Post: #26

(08-17-2019 12:24 PM)Zenta Wrote:  

(08-17-2019 09:59 AM)ArloDash Wrote:  

(08-16-2019 03:51 PM)Zenta Wrote:  

(08-16-2019 11:47 AM)ArloDash Wrote:  

(08-16-2019 07:35 AM)iThinkThereforeIam Wrote:  [quote='Dilated' pid='2010879' dateline='1565954190']
Building real wealth for millennials and younger is a pipe dream. You can be happy if you can afford a 30 year mortgage on a studio apartment in a big city and not losing it before it's paid off because some femnazi went #metoo on you at work.

You are wrong. Go abroad and, do any random job online that pays $50K and you'll easily save half your income away.

Unfortunately saving 25k a year is not real "wealth".

Fair.

Its sad though, saving 25k a year is pretty damn good realistically. But at that level we will never reach "rich" or "wealthy". Unfortuantely its where I'm at though and I will continue trying to save as much as possible so I can retire to somewhere in the third world by the time im 45 or 50 in the 15-20 years. Hopefully my stash of money will translate to more more riches where it goes further.

Well mate, if you have an income that's giving you 25K a year, you can scale it to 50K most likely with low EE living expenses.

This is hard, but still doable. That's still half a million dollars in about 7 years if invested in the market, too.

Post: #27

(08-16-2019 03:20 PM)Deepdiver Wrote:  I go old school wise guy on women. I explain to them upfront the Wise Guy rules of marriage for a new or prospective wife. I had clients that were contractors on the Big Dig which cost nearly $20 Billion that flowed through all of the contractors and subcontractors in Boston. One was a concrete finishing company and the other asbestos abatement. Heavily connected guys who knew who is who and what is what.

These guys keep some serious cash in a shoebox or a few boxes as a backup to funds that could be seized by Feds or Law rats with malicious lawsuits and as money accumulates in offshore LLC or IBC accounts. Many visit Vegas or Northeast casinos to keep side wagering accounts with them and to get whale/vip treatment. Best way to hide 10K is five $1K and one $5K Casino chips versus 100 $100 blue benjamins.

Many buy a house for a reliable sister or other relatives who is stable and not on drugs and hides some cash etc., in a waterproof plastic canister that can not be detected deep under a flower garden as digging in gardens does not arouse suspicion.

You can not whack Feds but everyone else who might betray or attack you is fair game - this is cold hard Wiseguy Dread game - the wife is useful as she can not be forced to testify against her husband - John Gotti's wife was famous for saying "All I know is he provides". Period.

Taking vacations to BVI, Bermuda, Bahamas, Belize to handle your offshore LLCs or IBCs while visiting a local Casino is always a good idea. Most guys keep their working capital and collateral in the LLC and Reserves in the IBC - with a side Ride or Die IBC in the wife's name just in case of any catastrophic events.

Most important thing for her to keep in mind is to not red flag herself or you with moving large stacks of cash in and out of local Banks/Credit Unions as that will flag "cash staging" type inquiries from authorities.

Their women are ride or die women, old school wiseguy style meaning One Wife for One Life and a Wiseguy divorce is if she betrays you she knows far in advance that she will go out in a pine box. If you can not manage the women in your life how can you be given authority over men?

This knowledge reinforced with wife Dread game is its own reward plus you can then pass down wealth to help your kids learn to take over the family business.

With a wife and kids and/or long term mistress you can enjoy life but still not take it all with you.

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Holding cash during inflation of the money supply is letting the government steal from you.

Post: #28

It's a very simple concept that boils downs to the pros vs cons of talking about how much money you have when you are wealthy. The cons are quite high which include;risking frivolous lawsuits, causing a rift with friends/family due to the wealth gap, being a target for people asking for money, and being suspicious that people are friendly to you because they want your money. The pros of flaunting/or talking about your wealth are pretty subjective in that in might give you a status boost due to impressing people, who probably you don't like anyways.

