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OP with less than 10 posts creates a thread promoting the virtues of Islam.

Reminds me of the South Park episode when Mr. Garrison teaches Muslim sensitivity training

https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2o02oe
08-28-2019 08:47 PM
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(08-28-2019 06:19 PM)Kid Twist Wrote:  If Christians are liars or corrupters of "the faith" then they certainly "invented" an amazing man by all stretch of the imagination according to time, history, and nearly every culture that we know of. Yet, you call someone (Mo) who is not like this person at all, "the complete man"?

Indeed, a bunch of backwater Galileans somehow invented the most blatantly holy man in the history of literature (try to invent a holy man). A man telling memorable parable after parable, all with incredible economy and power. A man whose authority and purity leaps off the page.

I mean, just read the Sermon on the Mount (Matt chapters 5 - 7). It's one classic quote after another.
08-28-2019 09:18 PM
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When was the last time you saw anyone but a Muslim holding a human head? One he had just cut off. I can provide dozens of photos and several videos for research but they're too sick to post here.

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(08-26-2019 05:31 PM)kamoz Wrote:  Waiting for SS to bomb this thread like...

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Islam - the religion of peace - in chronological easy to read order of Quran:

http://www.koran-at-a-glance.com

Note the marked verses which refer to violence towards unbelievers and which talk about Jihad.

Islam is a religion that was created by the Arab conquerors, Mohammed likely did not even exist as he was an amalgamation of the early leaders.

I don't even have to nuke the "datasheet". Islam is an absolute destructive cult that permeates violence and stupidity on all levels.

It's a simple ideology of war in the 7th century that worked only up until the 16th century among the Ottomans, because the Ottomans robbed constantly some European combat and sex-slaves. Otherwise the other factors promoted by Islam - inbreeding, tribalization, low-IQ breeding, - it all destroys the very genetic fabric of a country.

Anyone who thinks that Islam is the bestest religion or political system ever needs to have his head examined - or he believes in the tooth fairy.
08-29-2019 03:34 AM
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(08-28-2019 09:18 PM)Athanasius Wrote:  
(08-28-2019 06:19 PM)Kid Twist Wrote:  If Christians are liars or corrupters of "the faith" then they certainly "invented" an amazing man by all stretch of the imagination according to time, history, and nearly every culture that we know of. Yet, you call someone (Mo) who is not like this person at all, "the complete man"?

Indeed, a bunch of backwater Galileans somehow invented the most blatantly holy man in the history of literature (try to invent a holy man). A man telling memorable parable after parable, all with incredible economy and power. A man whose authority and purity leaps off the page.

I mean, just read the Sermon on the Mount (Matt chapters 5 - 7). It's one classic quote after another.

Hilarious - typical Muslim fashion maligning Christianity. Especially Jesus is a tough cookie - you can deny his sainthood, but his existence is quite detailed by historical accounts. Less - Mohammed - any mention of his appears only decades after the first conquests. There is close to no historical data on him.

Though if it makes you a better man then I would not care. The problem is that Islam makes societies far worse and not better - over generations it even destroys them. The entire "religion" should be banned and all mosques torn down. The former Muslims would be better off that way.
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(08-29-2019 03:34 AM)Simeon_Strangelight Wrote:  
(08-26-2019 05:31 PM)kamoz Wrote:  Waiting for SS to bomb this thread like...

Islam - the religion of peace - in chronological easy to read order of Quran:

koran-at-a-glance

Note the marked verses which refer to violence towards unbelievers and which talk about Jihad.

Even more out of context. The verses come with context/metadata. You sound like those Bible attacking atheists at this point.

I do defend the Bible sometimes to these guys but stop when they get emotions involved.

(08-29-2019 03:34 AM)Simeon_Strangelight Wrote:  Islam is a religion that was created by the Arab conquerors, Mohammed likely did not even exist as he was an amalgamation of the early leaders.

I don't even have to nuke the "datasheet". Islam is an absolute destructive cult that permeates violence and stupidity on all levels.

..., low-IQ breeding, - ... very genetic ...

... Islam is the bestest religion ...

Zelcorpion/SS, IQ and race again. Very genetic.

