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RE: Hong Kong protests 2019
(10-20-2019 07:29 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  I think one thing we can all agree on is that this event has been outstanding in as much as its begun to shatter the globohomo corporatocracy phony lockstep with the progressive loudmouths.

Companies like Blizzard and the NBA are finally having to choose between serious money being lost or pandering to the social justice crowd who as we know accept no compromises on what they're allowed to say.

This is paradigm-altering stuff because the Chinese market is simply too big to cut loose yet the progressives will never accept a compromise because they've been raised on the expectation that these companies will always "buckle to their demands" if they screech loudly enough. Of course in the past these corporations were only ever "giving in" to cultural demands their overlords instigated in the first place but for the first time they've found themselves caught truly between a rock and a hard place.

This is a great little gem. Without getting too much off topic, what decisively popped the phony corporate BS bubble for me was a Gillette ad I saw earlier this May. I was in walking around in a supermarket in Singapore and there was this big inflatable Chinook helicopter thing lined with shaving razors. There was a big sign that said, "We Support The NS Man In You." In Singapore, every man must go through National Service (NS), which is like joining the army for 2 years. I thought to myself, "Hey, cool, it's nice to see some patriotism for a change," but then I looked closer and saw it was Gillette. The same Gillette that was shaming men in Western countries was at the same time pretending to have their back over in Singapore. I remember just staring at the razors in partial disbelief and laughing.




^Here's an ad they ran on TV. It's a great ad, but Gillette whaaat???
10-21-2019 09:32 PM
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RE: Hong Kong protests 2019
(10-20-2019 10:34 AM)Bienvenuto Wrote:  ...

For me, the CCP can do whatever the fuck they want to keep out GloboHomo and Saudi mosque-building.
GloboHomo is such a sell out and they are such cowards though..
Don't tell me its China vs. GloboHomo and 'my enemy's enemy is my friend'.
When it comes to the prospects of black and white Western people .. they're both on the same side.

I don't know if they are necessarily on the same side, but two enemies can exist simultaneously. After all, what about Islam? China, which some here say is anti-Globohomo, is cracking down hard on Islam in Xinjiang. Yet, we also have a thread about how Islam is a potential ally in the anti-Globohomo agenda. And very few Islamic countries are actually willing to put trade on the line and come out and openly criticize China for what they are doing there - because of money.

Point being, the alliances are blurry and nothing falls into a simple spectrum. The problem is still that we are trying to apply the globohomo nationalist mindset to Asia and that simply won't work, which is why so much of the discussion on this thread is garbled with people not knowing whom to root for and resorting to conspiracy theories.

The Chinese have been around longer than Western civilization - to look at everything happening there in our frame just won't cut it.

I think what you are meaning to say is that China is getting more nationalistic, but because they have money, Western corporations and universities are willing to roll out the red carpet and overlook the more conservative and less globalist aspects of China's agenda, just like Islamic countries overlook Xinjiang. It also helps that China is out there advocating for more free trade and globalism, because they are under no pressure to accept more immigrants and up till now have been able to subsidize their exports and gain market share abroad.

What this issue does is expose elites for their hypocrisy and how they use their ideals to push for goals to suit their agenda, and conveniently ignore those ideals when there is a conflict. Finally, now, post HK and NBA, it appears that they can't shirk these ideals as easily as before.

It's dangerous to say that whatever China is doing doesn't affect us. Ultimately, we live in a shrinking world of limited resources and China is making inroads not only in Southeast Asia, but Africa and South America as well. The idea that the U.S. can retreat and not care about the outside world worked great in the 1800's, but even then we had the Monroe Doctrine. I'm not some neocon saying we need to permanently occupy Syria or whatever - many realist thinkers that were against our Middle Eastern adventures see China's rise as the primary geopolitical threat. Resources are limited and arable land is shrinking - we have to be aware of the basic problem that rising powers are always a threat to status quo powers - this has always been the case throughout human history and isn't going away because of muh globohomo.

Perhaps the nationalists here are rightfully more worried about globohomo and immigration and I don't deny them that since it's an immediate and obvious threat. Those are easy problems, though, to solve once society gets its balls back. China, on the other hand, is a whole different beast and no matter how red pilled Western Civilization gets it will be a huge challenge to stop rising Chinese power without risking WW3.
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@Arado, I'd like to add on the Islam issue.