Rich people problems are a reason many of the wealthiest people/families tend to congregate in the same social circles and live in the same zip codes/neighborhoods. In those environments they can be comfortable with displaying their wealth and are less likely to experience the cons mentioned above.

Also, the average person has a terrible concept of what being wealthy really is and the lifestyle that is associated with being wealthy. This was touched on in one of the Thomas Stanley books. Essentially, the millionaire lifestyle that people conjure up is for Ultra high net worth people that have 30 million plus and there are only 225k in the whole world at this level. To this small slice global population they really can spend 50k a month on lifestyle costs or own a 5 million dollar home. That type of spending is a fraction of their net worth. Where as, a millionaire with 5 million dollars, wealthy in their own right, can really only afford a 1 or 2 million dollar home and maybe 10k a month on lifestyle.

Post: #29

Remember it's not all or nothing. If everyone around you is on $10,000 p.a. and you're on $100,000, you can decide exactly what income you want people to think you have. You can tweak the amount to suit you, and give the appropriate impression.

Post: #30

For me, I don’t post anything on Facebook that might give something away, I rent a decent three bedroom house for $1,000/month, don’t have a car anymore, and don’t really talk about how much money I make to anyone I know. I don’t even mention it online usually.

I haven’t really kept much from my GF as that seems weird and really, she doesn’t ask me to buy her anything.

Post: #31

(08-16-2019 04:12 AM)Vladimir Poontang Wrote:  I like the idea of being relatively wealthy but having most people think you have an average income. I'll leave a couple of links and questions to get the discussion going.


https://www.financialsamurai.com/the-ris...iety-rage/

https://wallethacks.com/stealth-wealth/


Is it a good idea after a few years to let your girlfriend / wife know how much you really have?

I read the first link. I agree that there is no cause to be ostentatious and in some cases, it can be dangerous. However, I don't agree that you should lie about your wealth and pretend to drive a shitty car to work or claim the stuff you bought are knock-offs, etc. If you have wealth then you earned it and should be proud and not living for the approval of others. Why would you be dependant on a job outside anyways?

I also don't agree that you should hide who you are to your very own wife. She should be a person who you can trust as she is also the mother of your children. It also doesn't take a lot of brains to see if a person is with you for your money or not and so what if they are to some degree? You like money too and that is why you want to be wealthy, right?

Post: #32

(08-17-2019 12:24 PM)Zenta Wrote:  

(08-17-2019 09:59 AM)ArloDash Wrote:  

(08-16-2019 03:51 PM)Zenta Wrote:  

(08-16-2019 11:47 AM)ArloDash Wrote:  

(08-16-2019 07:35 AM)iThinkThereforeIam Wrote:  [quote='Dilated' pid='2010879' dateline='1565954190']
Building real wealth for millennials and younger is a pipe dream. You can be happy if you can afford a 30 year mortgage on a studio apartment in a big city and not losing it before it's paid off because some femnazi went #metoo on you at work.

You are wrong. Go abroad and, do any random job online that pays $50K and you'll easily save half your income away.

Unfortunately saving 25k a year is not real "wealth".

Fair.

Its sad though, saving 25k a year is pretty damn good realistically. But at that level we will never reach "rich" or "wealthy". Unfortuantely its where I'm at though and I will continue trying to save as much as possible so I can retire to somewhere in the third world by the time im 45 or 50 in the 15-20 years. Hopefully my stash of money will translate to more more riches where it goes further.

Get married to someone that has a job, learn to live below your means, and get a DECENT job.

For a college educated couple who starts in their 30s and each make $100k (not that hard), they could easily be pocketing $50k/year just in cold hard cash, not including 401k. Most people can easily be millionaires by the time they hit 40, it's just that "most people" are dumb as hell regarding their money management. Lavish vacations, expensive clothes, eating out, expensive cars, latest gadgets, alcohol, coffee, all this shit adds up.

It is very easy to be wealthy. Now if you're talking about becoming a multimillionaire by the time you're 30, that's a different story. Then again, those are extreme outliers. I'd imagine most hit wealth status in their 30s or 40s anyways.

