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(09-05-2019 02:52 AM)NiceGuy Wrote:  
(09-03-2019 10:42 AM)floridaboiii Wrote:  For those of you thinking about going to Argentina soon check out flybondi.com. Stupid cheap flight prices within Argentina, Paraguay, and now they have some flights to Brazil. The lowest I’ve seen was a flight from Iguazú falls to Buenos Aires for literally 10$.

This situation is crazy though... I can’t wrap my head around it as I was there last month and everything was ridiculously cheap. Hopefully when I get back in December it’s even cheaper.

Are international flights cheap and brand name hotels cheap as well if I pay in their local currency?

I received an email yesterday from Copa Airlines touting a sale on flights to Argentina. I have never seen a sale from Copa devoted just to Argentina before. The savings appear relatively modest, at least in U.S. dollars.

https://destinationsguide.copaair.com/en...GG,4W4MO,1


BTW: One of the travel hacks that I have read about, but never tried, is to price airfare in your home country and then price the same ticket on the web site based overseas in the local currency. You can find arbitrage bargains. So, you could also examine the prices on Copa's web site in Panama, where its headquarters is based -- and also research whether it has a web site devoted to Argentina with prices in the Argentine Peso.
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Living/Staying
As a weekener in BA I can’t verify the neighbourhoods but I happen to live in the three places Crazy Jim mentioned - Palermo, Ricoleta and San Nicholas. The last being the most central and less hipster - think union square New York where you have endless flow of people.

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For LatAm standards Argentine sure looks depressed. I am sure Latino have lots of stories to tell about Argentinos and the winter didn’t help. For Latin standard Argentines are also more conservative/rigid. If a girl is willing to French kiss you, you have a 70% chance going home with her, but in Columbia you are likely to go home alone and meeting her for a second date. Of course this “rigidness” is relative chilled/fun to where some of us are from, however compared to Brazil then its less carnival-ish. For Asian guys, I realise there is comparitively more interest in us, they are bigger into K-pop, but of course it is not main stream, just a bigger niche which is still niche.

Economy
Whenever in a place I look for things such as if things are broken, and if they are do they get fixed. And if by following this standard I am sorry to say that for a country with good developing standards (not yet OECD but better than 90% of the world), Argentina might be in hell hole for some time. The grocery store doesn’t want to sell me things because his shift is up, the elevator at my apartment has been left broken for months, and internet connection at some places seems to be patchy. Argentine used to be a world top ten economy in the 60s or 70s, but it’s been far from its former glory sadly. And as some say, the struggle will continue with the likely IMF default.

As for safety, I’d say the three places o stay in are quite safe. People have their handphone out, bags carried by their back, and car windows open. All signs of a safe place. How long this will continue, who knows, as Crazy Jim has commented that not all places are that safe anymore.
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Argentines doing work that gets paid in dollars from abroad are now reporting their banks are being compelled to 'se pesifican' the incoming wires. That is after the recipient goes to the physical bank location with forms to claim the incoming transaction before it gets credited to their account at all. By the time anyone planning travel to Argentina gets there, the "official" and real exchange rate spreads are probably going to diverge enough to justify leaving the cards at home and doing an all cash trip.

It's hard to tell what the self identifying Peronists will do when they take office, but Macri seems determined to Venezuela up Argentina on his way out just to defend 55-60 pesos to the USD.
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I'm telling you man you should cash in on this spread, bring suitcases of greenbacks to Argentina, change to pesos at the blue rate in your favorite Chinese restaurant, then buy back dollars at the official rate. Try out your game while down here. Could literally be money for nothing and chicks for free
(09-06-2019 12:34 PM)BBinger Wrote:  Argentines doing work that gets paid in dollars from abroad are now reporting their banks are being compelled to 'se pesifican' the incoming wires. That is after the recipient goes to the physical bank location with forms to claim the incoming transaction before it gets credited to their account at all. By the time anyone planning travel to Argentina gets there, the "official" and real exchange rate spreads are probably going to diverge enough to justify leaving the cards at home and doing an all cash trip.

It's hard to tell what the self identifying Peronists will do when they take office, but Macri seems determined to Venezuela up Argentina on his way out just to defend 55-60 pesos to the USD.
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(09-06-2019 12:34 PM)BBinger Wrote:  Argentines doing work that gets paid in dollars from abroad are now reporting their banks are being compelled to 'se pesifican' the incoming wires. That is after the recipient goes to the physical bank location with forms to claim the incoming transaction before it gets credited to their account at all. By the time anyone planning travel to Argentina gets there, the "official" and real exchange rate spreads are probably going to diverge enough to justify leaving the cards at home and doing an all cash trip.

