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A country poised for greatness that never came, many are feeling miserable because of that . Maybe it’s true that smart people are less happy the simple minded ones are happier, but I like to see happy faces.

Working attitude is just being average, things get fixed slow and people don’t plan ahead because there is not way to expect currency changes - either this or people get into a flurry of planning to beat some dateline of a new currency change.

Game-wise? People are excited to speak English even in areas like Santa Fe, Palermo, Ricoleta. So if you are an American / English / Aussie or with those accents it works in your favor. Girl quality I am rating it lower than Brazil maybe it’s just me but they are really the same but Argentina lacks abit of shine.

Most girls are European with a drop of indigenous blood, I’d say the mix is between 50% European/Indigenous to 100% European. There are also more indigenous looking people especially when you travel out of the capital.
09-10-2019 05:59 AM
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(09-10-2019 05:59 AM)BalanceLife Wrote:  A country poised for greatness that never came, many are feeling miserable because of that . Maybe it’s true that smart people are less happy the simple minded ones are happier, but I like to see happy faces.

Working attitude is just being average, things get fixed slow and people don’t plan ahead because there is not way to expect currency changes - either this or people get into a flurry of planning to beat some dateline of a new currency change.

A little of that, a little of decades of populist policies that keept a big number of the population numbed and dumb with "social assistance".

(09-10-2019 05:59 AM)BalanceLife Wrote:  Game-wise? People are excited to speak English even in areas like Santa Fe, Palermo, Ricoleta. So if you are an American / English / Aussie or with those accents it works in your favor. Girl quality I am rating it lower than Brazil maybe it’s just me but they are really the same but Argentina lacks abit of shine.

Around Santa Fe avenue, Palermo and Recoleta neighborhood, those are mid to high income areas, so you can expect a good level of english. The fursther you go from there, it goes lower.

(09-10-2019 05:59 AM)BalanceLife Wrote:  Most girls are European with a drop of indigenous blood, I’d say the mix is between 50% European/Indigenous to 100% European. There are also more indigenous looking people especially when you travel out of the capital.

Could say that in CABA you have greater numbers of almost pure european stock girls, with more admixture in the south of the city and the "Gran Buenos Aires". There you will see more amerindian blood, mostly from internal inmigrants from the north provinces and Bolivia/Paraguay/Peru. But in the provinces you can get very nice surprises with whole towns full of 100% european stock.

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(09-10-2019 05:59 AM)BalanceLife Wrote:  A country poised for greatness that never came

About 25 million Argentines have some degree of Italian ancestry in a total population of 40 million people. When you transplant a culture to another land, you will get roughly the same culture. So you get similar levels of social and political disfunction in Argentina as you do in Italy. Italy is also typically a political and economic basket case. Argentina is basically Italy without any industrious Northern Italians.
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(09-10-2019 12:50 PM)Tail Gunner Wrote:  
(09-10-2019 05:59 AM)BalanceLife Wrote:  A country poised for greatness that never came

About 25 million Argentines have some degree of Italian ancestry in a total population of 40 million people. When you transplant a culture to another land, you will get roughly the same culture. So you get similar levels of social and political disfunction in Argentina as you do in Italy. Italy is also typically a political and economic basket case. Argentina is basically Italy without any industrious Northern Italians.

More importantly though, "Argentina is basically Italy without" Lampedusa and Africa near its shores. It makes all the difference, as will become obvious in the coming years.

Also, BBinger pointed to the real indicator regarding the economic situation, and, it's tourism in Punta, or Mardel. Don't believe that the sky is falling as long as you'll see beaches full of "poor, depressed" local tourists having fun and a relax "mate".

Also, crazy_Jim being banned, probably means we've lost the famous "King of Belgra(no)d", but he'll surely be back. Best of luck anyway to him and all travellers to the beautiful (and still wealthy) country of Argentina!
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(09-10-2019 12:50 PM)Tail Gunner Wrote:  
(09-10-2019 05:59 AM)BalanceLife Wrote:  A country poised for greatness that never came

About 25 million Argentines have some degree of Italian ancestry in a total population of 40 million people. When you transplant a culture to another land, you will get roughly the same culture. So you get similar levels of social and political disfunction in Argentina as you do in Italy. Italy is also typically a political and economic basket case. Argentina is basically Italy without any industrious Northern Italians.

100%. The second most popular destination for Italians to immigrate to behind the USA was Argentina.
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(09-10-2019 02:13 PM)Going strong Wrote:  More importantly though, "Argentina is basically Italy without" Lampedusa and Africa near its shores. It makes all the difference, as will become obvious in the coming years.

It has other neighbours.

Argentina is not in a good state, but her neighbours keep coming. The neighbours might be in worse shape bar Chile. But I don’t know I have not say foot in the neighbour countries.

(09-10-2019 02:13 PM)Going strong Wrote:  Also, BBinger pointed to the real indicator regarding the economic situation, and, it's tourism in Punta, or Mardel. Don't believe that the sky is falling as long as you'll see beaches full of "poor, depressed" local tourists having fun and a relax "mate".

Based on the indicator the sky may never fall.

(09-10-2019 02:13 PM)Going strong Wrote:  Also, crazy_Jim being banned, probably means we've lost the famous "King of Belgra(no)d", but he'll surely be back. Best of luck anyway to him and all travellers to the beautiful (and still wealthy) country of Argentina!

I am starting to miss Crazy Jim, can we have him back?
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(09-10-2019 09:20 PM)BalanceLife Wrote:  
(09-10-2019 02:13 PM)Going strong Wrote:  More importantly though, "Argentina is basically Italy without" Lampedusa and Africa near its shores. It makes all the difference, as will become obvious in the coming years.

It has other neighbours.