China isn't cracking down on Islam. The Uyghurs aren't the only Islam group in China, and not even the largest: There are more Hui than Uyghurs. And the other group that is starting to get forgotten who has gotten cracked down by the CCP, the Tibetans, are Buddhists.

What do Uyghurs and Tibetans have in common? They have serious, and actually workable, independence movements. On the surface, Xinjiang looks like an anti-Muslim measure because the Uyghurs are using jihad to achieve what they actually want: Independence, or at least self-determination. Likewise, Tibet looks like an anti-Globohomo measure because they lean on Globohomo to attempt to achieve what they want, which is also independence/self-determination.

The CCP doesn't care about Islamic ideology as long as its not weaponized against the CCP like the Uyghurs did to it. What the CCP cares about are potential challenges to its power and challenges to its national sovereignty. It has no room for serious self-determination movements, or realistic prospects of lands it currently rule breaking away.

This is why China is using Stalinist social control in Xinjiang: To ensure there is no room for a separate Uyghur identity that places being Uyghur, or Islam, above being Chinese, and to impose a Chinese identity under the stewardship of the CCP. If that's not happening smoothly like it hasn't been, they employ surveillance and repression to keep local residents regardless of ethnicity in fear, so that they're too afraid to even entertain the thoughts of anything besides towing the party line or at least staying silent and live an apolitical, materialistic life. This is not even directed towards the Uyghur people specifically: all Xinjiang residents are subject to the same surveillance although they are likely proportionally a lot fewer than the Uyghurs in the "vocational training centers".

In fact, the Uyghurs are actually encouraged to join the CCP and regularly become civil servants and police officers. Uyghurs (and Tibetans) who swear allegiance to the CCP actually receive very significant affirmative action along the way and get fast-tracked to higher status positions than their true capability allows.

Keep in mind the CCP has never renounced Communism: It just got modified to ensure survival, and prosperity, in a post-Cultural Revolution, post-Cold War geopolitical and economic environment.

This also probably explains the Arab countries' indifference towards Xinjiang, or in the case of Turkey, even praise.
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This is funny: bunch of Hong Kong protestors and Pakis get mad over the police water cannons accidentally spraying water on the steps of a mosque, then claims it's an infringement to freedom of religion. Shows its true GloboHomo colours.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/ten...story.html
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The CCP is pro Chinese supremacy and anti-western, and that makes them potential allies of the globohomo agenda even if the globohomos don't seem to have really realized that yet. The CCP does realize it, as evidenced by their use of SJW terminology when pushing back against western countries' anti-espionage efforts.

Why would the globohomos care about the Uighurs? They're Muslims, but they aren't overrunning western countries so the globohomos have no use for them.

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Hong Kong politicians AND the police both shit their pants and immediately apologise and kiss ass to the Muslim community for some accidentaly sprayed blue paint:






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Meanwhile....up north in mainland China they are destroying whole mosques, and bulldozing entire muslim cemeteries.
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(10-22-2019 03:00 PM)Dr Mantis Toboggan Wrote:  The CCP is pro Chinese supremacy and anti-western, and that makes them potential allies of the globohomo agenda even if the globohomos don't seem to have really realized that yet. The CCP does realize it, as evidenced by their use of SJW terminology when pushing back against western countries' anti-espionage efforts.

Why would the globohomos care about the Uighurs? They're Muslims, but they aren't overrunning western countries so the globohomos have no use for them.

This is what I've been trying to say all the time: The CCP doesn't have the power to reach into Western internal politics, or have entire Western countries under its suzerainty. But once/if they have the power to do so, they'll most likely keep globohomo intact while outlawing any Western nationalist movements.
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Protests, vandalism, street clashes and fires show no sign of stopping.
Here's the latest videos from October 20th and 21st








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(10-22-2019 05:42 PM)Aquarius Wrote:  
(10-22-2019 03:00 PM)Dr Mantis Toboggan Wrote:  The CCP is pro Chinese supremacy and anti-western, and that makes them potential allies of the globohomo agenda even if the globohomos don't seem to have really realized that yet. The CCP does realize it, as evidenced by their use of SJW terminology when pushing back against western countries' anti-espionage efforts.

Why would the globohomos care about the Uighurs? They're Muslims, but they aren't overrunning western countries so the globohomos have no use for them.