It's hard to tell what the self identifying Peronists will do when they take office, but Macri seems determined to Venezuela up Argentina on his way out just to defend 55-60 pesos to the USD.

That's poetic "Venezuela up Argentina". Don't cry for me this time.
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(09-06-2019 12:44 PM)Crazy Jim Wrote:  I'm telling you man you should cash in on this spread, bring suitcases of greenbacks to Argentina, change to pesos at the blue rate in your favorite Chinese restaurant, then buy back dollars at the official rate. Try out your game while down here. Could literally be money for nothing and chicks for free
(09-06-2019 12:34 PM)BBinger Wrote:  Argentines doing work that gets paid in dollars from abroad are now reporting their banks are being compelled to 'se pesifican' the incoming wires. That is after the recipient goes to the physical bank location with forms to claim the incoming transaction before it gets credited to their account at all. By the time anyone planning travel to Argentina gets there, the "official" and real exchange rate spreads are probably going to diverge enough to justify leaving the cards at home and doing an all cash trip.

It's hard to tell what the self identifying Peronists will do when they take office, but Macri seems determined to Venezuela up Argentina on his way out just to defend 55-60 pesos to the USD.

I'm rather allergic to Porteños and there's enough of them on this side of the river.

The problem with buying dollars at the official rate is the quota limits how far any one person can milk this pump into collapse. I have some friends in the Venezuelan exodus who are working to milk this the best they can, but the limiting factor is the poor availability of dollars to be bought at the official rate. I trust the folks working their big families at the official dollar distribution lines are getting this primed. The problem with "free money" arbitrage opportunities is that over time the market corrects them.

Anyways, with the quotas a coat pocket can easily hold all the benjies that could be run through with room to spare. Developing a network of trustworthy folk with nothing better to do than stand in bank lines doesn't appear to Vale la pena when folks on the ground there already have the networks.

As reality continues to be unfair to the Argentines, they will continue to thrash about implementing new capital controls and stealing more money. With the speed the Banco Nacional is implementing stupid new rules its easier to laugh with the Uruguayos and remind them that if they adopt Argentine policy they can explore new depths of poverty too.

I prefer to leave cashing in on this spread to the folks already inside Argentina that desperately need to try. I may take a shopping trip over there in a few months, but Uruguay keeps me fairly busy.
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I’ve been watching the inflation charts of most fucked fiat currencies and Argentina has been close behind Venezuela for a while. Not surprised to see this happen, but it is sad nonetheless. Thanks for the boots on the ground info. The spread between the real exchange rate and the official exchange rate will keep growing as well.
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I just got my airbnb ( Palermo ) canceled due to cut of gas services in whole building.
Of course, host can be lying, but lack of gas, electricity or watter are well known symptoms of real troubles in a country and usually just a begining of real troubles. Then, buying a property could be a really bad idea.

So, is here anybody who could prove/disprove this theory of lack of these resources in the country, or inability to pay for them?
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(09-06-2019 06:28 PM)Rik Wrote:  I just got my airbnb ( Palermo ) canceled due to cut of gas services in whole building.
Of course, host can be lying, but lack of gas, electricity or watter are well known symptoms of real troubles in a country and usually just a begining of real troubles. Then, buying a property could be a really bad idea.

So, is here anybody who could prove/disprove this theory of lack of these resources in the country, or inability to pay for them?

You just have to look at the inflation rate percentage of the Argentine peso. The market doesn’t lie, it just is.
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It's a localized problem with your building. My building still has gas. They may have cut off the gas to make repairs, not because there is no more gas or no money for gas. Or maybe they double-booked and the other guy paid more than you.
(09-06-2019 06:28 PM)Rik Wrote:  I just got my airbnb ( Palermo ) canceled due to cut of gas services in whole building.
Of course, host can be lying, but lack of gas, electricity or watter are well known symptoms of real troubles in a country and usually just a begining of real troubles. Then, buying a property could be a really bad idea.

So, is here anybody who could prove/disprove this theory of lack of these resources in the country, or inability to pay for them?
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Can someone tell me why I am being charged > 500 pesos service fee to withdraw pesos in local ATM? To make matters worse many ATM don’t support foreign visa or MasterCard.