Bring back 3/5 of a human, but IQ edition. Do not worry, I am not racist, East Asians have 5.5/5 IQ. Very genetic. It is not my fault, just cause science.

Is this a common belief in this forum or is just this guy? This guys unchallenged posts and his forum status makes it look like this is the majority view in the forum.

Tribes are a natural consequence of concatenative patronymic surnames (Biblical surnames). Human nature. This is socio-cultural, not religious.

TBH, you have made me laugh at some posts.

"Islam is the bestest religion" I really do hope that this was a joke.
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< You are just a Muslim who is unaware of the crap that your religion is causing.

And yes - when 30-60% of Muslims breed with their family, then this produces a low-IQ population. I have more respect for the early Arab warriors that went looting and pillaging, conquering huge swaths of land, then they manifested a religion to suit their desires.

It's a Satanic religion of utmost degree. And yeah - the SJWs think that Islam is the bestest religion ever.





Even organized Jewry likes your religion better, because they can control the low-IQ barbarians far easier.

And no - Islam is less about IQ initially. The Western converts often become quite radical because they actually read the texts. What is called by Muslim extremists in the mainstream is actually a true believer.

But discussions with you are useless. You want to spread what you grew up with and fine.

I hope you like it when the Chinese dominate the planet. You should look like they deal with their Uighurs.

And the Rabbis say that Islam is their broom with which they want to destroy Europe - obviously by planting lots of violent dumb Muslims.

Also funny your "out of context" Quran. The Quran is fucking out of context and has to be read chronologically since the latest verses supersede the oldest ones. So the peaceful ones are wiped out by the violent ones later, but I guess when someone is spreading propaganda it's akin to a Muslim giving a woman a Rumi poetry book to teach her about Islam.
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How does a member with 11 posts know you as Zelcorpion?

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(11-15-2014 09:06 AM)Little Dark Wrote:  This thread is not going in the direction I was hoping for.
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Most formerly banned members get triggered by one or all of those topics:

+ Islam not being the bestest religion evar
+ all races not being equal on all metrics - (SJWs: of course some are faster, but smarter no way - evolution stops at the neck!)
+ Western countries being the home-countries of European people - mass migration from the third world will be just fine!

So one of those topics triggers them so much that they come back here, go on different forums to put balm on their emotional wounds by having been hurt by those evil evil facts. Go to Twitter - there you can celebrate Islamic terror attacks in Arabic without getting banned and you can deny Westerners their homecountries 24/7 - you will be praised by the Bluehaired and Jewish Checkmarks.

Seems like this guy got triggered by all 3 topics.
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Yeah, this thread is getting worn out fast - was fun for a minute, but this guy isn't being genuine, and isn't actually responding to any criticisms except to say it's a criticism, no rebuttals.
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(08-27-2019 07:31 PM)Sherman Wrote:  There are serious scholars who now doubt that Muhammad even existed.

https://quadrant.org.au/magazine/2012/07...not-exist/

That article is fascinating and quite scholarly. Having previously read a number of books about Islam, I learned quite a few things from the article:

Quote:This is not surprising, as the extant material concerning the historical figure of Muhammad is scant indeed, as we have seen. And even in the Koran, Spencer reminds us, “the name Muhammad actually appears … only four times, and in three of those instances it could be used as a title—the ‘praised one’ or ‘chosen one’—rather than as a proper name”, and no information is disclosed about his life. (By contrast, Jesus is mentioned twenty-five times, eleven as the Messiah.)

https://quadrant.org.au/magazine/2012/07...not-exist/


As I always believed, Islam is not a religion but a political doctrine of conquest and world domination disguised as a religion.

Quote: In his own attempt to provide an evidence-based account, Spencer begins with the “immutable fact” of the Arab empire that emerged at the time and quickly found itself requiring the ideological legitimation that could only be provided by a political theology similar to that exercised over their subject people by the Roman, Byzantine and Persian states.

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In summary, the imperatives of “empire came first and the theology came later … the spiritual propositions that Islam offers were elaborated in order to justify and perpetuate the political entity that generated them”.

https://quadrant.org.au/magazine/2012/07...not-exist/
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He of course won't answer my question at all regarding how ICXC and Mo are diametric opposites. This alone makes Islam laughable, especially when you talk to "muslims" living in the west, where they don't have numbers and are generally cash seeking and into standard of living improvements are far more than a 7th century warlord with slaves and multiple wives.

