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RE: Hong Kong protests 2019
They will probably apply a softer version of Macron's crowd control measures, and start slapping the top organizers with heavy fines and movement restrictions.

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Interesting video from CGTN (China Global Television Network) showing things from mainland China's point of view.
It's just under 9 minutes long and in English.

According to them the contested extradition treaty to bring criminals from Hong Kong to mainland China (which the protestors want removed), is needed (mainly) to deal with with foreign (western) intelligence agencies, spies and other alphabet agencies who use Hong Kong as a base of operations, both against China and the greater asian area.

They also accuse some western NGOs/charities as being cover for intelligence agencies, spies and agitators who secretly fund protest movements (and give logistical guidance and assitance) in order to formet unrest on streets. (Interestingly Putin in Russia has also made this accusation numerous times when he shut down and kicked out various of these NGOs in years past.) The video also shows representatives of the NGOs and consulate officials meeting with protest leaders and political opposition leaders.

I do not know how much of this is true...but it's interesting to hear an alternate point of view of this whole story.



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(08-26-2019 04:49 PM)Caduceus Wrote:  According to them the contested extradition treaty to bring criminals from Hong Kong to mainland China (which the protestors want removed), is needed (mainly) to deal with with foreign (western) intelligence agencies, spies and other alphabet agencies who use Hong Kong as a base of operations, both against China and the greater asian area.

^I think this argument is horseshit on their part.

If someones a Western intelligence asset they will 'extradite' them anyway. In the middle of the night most probably.

Those booksellers that the PRC 'disappeared' didn't get to go through any public legal extradition fight.
The 100's of CIA assets that the PRC got to execute thanks to Killary's server weren't involved in any legal wrangles.

As others have said there will doubtless be a lot of intelligence activity/formenting going on behind the scenes right now, although given the 1.7 million marching in the rain - who sowed the ideas (ironically and unintentionally probably the parents of these outraged HK Youth) becomes a moot point.

The PRC agreed to one country/two systems in 1997 and now are trying to do something different. This is nothing new for them. They signed an agreement on Intellectual Property with Obama in the Rose Garden, posed for photos and immediately went home and immediately did the exact opposite.

They view all agreements and treaties as little pitchforks left in front of a convoy of their army tanks.
They can't get past the fact that the HK Chinese don't like them and don't trust them. At all.
The Western agencies can't get past the fact that HK belongs to China.
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Agreed. Hong Kong watched in horror as things went to hell in China, and almost everyone was affected in some way. If you had a father who talked openly of the death and destruction of China, would you take a chance with them deciding that they have had enough of your freedom only whisk you away into a Chinese gulag? No chance.

There are millions of people already suffering in gulags in China, how hard would it be to start tossing a bunch of young Hong Kong guys into them.

Nice excuse, China. There is some truth to it, for sure. But its weak, and total bullshit.
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This interview with Gen. Robert Spalding was fascinating! Must watch if you want to understand what's going on in the grand scope of things. Many of the questions answered in this video include the following:

Just how will the Hong Kong protests likely play out?

How are the Chinese Communist Party’s economic and political systems fundamentally at odds with those of the West, and why is it so intent on controlling Hong Kong?

What is the Chinese regime’s strategy in the US-China trade war?

And how would a decoupling of the US and Chinese economies impact America and the world?







If you want to learn more about the mindset of the CCP and why they believe the USA is attempting to DESTORY and OVERTHROW there government party rule through these Hong Kong protest read Document 9 which is a smuggled document from the CCP that was translated and talks about how democratic ideas like free speech and freedom of religion were specifically designed to attack the CCP's rule.
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The "excuse" listed in Caduceus' post is entirely legitimate, but that's part only part of the problem. As noted before, the poor schmucks of HK are in a no-man's-land between the globohomo regime and the PRC. Of course the globohomo elite are going to use HK as a staging ground to globohomosexualise the Chinese and of course the Party are going to attempt to stop them.

The poor fools in the middle fighting for "democracy and freedom" are like the Polish during WW2. Hostage to larger, more powerful forces who aren't at all interested in what the natives want but who are willing to exploit them none-the-less.

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(08-26-2019 04:49 PM)Caduceus Wrote:  I do not know how much of this is true...but it's interesting to hear an alternate point of view of this whole story.

So you're going to believe a bunch of power hungry murderers who indulge in the biggest organ harvest operation known to man alongside the most executions of any country?

On top of them being in control of peoples lives with the social credit system and a myriad of other things.