I am asking this not to safe a few bucks, but to ask why is the Argentinian banking system is in such a state.
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(09-06-2019 09:33 PM)BalanceLife Wrote:  Can someone tell me why I am being charged > 500 pesos service fee to withdraw pesos in local ATM? To make matters worse many ATM don’t support foreign visa or MasterCard.

I am asking this not to safe a few bucks, but to ask why is the Argentinian banking system is in such a state.

It's because the banks in Argentina don't work, not when new capital controls are getting imposed several times a week. This is the poisonous fruit of socialismo and "samba sí, trabajo no", but more to the point... Despite certain other posters insisting "Just use and ATM, they just work" an entire set of problems Argentina had escaped from not that long ago are returning.

The Argentina that appear to just sorta work almost like a normal country which Macri had forced into being... its foundations were precarious. Precarious to the point Macri himself had to Christina himself some capital controls. I strongly suspect the banks don't know what they should be doing, because the rules are changing on them so incredibly fast.
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ICBC (and possibly other banks) will allow you to withdraw 8000 pesos each time, so that you can minimize the fee. Charles Schwab and possibly some other banks reimburse fees. I think most allow Visa atm cards
(09-06-2019 09:33 PM)BalanceLife Wrote:  Can someone tell me why I am being charged > 500 pesos service fee to withdraw pesos in local ATM? To make matters worse many ATM don’t support foreign visa or MasterCard.
It's not Argentina's banking system who does it, it is (((Globohomo))) and (((Goldstein)))
(09-06-2019 09:33 PM)BalanceLife Wrote:  I am asking this not to safe a few bucks, but to ask why is the Argentinian banking system is in such a state.
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(09-06-2019 11:12 PM)Crazy Jim Wrote:  ICBC (and possibly other banks) will allow you to withdraw 8000 pesos each time, so that you can minimize the fee. Charles Schwab and possibly some other banks reimburse fees. I think most allow Visa atm cards
(09-06-2019 09:33 PM)BalanceLife Wrote:  Can someone tell me why I am being charged > 500 pesos service fee to withdraw pesos in local ATM? To make matters worse many ATM don’t support foreign visa or MasterCard.
It's not Argentina's banking system who does it, it is (((Globohomo))) and (((Goldstein)))
(09-06-2019 09:33 PM)BalanceLife Wrote:  I am asking this not to safe a few bucks, but to ask why is the Argentinian banking system is in such a state.

Per the "official" rates the ATMS use 500 pesos Argentinos is between 9 and 10 USD. 8000 pesos Argentinos is just under 150 USD at the same official rate.

Argentina's problems are all self inflicted. There are problems in this world where bringing out your lisp (((( can help to clarify trends. Why is Gaza a prison camp? Why can't Druze soldiers that choose to enlist in the Israeli army be guaranteed a doctor who won't religiously object to treating them? Argentina's problems are way to clear to have any need at all to bring up (((them)) other than their common motive to divest from Argentina like everyone else. There are no US or EU sanctions. The markets reacted to indicators from Argentine democracy. You can either indict the Argentine people or Modern Democracy, but Argentina dug this hole.

Mr. Jim you joined this forum on August 15th and nearly 2/3rds of your contributions here are dispatches telling people the sky is not falling in Argentina. Well, the sky is indeed falling in Argentina. Preppers write and release themselves to fanfiction concerning the predicament you worked yourself into.

Wat do? Do you make peace with the chorros? Place yourself as Prince of the Pichis? Or do you keep responding to every bit of new news with "Hey guys, this is totally normal. We're just a bunch of frogs in some warm water. No way this water will ever make its way from current temperature to dangerously boiling"...
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I think you need to get laid lol. You're not even in Argentina and apparently you dislike Argentina and never intend to come here so I can't see why you're so hysterical about policy decisions by the Argentine government that none of us can change. When times are tough you just reach down and grab your nuts and soldier on. This is life in the third world, you must constantly deal with exchange rates, outages of utilities, and the like, if you want to come down here and use your 1st world passport to pick up chicks.
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(09-06-2019 11:12 PM)Crazy Jim Wrote:  ICBC (and possibly other banks) will allow you to withdraw 8000 pesos each time, so that you can minimize the fee. Charles Schwab and possibly some other banks reimburse fees. I think most allow Visa atm cards
(09-06-2019 09:33 PM)BalanceLife Wrote:  Can someone tell me why I am being charged > 500 pesos service fee to withdraw pesos in local ATM? To make matters worse many ATM don’t support foreign visa or MasterCard.
It's not Argentina's banking system who does it, it is (((Globohomo))) and (((Goldstein)))
(09-06-2019 09:33 PM)BalanceLife Wrote:  I am asking this not to safe a few bucks, but to ask why is the Argentinian banking system is in such a state.

