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RE: Hong Kong protests 2019
Meanwhile at the UK consulate in Hong Kong....locals demand British passports.


09-01-2019 01:40 AM
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RE: Hong Kong protests 2019
The protests at the airport today only lasted a few hours, as they were not able to enter the main building, and riot police cleared them out later.


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Most decided to head back to the city on foot and some protestors decided to smash up, vandalize, and (and partially flood) nearby "tung chung" MTR metro station until police arrived.



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09-01-2019 11:57 AM
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RE: Hong Kong protests 2019
I find it interesting, peaceful protesting vs vandalism. At some point there will be a tipping point, and of course some one will pay, but can hong kong even get anything done with a peaceful protest?
09-02-2019 09:47 PM
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RE: Hong Kong protests 2019
Anyone know anymore context to this video? Man shouts at police and gets badly beaten and arrested
https://twitter.com/if_burn/status/11685...89729?s=21

Hong Kong Police beat and broke this teenager's neck. They refused to untie his hands for first aid after he lost consciousness for 20 minutes until a firefighter forced them to.
https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/c...teenagers/


Looks like things are continuing to escalate. Will anything come from it?
09-03-2019 03:04 PM
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RE: Hong Kong protests 2019
(09-03-2019 03:04 PM)Zenta Wrote:  Looks like things are continuing to escalate. Will anything come from it?

Yeah. More violence and the HK'ers eventual loss and submission.
09-03-2019 05:35 PM
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RE: Hong Kong protests 2019
(09-03-2019 03:04 PM)Zenta Wrote:  Looks like things are continuing to escalate. Will anything come from it?

Yeah, it's going to keep escalating until China puts down the rebellion...

Or they don't put it down, and the rebellions spread into mainland China.

Major rebellions in mainland China have always resulted in millions dead.
09-03-2019 11:15 PM
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RE: Hong Kong protests 2019
(09-03-2019 11:15 PM)VNvet Wrote:  
(09-03-2019 03:04 PM)Zenta Wrote:  Looks like things are continuing to escalate. Will anything come from it?

Yeah, it's going to keep escalating until China puts down the rebellion...

Or they don't put it down, and the rebellions spread into mainland China.

Major rebellions in mainland China have always resulted in millions dead.

It's contained to HK and about an extradition law so there are obviously powerful people concerned about being extradited.

Whether it's bankers, higher ups from China that stole and embezzled laying low in HK or powerful local families being concerned about them getting gulag'd, the US wanting to punish China for the trade war etc.

There are plenty of powerful interests behind making such protests happen.

The whole shirt protest movement in Thailand that even resulted in an airport lockdown as well was organized by thai billionaire in exile Thaksin. Without his instigation and financial backing none of this would ever have happened.

If you think this is all organic you got to be kidding me...

https://www.theatlantic.com/internationa...on/272633/
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09-03-2019 11:59 PM
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RE: Hong Kong protests 2019
Also, these Hk'ers have more guts and sack on the line than these feckless cucks over in the UK. I think they shouldn't be trying so hard to get into GB. Its a cess pool but its nothing like that shithole called China. At least not yet.
09-04-2019 05:21 AM
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RE: Hong Kong protests 2019
This "human chain" thing worries me..

Shades of "spontaneous!" Ukrainian revolutions and "spontaneous!" Pussy Hat marches.

Definitely globalists getting their hooks in.





On the other hand I agree with the analysis of "population change by taxation"... Like what happened in Tibet, Xinjiang and Inner Mongolia.

Not sure I agree with all of PJW's analysis by the way. he seems keen to uncritically embrace the celebration of what's happening and doesn't necessarily spot all the different parties involved.
09-04-2019 05:31 AM
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RE: Hong Kong protests 2019
Just in: The new extradition law has been withdrawn and the elites will probably satisfied enough that the protests disappear.
09-04-2019 09:49 AM
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(09-04-2019 09:49 AM)iThinkThereforeIam Wrote:  Just in: The new extradition law has been withdrawn and the elites will probably satisfied enough that the protests disappear.

Correction - it is not yet withdrawn. It will be proposed to be withdrawn and a vote. It will be interesting to see if the protesters keep up steam for their other 4 demands or if this does indeed do enough to satisfy the elites.
09-04-2019 01:16 PM
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(09-03-2019 11:59 PM)iThinkThereforeIam Wrote:  
(09-03-2019 11:15 PM)VNvet Wrote:  
(09-03-2019 03:04 PM)Zenta Wrote:  Looks like things are continuing to escalate. Will anything come from it?

Yeah, it's going to keep escalating until China puts down the rebellion...

Or they don't put it down, and the rebellions spread into mainland China.

Major rebellions in mainland China have always resulted in millions dead.

It's contained to HK and about an extradition law so there are obviously powerful people concerned about being extradited.

Whether it's bankers, higher ups from China that stole and embezzled laying low in HK or powerful local families being concerned about them getting gulag'd, the US wanting to punish China for the trade war etc.

There are plenty of powerful interests behind making such protests happen.

The whole shirt protest movement in Thailand that even resulted in an airport lockdown as well was organized by thai billionaire in exile Thaksin. Without his instigation and financial backing none of this would ever have happened.

If you think this is all organic you got to be kidding me...

https://www.theatlantic.com/internationa...on/272633/

It's not an organic protest. Not sure where you got that idea from my post.