Argentina is not in a good state, but her neighbours keep coming. The neighbours might be in worse shape bar Chile. But I don’t know I have not say foot in the neighbour countries.

Chile, Brazil, Paraguay, and Uruguay are all in better shape than Argentina economically and politically. I am not sure about Bolivia. In South America, I think that only Venezuela is definitively worse off economically than Argentina.

The more socialism in your country, the worse off you are. It is quite funny how that works out.

It is even more funny how some cultures refuse to learn the lessons of history.
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(09-10-2019 09:20 PM)BalanceLife Wrote:  
(09-10-2019 02:13 PM)Going strong Wrote:  Also, BBinger pointed to the real indicator regarding the economic situation, and, it's tourism in Punta, or Mardel. Don't believe that the sky is falling as long as you'll see beaches full of "poor, depressed" local tourists having fun and a relax "mate".

Based on the indicator the sky may never fall.

Tourism from Argentina to Uruguay was noticeably down last January through February. There was much wailing in the local press about this. Pre-season in Punta del Este is still a couple months off.

The Argentines looking at Punta del Este are looking to move there to live full time which... seems to follow the usual poor decision making. Most of the year Punta del Este is boring and the few weeks it isn't boring its a giant party and prices jump. One of the local memes during the high season is posting prices from elsewhere in the country and super imposing it next to the same product from the same chain store in Punta del Este.

I'm guessing the question coming up in January is do the few Argentines making the Punta pilgrimage go back to Argentina or do they try the expat thing.

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(09-10-2019 09:20 PM)BalanceLife Wrote:  
(09-10-2019 02:13 PM)Going strong Wrote:  More importantly though, "Argentina is basically Italy without" Lampedusa and Africa near its shores. It makes all the difference, as will become obvious in the coming years.

It has other neighbours.

Argentina is not in a good state, but her neighbours keep coming. The neighbours might be in worse shape bar Chile. But I don’t know I have not say foot in the neighbour countries.

Chile, Brazil, Paraguay, and Uruguay are all in better shape than Argentina economically and politically. I am not sure about Bolivia. In South America, I think that only Venezuela is definitively worse off economically than Argentina.

The more socialism in your country, the worse off you are. It is quite funny how that works out.

It is even more funny how some cultures refuse to learn the lessons of history.

Every single one of Argentina's neighbors are doing better than Argentina.

Even Paraguay which had supplied the majority of immigrants to Argentina for quite a number of years is getting good growth and attracting industry. Brasileros are putting up factories in Paraguay because Paraguay is actively welcoming industry. Paraguay hasn't arrived yet, but its on an upswing.

Uruguay's been slowing down and its unemployment is going up, but the upcoming election looks like it is going to the other side of the spectrum.
October 27th Argentina gets left wing Kirchnerismo/Peronismo while the polls suggest Uruguay is going to get right-ish wing Herrerrismo in the form of the White/National Party's Louis Lacalle Pou in the Presidency and a coalition of currently opposition parties in Parliament. Things here might get ugly in the short term, but the fundamentals are here for improvement.

Brasil and Argentina spent the 20th century doing completely different things. Brasil has long carried a bigger population burden then Argentina, but Brasil put in effort building industry. Brasil has a space program. Brasil has Embraer. Brasil has some other aerospace going on. Argentina never managed to replace agriculture with industry as its economic core. And Bolsonaro appears to be getting interesting things done despite the masses thrashing about in protest.
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(09-10-2019 11:51 PM)BBinger Wrote:  Every single one of Argentina's neighbors are doing better than Argentina.

What about Bolivia? I have to admit that I know very little about Bolivia, other than Evo Morales is a socialist who nationalized some private property.

I have seen foreign investments offered in Chile, Brazil, Paraguay, Uruguay, and even Argentina. I have never seen any foreign investments offered in Bolivia.
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(09-10-2019 11:57 PM)Tail Gunner Wrote:  
(09-10-2019 11:51 PM)BBinger Wrote:  Every single one of Argentina's neighbors are doing better than Argentina.

What about Bolivia? I have to admit that I know very little about Bolivia, other than Evo Morales is a socialist who nationalized some private property.

I have seen foreign investments offered in Chile, Brazil, Paraguay, Uruguay, and even Argentina. I have never seen any foreign investments offered in Bolivia.

They probably still export cocaine. I have to confess, Boliva never really caught my interest enough to follow.
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(09-11-2019 05:44 AM)BBinger Wrote:  
(09-10-2019 11:57 PM)Tail Gunner Wrote:  
(09-10-2019 11:51 PM)BBinger Wrote:  Every single one of Argentina's neighbors are doing better than Argentina.

What about Bolivia? I have to admit that I know very little about Bolivia, other than Evo Morales is a socialist who nationalized some private property.

I have seen foreign investments offered in Chile, Brazil, Paraguay, Uruguay, and even Argentina. I have never seen any foreign investments offered in Bolivia.

They probably still export cocaine. I have to confess, Boliva never really caught my interest enough to follow.

There's foreign investment in Bolivia. State-level, massive foreign investment, carried out by China for example, or Russia, notably to secure a commodity necessary to make electronics.

And there's private investment too, in particular in or around Santa Cruz. Private investment that, er, needs, say, a nice swift laundering process.
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And the split between the unofficial and official exchange rates is starting to break out.

Have fun, but once again... remember to bring paper dollars. Or cross the river to hit up the Uruguayo ATMs and their benjies.
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(Today 04:15 PM)BBinger Wrote:  And the split between the unofficial and official exchange rates is starting to break out.

Have fun, but once again... remember to bring paper dollars. Or cross the river to hit up the Uruguayo ATMs and their benjies.

Systematic risk doesn’t lie. Can’t keep up the charade forever.
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