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If some guy is so clueless that his first flag that something is wrong is "came home to an empty house" then it's a miracle he had any assets in the first place.

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(09-04-2019 04:07 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  If some guy is so clueless that his first flag that something is wrong is "came home to an empty house" then it's a miracle he had any assets in the first place.

Crypto currency autist who thinks he can outsmart BPD / NPD women or who thinks "street smarts" (scumbag tier thinking / manipulation of random people to get what you want) is an asset in someone.

One of the most important rules a father should teach his son: Don't associate with scumbags - male or female. They will drag you down on their level, try to turn you into a scumbag as well and fuck you over / use you as a fall guy for their crimes.
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(09-04-2019 04:18 AM)iThinkThereforeIam Wrote:  
(09-04-2019 04:07 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  If some guy is so clueless that his first flag that something is wrong is "came home to an empty house" then it's a miracle he had any assets in the first place.

Crypto currency autist who thinks he can outsmart BPD / NPD women or who thinks "street smarts" (scumbag tier thinking / manipulation of random people to get what you want) is an asset in someone.

One of the most important rules a father should teach his son: Don't associate with scumbags - male or female. They will drag you down on their level, try to turn you into a scumbag as well and fuck you over / use you as a fall guy for their crimes.

The number of manipulative women outclass the few psychopath men by a factor of 100 at least. The manipulative men prey on truly super-rich older women or they are often psychopaths who succeed in their normal endeavors anyway.

He was likely seeing her hot ass and brushed away her former experiences as "being in the past". Meanwhile she only saw him this way from Day 1:

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(09-03-2019 07:13 PM)tugofpeace Wrote:  
(09-03-2019 07:01 PM)sanbruno Wrote:  You can’t even protect yourself. Friend’s brother had one of those “power couple” marriages... Both had corporate hot shot jobs when they got married and agreed to keep alot separate in a pre-nup. Pre-nup was thrown out in divorce because even a hot, corporate VP sniper can cry female victimhood to the right judge.

How can prenups just be thrown out? And why can't you just gift all your savings to your mom/dad/sibling (whom you trust more than your wife) instead of relying on some shitty prenup?

And it makes me wonder, what kind of women are these guys marrying in the first place..

Never worked a day in her life. Why the fuck would you marry a girl like that in this day and age with the courts biased towards women how they are?

Exactly.

I hate this circle-jerking of men, playing the victim all the time and going full MGTOW.
99% of cases we see in this thread are from men that have poor judgment and did ignore all the red flags. But yeah, if a man marry Stacy the Tinder girl and she fucks you up after marriage, its: "ALL WOMEN ARE WHORES IM A VICTIMG" mentality.

Let's see it the other way. When a woman gets physically abused in her marriage and then she cries: "ALL MEN ARE BAD IM A VICTIM HE WAS SUCH A NICE GUY I DIDNT KNOW HE HATES WOMEN", what would you say to her?

People do not change in general. No one ever, beside of psychopaths (which are actualy very rare) will do a 180 turn and suddenly abuse you, or steal your kids and money and say goodbye out of nowhere. It does simply not happen.


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Quote:If some guy is so clueless that his first flag that something is wrong is "came home to an empty house" then it's a miracle he had any assets in the first place.

This poor victim mentality in men, marrying a fucking twat is getting on my balls.......


Let me show you a man, that was "getting fucked" after marriage as "he found out suddenly", that his wife isn't that great. Do you think this man is a poor little victim from evil women? You be the judge:


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Psychopaths are not particularly rare, and people do in fact change. It also takes time for a single individual to experience the variety of human behavior that is out there, which includes the chameleons, gaslighting BPDers, and so on. If you haven't taken in the accumulated wisdom of a community that has your best interests at heart, then you risk losing everything during the learning process. And men these days don't have wisdom regarding women and marriage passed on to them by a community that is looking out for them. The opposite, in fact, is the case.

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(09-04-2019 05:58 AM)RawGod Wrote:  Psychopaths are not particularly rare, and people do in fact change.

Wrong. Real Psychopaths are very rare. What you think is a psychopath, are just men cant seeing the red flags over and over again. Just saying: "I couldn't know my wife was a psychopath" is people not standing up and taking self-ownership.





Anthon's wife was a whore and fucked countless of men on the side. Instead of standing up and saying: "I fucked it up, I didn't see the red flags cause she was hot", he goes full hamstring mode like women do and blame it on her being a psychopath and "he had 0 chance to know" before marrying her.

I know people here don't like Stefan Molyneux for some reason, but he has a lot of good knowledge out there, what to ask a woman when you dating her. It's not about sticking your pee-pee inside of her, its a job interview. How many men that married a "psychopath" did ask the right questions? How is your relationship with your father? How was your childhood? Do you want to have kids? What are your best friends like? How did your last relationship end? Do you believe in God? If not, why?