This is what I've been trying to say all the time: The CCP doesn't have the power to reach into Western internal politics, or have entire Western countries under its suzerainty. But once/if they have the power to do so, they'll most likely keep globohomo intact while outlawing any Western nationalist movements.

Exactly. In Imperial China the emperor was the only man allowed in the Forbidden City, the only other post-pubescent males around were eunuchs. Likewise China will only willingly tolerate other nations if they are castrated. Smaller countries and their neighbors can be castrated through economic and eventually military coercion, with western countries they have less economic and military leverage so they will seek to castrate us by promoting globohomo.
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…..And we're back to peddling the Chinese taking over the world and far worse than globohomo nonsense tard

(09-19-2019 04:19 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  You cannot win playing in the enemy's house by the enemy's rules with the enemy acting as referee.
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(10-22-2019 07:12 PM)Sword and Board Wrote:  …..And we're back to peddling the Chinese taking over the world and far worse than globohomo nonsense tard

No Chinese called me goy.

No Chinese encourages pre-pubescent boys to cut off their penis.

No Chinese promoted 'Piss Christ' art.

In other words, we got much bigger and realer problems than the Chinese.
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Playing devils advocate lets entertain this idea that China will Take over the world.

Globohomo follows the Talmud/satanic doctrine where a special group of people rule the new homogenized world of chaos as its superiors. It wishes to completely annihilate Christianity and people of European decent.

It wants our daughters to be little whores that twerk and behave like homosexual cosmopolitan men. It wants our sons to be nihilistic depressed slaves without religion nor identity.

China only care about the Chinese, they care about their traditions and their culture. As a white man I will still be allowed to congregate and form communities with other white people without forced diversity measures put in place to destroy me. The Chinese government will not care about my religion or if I don't like to associate with homosexuals. The Chinese government will not be sending transgenders to 'educate' school kids nor encouraging teachers and health professionals to convince minors of sex change.

As long as I 'bend the knee' to Chinese rule I still get to keep my identity. As a people, we would get to practice our own customs, culture etc in private. In fact it may even finally bring us together.

Can the same be said for Globohomo. No it cannot. Globohomo pries and forces its way into everything. Its about absolute control, and the destruction of anything that may not conform or stand in its way.

(09-19-2019 04:19 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  You cannot win playing in the enemy's house by the enemy's rules with the enemy acting as referee.
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^^^^ You clearly don't know history and don't know what you talking about. Educate yourself about Soviet Union, how much individual freedom people had there.
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(10-22-2019 07:54 PM)kiwi12 Wrote:  ^^^^ You clearly don't know history and don't know what you talking about. Educate yourself about Soviet Union, how much individual freedom people had there.

lol! You cite Soviet union and you're telling me to educate myself on the globohomo. Good one.

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(09-19-2019 04:19 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  You cannot win playing in the enemy's house by the enemy's rules with the enemy acting as referee.
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^^^^ No i'm telling you to educate about individual freedoms in Soviet Union.
Because only fool or somebody who don't know history will assume that:

(10-22-2019 07:46 PM)Sword and Board Wrote:  As long as I 'bend the knee' to Chinese rule I still get to keep my identity. As a people, we would get to practice our own customs, culture etc in private. In fact it may even finally bring us together.

How retarded you have to be to think that Communist party will give you any freedom?

Edit: Btw whats your race? Are you Chinese? Cause your shillin' for Chinese in this thread is excessive.
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(10-22-2019 07:46 PM)Sword and Board Wrote:  China only care about the Chinese, they care about their traditions and their culture. As a white man I will still be allowed to congregate and form communities with other white people without forced diversity measures put in place to destroy me. The Chinese government will not care about my religion or if I don't like to associate with homosexuals. The Chinese government will not be sending transgenders to 'educate' school kids nor encouraging teachers and health professionals to convince minors of sex change.

As long as I 'bend the knee' to Chinese rule I still get to keep my identity. As a people, we would get to practice our own customs, culture etc in private. In fact it may even finally bring us together.

Good point.

As an addition to this, I don't think people realize that the Chinese have more 'freedom' (such a dumb meaningless term) than the US/west.

Things the Chinese can't do in public:
-Criticize the government.
-Bad talk Chinese culture.

