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(11-14-2019 11:27 AM)911 Wrote:  One, he is a hypocrite, that is someone who talks behind peoples back. You can't trash Roosh on other sites and be a poster here. At least guys like Sp5 or Mandingo (both very solid posters) had the decency to air their rants on this site.

I agree with the rest of your post, however it makes perfect sense to trash Roosh elsewhere but not here. If you talk here, you're stirring shit/drama, while elsewhere, it's potentially just fun gossip. Of course the ideal would be to talk trash without starting drama right at the source. I'm not even familiar with what happens elsewhere, I heard Suits didn't even trash Roosh?
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RE: Hong Kong protests 2019
(11-14-2019 11:27 AM)911 Wrote:  On Suits: two issues with him.

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Pretty detailed analysis & takedown of a dude you have never met.

Real easy to trash talk right after a guy has been banned and can't reply anymore.
I haven't met Suits, but dozens and dozens of guys from RVF have, and will hopefully chime in here to call out your nonsense.



(11-14-2019 11:27 AM)911 Wrote:  ...someone I wouldn't mind having a beer or two with.


So tell us 911...you've been a member of RVF for 3 and half years now.
Who have you actually met from RVF in the real world for a beer ?
Anyone ?
Anyone at all ?
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RE: Hong Kong protests 2019
(11-14-2019 12:19 PM)Caduceus Wrote:  
(11-14-2019 11:27 AM)911 Wrote:  On Suits: two issues with him.

[snip]

Pretty detailed analysis & takedown of a dude you have never met.

Real easy to trash talk right after a guy has been banned and can't reply anymore.
I haven't met Suits, but dozens and dozens of guys from RVF have, and will hopefully chime in here to call out your nonsense.

(11-14-2019 11:27 AM)911 Wrote:  ...someone I wouldn't mind having a beer or two with.

So tell us 911...you've been a member of RVF for 3 and half years now.
Who have you actually met from RVF in the real world for a beer ?
Anyone ?
Anyone at all ?

I did reach out to a handful of posters from France and eastern Canada, people whose company I would enjoy, and people I would trust enough to meet IRL.

I don't bear any ill will towards Suits, that much is clear in my so-called "takedown", read it again. I didn't even condone his banning, I've only outlined his responsibility there.

In a way he is the archetype of the pre-Logos RVF poster, the types of posters who are going to feel less at home here as the board is moving away from a hollow lifestyle, towards a more meaningful and more deeply rewarding spiritual values and perspective on life.

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(11-14-2019 01:28 PM)911 Wrote:  I did reach out to a handful of posters from France and eastern Canada, people whose company I would enjoy, and people I would trust enough to meet IRL.


Reaching out is not the same as actually meeting.
So I'm gonna take that as you having ZERO real life meetups.
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Meetups on this board are more the appendage of the game and travel sections, which I am not very interested in; guys looking for wingmen, and traveling around the world in search of transient pussey, not my scene.

95%-99% of my RVF posts are on this board. I am interested in exchanging ideas, learning about the world and trying to navigate around this deeply flawed society, providing many in this board with some (hopefully) valuable personal insights.

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RE: Hong Kong protests 2019
So, it seems that the protestors have created a sort of "fortress" at Hong Kong Polytechnic university.

They have built various walls around the exits with bricks and cement, drained the swimming pool and are using it for molotov cocktail throwing practice, have a small practice area for shooting bows and arrows, have set up a command centre with drawn up plans for defense and attack strategy, set-up a canteen with food supplies, and finally have an enormous central area with dozens of tables and tables of supplies.

The level of organisation quite impressive.


2 videos from inside the "fortress" at the university












....and a video of the university "restaurant" complete with "chefs" cooking in protestor uniforms. Laugh
It works on an honour trust system....cash donations left in a box.



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RE: Hong Kong protests 2019
Come on fellas. You can both be right.

I have met Suits on a number of occasions. He is a good dude. But 911 is also right.