You think Anthony asked all these questions, or he just stuck his pee pee inside of her as fast as possible?
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We all know the state will screw men over every chance they get. The reason is simple power dynamics.

No one fears Western Man. Western Man is morally, emotionally and politically weak. The American man makes gun ownership a political battle-ground, but when he is being ass-raped by the state, still he is incapable of using his god-given power.

I know we are not supposed to talk about illegal actions here, but it is very simple, and I think it's important to make the point. If you slap someone once, and they do nothing, then you will probably slap them again, again they do nothing, next time you punch them, still they do nothing, well, you know where this is going.

All women and all modern states will screw men over unless men are willing to fight for their freedom. Simple.

So, you got fucked over by the woman and the state, so what did you do to them? Did you hurt them back? No. Without causing pain and suffering to our enemies, this situation will continue indefinitely, no point complaining about it for the 1000th time, it is the same everytime.

I havent really researched all the different ways a man can hurt the state, or the woman who screwed him over, but I know there are limitless opportunities, many without the man even being caught. Men need to ask themselves how did I get some revenge? Not "why am I such a victim"?

Anyways, I am not asking men to do anything like that, just saying that historically, men were not so cucked that they feared prison, social ostracization etc such that men do today. Men's inability to hurt those who hurt them is the biggest cause of this problem, not women and not the state (both seem to be doing quite well for themselves).

Whether its 10 years, or 500 years, this thing will ultimately return to men taking individual or group actions against the state. Regression to the mean.

Also, if anyone wants to respond to this, please calm down, I dont mean to be trolling, its just that I have seen men alot more willing to fight for their rights in other countries but this seems comparatively minimal in Anglo societies currently.
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(09-04-2019 05:20 AM)Simeon_Strangelight Wrote:  The number of manipulative women outclass the few psychopath men by a factor of 100 at least. The manipulative men prey on truly super-rich older women or they are often psychopaths who succeed in their normal endeavors anyway.

Funny you should say that. A few examples came to mind.

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Quote:I know we are not supposed to talk about illegal actions here, but it is very simple, and I think it's important to make the point. If you slap someone once, and they do nothing, then you will probably slap them again, again they do nothing, next time you punch them, still they do nothing, well, you know where this is going.

All women and all modern states will screw men over unless men are willing to fight for their freedom. Simple.

So, you got fucked over by the woman and the state, so what did you do to them? Did you hurt them back? No. Without causing pain and suffering to our enemies, this situation will continue indefinitely, no point complaining about it for the 1000th time, it is the same everytime.



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(09-04-2019 12:07 AM)[email protected] Wrote:  You guys still believe in The Law which is blue pill. You need to off shore your marriage and/or money. I can't understand the idea of leaving your fate in the hands of third party you know will destroy you. Don't even give them the chance.

That's exactly my thinking! Some men on this thread want to Beta to the ground this guy from the story to assuage their own anxiety onto him! The bottom line is, as stated by burner...the Law is Blue Pill... and the law Supersedes Alpha and Betas. Of course being Alpha greatly reduces the chances... but by how much? Since we can't put a # on it... it's officially an OPINION. An opinion that I believe in... but still an opinion!

If they catch you hiding assets... who cares! They were going to take it away from you anyway! If you get married (and I will one day) It's Go Big or Go Home 4 me. Never forget that Men are the loving sex... and women are the cold blooded one! What's the #1 rule of combat sport: You Must Protect Yourself At All Times! Same with Marriage
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(09-04-2019 09:35 AM)Captain Gh Wrote:  
(09-04-2019 12:07 AM)[email protected] Wrote:  You guys still believe in The Law which is blue pill. You need to off shore your marriage and/or money. I can't understand the idea of leaving your fate in the hands of third party you know will destroy you. Don't even give them the chance.

That's exactly my thinking! Some men on this thread want to Beta to the ground this guy from the story to assuage their own anxiety onto him! The bottom line is, as stated by burner...the Law is Blue Pill... and the law Supersedes Alpha and Betas. Of course being Alpha greatly reduces the chances... but by how much? Since we can't put a # on it... it's officially an OPINION. An opinion that I believe in... but still an opinion!

If they catch you hiding assets... who cares! They were going to take it away from you anyway! If you get married (and I will one day) It's Go Big or Go Home 4 me. Never forget that Men are the loving sex... and women are the cold blooded one! What's the #1 rule of combat sport: You Must Protect Yourself At All Times! Same with Marriage

Exactly, there is no law. You have to win the battles at home, and then if you lose, the judges now don't seem to be bound by the law in family court but more or less their whims.

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(09-04-2019 10:54 AM)Dr. Howard Wrote:  Exactly, there is no law. You have to win the battles at home, and then if you lose, the judges now don't seem to be bound by the law in family court but more or less their whims.

This, 100%.

