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I do one long and two short fast a year and they do wonders for my mind and body, especially long fasts.

Long fasts are great unless you are underweight. If you are underweight then a short few days fast is better for you.

Fasting is great for everything. Within 24–48 hours fasting, your body will have burned through all of its glycinate (sugar) and you will go into a state of ketosis and burn ketone bodies that are generated from your fat storage. The 2nd and 3rd day of fasting are the toughest because your body is adjusting and you will feel hungry and may get headaches but by the 4th and 5th days, your body will lessen the production of Ghrelin, the hunger hormone and you will feel like you could go on fasting forever and you could actually go for months if you have enough fat storage. The record is 391 days.

When starting a fast you will first notice a putrid tasting white film on your tongue that needs to be cleaned off several times a day, this is just toxin released through the tongue and this will last for over 10 days if not longer. Your skin and perspiration will also smell really bad. Many people break their longterm fast after the tongue gets clean again as it is an indicator that you are detoxified.

What you will also notice is increased energy since you are now burning ketone bodies which are the best fuel source for the muscles, organs, and brain. Your mind will become crystal clear, your I.Q. will go up and all depression and anxieties go away since fasting is the greatest and fastest way to lower chronic inflammation which is the root cause of long-term, mild depression. You might feel so much energy that it will be hard to sleep and if so, there is no harm in working out. This is fasting not starvation.

You will lose a lot of weight, up to 2lb a day and your body will go into autophagy, meaning your body will start eating away dead and unneeded cells for food. So scars, acne, skin tags blemishes, stretch marks will fade and most likely disappear completely, your skin will be glowing. Autophagy also eats away tumors, cysts, and bad bacteria in the gut too. Fasting will reset your metabolism. I do a 21 day fast and came out of it a new man each time.
08-30-2019 08:52 AM
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Fasting is cutting on cheat mode.

I go for 23-25 hours a day and eat one meal.

I’m also in my 40s and shredded up like a motherfucker.

For years I banged my head against a brick wall, desperate for 6 pack abs.

Every fucking diet under the sun and to no avail.

Why?

I never learned to control hunger. I created the environment to be hungry several times a day.

Counting calories like some neurotic pussy. I’m sure I almost sprouted a vag, obsessing over ‘macros’.

Now I work out while in a fasted state, torching body fat, with no drop in performance.

Fasting is life.
08-30-2019 09:33 AM
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Everything in moderation, as Aristotle advised in Nicomachean Ethics and what was repeated by many other sages. Brain and body require nutrients but with some tweaks, one can optimise for healthspan, memory, mood and other benefits. I follow Fast Mimicking Diet by Professor Longo and findings of Professor Matt Mattson of National Health Institute, whereby calories restriction activities keton bodies, organism mops up toxic debris and wasted cells, possibly activates synapsogenesis and a slew of other benefits. Professor Mattson's and others' research widely available on the internet.
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(08-30-2019 12:43 PM)ksbms Wrote:  Everything in moderation, as Aristotle advised in Nicomachean Ethics and what was repeated by many other sages.

Thanks ksbms,

I have found this to be the best advice for just about every area in life. Moderation in moderation too.

If we look at the past people did not eat 3 times or even two times a day and this is going back as little as 60 or 70 years ago. I read that morning breakfast was a marketing campaign.

I am discovering that three meals a day is for is not good --we need episodes of hunger punctuated brief by periods of replenishing. Hunger improves insulin sensitivity, brain function, etc. So it is a good idea to, counterintuitively, fast on days when we need the energy, rather than the opposite. Our Platonic "make sense" indicates that you need to "eat well" during a period of physical stress --the opposite holds true empirically: fasting chemo patients do much much better. Without actual testing, every cancer patient has been told to "eat well but not excessively".

The same applies to thirst.

I have not seen much on the subject in the literature, but I am also realizing that stochastic sleeping periods might be good for us. I have been traveling on red-eye flights and went through such memorable experiences as a whole night standing at Narita airport (there were no seats available and I needed to stay near the gate). After a sleepless night. I always manage to catch up, as I design my own schedule. I am now discovering that sleep if vastly more enjoyable after periods of deprivation much like the taste of water under extreme thirst.
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Fasting is the healthiest thing you can do. I have done several 48 hour fasts and they are a great way to detox and kill off your toxic cells/burn fat.
08-30-2019 08:54 PM
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(08-30-2019 09:33 AM)Irn Bru Protein Wrote:  Fasting is cutting on cheat mode.

I go for 23-25 hours a day and eat one meal.

Can you elaborate a bit, what does your fasting regime look like?
08-31-2019 04:47 AM
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I did a 21 day water fast a few months ago.
08-31-2019 05:41 AM
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Not much to add

I usually eat a protein/fat heavy meal.

Usually a big salad with chilli or some shit

Followed by some chicken thighs

Then Greek yoghurt.

Takes about 30 mins to eat. I then fast for 23-25 hours depending on work schedule.
09-02-2019 02:12 PM
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There's been research on the neurological benefits of fasting.

Quote:Our data lead us to speculate that sporadic fasting might represent a simple, safe and inexpensive means to promote this potentially therapeutic neuronal response.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3106288/

The more I read and experience first hand, the more I realize that overfeeding leads to all kinds of health problems.
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I like fasting, a lot, to be honest... It's so simple, just don't eat... It gives me more time to do other things instead of thinking what I'll eat, when I'm gonna eat it, how and where I'm going to eat it, how I'll prepare it etc etc etc

The only thing I don't like about fasting is that I'm probably also doing a too big of a calorie restriction because of the skipped meals. I try to eat as much as before I started Intermittent Fasting but I don't snack as much as back then. Then again I look a lot more leaner then before the fasting, so that's a plus. I should measure myself more to see if I have muscle loss...