Everyone knows those two rules. They usually give you a warning or two before putting you in jail too.

Things Americans can't do in public:
-Be 'racist'
-Be 'misogynist'
-Be 'homophobic'
-Be 'islamaphobic'
-Be 'transphobic'
-Be an 'anti-semite'
-Be proud of your European heritage.
-Deny the Holocaust (will got to jail in some countries)
-Deny Sandy Hook.
-Wear blackface

There are probably more, but the rules change all the time. Even worse, the rules aren't even written down anywhere!

The main difference being that in the US the government won't prosecute you (yet...) for any of these wrongthink crimes. But you will get your life ruined if you go against globohomo. You can ask any of the guys that got doxxed at Charlottesville about that.

How's that for freedom of speech?

The only difference between late-stage capitalism and communism is that in late-stage capitalism you get persecuted by businesses while in communism you get persecuted by the government.

Back to Hong Kong, these people on the street don't know what US-style freedom entails. Honestly, I don't think most Americans know what American freedom even means.
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This is my bazillionth time repeating this in the thread but for real, the CCP will NOT tolerate serious Western nationalist movements in areas that they have control over. Anyone, or anything that they have control over and not fully subservient will be stamped out.

Do you know what the CCP considers the "Century of Humiliation" to be? Western nationalism. The CCP doesn't see Globohomo applied to Asia as Globohomo, but old fashioned white nationalism/supremacy.

You will not be left alone in a CCP-dominated world. There's no way they'll give power to Western nationalists, the very same people who they think defeated China for a century. As a westerner, you'll also be expected to toe the CCP party line just like the Chinese. In fact, the CCP would love to have an network of Sinophilic white underground Party members in key Western countries. And once you swear allegiance to the CCP, this means that you'll no longer be allowed to publicly worship any religion or root for your own ethnicity or race. Anything you do from that point on will be to advance the goals of the CCP. And as I said, the CCP and Western nationalism are NOT bedfellows due to the interpretation of history alone.

@Swords and Boards. I notice that you are Australian. You may diss Hong Kongers all you want now but once your country falls under CCP dominance, which is looking increasingly likely, you'll be longing for the good old days of 2019. At least in 2019 you can freely voice your opinions on the internet. In China, dissenting internet posts are simply scrubbed from the internet. Dissident internet influencers like Roosh will be called into questioning at a police station, where they'll demand Roosh delete his entire internet presence before letting him go. As far as I know, Roosh is doing a book tour in Globohomo America. There will be no book tour in China for their equivalent of a guy like Roosh.

@VNVet. Have you actually been to China and dealt with the woes of YouTube videos loading at only 360p and that's after you connect to a VPN, ubiquitous propaganda posters, and trying to second guess what the government may censor whenever you log onto the internet, among others? People in China who aren't 100% personally onboard with the CCP agenda are afraid to even search for certain phrases on the internet let alone post their true thoughts. The private business and entertainment sectors there are constantly walking on eggshells trying to second guess what is or is not against the law.


From this thread, my takeaway is that there are actually anti-Trotskyist people who are pro-Stalinism. Yes, I understand Trotskyism is awful, but do you really think Stalinism will be an improvement over Trotskyism? Can we not agree that both are awful?

People here who are ready to bend the CCP are just the exact flipside of liberals in non-Western who are willing to do anything to bend the knee for Globohomo.
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^^^

Exactly.

This isn't an "enemy of my enemy is my friend" situation. The future under either full globalist or full CCP hegemony is very, very, dark.


Otherwise China wouldn't be crackdown down on Christianity again.


To actually understand what Chinese culture is like and more recent developments I recommend watching Winston Sterzel's material.
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(10-22-2019 09:10 PM)Aquarius Wrote:  This is my bazillionth time repeating this in the thread but for real, the CCP will NOT tolerate serious Western nationalist movements in areas that they have control over. Anyone, or anything that they have control over and not fully subservient will be stamped out.

Do you know what the CCP considers the "Century of Humiliation" to be? Western nationalism. The CCP doesn't see Globohomo applied to Asia as Globohomo, but old fashioned white nationalism/supremacy.

