to Chinese students the fucking armed response units are put on standby.

Speaking to the local English teachers here it seems they don't really follow much of whats going on, just say that documentation is getting harder.
They don't have a fucking clue, cos just like Vietnam, they live in a Westernised bubble.
Long may that reign.
If Trump wins in 2020 and goes full MAGA on China then I advise foreigners in China to get the fuck out of dodge over the following year or so because it won't be pretty.
It will be unprecedented.
All because the CCP facing real shit from a >real< US president will be here-to-fore unprecedented.

But meanwhile Globo-homo will do everything they can to prevent a Trump win.
And little Benny Shapiro will be calling "arm the rebels" about a place, Hong Kong, he has never even visited.

Hong Kong belongs to China.
What they are doing there is wrong, though.
But having said that I wish the alphabet agencies and George Soroses of this world would BTFO out of there.

I will not condone or encourage violence because I might get banned but I will confess that I fantasise about the 'mobbing' and 'Tianamen'ing of our own treacherous Western elites, the UK parliament, the Procter and Gambles, the FatCat businessmen.

For me, the CCP can do whatever the fuck they want to keep out GloboHomo and Saudi mosque-building.
GloboHomo is such a sell out and they are such cowards though..
Don't tell me its China vs. GloboHomo and 'my enemy's enemy is my friend'.
When it comes to the prospects of black and white Western people .. they're both on the same side.
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^Post Of The Day

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delete: wrong thread.

After talking to a young lady for a while, she told me “Even though your skin is black, I can tell your heart is white.”
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