This protest isn't even about the extradition law. That was tabled almost immediately after the protests began, and it has now been pulled. Rich Chinese just pay a body double to serve the prison term, so they never really cared about that anyway.

The US-Zionist political machine wants to take down, or weaken, China. Hong Kong is just an easy stepping stone into China.
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09-04-2019 04:30 PM
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Man I picked up China Daily for the first time today in 10 years, while I waited for a connecting flight. What a rag. However bad the New York Times et al have become, thank god they are still nowhere near China Daily. It was fascinating, and ugly, to read the paper after so long. I used to have friends there who edited it, and man, China has gone a long way towards total state control in the last 10 years. There's a story in there today about how noone will need a boarding pass at the new airport, due to open in a few weeks, because it'll all be done on facial recognition. Crazy place, not in a rush to go back.
09-05-2019 09:06 AM
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RE: Hong Kong protests 2019
Despite the extradition treaty bill being withdrawn, protestors still showed up on the streets this weekend.


Clashes with police and arrests in Mong Kok:







Stand off with police in Tung Chung (near the airport)




09-08-2019 03:49 AM
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Standoff at Sha Tin station.



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MTR station "central" entrance set on fire, and a few other clashes on Sunday









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These cops are incredibly tame and benevolent compared to what has been going on in the neoliberal utopia that is France.

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09-10-2019 11:33 PM
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(09-10-2019 11:33 PM)911 Wrote:  These cops are incredibly tame and benevolent compared to what has been going on in the neoliberal utopia that is France.


You already made this point on page 1 of this thread.
Stop trying to derail this thread.
09-11-2019 01:01 AM
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Three quick points for you:
1- you don't seem to understand what serious police repression looks like
2- you also don't seem to understand that in you're in no position to play hall monitor here
3- you just lost 10% of your rep points.

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Its tame for now...
09-11-2019 12:46 PM
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I've ran across this blog post a couple of days ago and found it very interesting, some of you are probably aware of the author thanks to his Biological Leninism essays which were shared on this forum.

Hong Kong and the Perils of Nativism

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So what’s going on in Hong Kong? A massive riot sponsored and organized by the United States Government, that’s what’s happening. What we call a “color revolution”. Funds by USG’s National Endowment for Democracy have been revealed, US diplomatic staff have been found organizing the rioters, and the whole mass of Western journalists (i.e. half the Cathedral) have been pushing the most egregious propaganda for weeks. There’s nothing special, nothing unique about this. Color revolutions aren’t new. This isn’t the first one, and won’t be the last one. The day Germany grows a pair and starts to push back against US meddling in European politics, rest assured that Berlin will burn for weeks under a massive Antifa riot lionized by the US press.

That said, the US isn’t that powerful. Not that generous; the money USG is sending around isn’t enough to motivate every single rioter to get out of home. USG isn’t stupid and it only pulls the trigger in places where the powder is already plentiful and ready to burn. It needs a fifth column of people willing to burn it all, a place where people hate the status quo so much they’d rather sell their country to USG. Hong Kong is indeed such a place.

How did that happen? To put it briefly, Hong Kongers think they are a superior people to the rest of China, and to the bottom of their hearts hate being ruled by Beijing. This isn’t about Communism or muh Freedom or muh Human Rights. This is a basic, deep problem of self-perceived social status. As I’ve said again and again, 90% of human concerns are about social status. Hong Kongers think China is low-status and hate every association with it. On the flip side, Hong Kongers think that Japan is high status. Also England. Well, the Anglosphere as a whole. So they revel in associating with it. Hong Kongers will spend 2,000 dollars to get on a plane on a Friday evening to fly 5 hours to Japan and spend the weekend there eating lame high-carb food and buying cosmetics that don’t really work just to be able to go back and say they’ve been to Japan again. That’s on Hong Kong where work hours are long and leisure time very precious. But that’s just part of the culture.

Why do HK people think China is so low status? Well because for a long time, and for a critical time period in Hong Kong history, the time period where Hong Kong’s population stabilised and its culture took form, China was indeed a poor shithole of peasants who shat in the street and were ruled by a bunch of retarded communists. Societies are just an aggregation of people, and people are dumb and stubborn. Memories taken as a child get fixed as culture, and are almost impossible to update after adulthood. Hong Kong collectively grew up being somewhat understandably disgusted by China’s backwardness. That all that is 40 years in the past and Chinese living standards in most cities are by now higher than in Hong Kong just doesn’t register to them. They just won’t admit it, the same way old men never admit their experiences just aren’t relevant anymore. Things never change if that change results in lower status to oneself. That’s how human brains operate. Scale that to a whole society and it can be brutal.
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09-12-2019 04:39 AM
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^^I don't know much about the situation but I do know the CCP and the Chinese mentality has some serious issues and that does sound like a typical rationalisation on the Chinese side as to why HK is really Chinese etc. I don't believe China is necessarily equal to or superior than HK. And my low information take is that HK protesters are justified and if China takes over it sucks for them.

If it's true that the HK protesters are immoral and the Tianamen Square thing is "trumped charges" I'll wait and see and change my mind.
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Looking into the Tianamen square protests, I had no idea that was a huge hoax, where the Western MSM claimed “thousands” died when in reality it was something in the low hundreds.

I have no idea who to believe anymore.
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