You will not be left alone in a CCP-dominated world. There's no way they'll give power to Western nationalists, the very same people who they think defeated China for a century. As a westerner, you'll also be expected to toe the CCP party line just like the Chinese. In fact, the CCP would love to have an network of Sinophilic white underground Party members in key Western countries. And once you swear allegiance to the CCP, this means that you'll no longer be allowed to publicly worship any religion or root for your own ethnicity or race. Anything you do from that point on will be to advance the goals of the CCP. And as I said, the CCP and Western nationalism are NOT bedfellows due to the interpretation of history alone.

@Swords and Boards. I notice that you are Australian. You may diss Hong Kongers all you want now but once your country falls under CCP dominance, which is looking increasingly likely, you'll be longing for the good old days of 2019. At least in 2019 you can freely voice your opinions on the internet. In China, dissenting internet posts are simply scrubbed from the internet. Dissident internet influencers like Roosh will be called into questioning at a police station, where they'll demand Roosh delete his entire internet presence before letting him go. As far as I know, Roosh is doing a book tour in Globohomo America. There will be no book tour in China for their equivalent of a guy like Roosh.

@ VNVet. Have you actually been to China and dealt with the woes of YouTube videos loading at only 360p and that's after you connect to a VPN, ubiquitous propaganda posters, and trying to second guess what the government may or may not censor whenever you log onto the internet. People in China who aren't 100% personally onboard with the CCP agenda are afraid to even search for certain phrases on the internet let alone post their true thoughts. The private business and entertainment sectors there are constantly walking on eggshells trying to second guess what is or is not against the law.


From this thread, my takeaway is that there are actually anti-Trotskyist people who are pro-Stalinism. Yes, I understand Trotskyism is awful, but do you really think Stalinism will be an improvement over Trotskyism? Can we not agree that both are awful?

People here who are ready to bend the CCP are just the exact flipside of liberals in non-Western who are willing to do anything to bend the knee for Globohomo.

This reductionist false binary is pretty silly, the notion that if you are against globohomo you're pro-communist.

It shows that you don't really understand the nature of communism, and its cultural roots, on which Sword and Board tried to fill you in.


Quote:the CCP will NOT tolerate serious Western nationalist movements in areas that they have control over.

This is the other major gaping flaw in your reasoning, the notion that Chinese political hegemony will extend over the West. That's a pipe dream.

China is hell bent on dominating its region, which it views as its natural dominion. This dominion includes China proper (Tibet and Xinjiang included), the South China Sea and Taiwan, with Burma and most of SE Asia being their satellite states.

China is geographically hemmed in all around by other regional powers, which together are stronger than China: India, Japan and Russia, with smaller countries like Vietnam also checking their regional power projection.

China is never going to dominate Europe or North America. They will have a growing economic influence, but their soft power and cultural reach is dwarfed by that of the globalists.

The (((globalists))) rule the West, and their main enemies and obstacle to continued domination are western nationalists (the real ones, not the controlled opposition zio-nationalists). China was the globalists' golem, which they've used to amass more wealth, deindustrialize their countries and weaken the western middle classes.

If that golem turns against them, China becomes the enemy of our enemies. You're starting to see that dynamic with pro-Christian nationalist Russia emerging as the new boogyman, with Russia becoming China's ally.

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(10-22-2019 10:11 PM)911 Wrote:  
(10-22-2019 09:10 PM)Aquarius Wrote:  This is my bazillionth time repeating this in the thread but for real, the CCP will NOT tolerate serious Western nationalist movements in areas that they have control over. Anyone, or anything that they have control over and not fully subservient will be stamped out.

Do you know what the CCP considers the "Century of Humiliation" to be? Western nationalism. The CCP doesn't see Globohomo applied to Asia as Globohomo, but old fashioned white nationalism/supremacy.

You will not be left alone in a CCP-dominated world. There's no way they'll give power to Western nationalists, the very same people who they think defeated China for a century. As a westerner, you'll also be expected to toe the CCP party line just like the Chinese. In fact, the CCP would love to have an network of Sinophilic white underground Party members in key Western countries. And once you swear allegiance to the CCP, this means that you'll no longer be allowed to publicly worship any religion or root for your own ethnicity or race. Anything you do from that point on will be to advance the goals of the CCP. And as I said, the CCP and Western nationalism are NOT bedfellows due to the interpretation of history alone.