We don't even have to go to the fact that the Quran is clearly based off of Syriac lectionaries.

St. John of Damascus exposed it early on.

The borders of the empire had many heretics involved in all sorts of amalgamations of faith and belief systems.

Get your passport ready!
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(08-28-2019 06:27 AM)LEMONed IScream Wrote:  Islam is the only religion in the world that has convinced people to blow themselves up to go to heaven and get virgins. Why not any other religion?

Polygamy. When the top males take on multiple wives, there will be an excess of men at the bottom with no women at all. You have to cull the herd somehow. Polygamous Mormons drive the excess men out of town; Islam convinces them to blow themselves up.
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(08-26-2019 09:32 PM)for.petes.sake Wrote:  Then there are the set of political rules that come into play. The Koran has rules on how to govern people. Why would God create so many political laws? A religion should be to spiritual guide you, not tell you how to govern (and in such detail).

Depends on what you mean by political. If by that you mean, attempting to influence the opinions of others, then an apolitical religion is impossible. If a religion makes moral statements that influence political views, again that religion is political.

If religion does not cover Politics, people will be left to their own devices. A Man will rise over the chatter and tell the rest to quieten. I prefer Divine Law to what that man has to say.

(08-26-2019 09:32 PM)for.petes.sake Wrote:  Pray 5 times a day! Why would God need me to pray 5 times a day? And then that too at such odd times like 5am.

Pray 5 times a day! Laugh

God expects (not needs) effort and devotion of you. Maintaining attendance becomes effortless with time, the difficulty then shifts to maintaining punctuality and focus. I cannot finish my day without finishing my prayers, I would feel like I had missed the mark.

Is He not worthy of worship?

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(08-26-2019 09:32 PM)for.petes.sake Wrote:  Alcohol is banned so that people do not get drunk and never break free from the programming.

Alcohol does not free you, abusing it it enslaves you into addiction and humilates you. It is an intoxicant, it makes you do things you would never consider sober. Half of the Darwin awards would be gone if banned.

If you were not occupied with it, you would be free to learn and discuss politics, philosophy and religion.

Comparing the persons of Jesus and Muhammad (pbut)
(08-27-2019 11:18 PM)Kid Twist Wrote:  I really would like to read an attempt to explain why the person of Jesus Christ and the person of Muhammad are antithetical. I'm being quite serious here, when it really comes down to it, they have literally nothing in common in action and teaching.

I had hoped this was a genuine question.

(08-28-2019 06:19 PM)Kid Twist Wrote:  
(08-28-2019 03:58 PM)OskuroPekenyo Wrote:  They had different situations and different people, but taught the same message of Monotheism, and Divine Law.

You didn't answer my question. The Anointed One doesn't teach the "same" message of Monotheism or Divine Law as Muhammad either.

how do we rectify their completely antithetical actions?

You should think long and hard on this topic, it is actually this simple to show you who God really is. You did come to a red pill forum. Please note that the argument speaks for itself, I'm just the Morpheus messenger on this one.

I need more detail to answer the question. Or alternatively another one that you would like a Muslim to answer.
  • Are we comparing the prophets Muhammad and Jesus (pbut) (Islamic view)? Then they had the same mission. But you do not believe this.
  • Are we comparing the Christian Jesus with the Christian view of Prophet Muhammad (pbut) (Christian view)? Is this the point you were trying to make? But I am not Christian.
  • Are we comparing what we can prove and agree of the historical Jesus and the historical Muhammad (pbut) using a neutral moral standard? Relativity. This is long and fruitless to both of us.
Unless you are trying to make a point, answering these questions and writing it down is going to take a lot more time than I am willing to invest. There is no guarantee of you accepting an answer. The third one will have us arguing.

We have different narratives to begin with. We would make progress discussing those.

I can sense that there is so much to the Prophet (pbuh) that you have not read or heard. His character (in how good he was) brings me to tears. Read more from Muslim sources.

You did come to a red pill forum. - I came here to introduce and describe and to also explain if asked. Red pill here applies to human nature and social dynamics.