Post: #33

(08-25-2019 12:32 AM)newlife Wrote:  

(08-16-2019 04:12 AM)Vladimir Poontang Wrote:  I like the idea of being relatively wealthy but having most people think you have an average income. I'll leave a couple of links and questions to get the discussion going.


https://www.financialsamurai.com/the-ris...iety-rage/

https://wallethacks.com/stealth-wealth/


Is it a good idea after a few years to let your girlfriend / wife know how much you really have?

I read the first link. I agree that there is no cause to be ostentatious and in some cases, it can be dangerous. However, I don't agree that you should lie about your wealth and pretend to drive a shitty car to work or claim the stuff you bought are knock-offs, etc. If you have wealth then you earned it and should be proud and not living for the approval of others. Why would you be dependant on a job outside anyways?

I also don't agree that you should hide who you are to your very own wife. She should be a person who you can trust as she is also the mother of your children. It also doesn't take a lot of brains to see if a person is with you for your money or not and so what if they are to some degree? You like money too and that is why you want to be wealthy, right?

I'm not saying don't be yourself, I just mean that you should give the impression of being average until you know you've got a girl who isn't a gold digger. Then, gradually, give the impression of becoming wealthier until you can be yourself and spend the way you really want to. But If you're very wealthy (relative to everyone around you) I don't think anyone, including your wife, should know the full extent. And everyone else should certainly never know.

For example, if your income is about $100,000 a year and you live in a non western country :

The impression you give (at first) : $10,000
The level that you gradually allow the wife to know about : $25,000

Post: #34

I can appreciate what you are saying but I prefer just being upfront with people. You don't have to flaunt it but you don't have to hide it. You certainly don't have to tell every stranger on the street how much you have in the bank of course and I'm not really talking about who you date. I am talking about a wife. It is just important to marry a person who understands what is important.

Cheers.

Post: #35

(08-16-2019 04:12 AM)Vladimir Poontang Wrote:  Is it a good idea after a few years to let your girlfriend / wife know how much you really have?

It depends on whether you and your partner come from similar backgrounds, for example my ex came from a similar background to me and we moved in the same social circles so we knew roughly what we were both worth which made it easier in deciding to live together, splitting up costs and taking holidays to exotic locales.

If you're not from a similar background then keep schtum, don't mention anything about how rich you are nor do you overtly display said wealth. It's a recipe for disaster.

(08-16-2019 04:12 AM)Vladimir Poontang Wrote:  How do you give the impression that your income is average while spending money on expensive things?

Buy key pieces and display only the key pieces, don't go overboard in the display.

For example, a Patek is chill by itself but a Patek, Prada shoes and Canali suit screams rich.

(08-16-2019 04:12 AM)Vladimir Poontang Wrote:  What are some good ways to hide / protect your assets? (money, property, precious metals, etc)

Shield your assets through offshore structures/trusts, BVI to Jersey to Singapore offer such avenues however it's a costly endeavour.

To summarise, if you're rich around poor people keep schtum as otherwise you're opening yourself to abuse and it's rather vulgar to prattle on about how rich one is but if you're rich around rich, keep in line with the social vibe around discussing such matters as again, vulgarity is disgusting.

Post: #36

How do you guys present yourselves when it comes to how you dress? Say for example in EE, generally the fashion sense from the local men is somewhat lacking. So even walking around in say, a peacoat, shirt and dress shoes can easily make one stand out and appear to be wealthy in the eyes of many. Is altering your fashion sense to fit the area you are in something you do and if so to what extent?

Post: #37

(08-25-2019 03:47 PM)Poker Wrote:  How do you guys present yourselves when it comes to how you dress? Say for example in EE, generally the fashion sense from the local men is somewhat lacking. So even walking around in say, a peacoat, shirt and dress shoes can easily make one stand out and appear to be wealthy in the eyes of many. Is altering your fashion sense to fit the area you are in something you do and if so to what extent?