@Swords and Boards. I notice that you are Australian. You may diss Hong Kongers all you want now but once your country falls under CCP dominance, which is looking increasingly likely, you'll be longing for the good old days of 2019. At least in 2019 you can freely voice your opinions on the internet. In China, dissenting internet posts are simply scrubbed from the internet. Dissident internet influencers like Roosh will be called into questioning at a police station, where they'll demand Roosh delete his entire internet presence before letting him go. As far as I know, Roosh is doing a book tour in Globohomo America. There will be no book tour in China for their equivalent of a guy like Roosh.

@ VNVet. Have you actually been to China and dealt with the woes of YouTube videos loading at only 360p and that's after you connect to a VPN, ubiquitous propaganda posters, and trying to second guess what the government may or may not censor whenever you log onto the internet. People in China who aren't 100% personally onboard with the CCP agenda are afraid to even search for certain phrases on the internet let alone post their true thoughts. The private business and entertainment sectors there are constantly walking on eggshells trying to second guess what is or is not against the law.


From this thread, my takeaway is that there are actually anti-Trotskyist people who are pro-Stalinism. Yes, I understand Trotskyism is awful, but do you really think Stalinism will be an improvement over Trotskyism? Can we not agree that both are awful?

People here who are ready to bend the CCP are just the exact flipside of liberals in non-Western who are willing to do anything to bend the knee for Globohomo.

This reductionist false binary is pretty silly, the notion that if you are against globohomo you're pro-communist.

It shows that you don't really understand the nature of communism, and its cultural roots, on which Sword and Board tried to fill you in.


Quote:the CCP will NOT tolerate serious Western nationalist movements in areas that they have control over.

This is the other major gaping flaw in your reasoning, the notion that Chinese political hegemony will extend over the West. That's a pipe dream.

China is hell bent on dominating its region, which it views as its natural dominion. This dominion includes China proper (Tibet and Xinjiang included), the South China Sea and Taiwan, with Burma and most of SE Asia being their satellite states.

China is geographically hemmed in all around by other regional powers, which together are stronger than China: India, Japan and Russia, with smaller countries like Vietnam also checking their regional power projection.

China is never going to dominate Europe or North America. They will have a growing economic influence, but their soft power and cultural reach is dwarfed by that of the globalists.

The (((globalists))) rule the West, and their main enemies and obstacle to continued domination are western nationalists (the real ones, not the controlled opposition zio-nationalists). China was the globalists' golem, which they've used to amass more wealth, deindustrialize their countries and weaken the western middle classes.

If that golem turns against them, China becomes the enemy of our enemies. You're starting to see that dynamic with pro-Christian nationalist Russia emerging as the new boogyman, with Russia becoming China's ally.

I'm not saying whether the CCP is able to dominate over the West or not. I'm saying that if say, a Western country or two, falls under its suzerainty through economic servitude or debt traps, the CCP will not tolerate the nationalism of the indigenous people of the said country. Only people with weak attachments to their own blood and soil will be willing to swear allegiance to a foreign power. This applies to those non-Westerners who are begging for Globohomo to help them too.

The CCP is all about advancing its own interests and doesn't care about the West. As I said, the CCP is more than happy in cheering on the (((globalists))) to dismantle the West internally. In fact, that saves them a lot of work. They're not gonna help you reclaim France or Canada. The Ministry of Foreign Affairs is even starting to use SJW language to counteract the West. There's 2 arms of Globohomo, the domestic edition and the "international" edition. Being opposed to Globohomo geopolitics doesn't mean that they find Globohomo tactics applied internally on Western populations advantageous to their own interests.

And on Russia, they seem to be aligning with it because

1. Russia is an important source of natural resources and military tech knowhow.
2. The more Russia is hostile to the West, the more China gains by having much more breathing room geopolitically.
3. A Russia that's (hypothetically) subservient to China will mean a true Chinese victory over Eurasia, and the ability to project power straight into the heart of Europe and the Middle East.

Of course, China will most likely never achieve this goal, but dominance over Eurasia and Africa is their ultimate goal. Otherwise, what's the need for One Belt One Road? Its serving the initial purpose of fueling their construction-driven economy right now, and in the future, the goal is to turn One Belt One Road countries into vassals.

Keep in mind the Chinese view everything in terms of the long term, and long memories too. Keep in mind China calls itself "the Middle Kingdom", and you really think the Chinese don't want to reclaim "Middle Kingdom" status and will just let the Opium War and the resultant colonialism slide?