I have left you with some questions:
  • Jesus prayed prostrate with his face to the ground, Matthew 26:39, God most High of OT wiped out Nations (the deluge, Sodom, Gomorrah etc.) that disobeyed him, how do you reconcile Jesus being God?
  • If you can worship the three persons that make the Trinity, separately (e.g. pray to Jesus first, then the Father, then the Spirit), would you not have three gods in one ultimate reality?

At least an attempt to answer these?

Quote:He of course won't answer my question at all

Yeah... I am not answering at all...^^^ This did not go in the direction I had hoped Icon_biggrinIcon_biggrinIcon_biggrin

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(08-29-2019 05:15 AM)Simeon_Strangelight Wrote:  And yes - when 30-60% ... then ... a low-IQ population.

Even organized Jewry likes your religion better, ... low-IQ barbarians ...

... less about IQ initially.

Stop, you're killing me Laugh

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(08-29-2019 05:15 AM)Simeon_Strangelight Wrote:  Even organized Jewry likes your religion better

Seriously though, we ban interest.

On Authoritarians and God
(08-29-2019 05:15 AM)Simeon_Strangelight Wrote:  I hope you like it when the Chinese dominate the planet. You should look like they deal with their Uighurs.

China has banned the Bible and then in their new, Government approved translation have omitted the first commandment.

As a reminder, the first commandment is "Thou shalt have no other gods before me". In Monotheism, ultimate moral authority and loyalty belongs to God.

They are persecuting Muslims for the same reason as they are persecuting Christians.

If its not friendly to the Islamic creed, its probably not friends with Christians either.

Actions are louder than words.

The Islamic narrative of The Exodus may be of interest to you.

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(08-29-2019 05:15 AM)Simeon_Strangelight Wrote:  And the Rabbis say that Islam is their broom with which they want to destroy Europe ...

There would be far fewer wars and battles if stupid people did not say stupid things publicly like that. I am guilty of saying things that I now regret but not in public like that.

There are many God-fearing Jews minding their own business and praying in their Synagogues, they do not need this rubbish.

Whoever that Rabbi was, he needs to be stripped of his title. No wisdom at all.

OP's responses
(08-28-2019 08:47 PM)for.petes.sake Wrote:  OP with less than 10 posts creates a thread promoting the virtues of Islam.

The datasheet was made to inform and describe. I originally did not want to debate, but I had to respond to some of the comments here.

You can search for the virtues online.

(08-29-2019 05:49 AM)Oz. Wrote:  How does a member with 11 posts know you as Zelcorpion?

I took the time to read the forum posts and learn.

Some members stand out more.

(08-29-2019 05:15 AM)Simeon_Strangelight Wrote:  You want to spread what you grew up with and fine.

I respect you too brother.

(08-29-2019 06:21 AM)Simeon_Strangelight Wrote:  ... Go to Twitter - there you can celebrate Islamic terror attacks in Arabic without getting banned ...

When I read the news and saw one of the attacks in 2014, I nearly puked. I remember being over the sink.

We hate terrorists. Also, like with the Rabbi mentioned above, we all have our idiots.

There are idiots that argue the same talking points as you, and then add very violent and twisted things to them. Would you say that they represent you? Do they represent you?

I sincerely wish that you do not have to go through that. I wish peace for those who suffered.

Gimlet Wrote:Polygamy. ... excess of men ... cull the herd somehow. ...Islam convinces them to blow themselves up.
My personal observation
Do we not have defacto polygamy in the West? Limit it to four and make the men fully responsible (at least give the kids a surname, identity and honor). With women fully aware of the deal, only the most hypergamous will attempt the top men.

Islam convinces them to blow themselves up - I have already responded to this in general, TLDR: Suicide, even in as a war tactic, is a sin that leads straight to Hell
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I'll never accept any religion being shoved down my throat. God gave us all free will. Jesus came to earth to abolish religion. There is nothing more demonic than the way most religions dictate their subjects on how to bloodlet and murder. This includes odd sects of quasi-Christian (obviously pseudo Christian) churches. The specials and the kebabs do it the worst though. Specials behind the curtain, kebabs in plain sight.