Yes very interesting - if you believe lunatics.
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(08-28-2019 07:02 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  The "excuse" listed in Caduceus' post is entirely legitimate, but that's part only part of the problem. As noted before, the poor schmucks of HK are in a no-man's-land between the globohomo regime and the PRC. Of course the globohomo elite are going to use HK as a staging ground to globohomosexualise the Chinese and of course the Party are going to attempt to stop them.

The poor fools in the middle fighting for "democracy and freedom" are like the Polish during WW2. Hostage to larger, more powerful forces who aren't at all interested in what the natives want but who are willing to exploit them none-the-less.

Yes but - Poland would have suffered much less had the Allies made it there in time.

Likewise HK will suffer much less if the globohomos win here too, and they know that.

Either side is doomed, but the way of doom - one side in utter brutal slavery, the other in hedonistic degeneration - is far more palatable from the globohomos.

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(08-28-2019 10:13 AM)Samseau Wrote:  
(08-28-2019 07:02 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  The "excuse" listed in Caduceus' post is entirely legitimate, but that's part only part of the problem. As noted before, the poor schmucks of HK are in a no-man's-land between the globohomo regime and the PRC. Of course the globohomo elite are going to use HK as a staging ground to globohomosexualise the Chinese and of course the Party are going to attempt to stop them.

The poor fools in the middle fighting for "democracy and freedom" are like the Polish during WW2. Hostage to larger, more powerful forces who aren't at all interested in what the natives want but who are willing to exploit them none-the-less.

Yes but - Poland would have suffered much less had the Allies made it there in time.

Likewise HK will suffer much less if the globohomos win here too, and they know that.

Either side is doomed, but the way of doom - one side in utter brutal slavery, the other in hedonistic degeneration - is far more palatable from the globohomos.

I know people who grew up in China, their parents still live in China, and I don't think this is true.

I'm not going to say China is great or wonderful, but if you had a choice between China and the USA and your goal is to have children in a healthy environment, China is the better option. If your goal is to be degenerate and chase pleasure, then the USA is your better option, at least for now while they need us distracted.

China is rough, harsh, controlling. But lets do a simply trajectory comparison between my life experiences in the USA and the people I know that grew up in China...

1985
USA: Land of milk and honey
China: Meat more than once a week is unexpected.

1995:
USA: A little more degenerate but we can right the ship
China: Starting to grow, food is more plentiful

2005:
USA: Ass crack tattoos, slut culture starts, MTV is degenerate programming.
China: Growing economy, booming middle class, degeneracy under control

2015:
USA: Men are scum, marriage is outdated, degeneracy overload
China: Catching up the USA economically, militarily, and middle class lives much more comfortable

2019:
USA: police set up snipers on rooftops to protect drag queens that read to 5 year old children in public libraries.

Wait, what? So where are we in 10 years then?
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(08-28-2019 10:13 AM)Samseau Wrote:  ...
Either side is doomed, but the way of doom - one side in utter brutal slavery, the other in hedonistic degeneration - is far more palatable from the globohomos.

True, but in the long-term unless you're betting on perpetual wins for the globohomo regime then the smart moves are either to leave or knuckle under and accept eventual and inevitable PRC rule.

The globohomo elite are not going to save the protesters when they're eventually rounded up. The ones that eventually lose least badly in all this will be the quietly pro-China stay-at-home types who don't post anything provocative on social media or involve themselves at all for that matter. There's no more "adopting a new identity and blending back into the masses" anymore. That barely worked since the 40's anywhere but the third world and now it's utterly impossible. As much as I appreciate their sentiments, on an individual level the HK protesters are only signing their own death-warrants. The generational memory of the 30-60 million liquidated under Mao died out to the extent that few of these protesters really understand what the stakes are. Nobody remembers that we're all only a hop-skip-and-a-jump from the next 10 year period where corpses are stacked in the street like garbage to be disposed of.

It's one thing to play rebel in the American heartland. This? It's like organizing a rebellion on Manhattan Island.

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Action movie star and Hong Kong native Jackie Chan sides with Beijing and the mainland.

He is arguably the most famous living celebrity born and raised in Hong Kong from parents who fled the communist mainland in the 1950s...2nd only to martial arts legend Bruce Lee.








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(08-28-2019 10:59 AM)It_is_my_time Wrote:  
(08-28-2019 10:13 AM)Samseau Wrote:  
(08-28-2019 07:02 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  The "excuse" listed in Caduceus' post is entirely legitimate, but that's part only part of the problem. As noted before, the poor schmucks of HK are in a no-man's-land between the globohomo regime and the PRC. Of course the globohomo elite are going to use HK as a staging ground to globohomosexualise the Chinese and of course the Party are going to attempt to stop them.