Per the "official" rates the ATMS use 500 pesos Argentinos is between 9 and 10 USD. 8000 pesos Argentinos is just under 150 USD at the same official rate.

Argentina's problems are all self inflicted. There are problems in this world where bringing out your lisp (((( can help to clarify trends. Why is Gaza a prison camp? Why can't Druze soldiers that choose to enlist in the Israeli army be guaranteed a doctor who won't religiously object to treating them? Argentina's problems are way to clear to have any need at all to bring up (((them)) other than their common motive to divest from Argentina like everyone else. There are no US or EU sanctions. The markets reacted to indicators from Argentine democracy. You can either indict the Argentine people or Modern Democracy, but Argentina dug this hole.

Mr. Jim you joined this forum on August 15th and nearly 2/3rds of your contributions here are dispatches telling people the sky is not falling in Argentina. Well, the sky is indeed falling in Argentina. Preppers write and release themselves to fanfiction concerning the predicament you worked yourself into.

Wat do? Do you make peace with the chorros? Place yourself as Prince of the Pichis? Or do you keep responding to every bit of new news with "Hey guys, this is totally normal. We're just a bunch of frogs in some warm water. No way this water will ever make its way from current temperature to dangerously boiling"...
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(09-06-2019 10:07 PM)BBinger Wrote:  It's because the banks in Argentina don't work, not when new capital controls are getting imposed several times a week. This is the poisonous fruit of socialismo and "samba sí, trabajo no", but more to the point... Despite certain other posters insisting "Just use and ATM, they just work" an entire set of problems Argentina had escaped from not that long ago are returning.

The Argentina that appear to just sorta work almost like a normal country which Macri had forced into being... its foundations were precarious. Precarious to the point Macri himself had to Christina himself some capital controls. I strongly suspect the banks don't know what they should be doing, because the rules are changing on them so incredibly fast.

Well it’s true that Argentina, and truer even in Venezuela, people can only plan things weeks ahead. Anything beyond is an unknown.
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(09-06-2019 11:12 PM)Crazy Jim Wrote:  ICBC (and possibly other banks) will allow you to withdraw 8000 pesos each time, so that you can minimize the fee. Charles Schwab and possibly some other banks reimburse fees. I think most allow Visa atm cards
(09-06-2019 09:33 PM)BalanceLife Wrote:  Can someone tell me why I am being charged > 500 pesos service fee to withdraw pesos in local ATM? To make matters worse many ATM don’t support foreign visa or MasterCard.
It's not Argentina's banking system who does it, it is (((Globohomo))) and (((Goldstein)))
(09-06-2019 09:33 PM)BalanceLife Wrote:  I am asking this not to safe a few bucks, but to ask why is the Argentinian banking system is in such a state.

Ya man, it’s pretty crazy most of the banks’ ATM doesn’t allow foreign bank cards withdrawal, and those that do (Santander, National bank) charge a leg and an arm. A 517 peso surcharge on a maximum withdrawal of 8000 pesos. Of course for a short term tourist it doesn’t matter that much, but still....
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I haven't had a problem using my foreign cards at banks, maybe it has to do with what your bank allows? Some banks will reverse the charges. The surcharge is for foreign cards. I don't get it on my Argentine bank card. But it is indeed a pain to pay 500 pesos to withdraw 8000.
Just out of curiosity, wonder if you know that many banks have "autoservicio" machines for the bank's own customers to deposit money etc. Then there are also atm machines. "cajero automatico" is the atm. Wonder if maybe you're using the wrong machine? It's also not unusual a machine won't be working, but if you go to a bunch of banks and none work then I guess it isn't the machine.
(09-06-2019 09:33 PM)BalanceLife Wrote:  Ya man, it’s pretty crazy most of the banks’ ATM doesn’t allow foreign bank cards withdrawal, and those that do (Santander, National bank) charge a leg and an arm. A 517 peso surcharge on a maximum withdrawal of 8000 pesos. Of course for a short term tourist it doesn’t matter that much, but still....
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Maybe I am out of luck, in any case I’ve managed to find the “cajero autimatico” that works for me, thanks for pointing out!
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(09-06-2019 06:28 PM)Rik Wrote:  I just got my airbnb ( Palermo ) canceled due to cut of gas services in whole building.
Of course, host can be lying, but lack of gas, electricity or watter are well known symptoms of real troubles in a country and usually just a begining of real troubles. Then, buying a property could be a really bad idea.