There is nothing more you can add on islam, fellow forum dude. The verdict is in for those who seek absolute truth: it is not to be trusted.
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You will get the same answer with socialists/communists and muslims when critiqued. “Ohhhh that is not true Islam when talking about Shia vs Sunni.( somebody is wrong) Or when a terrorist recites verses from the Quran. Look at tge context! Ohhh it’s only applicable during times of war. With socialists and communists, they will respond with every failure of socialist states and say,,,, “ ohhh that’s not real socialism”.

I can tell you all from my experience living in the gulf Middle East that the Ummah means
absolutely nothing. In Arabic it means community, but in practise people use it to manipulate weak people. Calling each other brother or sister (like black Americans do) and killing eachother over silly things. Marrying other muslims from other tribes/countries is troublesome. A Tunisian female can marry a Saudi but his sister or female relative is forbidden to marry a Tunisian male. ( exceptions are given, but societal pressure is enormous) nevermind the Pakistani muslims. They take the cake. They are below the other expats living in Muslim countries. Yet they claim to be the “biggest/proudest” muslims who gave up their culture for an Arabic one that puts them below other arabs. I can see the apologists saying, ohhh that should not happen in Islam. That is not true Islam.

It’s already late and I can go on and on. When apostasy becomes legal and socially it is acceptable for your ladies to marry outside and change their religions and the men too, then we can have a discussion about the beautiful aspects of it. We will not know until we die which religion is the correct one.

P.s. a proper data sheet should include the positives and negatives of such topic.
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That guy's arguments are as ridiculous as the peaceful nature of Islam. It's the worst religion on this planet, I think that Satanism may be better because at least you know what's up with them while Islam is officially given such supposedly nice verses. Meanwhile the mountain of shit is covered up by Taqyia and the society-destroying add-ons are just unmasked when you join it. 80%+ of all new converts in the US also leave that shit after 4 years. And this is for a good reason. Because they are told a bunch of idiotic lies by guys like this about Islam - never mentioning the negatives at all.

Negatives? Not true Islam - even if it's specifically noted in the Quran, strong Hadiths and Sunnah. There are plenty of learned ex-Muslims from whom you can find out amazing stories of what happens withing this "bestest religion evar" according to SJWs.

Believe if you want it - your Islamic PR here is just what it is - a steaming pile of shit covered with your gold-dust arguments. Defending Islam is just like defending Communism - you always resort to repeating again and again: "This is not true communism brothers and sisters! You haven't done it right." No Muslim country will do it right - that garbage should be banned worldwide and one day someone will do it. And the former Muslims would be glad it happened.
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I went to some Muslim countries when I was younger. George W. Bush wanted us to kill the terrorists, and they happened to live there.

I don't know much about the religion of peace, but I do know that the morning prayer call over loudspeakers is some seriously spooky stuff. There is no way anyone is going to have a good day when you wake up to that.

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Shiism
(08-30-2019 12:54 AM)tomtud Wrote:  ... that is not true Islam when talking about Shia ...

(08-30-2019 03:27 AM)Simeon_Strangelight Wrote:  ... is covered up by Taqyia ...

I sense some Alex Jones here Laugh

Brother, diversify your sources on news (do not look at pre-digested rubbish, take the time to learn the basics and look at the raw sources).

I was hoping that you mentioned Taqiyyah. It is a Twelver Shia doctrine. Not even all Shias* do it.

In public they say one thing, but in their books the heresy gets colorful and gets them ex-communicated. Again in public they say Sunnis are their brothers, in their books, they discuss ways of killing Sunnis.

There are so many videos from Iraq after Shia got power, on what they do to Sunnis. Too brutal to post here.

They spend a lot on PR.

They do Taqiyyah because they do not want to be found out.

Sunnis are transparent, we do work to put the Qur'an and the Sunnah on the Internet, with the original Arabic. There are scores of translations for you to pull out of context.

Most people debate Sunnis and ignore the Shia.

Ummah
(08-30-2019 12:54 AM)tomtud Wrote:  Middle East ... the Ummah ... community, but in practise...

Marrying other muslims from other tribes/countries is troublesome. A Tunisian female can marry a Saudi but his sister or female relative is forbidden to marry a Tunisian male.

P.s. a proper data sheet should include the positives and negatives of such topic.