For the fasting I usually do Intermittent fasting while alternating between OMAD and 2MAD... In the weekends it happens I skip the fasting and indulge in a binge fest, although I've noticed this happens less and less. My food choices, which were already on point, have also improved even more. I think the nastiest thing I eat nowadays is Muesli with Greek Yoghurt and some Honey for dessert or salted nuts as an appetizer...

But about the alternating fasting schedule, I haven't invented that, it's something I read about in Siim Land's Metabolic Autophagy. In that book he wrote a monthly schedule which I like a lot. Thanks to sticking to that schedule I'm again doing more cardio and rediscovered Yoga. I really liked the book. It's not about getting big it's about finding a balance between growing and ageing well. I highly recommend it...

What I don't really like about the book is the keto/low carb dietary recommendations. It's just not for me, I really enjoy carbs from time to time. I try to eat low carb but it's probably not low enough (yet). I don't eat bread or pasta but I do enjoy some potatoes, bulgur, quinoa etc

What I haven't done yet is an extended fast. Longest I went was +- 36 hours... It's hard to fast when you have a kid... I don't want him to see me skipping meals because the kid will say if dad can skip a meal I can skip it too... The little one still has a lot more growing to do then I have so that's a nono. But yeah I get that fasting also has spiritual/religious links... You get another state of mind when you're fasting. It's your brain running on ketones that makes you feel... different. Sharper, in the zone... I really like that feeling, but I don't like the keto breath Smile
09-09-2019 03:41 PM
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I recently fasted for a period of one month, eating only once per day. So a bunch of 24 hr fasts in other words. Won't lie, felt like crap. But I gained a better understanding of my hunger impulses, and started to take steps to control them. Lost a ton of weight.

I worry though, that it makes me lethargic, and I don't like to do it when I'm working strenuously.

Anyway, think fasting is a good option, but I don't think it's gonna be a miracle solution like some say.
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(08-30-2019 09:33 AM)Irn Bru Protein Wrote:  Fasting is cutting on cheat mode.

I go for 23-25 hours a day and eat one meal.

I’m also in my 40s and shredded up like a motherfucker.

For years I banged my head against a brick wall, desperate for 6 pack abs.

Every fucking diet under the sun and to no avail.

Why?

I never learned to control hunger. I created the environment to be hungry several times a day.

Counting calories like some neurotic pussy. I’m sure I almost sprouted a vag, obsessing over ‘macros’.

Now I work out while in a fasted state, torching body fat, with no drop in performance.

Fasting is life.

I second that. I am 37, and have been for most of my life in decent shape and cardiovascular capacity, but always struggled with having visible abs, even while working out 1-2 hours daily 5 times a week for most of my 20's and early 30's.

Now although I am in a state where I am not working out at all, just simple stretches and physiotherapy, I am lean like never before. Eating one meal a day, only beef, eggs, cheese and butter.

I did a 7 day fast, only drinking water, back in Lent in April, from Sunday to Easter Sunday. By the 6th day I was doing 16km on a bicycle pulling my baby daughter asleep in a trailer, feeling as energized as ever.

Lost 8 pounds (from 171 down to 163 lbs, on a 6'2" frame) during the 7 days, and regained 5 lbs by the 3rd day after resuming eating.

The senses become extremely sensitive during a long fast. My sense of smell was heightened to the point where I could distinguish the salad dressing and everything else in other people's meals in the office. Vision and ability to concentrate are improved as well. Kind of like a hunter on the prowl. It was amazing. I will repeat it every Lent, plus a 2nd 7 day fast likely in November or December.

Eating one meal a day also makes it natural to skip a day or 2 of meals. I go on 3 days fast with ease on occasion when it is inconvenient to eat while out and about with my family and I have no access to good beef, eggs and cheese.

(09-09-2019 04:56 PM)Chads Day Off Wrote:  I recently fasted for a period of one month, eating only once per day. So a bunch of 24 hr fasts in other words. Won't lie, felt like crap. But I gained a better understanding of my hunger impulses, and started to take steps to control them. Lost a ton of weight.

I worry though, that it makes me lethargic, and I don't like to do it when I'm working strenuously.

Anyway, think fasting is a good option, but I don't think it's gonna be a miracle solution like some say.
If you binge on carbohydrates on those meals, it would not surprise me that you feel weak, drowsy or hungry in between meals while eating one meal a day. Carbohydrates are your enemy. They increase your insulin and prevent you from going into ketosis, which is the natural state your body prefers to work.

Only in modern day life humans have this abundance of carbohydrates and the so-called well-balanced diet.
There is nothing to balance when you eat nutrient dense food as meat and animal source foods. They are all the body needs.

Vegetables and fruits are like candies, an acquired taste that is the source of gluttony.

It is impossible to binge eat on meat. My body screams "I am done!" after a certain amount because the fats trigger saciety, while carbs put you in permanent hunger as your insulin goes up and down.

Still, after I am completely full and cannot bear to look at my beef, I can 100% stuff myself on shortbread cookies and ice cream. All it takes is saying to one self: "no, thank you".

Carbohydrates are a vice and need to be controlled and policed by us like cigarettes, alcohol, sex and all impulses that lead to a degenerate lifestyle, ridden with sickness of body, mind and spirit.
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