So, is here anybody who could prove/disprove this theory of lack of these resources in the country, or inability to pay for them?

Was that airbnb a apartment? Could it be that there was a gas leak in the building. It is common that if that happens in the building, the gas company cut the gas and the building owners have to update the instalation to the modern regulation standards before getting the gas again. I know some cases were the building just changed to electric stoves/water heathers because updating the gas tubes and security mesures was just too expensive.


As for the "the sky is falling" in Argentina. We never left the crisis, and i am sure that with Fernandez-Fernandez things will be worse, but this is not a 2001-like situation.

I am already working in some "Plan B, C, D and E", but its more because of the politics. If the fucking deadbrain negros cabeza wants their social care money and subsided servicies, and wreack the country even more, be my guest, i will not pay for it with my money.

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Which Cryptos are currently popular and the most useful/accepted as SHTF money in Argentina?

Dash appears to be quite popular in Venezuela... Argentine regions like Patagonia with cool air temps and plenty of hydropower seem like natural BTC/BCH etc mining locations nearly equal to Iceland and Sweden - unless the socialists in govt are charging crazy high prices/taxes for electricity?

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(09-09-2019 11:09 AM)Deepdiver Wrote:  Which Cryptos are currently popular and the most useful/accepted as SHTF money in Argentina?

Dash appears to be quite popular in Venezuela... Argentine regions like Patagonia with cool air temps and plenty of hydropower seem like natural BTC/BCH etc mining locations nearly equal to Iceland and Sweden - unless the socialists in govt are charging crazy high prices/taxes for electricity?

Argentina is a net importer of electricity. The regional blackout earlier this year happened because someone messed up at one of the importing stations. The place with cheap hydropower is Paraguay. Paraguay shares some dams along their border with Brasil and they end up selling a big portion of their share. The problem with mining in Paraguay is that it gets hot.

Bitcoin works over here in Uruguay, I imagine there's more traders on the Argentine side of the river, but I've not yet had to dip into that liquidity pool. Just about anywhere you go the market for Bitcoin is going to be more developed.
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RE: Argentina public Service Announcement
(09-09-2019 10:20 AM)Mekorig Wrote:  
(09-06-2019 06:28 PM)Rik Wrote:  I just got my airbnb ( Palermo ) canceled due to cut of gas services in whole building.
Of course, host can be lying, but lack of gas, electricity or watter are well known symptoms of real troubles in a country and usually just a begining of real troubles. Then, buying a property could be a really bad idea.

So, is here anybody who could prove/disprove this theory of lack of these resources in the country, or inability to pay for them?

Was that airbnb a apartment? Could it be that there was a gas leak in the building. It is common that if that happens in the building, the gas company cut the gas and the building owners have to update the instalation to the modern regulation standards before getting the gas again. I know some cases were the building just changed to electric stoves/water heathers because updating the gas tubes and security mesures was just too expensive.


As for the "the sky is falling" in Argentina. We never left the crisis, and i am sure that with Fernandez-Fernandez things will be worse, but this is not a 2001-like situation.

I am already working in some "Plan B, C, D and E", but its more because of the politics. If the fucking deadbrain negros cabeza wants their social care money and subsided servicies, and wreack the country even more, be my guest, i will not pay for it with my money.

For however long Mercosure lasts in a Fernandez/Bolsonaro/Lacalle Pou/WhoeverInParaguay situation, you can still cross the river on you Cedulá in exchange for putting up with US-like food prices. And the whole 2013 tax treaty business that makes Argentine ID almost as repulsive to the local banks as US/FACTA does for US passports.

I suspect deeper misery is on the horizon than 2001, but I'm not a great fortune teller. Last summer's high season in Punta del Este supposedly was quiter than normal. This upcoming high season likely more so though quite a few of your more monied countrymen are looking to live there.

Not that Uruguay doesn't spend money on social programs, but the pain of borrowing to do so as a small country discourages that.
09-09-2019 02:26 PM
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