The keywords are in practice. The Ummah is not in a very good state right now. One part is persecuted, other in poverty and ignorance and the last bathes in money.

There reminds me of a hadith on the End Times.

That the "bare-footed shepherds would compete on building the tallest buildings". Some scholars and speakers have pointed at the Gulf.

والله اعلم
(And Allah knows best)

Tunisian female can marry a Saudi but his sister or female relative is forbidden to marry a Tunisian male - This is socio-cultural. This is tribalism in action. You could write a book on Tribe-Game.

People have perverted nature so bad, that some ignorant Muslims are happy that their men fornicate with women (they are relieved that that they do not Sodomize). The lesser of the big problems. Yeah, times are not good.

The negatives? I believe in Islam 100%. I would not know what to say...

I was just hoping on describing the beliefs and the practices in detail.

Zelcopion again
(08-30-2019 03:27 AM)Simeon_Strangelight Wrote:  ... I think that Satanism may be better ...

Are you really going that far? That you would knowingly go the other way and worship Satan, the rejected ingrate outcast, than worship God sincerely (but be mistaken, from your perspective)?

(08-30-2019 03:27 AM)Simeon_Strangelight Wrote:  ... mountain of shit ... steaming pile of shit ...

Do not insult other peoples faiths if you sincerely respect yours. You know they will respond in kind.

Disagree and state your opinion if you will. I have taken the time to respond respectfully.

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I think I have most things covered here. This may be coming to its natural end.

*The Shia are not one monolithic group. There are many sub-sects. Some are technically Muslim, others not. Some admit they are not Muslim.

Usually, what makes one school a Shia school is the belief that "Ali should have been the first Caliph, not Abu Bakr". This heresy does not ex-communicate one, even in the strictest of standards.

Iran was a majority Sunni country until about 1500, when the Safavids came to power and forcefully converted the country to Shiism. Most people do not convert to Shiism under natural circumstances.
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< I have to take back insults of your bestest religion while you do laughing emojis over real topics like Islamic inbreeding and the destructive nature on IQ and behavioral patterns - ah forgot - IQ does not exist and even it does not exist, it's not relevant whether a population has averages of 85,75,65 or 105.

I am afraid that mostly Islam merits my insults to that degree - and I found it out painfully by studying it, delving also into the nature by reading plenty of sources. A guy like David Wood who frequently debates scholars knows more about Islam than 98% of Imams.

But whatever - you did your thing promoting the bestest religion evar and then repeated your mantras. A formerly banned member - likely banned for praising bomb makers or going apeshit over some Indian issue or something. Why don't you tell us who you were before?

Besides - your discussion style is not polite and balanced - it's just passive aggressive bullshit and I would not trust you even one iota. Mikado has a polite pro-Islam discussion style - you are clearly something else.
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(08-30-2019 08:04 AM)Simeon_Strangelight Wrote:  < I have to take back insults of your bestest religion while you do laughing emojis over real topics

Do not take back anything. Just do not use obscene language when you talk about what others consider holy. Also I do not want to engage in that kind of behaviour.

Correct or not, I find discussions on IQ, population and race and their logical conclusions very funny. They just lead to very funny places.

So let us assume some people have an average IQ of 65. What comes to mind?

Assuming a bell curve and a mean of 65, by definition, a half of the population has less IQ than that.

I am really laughing hard here, snapping through the real life consequences, visualizing the results of the statements. There is so much that I have not written here.

I do not believe in that, there are so many factors involved that we may not be aware of. It is not as simple as explaining how things fall. It is not as simple as that and it is easy to undermine an entire people with statements like that. The odds for accidental injustice are just so big. I just don't want to contribute to that. So I do not explore that.

Runaway memes can cost people dear things.

I used to read Heartiste before it was deplatformed as well.

(08-30-2019 08:04 AM)Simeon_Strangelight Wrote:  like Islamic inbreeding and the destructive nature on IQ and behavioral patterns - ah forgot - IQ does not exist and even it does not exist, it's not relevant whether a population has averages of 85,75,65 or 105.

I do not want a thread on describing Islam to be derailed into a discussion of IQ, race and populations. It has nothing to do with the core teachings, values and concepts. I do not want to discuss it elsewhere either. I do not want my hand in that. There is a Judgement Day and I do not want to face millions of people that I cost opportunities.