If lots of haters are around you will either need to live in a fancy area and drive from A to B or just dress down.

It's not natural for a lot of guys to dress down if you have money but you will sleep better at night.

Post: #38

(08-25-2019 11:56 PM)iThinkThereforeIam Wrote:  

(08-25-2019 03:47 PM)Poker Wrote:  How do you guys present yourselves when it comes to how you dress? Say for example in EE, generally the fashion sense from the local men is somewhat lacking. So even walking around in say, a peacoat, shirt and dress shoes can easily make one stand out and appear to be wealthy in the eyes of many. Is altering your fashion sense to fit the area you are in something you do and if so to what extent?

If lots of haters are around you will either need to live in a fancy area and drive from A to B or just dress down.

It's not natural for a lot of guys to dress down if you have money but you will sleep better at night.

This all depends on how long he has had money or if he is from new old old money. New rich guys always like to show it off. Guys who have experience with money are more interested in buying things for their quality, functionality and convenience.

Showing off your wealth it is a sign of an inferiority complex and if you live in a poor area then ift can bring you danger. However, I do not believe you have to or even should live the "stealth wealth" way if you really have it. What is the point of working hard and smart to becomes rich if you have to lie about yourself and hide what you have? Just buy a house in a nice gated community and enjoy life, you earned.

Post: #39

There's a way to not hide what you have, while also hiding it. You simply segregate your social life. You have wealthy friends who you can relax with and be more open about what you're up to and how well you're doing, and you have other friends, people in the majority, that you conceal certain things from. The wealthy ones won't take advantage of you because they've got their own wealth and they'll treat you normally because you're the same level as them, and the regular folks will appreciate you as a normal person too because that's all they'll see.

Post: #40

(08-25-2019 03:47 PM)Poker Wrote:  How do you guys present yourselves when it comes to how you dress?

Baller
Think 'Hypebeast', brands on display, ostentatious look, ensuring everyone knows my wealth, this is very rare that I dress this way, it's rather disgusting and I'm often uncomfortable wearing it but sometimes the occasion demands it.

Day to Day
Tee, jeans and sneakers or OCBD, chinos and Derbys, both are accessorised by my Rolex DateJust.

During A/W I layer up but it's all tailored so it doesn't hang weirdly, I also tune the clothing colours to that of my colour wheel and what suits my skin tone.

Work
Poplin/Twill white shirt, tailored dress trousers, Church's black Oxfords with silver monogram cufflinks and a black strapped JLC Reverso.

With day to day and work, I don't change that, I don't care if I'm in the poorest of areas, I'll wear it, a lot of it doesn't have logos and if you know, you know but if you don't know, you wouldn't be able to tell the difference as a layman so why bother changing it up? Baller is only worn on particular occasions, I wouldn't rub it in a poor persons face that they're poor, it's not polite.

Post: #41

(08-25-2019 03:47 PM)Poker Wrote:  How do you guys present yourselves when it comes to how you dress? Say for example in EE, generally the fashion sense from the local men is somewhat lacking. So even walking around in say, a peacoat, shirt and dress shoes can easily make one stand out and appear to be wealthy in the eyes of many. Is altering your fashion sense to fit the area you are in something you do and if so to what extent?

What's the point of trying to impress people through clothes? If you're trying to attract women through a display of wealth, dressing well may get their attention, but sooner than later you're going to need to back up your image with something more substantial like a car or a nice house. Because nowadays, even in EE, hot women are being chased by local guys who have serious money.

Post: #42

How about the exact opposite of this, let’s say somebody gains 500 million dollars. How does that person gain power. I know it’s foolish but I’m thinking Bruce Wayne type of power.

Post: #43

(08-26-2019 06:01 AM)Salame Wrote:  

(08-25-2019 03:47 PM)Poker Wrote:  How do you guys present yourselves when it comes to how you dress?

Baller
Think 'Hypebeast', brands on display, ostentatious look, ensuring everyone knows my wealth, this is very rare that I dress this way, it's rather disgusting and I'm often uncomfortable wearing it but sometimes the occasion demands it.