The poor fools in the middle fighting for "democracy and freedom" are like the Polish during WW2. Hostage to larger, more powerful forces who aren't at all interested in what the natives want but who are willing to exploit them none-the-less.

Yes but - Poland would have suffered much less had the Allies made it there in time.

Likewise HK will suffer much less if the globohomos win here too, and they know that.

Either side is doomed, but the way of doom - one side in utter brutal slavery, the other in hedonistic degeneration - is far more palatable from the globohomos.

I know people who grew up in China, their parents still live in China, and I don't think this is true.

I'm not going to say China is great or wonderful, but if you had a choice between China and the USA and your goal is to have children in a healthy environment, China is the better option. If your goal is to be degenerate and chase pleasure, then the USA is your better option, at least for now while they need us distracted.

China is rough, harsh, controlling. But lets do a simply trajectory comparison between my life experiences in the USA and the people I know that grew up in China...

1985
USA: Land of milk and honey
China: Meat more than once a week is unexpected.

1995:
USA: A little more degenerate but we can right the ship
China: Starting to grow, food is more plentiful

2005:
USA: Ass crack tattoos, slut culture starts, MTV is degenerate programming.
China: Growing economy, booming middle class, degeneracy under control

2015:
USA: Men are scum, marriage is outdated, degeneracy overload
China: Catching up the USA economically, militarily, and middle class lives much more comfortable

2019:
USA: police set up snipers on rooftops to protect drag queens that read to 5 year old children in public libraries.

Wait, what? So where are we in 10 years then?

You have stated that you wish Hillary had won the 2016 election.
Now you say you think China is better than the USA

In other words...after all these years posting endlessly on RVF, at the end of the day you're just another SJW liberal and a commie?

Come on! Have a beer. Chill. Don't throw your life away!
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(08-28-2019 05:21 PM)MrLemon Wrote:  
(08-28-2019 10:59 AM)It_is_my_time Wrote:  
(08-28-2019 10:13 AM)Samseau Wrote:  
(08-28-2019 07:02 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  The "excuse" listed in Caduceus' post is entirely legitimate, but that's part only part of the problem. As noted before, the poor schmucks of HK are in a no-man's-land between the globohomo regime and the PRC. Of course the globohomo elite are going to use HK as a staging ground to globohomosexualise the Chinese and of course the Party are going to attempt to stop them.

The poor fools in the middle fighting for "democracy and freedom" are like the Polish during WW2. Hostage to larger, more powerful forces who aren't at all interested in what the natives want but who are willing to exploit them none-the-less.

Yes but - Poland would have suffered much less had the Allies made it there in time.

Likewise HK will suffer much less if the globohomos win here too, and they know that.

Either side is doomed, but the way of doom - one side in utter brutal slavery, the other in hedonistic degeneration - is far more palatable from the globohomos.

I know people who grew up in China, their parents still live in China, and I don't think this is true.

I'm not going to say China is great or wonderful, but if you had a choice between China and the USA and your goal is to have children in a healthy environment, China is the better option. If your goal is to be degenerate and chase pleasure, then the USA is your better option, at least for now while they need us distracted.

China is rough, harsh, controlling. But lets do a simply trajectory comparison between my life experiences in the USA and the people I know that grew up in China...

1985
USA: Land of milk and honey
China: Meat more than once a week is unexpected.

1995:
USA: A little more degenerate but we can right the ship
China: Starting to grow, food is more plentiful

2005:
USA: Ass crack tattoos, slut culture starts, MTV is degenerate programming.
China: Growing economy, booming middle class, degeneracy under control

2015:
USA: Men are scum, marriage is outdated, degeneracy overload
China: Catching up the USA economically, militarily, and middle class lives much more comfortable

2019:
USA: police set up snipers on rooftops to protect drag queens that read to 5 year old children in public libraries.

Wait, what? So where are we in 10 years then?

You have stated that you wish Hillary had won the 2016 election.
Now you say you think China is better than the USA

In other words...after all these years posting endlessly on RVF, at the end of the day you're just another SJW liberal and a commie?

Come on! Have a beer. Chill. Don't throw your life away!

I didn't say China is better than the USA, though the trajectory is better, at least IMO. I said if you want to have a family and a conservative life, China is probably a better place than the USA and will only get better as the USA gets worse in these regards.

If you want to chase pleasure, chase loose women, drink, do drugs, eat junk food, watch sports, etc. then the USA is way better. These things just don't interest me.

But I personally would never go to China, I am not Han, I don't speak a word of Mandarin, and there would be nothing there for me.