Suits was a late bloomer and was fed up with the bullshit in Canada so he bounced to better economic and pleasurable pursuits in China. From there he proceeded to make money in a far better way than he could in Canada, while at the same time plow through insane amounts of 'average' Chinese girls. In other words, he found his niche in which to grow. Blooming late does that to a man.

But for now Suits is gone. I don't doubt he may come back one day after he finds a girl that can handle his outlandish ways. I know he has found plenty already, but again, blooming late makes a man hesitant. There are ways to reach him, but the feckin guy doesn't own a smartphone. That is Suits.

Now, back to HK.
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Imagine how these “negotiations” would go if the pissed-off populace in Hong Kong had a 2nd amendment. Now all they have are catapults and bow and arrows.

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I'm going to be a stickler here. If you're firing arrows at police with a compound bow then you're no longer designated as a protester. You can call that guy a criminal or a guerrilla combatant but the moment you take up purpose-built arms and use them in a manner likely to cause death then you are no longer a "protester".

In news today, a protester fired on police with a belt fed machine gun. His subsequent arrest sparked condemnation of China's crackdown on free speech. tard

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It's a city state that's ultimately reliant on the good will of the larger neighbor.

China could cut off HK completely from the world with some notice period and send all remaining locals to re-education camps if they really wanted to, with or without a second amendment.

It's like saying Monaco could exist without France allowing it to remain a tax haven old world showpiece.
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Black Pigeon Speaks explains why China is accusing the CIA of destroying asian masculinity.





Glenn Beck recently did an excellent video on how the deep state (with George Soros) is fomenting revolutions under the guise of "democracy" all over the world, and the Ukraine Scandal is just the latest example. I fear the same thing is happening in Hong Kong and the Chinese Communist Party sees right through this facade. Manipulating the affairs of a foreign nation as powerful as China is dangerous.



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EDIT: People keep repeating this: yes the alphabet agencies and Soros are meddling and being the lazy chancers and globalist rats they always have been BUT that does not make this a China 100% right/ Hong Kongers 100% wrong situation as some of the more self-assured (and non-HK familiar) posters assume.

At this juncture it seems the Hong Kong kids have an element of the doomed Spartans/ Replicants about them. No hope for our future, we'll die trying..
They've lost support in the past.. it could still happen again.

People do forget that the Cantonese have been fighting wars with those north of them for Millenia. Just over a hundred years ago their Northern Dynastic Neighbours from the rest of China in one year executed One Million of them who had pointlessly risen up in Guangdong province as part of a more widespread rebellion. Live burial was a common execution method.

In some ways.. this is not necessarily a new fight.

The burning could have easily been faked (cant get footage) or it could be real.. like I said a few pages back.. in 1967 they put the women and children at the front and trained them to duck when they came face to face with the police, boom.. acid in the face of those police officers.
I think that the HKers are well capable of embracing a psychopathic streak (as one poster commented) when the need or will arises.

This could be a doomed rebellion, however China certainly CANT starve and enslave HK at this point in time, they have to be cautious.
As Aquarius noted , this may rather be the end of HK as a global hub after a 'slow poison' death.

@Leonard I agree that compound bows etc. are not the mark of peaceful democracy protests.

The fortified university reminds me of the Bangkok university students who staged a sit-in/siege in the 70s that ended when marshalled pro Government thugs stormed it and chopped up and mutilated the boys and gang raped and killed the girls. If I recall, during the 90s the Dead Kennedys featured a picture of a student in mid-execution on the album cover of "Holiday in Cambodia". Not that anyone needs to look that particular picture up.

@911 I have alot of time for your posts in general but not on this thread. Being anti western-decadence doesn't equal wholehearted embrace of the mainland Communist party's position in my book. Thats just knee jerk being oppositional.

As for Suits.. 911.. I've spoken with the man face to face which is more than what you have achieved with ANY forum member. I didn't ascertain anything that gave me reason to believe your imagined verdict on him. And that verdict is ironic given your reluctance to connect with other members (who , in turn, would be able to see you 'warts and all' ) yourself.

As I say, I like your stuff in general, for whatever thats worth, but combining a dogged ignore-ance of the local context for these riots, or even the need for yourself to do a bit of research, with the dogmatic insistence that you must be acknowledged as correct does not go far in persuading others.