Day to Day
Tee, jeans and sneakers or OCBD, chinos and Derbys, both are accessorised by my Rolex DateJust.

During A/W I layer up but it's all tailored so it doesn't hang weirdly, I also tune the clothing colours to that of my colour wheel and what suits my skin tone.

Work
Poplin/Twill white shirt, tailored dress trousers, Church's black Oxfords with silver monogram cufflinks and a black strapped JLC Reverso.

With day to day and work, I don't change that, I don't care if I'm in the poorest of areas, I'll wear it, a lot of it doesn't have logos and if you know, you know but if you don't know, you wouldn't be able to tell the difference as a layman so why bother changing it up? Baller is only worn on particular occasions, I wouldn't rub it in a poor persons face that they're poor, it's not polite.

You have great taste.

Love that watch.

Post: #44

To me it seems that the ostentatious display of wealth for guys, is the equivalent of dressing like a slut for women. You will attract a lot of attention, but in the long run it will be the sort of attention you don't want.

The best quote I ever read was from a book called "Don't tell mom I work on the rigs, she thinks I'm a piano player in a whorehouse"

https://www.amazon.com/Dont-Tell-Mom-Wor...1600940250

It's all about the adventures and misadventures of a guy in the international oil industry, can't recommend highly enough. Getting aside, but obviously having money his MO in shithole countries was "To dress and act like nothing more than any other backpacker, but one who's quickly approaching his best before date".

Much the same way some guy will specifically target girls they think to be slutty based on how they dress, in poor (or even regular) countries you can quickly make yourself a mark for people who want something. Look at lottery winners. It may be as simple as someone who wants you to buy them drinks, or as pernicious as kidnapping. There is simply no upside to screaming from the rafters about your money. It's an old hat, but the saying comes to mind "Those who care don't matter, and those who matter don't care" and it's true.

Newlife nails it when he talks about it being a sign of an inferiority complex. Think of the "30k millionaire" we all know, again the male equivalent of a 3 that dresses like a slutty 9 but puts out like a whore. In their heart of hearts they know they don't measure up, so they want to do whatever they can to alleviate that feeling through superficial means.

Post: #45

(08-18-2019 04:49 PM)Swordfish1010 Wrote:  

(08-16-2019 03:20 PM)Deepdiver Wrote:  I go old school wise guy on women. I explain to them upfront the Wise Guy rules of marriage for a new or prospective wife. I had clients that were contractors on the Big Dig which cost nearly $20 Billion that flowed through all of the contractors and subcontractors in Boston. One was a concrete finishing company and the other asbestos abatement. Heavily connected guys who knew who is who and what is what.

These guys keep some serious cash in a shoebox or a few boxes as a backup to funds that could be seized by Feds or Law rats with malicious lawsuits and as money accumulates in offshore LLC or IBC accounts. Many visit Vegas or Northeast casinos to keep side wagering accounts with them and to get whale/vip treatment. Best way to hide 10K is five $1K and one $5K Casino chips versus 100 $100 blue benjamins.

Many buy a house for a reliable sister or other relatives who is stable and not on drugs and hides some cash etc., in a waterproof plastic canister that can not be detected deep under a flower garden as digging in gardens does not arouse suspicion.

You can not whack Feds but everyone else who might betray or attack you is fair game - this is cold hard Wiseguy Dread game - the wife is useful as she can not be forced to testify against her husband - John Gotti's wife was famous for saying "All I know is he provides". Period.

Taking vacations to BVI, Bermuda, Bahamas, Belize to handle your offshore LLCs or IBCs while visiting a local Casino is always a good idea. Most guys keep their working capital and collateral in the LLC and Reserves in the IBC - with a side Ride or Die IBC in the wife's name just in case of any catastrophic events.

Most important thing for her to keep in mind is to not red flag herself or you with moving large stacks of cash in and out of local Banks/Credit Unions as that will flag "cash staging" type inquiries from authorities.