But this thread isn't about me, I just gave my knowledge on China due to my connections to Chinese citizens living in the USA and getting a lot of time to talk to them and get to know them. They are extremely nice and intelligent people, at least the Chinese I know are, and I get a lot of information talking to them about life in China. Many either plan to return or at least are starting to plan to return as they don't see a bright future for their kids in the USA. Granted, they have very high expectations for their children, my goodness at how hard they push them to study.
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Jackie Chan was approached directly by the PRC during the handover to ensure he wouldn't spark panic or rebellion by referring to the event in a negative manner. It's not difficult to believe he's been saddled with a team of handlers and enough carrot/stick to do whatever the Party tells him. Some of his recent work is flat out PRC social programming.

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(08-29-2019 03:08 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  Jackie Chan was approached directly by the PRC during the handover to ensure he wouldn't spark panic or rebellion by referring to the event in a negative manner. It's not difficult to believe he's been saddled with a team of handlers and enough carrot/stick to do whatever the Party tells him. Some of his recent work is flat out PRC social programming.


When I was younger I was a huge Jackie fan, very disappointing to grow up and see your childhood hero just being a puppet on a string now that I'm more aware of events of the world.
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This morning before sunrise, still in the dark of night, thousands of soldiers from the mainland people's liberation army and several armoured vehicles, and a navy ship crossed border from the mainland for a "routine troop rotation" of their garrison in Hong Kong. This garrison has existed since the handover in 1997 and already has something like 5000 mainland PLA troops in normal times.

China did not specify if the same number of troops which entered also left, or if there has now been a drastic increase in troops (and armoured vehicles) in Hong Kong overall.

Video of mainland troops entering Hong Kong by land and sea from Chinese state media channel CCTV:






Plus a collection of some amateur footage from around the city (unverified)



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(08-28-2019 05:56 PM)It_is_my_time Wrote:  I didn't say China is better than the USA, though the trajectory is better, at least IMO. I said if you want to have a family and a conservative life, China is probably a better place than the USA and will only get better as the USA gets worse in these regards.

If you want to chase pleasure, chase loose women, drink, do drugs, eat junk food, watch sports, etc. then the USA is way better. These things just don't interest me.

But I personally would never go to China, I am not Han, I don't speak a word of Mandarin, and there would be nothing there for me.

But this thread isn't about me, I just gave my knowledge on China due to my connections to Chinese citizens living in the USA and getting a lot of time to talk to them and get to know them. They are extremely nice and intelligent people, at least the Chinese I know are, and I get a lot of information talking to them about life in China. Many either plan to return or at least are starting to plan to return as they don't see a bright future for their kids in the USA. Granted, they have very high expectations for their children, my goodness at how hard they push them to study.

If you compare cities in China with that of the USA you are going to find the very same things. Weed cafes in Chengdu, 8 balls of blow the size of a cue ball in QZ. Bored countryside migrant girls coming over for a glass of milk and rough sex at 1pm in the afternoon. Its all there in China, too. They are stuck figuring shit out on their own since anyone born after 1995 has stars in their eyes and money on their brain. Cities in China are sucking more teenagers up than any other time in human history. And if you think their plow pushing dad is coming with them, then you are sorely mistaken. Farmer dad stays put and farms. Plain little Helen moves to GZ and goes to a STEM school where she ROTE learns shit for 5 years and then is released into the workforce where she moves papers from one LED distributor to another. Loneliness, boredom, envy.... all the things that dangle in front of girls in the big cities, no different then the Sugar Baby scene here. Only in China, its been around forever, and no one bats an eye.

In a strange way, Hong Kong is more conservative and a better place to raise a family. In most of mainland Chinese cities there is only a tiny little fraction of 1% that any of us would deem livable. Those stuck out in the endless concrete buildings are likely pretty traditional and conservative, taking advantage in being able to finally get protein. But its still China. Even a few years ago you could get arrested by bringing in more baby formula than you were allowed. People lined up day and night for a chance to buy good quality dry milk. Its crazy to think that the average Chinese person will not be doing whatever they can to get a better life for their kids, and right now it is to get them to the west. If they go back to China, fine. But for now, its get the hell out if you have the means.
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(08-29-2019 02:28 PM)Laner Wrote:  
(08-28-2019 05:56 PM)It_is_my_time Wrote:  I didn't say China is better than the USA, though the trajectory is better, at least IMO. I said if you want to have a family and a conservative life, China is probably a better place than the USA and will only get better as the USA gets worse in these regards.