@Aquarius thanks for chipping in your knowledge and opinions.
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Hong Kong’s justice minister (secretary for justice) Teresa Cheng was in London, UK last night, and was mobbed by a group of screaming people sympathetic to the Hong Kong Kong protestors. She tripped, (or was pushed) and fell onto the street. It's kind of hard to tell what exactly made her fall looking at the video. She got up again and kept walking, with the mob still following and heckling her.



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(11-15-2019 09:24 AM)Bienvenuto Wrote:  EDIT: People keep repeating this: yes the alphabet agencies and Soros are meddling and being the lazy chancers and globalist rats they always have been BUT that does not make this a China 100% right/ Hong Kongers 100% wrong situation as some of the more self-assured (and non-HK familiar) posters assume.

At this juncture it seems the Hong Kong kids have an element of the doomed Spartans/ Replicants about them. No hope for our future, we'll die trying..
They've lost support in the past.. it could still happen again.

People do forget that the Cantonese have been fighting wars with those north of them for Millenia. Just over a hundred years ago their Northern Dynastic Neighbours from the rest of China in one year executed One Million of them who had pointlessly risen up in Guangdong province as part of a more widespread rebellion. Live burial was a common execution method.

In some ways.. this is not necessarily a new fight.

The burning could have easily been faked (cant get footage) or it could be real.. like I said a few pages back.. in 1967 they put the women and children at the front and trained them to duck when they came face to face with the police, boom.. acid in the face of those police officers.
I think that the HKers are well capable of embracing a psychopathic streak (as one poster commented) when the need or will arises.

This could be a doomed rebellion, however China certainly CANT starve and enslave HK at this point in time, they have to be cautious.
As Aquarius noted , this may rather be the end of HK as a global hub after a 'slow poison' death.

@Leonard I agree that compound bows etc. are not the mark of peaceful democracy protests.

The fortified university reminds me of the Bangkok university students who staged a sit-in/siege in the 70s that ended when marshalled pro Government thugs stormed it and chopped up and mutilated the boys and gang raped and killed the girls. If I recall, during the 90s the Dead Kennedys featured a picture of a student in mid-execution on the album cover of "Holiday in Cambodia". Not that anyone needs to look that particular picture up.

@911 I have alot of time for your posts in general but not on this thread. Being anti western-decadence doesn't equal wholehearted embrace of the mainland Communist party's position in my book. Thats just knee jerk being oppositional.

As for Suits.. 911.. I've spoken with the man face to face which is more than what you have achieved with ANY forum member. I didn't ascertain anything that gave me reason to believe your imagined verdict on him. And that verdict is ironic given your reluctance to connect with other members (who , in turn, would be able to see you 'warts and all' ) yourself.

As I say, I like your stuff in general, for whatever thats worth, but combining a dogged ignore-ance of the local context for these riots, or even the need for yourself to do a bit of research, with the dogmatic insistence that you must be acknowledged as correct does not go far in persuading others.

@Aquarius thanks for chipping in your knowledge and opinions.

My "verdict" on Suits is not "imagined"; he himself has stated that he was a virgin well into his 20s, who, as a result, has become a serial notch collector. This is the archetype of what I call the Imelda Syndrome. You having had a beer with him, or me not having met up yet in my remote corner with other RVFers doesn't change this.

IMO that lifestyle is degenerate and a dead end, literally and figuratively. I was not very comfortable with that ethos, which prevailed on this forum until recently, when many posters and Roosh himself starting seeing the light, and coming to realize the inherent superiority of traditional Christian values over the Crowleyan hedonism which has dominated western culture since the 1970s.


On the HK events, I do have a different, deeper historical and cultural perspective. I have for instance close relatives who were in the Mai'68 French student riots, a psyop funded by the CIA to destabilize the greatest president we've ever had, at a time when France was the 3rd greatest economic and political power in the world. Nearly everything that is wrong in France and most parts of the West is a direct consequence of this subversive political action and cultural engineering.