Historically they're only interested in their backyard because the world wasn't interconnected. Traveling from China to Thailand in 1400 is way more of a hassle to travel from China to even an antipodean country like Argentina today. The CCP today will want to expand their reach as much as they can without overstretching themselves.

And on China's reach: They won't have the soft power to influence the West likely not in our lifetimes, but they can, and are starting to, use their economic power to hold Western entities like Cathay Pacific Airways (its really a British airline based in Hong Kong with a white majority management) and the NBA hostage. And Cathay Pacific didn't even support the protest, they just proclaimed to remain silent/apolitical, but this was interpreted as being pro-protests.

Also, look at the voting records of the Chinese diaspora in the West: Its mostly for the most liberal, SJW parties. They don't see you, the Western nationalist, as a friend or ally.

Even in Russia, its no surprise that by far the most Sinophobic areas are also the most nationalistic ones, and these are in the Far Eastern regions bordering China.
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Buncha dudes worrying they're going to die of diabetes while they're currently having a stroke.

If there was a pair of balls between the lot of them they would be asking what they could learn from the Chinese or what their childish freedoms have bought them.

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(10-22-2019 10:44 PM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  Buncha dudes worrying they're going to die of diabetes while they're currently having a stroke.

If there was a pair of balls between the lot of them they would be asking what they could learn from the Chinese or what their childish freedoms have bought them.

For some of our home countries, Globohomo is just a side influence at best. Its the CCP whose influence is starting to be all-encompassing and inescapable, and is unwanted by the majority of the population especially the youth.
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(10-22-2019 10:09 PM)Easy_C Wrote:  ^^^

Exactly.

This isn't an "enemy of my enemy is my friend" situation. The future under either full globalist or full CCP hegemony is very, very, dark.

Otherwise China wouldn't be crackdown down on Christianity again.

To actually understand what Chinese culture is like and more recent developments I recommend watching Winston Sterzel's material.


Winston Sterzel is a midbrow millennial pundit who has, at best, a pretty shallow understanding of geopolitics. The guy is a glorified English language teacher in China who has no idea who Halford Mackinder or Brzezinski are. This is not someone you want to derive your geopolitics and world views from.

The Chinese are smart, they have no tolerance for any kind of foreign cultural subversion, their people having been subjected to the worst and most brutal forms of cultural upheaval. The reason they crack down on Christianity is the same reason they crack down on porn. It's because in East Asia, Christianity has been weaponized as a globalist beachhead, most of it consisting of talmudist Scofield evangelism rather than the kind of virtuous true Christianity that has been preached in previous centuries by the likes of Saint Francis Xavier and his successors.

South Korea and Taiwan have been culturally colonized with those globalist forms of Evangelism, which turned those cultures into materialist, liberal cultural marxist ideologies which are very different from their traditional cultures.

BTW the worst case of Christian persecution in East Asia in recent times was the nuking of Nagasaki, which was the greatest Catholic city outside of the Philippines. That was one of the main reason that city was targeted by the Roosevelt/Truman administration, which has also killed millions of disarmed/civilian Christian Germans in concentration camps after the end of WW2.

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(10-22-2019 09:10 PM)Aquarius Wrote:  You will not be left alone in a globohomo-dominated world. There's no way they'll give power to Western nationalists, the very same people who they think defeated international Jewry for two millennia. As a westerner, you'll also be expected to toe the Zionistparty line just like the elites. In fact, the jews would love to have an network of Zionist white underground Party members in key Western countries. And once you swear allegiance to the Zionists, this means that you'll no longer be allowed to publicly worship any religion or root for your own ethnicity or race. Anything you do from that point on will be to advance the goals of the Zionists. And as I said, the Zionists and Western nationalism are NOT bedfellows due to the interpretation of history alone.

Fixed that for you. And that's what's happening in America... RIGHT NOW!

Anyway, this "CCP taking away our homosexual freedoms!!!" stuff isn't relevant and probably not going to happen. It's doom porn meant to work people up to get popular support for a color revolution, and possible land invasion, in China.

At the end of the day, Hong Kong isn't all that important to us.

Trannies molesting kids in libraries, 9 year olds cutting their penises off, Muslim rape gangs, and state enforced homosexuality are much bigger problems.
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