If you have questions on what Islam is from a Muslim then go for it. I'll answer what I can answer. You can Google to confirm and verify.

If you have something to share that I may have not heard of, then go for it.

(08-30-2019 08:04 AM)Simeon_Strangelight Wrote:  ... A guy like David Wood who frequently debates scholars knows more about Islam than 98% of Imams.

He had a debate with Mohamed Hijab.

There are much better Christian apologists.

(08-30-2019 08:04 AM)Simeon_Strangelight Wrote:  But whatever - you did your thing promoting the bestest religion evar and then repeated your mantras. A formerly banned member - likely banned for praising bomb makers or going apeshit over some Indian issue or something. Why don't you tell us who you were before?

I used to lurk here. There is good material here.

I decided to join and contribute what I can.

Some of the content here was embarrasingly wrong on Islam. So I started there.

Also, discussions on politics involving Islam without knowing the basics of it... Well, here is a datasheet with basics. The invitation is secondary.

likely banned for praising bomb makers ...? Agree and amplify? You are not exactly polite here.

(08-30-2019 08:04 AM)Simeon_Strangelight Wrote:  Besides - your discussion style is not polite and balanced - ... I would not trust you even one iota...

You are using rude language with religion and people.

If I am being impolite with you then correct me. If there is a thread on this then point me to it.

We do not believe in the same things, that is ok.

You can use Google to confirm.
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(08-30-2019 12:34 PM)OskuroPekenyo Wrote:  
(08-30-2019 08:04 AM)Simeon_Strangelight Wrote:  < I have to take back insults of your bestest religion while you do laughing emojis over real topics

Correct or not, I find discussions on IQ, population and race and their logical conclusions very funny. They just lead to very funny places.

So let us assume some people have an average IQ of 65. What comes to mind?

Assuming a bell curve and a mean of 65, by definition, a half of the population has less IQ than that.

If you have a population with a mean IQ of 65, then it means that people on both side of the mean are imbeciles. What is your point?

   


So, Muslims are bombing innocent civilians and beheading people -- and yet you chide Christians for "using rude language" when pointing out that Islam is the cause. Very typical entitlement mentality. Muslims can enable the spilling of innocent blood and then they also demand civility.
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This conversation is pointless. No one is gonna bulge even for a little bit.

I have engaged in the past in discussions similar to this. Every time there is a user (with >95% of his posts against democrats/EU/immigration/islam) who uses violent words against me (or sends me a passive agressive message via PM) then puts me on ignore list. At least someone like Simeon_Strangelight remains cordial, even if we always disagree.

I think you should just let it go, OP. You won't convince anyone here. I have abandonned trying that for a long time, after getting every time accused of Taqqiya, deformation of my words, apology of terrorism, and other stuff like that. For example, after declaring for 6 years that I am against terrorism, AND illegal immigration, you still have people pretending that I advocate for those.

Just enjoy the decline and watch the forum salt and tears on different subjects, like Brexit or the upcoming recession, or the alleged "great replacement".

Je suis le roi du monde!!!
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(08-30-2019 01:24 PM)mikado Wrote:  This conversation is pointless. No one is gonna bulge even for a little bit.

I have engaged in the past in discussions similar to this. Every time there is a user (with >95% of his posts against democrats/EU/immigration/islam) who uses violent words against me (or sends me a passive agressive message via PM) then puts me on ignore list. At least someone like Simeon_Strangelight remains cordial, even if we always disagree.

I think you should just let it go, OP. You won't convince anyone here.

I was not trying to convince or convert. I was just trying to share.

If I find anything new to share on Islam in the future, I might share it here.

I let go of any debating here on this thread.
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(08-30-2019 03:43 AM)Kona Wrote:  I went to some Muslim countries when I was younger. George W. Bush wanted us to kill the terrorists, and they happened to live there.

I don't know much about the religion of peace, but I do know that the morning prayer call over loudspeakers is some seriously spooky stuff. There is no way anyone is going to have a good day when you wake up to that.

Aloha!

Did you find the WMDs? And tell the locals that if it wasn't for Uncle Sam, they'd all be speaking German now?

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