If you want to chase pleasure, chase loose women, drink, do drugs, eat junk food, watch sports, etc. then the USA is way better. These things just don't interest me.

But I personally would never go to China, I am not Han, I don't speak a word of Mandarin, and there would be nothing there for me.

But this thread isn't about me, I just gave my knowledge on China due to my connections to Chinese citizens living in the USA and getting a lot of time to talk to them and get to know them. They are extremely nice and intelligent people, at least the Chinese I know are, and I get a lot of information talking to them about life in China. Many either plan to return or at least are starting to plan to return as they don't see a bright future for their kids in the USA. Granted, they have very high expectations for their children, my goodness at how hard they push them to study.

If you compare cities in China with that of the USA you are going to find the very same things. Weed cafes in Chengdu, 8 balls of blow the size of a cue ball in QZ. Bored countryside migrant girls coming over for a glass of milk and rough sex at 1pm in the afternoon. Its all there in China, too. They are stuck figuring shit out on their own since anyone born after 1995 has stars in their eyes and money on their brain. Cities in China are sucking more teenagers up than any other time in human history. And if you think their plow pushing dad is coming with them, then you are sorely mistaken. Farmer dad stays put and farms. Plain little Helen moves to GZ and goes to a STEM school where she ROTE learns shit for 5 years and then is released into the workforce where she moves papers from one LED distributor to another. Loneliness, boredom, envy.... all the things that dangle in front of girls in the big cities, no different then the Sugar Baby scene here. Only in China, its been around forever, and no one bats an eye.

In a strange way, Hong Kong is more conservative and a better place to raise a family. In most of mainland Chinese cities there is only a tiny little fraction of 1% that any of us would deem livable. Those stuck out in the endless concrete buildings are likely pretty traditional and conservative, taking advantage in being able to finally get protein. But its still China. Even a few years ago you could get arrested by bringing in more baby formula than you were allowed. People lined up day and night for a chance to buy good quality dry milk. Its crazy to think that the average Chinese person will not be doing whatever they can to get a better life for their kids, and right now it is to get them to the west. If they go back to China, fine. But for now, its get the hell out if you have the means.

It is great to hear someone on the ground or has been on the ground in China report back. I have never been to China and I have no plans to go there. From what I can gather it is like the USA was about 15 years ago with the degeneracy but without the abundance of wealth we had at the time. I have seen their Chinese TV shows and it looks a lot like the stuff we have here except the gender roles are still more pronounced. I am sure the blurring of gender roles and soon women beating up 5 men at once is coming to a TV in China very soon.

It is things like this that make me believe the powers that run our country already run China and just use them as a "bad guy" to distract the right wing political fans.

I guess the Chinese I did meet were able to get out so they were likely very high up in the social structure in China and they are not around the poverty and despair that still plague most of the country.

Thank you for the great information.
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RE: Hong Kong protests 2019
Images of chinese army training (in Shenzhen stadium ?) against mock protesterors.
They got the actors who are playing the part of the protestors to wear yellow hats and hold umbrellas just like they do in Hong Kong.

I don't know when these images were taken, but it must be fairly recently.



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RE: Hong Kong protests 2019
https://www.insider.com/hong-kong-police...ons-2019-8

Hong Kong police are spraying protesters with blue-dye water cannons to mark them for arrest later
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RE: Hong Kong protests 2019
Looks like there was a lot of chaos all day today, in different parts of northern Hong Kong island.

Earlier in the day, protestors gathered in the "Admiralty" area of hong kong (despite a ban) and there were street clashes with petrol bombs and small fires were lit. Tear gas and normal (and also blue colored) water cannons were used against them.






In the evening street clashes continued in the "Wan Chai" area, and protestors lit a massive fire outside the police headquarters. Lots of black smoke.
Street clashes later continued in "Causeway Bay" with more small fires and water cannons.



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RE: Hong Kong protests 2019
Looks like there was more trouble in another part of the city this evening.
There was a long stand off between regular passengers and protestors at Prince Edward MTR metro station in the "Kowloon" area.






Police later stormed the Prince Edward MTR metro station and inside the train carriages and made various arrests.
Some brief heavy fighting inside the train carriages.



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Jackie Chan siding with the guys with guns and a means to destroy his finances? Colour me surprised. If I'm not mistaken he has been on the PRC side for some time by using his fortune to buy back Chinese relics and other things to bring back to the motherland.
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Why isn't the PRC just waiting this out? It seems like a really foolish move.

Get your passport ready!
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RE: Hong Kong protests 2019
We might see another day of chaos today.
Protestors are starting to gather at the international airport again.


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