Their women are ride or die women, old school wiseguy style meaning One Wife for One Life and a Wiseguy divorce is if she betrays you she knows far in advance that she will go out in a pine box. If you can not manage the women in your life how can you be given authority over men?

This knowledge reinforced with wife Dread game is its own reward plus you can then pass down wealth to help your kids learn to take over the family business.

With a wife and kids and/or long term mistress you can enjoy life but still not take it all with you.

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Holding cash during inflation of the money supply is letting the government steal from you.

Clearly, when you are in an SHTF scenario (Very recently Hurricane Maria in Puerto Rico the entire island is without electricity for weeks), Credit and Debit cards do not work and ATMs are as useless as an Air Conditioner when your home has no roof, no running water, and no electricity... Some Cash hidden in multiple non-magnetic waterproof containers with desiccant is always king in a survival situation - you need enough cash to cover your Food, Shelter, Water, Clothing, Ammunition necessities for you and your loved ones for at least 6 months in this scenario.

Then double that to buy others stuff they are selling off for 5 cents on the dollar - guns/ammo/tools - trucks etc - stuff that will have real value when the electricity comes back on but they had to barter cheaply just to survive because they had no hidden cash on hand.

Read up on IBCs and LLCs - read the Nomad Capitalist web site... the wealthiest guy I know has over $25M in liquid reserves in Offshore British Island IBCs (International Business Corporations) - to sue his IBCs that any phockwad lawyers with their nuisance suits like they do in the USA - the Munts filling suit in these offshore jurisdictions must pay all court and lawyers fees if they lose or the case is thrown out - and they would have to know the IBCs even existed in the first place - he will not even tell me which Banks he uses so I had to buy the Nomad Capitalist's offshore banking guide.

This disincentivizes most nuisance suits (Pissed off former banglers or slips and falls on your property or worse Govt Phishing Expeditions) because these expenses can be significant even for the government and unlike the USA where your bloody accounts can be frozen with a flimsy court order in the IBC countries you have to be notified that such an order was issued so you can transfer funds from one IBC to an unknown Entity in another jurisdiction. There is an actual hearing BEFORE funds can be frozen unless the Gov can prove you are ISIS/Al Qaeda or El Chapo etc.

My acquaintance has three IBCs two attached to active trading accounts and and a reserve IBC he made over $1.6M USD last year in the side accounts and swept the cash in and out of the IBCs to the third stealth IBC - the IBCs are offshore entities that are not subject to US Corporate Taxes (There are annual IBC fees of about 6% but this is far less than US Corporate Federal Taxes which is why the Offshore Jurisdictions are so protective of their IBC owners - 6% on Trillions GBP goes a long way on Island Time Mahn!).

A reason why you rarely see mentally ill homeless drugs addicts in the Islands unlike NYC/LA/SF/Balt/DC etc - they actually have money to keep them in treatment centers or Mental Health hospitals in a civilized manner and any hardcore criminals are transferred to UK Max security institutions off the islands. Which is why the Nomad Capitalist - Andrew Henderson talks up offshore LLCs and IBCs so much in jurisdictions that treat you and your money the best - instead of the USA and EU via OECD https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OECD a.k.a. the Confiscatory Taxation Countries that lately love to transfer your wealth via high taxes to illiterate gimmegrants

He does have a couple US Based accounts that he trades and pays the US Taxes on to placate his CPA and to have substantial profits to live off of in the USA on after-tax paid cash. The profits he earns annually far exceed inflation and his taxes. So now you know the rest of the story... well almost the rest is secret. Success is Secrecy and Secrecy is Success regarding stealth wealth.


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Post: #46

(08-26-2019 04:28 AM)Vladimir Poontang Wrote:  There's a way to not hide what you have, while also hiding it. You simply segregate your social life. You have wealthy friends who you can relax with and be more open about what you're up to and how well you're doing, and you have other friends, people in the majority, that you conceal certain things from. The wealthy ones won't take advantage of you because they've got their own wealth and they'll treat you normally because you're the same level as them, and the regular folks will appreciate you as a normal person too because that's all they'll see.