I see a whole lot of similarities between Mai68 and the HK student riots. If you want to go further back, you had the same features, those barricades, the type of organization and "spirit" in the 1948 and 1871 Paris Commune. More locally, similar student riots were used to destabilize Park's nationalist government in South Korea in the 1970s, shortly after he nationalized his monetary system and had the audacity of creating a national debt-free currency.

I'm not saying that the riots are 100% psyop, but it would be even more naive to believe that they're 100% organic. The sponsors are working along with the grain here, as they did in the recent Arab Spring, exploiting and amplifying local grievances.

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(11-15-2019 02:47 PM)911 Wrote:  I'm not saying that the riots are 100% psyop, but it would be even more naive to believe that they're 100% organic. The sponsors are working along with the grain here, as they did in the recent Arab Spring, exploiting and amplifying local grievances.

When people say CIA they're either ignorant, scared of naming globalists or are globalists / shills.

There are a lot of them on youtube that spread 80% truth or so with 10-20% dysinfo and misguidance to deflect, demotivate etc. mixed in.






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Right, Mao's Little Red Book was written by his political handlers Sidney Rittenberg and Sidney Shapiro.

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China was firmly under the globalists orbit until recently, when they are starting to become nationalistic, and are allying with Russia, which has been on a similar course.

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Protestors have occupied at least 3 or 4 different university campuses across the city. Yesterday and today the police has kept quiet and the protestors have fortified their positions.

Here is some amazing drone footage taken at various universities across the city showing the full extent of their defenses.
Their barricades are very extensive.




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(11-15-2019 03:44 PM)911 Wrote:  Right, Mao's Little Red Book was written by his political handlers Sidney Rittenberg and Sidney Shapiro.

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China was firmly under the globalists orbit until recently, when they are starting to become nationalistic, and are allying with Russia, which has been on a similar course.

^. >Bangkok University 'riots' / CIA sponsored massacre< incoming? I hope not..

@911 I agree with alot of the angles you and others take on these things, I just don't agree that it equates to the PRC being in the right on everything here.

Also the alliance with Russia is entirely superficial and short term-ist.
Those two, Russia and China, do not like or trust each other..

But even while the Saudis were flooding Syria with weapons and trafficked jihadis the Russians were gritting their teeth and working with them on OPEC policy on a daily basis.

As far as the red books authors go, thats a revealing insight into the genesis and sponsors of these movements..

a) it has already been mentioned several times on this thread.

although b) ^lets overlook that and focus in:

what about later Maoist dialectics? were Shapiro and Rittenberg writing them for him as well?
Was Mao the author? Was he just working off basic ideas given to him in the Red Book? What about the key aphorism in later years? And how did the people around him interpret it?

Theres a school of thought that Mao was going a little bit mental in his latter years.. but was his writing still classic marxist dialectics or loony ravings of a madman?
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(11-14-2019 01:04 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  Then why do you keep asking if you know what happened?

Knowing what did not happen for certain instances does not constitute knowing what actually transpired. I would figure you at least would understand that.
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(11-14-2019 04:01 PM)Caduceus Wrote:  So, it seems that the protestors have created a sort of "fortress" at Hong Kong Polytechnic university.

They have built various walls around the exits with bricks and cement, drained the swimming pool and are using it for molotov cocktail throwing practice, have a small practice area for shooting bows and arrows, have set up a command centre with drawn up plans for defense and attack strategy, set-up a canteen with food supplies, and finally have an enormous central area with dozens of tables and tables of supplies.

The level of organisation quite impressive.

Reminds me of that 80s movie, "Taps" where real estate developers buy the land of a military training academy to build condos. Only the students don't want to give it up and hole up in the academy to fight back against the National Guard who is called in to take them out.



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The students inside Hong Kong Polytechnic university are trapped unless they get reinforcements or a truce is agreed to let them out.

Clashes have broken out in other parts of the city to try and distract the police storming the university building.
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As pointed by many in the Right, the Hong Kong protests are much ado about nothing. Supporting the protesters is useless because they are supported by our very own Deep State. Best to let China handle this one folks!
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