What you say is quite reasonable. Personally I don't see the need to have more than a handful of good friends and another handful of ok friends, doesn't really matter to me if they are wealthy or not or if they know I am wealthy or not since should are respectable people with integrity. I myself, like hanging out with other self-employed people. Such people have a certain energy and proactivity that I rarely see in the 9-to-5 guys.

Post: #47

(08-27-2019 06:20 AM)Seadog Wrote:  The best quote I ever read was from a book called "Don't tell mom I work on the rigs, she thinks I'm a piano player in a whorehouse"

https://www.amazon.com/Dont-Tell-Mom-Wor...1600940250

It's all about the adventures and misadventures of a guy in the international oil industry, can't recommend highly enough. Getting aside, but obviously having money his MO in shithole countries was "To dress and act like nothing more than any other backpacker, but one who's quickly approaching his best before date".

I have "read" book and it is great. Actually I have it on audiobooks and it is actually narrated by Paul Carter himself. (I mostly stopped reading books years ago and go for the audio versions when available. I find it actually easier to absorb especially if read by the author, who knows which key points to emphasize. There will sometimes also be extra added material and updates that are not in the paper book and it is the best thing you can do while on the road instead of listening to music or the fake news.)

One thing I would like to say is that every guy should have at least one quality suit and one nice watch. I have several nice watches that I have acquired over the years but the one I love most is the least expensive one: Nixon 51-30 Chrono


An important note: Even the most expensive Italian suit will lose most of its efficacy if you aren't clean-cut and preferably clean-shaven.

Post: #48

Some private clubs will not allow people to wear clothes with letters on it. Wealth brings envy and resentment. This is why wealthy people should always remain discreet. Exception is showing off wealth through children. Because basically nowadays anyone will be stripped naked if the tax department points their gun to them. Nobody can pass an intense tax audit. Because the tax code is unreadable with sufficient room for any interpretation. Tax dictatorship. In places like Monaco people can flaunt their wealth. Because they don´t pay tax. In other countries wealth is now a sin.

Money buys you quality. And time. Nothing more. Anything besides this is woman talk.

"Dying societies accumulate laws, like dying men accumulate remedies".

Post: #49

(08-30-2019 05:20 AM)conspirator Wrote:  Exception is showing off wealth through children... Because basically nowadays anyone will be stripped naked if the tax department points their gun to them... Because the tax code is unreadable with sufficient room for any interpretation.

Money buys you quality. And time. Nothing more. Anything besides this is woman talk.

Clearly, you are not well educated, do not understand taxation and obviously have never had money or class.

Money does not necessarily buy quality and definitely time. To be quality-oriented is a state of mind. When was the last tie you saw anyone buy back their past with money or by an extra day of life while on their death bed? Even steve jobs couldn't.

Money is important and there is no such thing as having enough of it because:

Money is the only thing that can protect you from all the uncertainties of life.

Post: #50

^
And you are a woman. Got hurt by "Anything besides this is woman talk."

I can tell your a woman because of your complete absence of logic. And the way you insert completely unrelated personal shit into a discussion.

"When was the last tie you saw anyone buy back their past."

You were a whore who rode the cock carousel. Go to a church and ask god for forgiveness. Follow christ. Afterwards enjoy simple things of life and pray. Stop being an obnoxious drama queen like you´ve revealed yourself in this thread. Because if you continue in this path you will continue being nothing more than a worthless cumdumpster.

"or by an extra day of life while on their death bed?"

Who died recently in your life? Steve Jobs spent millions on his treatment.

No more derailing the thread. Since arguing with a woman or maybe a faggot or trans or whatever the fuck is called this days is pointless.

Back to topic the question about steal wealth is why do you want money/wealth if you have to live like a poor? To look at digits in a computer. Taxes are the price you pay to enjoy your wealth. There are millionaires who will collect clothes from garbage cans. Literally. Check the witch of Wall Street.