See my post below from the Divorce Corp thread (go read the whole thing, and then watch the documentary - it's terrifying but a must-watch):

(04-15-2014 09:43 PM)Isaac Jordan Wrote:  Just finished watching this. Definitely worth a view, very powerful stuff.

What really amazed me was not just how much money is involved in the system (hint: tens of billions of dollars), but how incestuously intertwined the system is:

-Family court judges can appoint "evaluators" or even additional lawyers at will to a party's case and then force the litigant to pay their (often outrageous) fees. If the litigant doesn't pay, the judge can throw them in jail. And there's no jury-the judge is the sole determinant of the divorce proceedings. Got a sweet prenup? Doesn't matter if the judge doesn't like it. He's basically a vindictive teenager with a giant magnifying glass, and you are a teeny tiny insignificant powerless little ant.

-Attorneys regularly donate to the campaigns of their local court judges, and are statistically more likely to win a case involving a judge to whom they've donated (duh).

-Due to a lack of conflict of interest laws, a family court judge can retire on Monday, be hired as a consulting attorney by a local divorce law firm Tuesday, then quit and go back to being a judge Wednesday. Even worse, he could theoretically (and is actually pretty likely) to see attorneys that were on Tuesday his coworkers back in court Wednesday as litigators. This scenario is apparently rather common for retiring family court judges.

-Divorce attorneys often work in tandem to draw out cases as long as possible in order to rack up fees. If one side starts slinging mud, the other side pretty much has to respond in kind lest they lose and are forced to pay massive financial penalties. Children often end up being used as pawns, as child support can in many cases be worth more than alimony (and you don't have to pay taxes on child support).

-The state legislatures dole out money to the family courts based on metrics like case load and report filings. The longer and more difficult it becomes to wrap up a divorce, the more reports have to be filed, and the more third-party consultants and evaluators have to be involved (leading to more reports and work for the clerks), thereby increasing the amount of money the court system needs to operate. So basically, as the divorce process becomes longer and more complicated, everyone involved makes more money (except, of course, for those actually getting the divorce). There are zero incentives to enhance the efficiency or fairness of the system.

-The family court system is technically designated a "court of equity," as opposed to a court of law, and the regulatory agencies and checks and balances that exist to prevent courts of law from gaining too much power don't really exist for the family court system.

I always figured I'd settle down in my late thirties/early forties in order to raise a family, and while I knew marriage was a raw deal for men, I thought that if I did my prep work beforehand (moved/hid assets, drafted an amazing prenup, etc.) and expected to get divorced at some point, I could at least handle it should it occur. Hope for the best but expect the worst, that sort of thing. I thought that while most men get screwed because they never dream of getting served with divorce papers, that if I hedged my bets I'd be alright.

After seeing this film, though, there's just no way I'm getting married in the U.S. No fucking way. I want nothing to do with that system. No amount of prep work is worth the risk. I'll look into marriage outside the country, perhaps, or see if I can raise children with a woman without being looped into a common-law marriage. But after seeing this, any sort of marriage in the U.S. is no longer an option whatsoever.
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(09-03-2019 09:57 PM)Captainstabbin Wrote:  
(09-03-2019 09:46 PM)DogLover Wrote:  If you take the right steps, which sometimes includes having the pre-nup signing witnessed by a retired judge and even video-taped, with the judge saying "You understand that if you get divorced, for any reason, you're only getting $XX dollars?", you have a very good chance of having the pre-nup sustained.

Now child support...that's an IED you can't protect yourself from!

Even then, aren't assets earned during the marriage considered marital property (and subject to a 50/50 split minimum) unless it's an inheritance?

Depends on the state, but generally. BUT, I believe you can contract that away in a pre-nup, i.e., to say any earnings of the individual parties during the course of the marriage belong solely to the person earning them. You're still going to need to give her SOMETHING. If you're worth $2MM, you're going to likely need to give her $100K -200K in case of a divorce. You need the judge to be able to look at this and say "You knew what you were getting when you signed this, and there was substantial consideration involved for you". But, if executed properly, there's a good chance you can sustain a prenup and not lose half or more of what you own.

NOW, bear in mind that if she challenges the pre-nup in court, you're still going to need to hire an attorney to defend against that, and even if you prevail you will still need to pay attorneys fees, which in some parts of the country can be astronomical. So, the most low-cost solution will always be to not marry and not cohabitate. That can be lonely, however. My recommendation is that, if you are seeking companionship, to cohabitate with (or even marry) someone who adores you and wants to be with you, who sees themselves as marrying up. Asian or latino secretaries often look at their white, professional husbands this way. Their sisters and friends married Jose the maintenance man from Peru; they see you, the office professional, as a step up. AND THEN, on top of that, get an iron-clad pre-nup or cohabitation agreement.
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(09-04-2019 12:42 AM)Eazy_E Wrote:  Hell, it happened to Tom Arnold in True Lies and that was 1994. She even took the ice cube trays out of the freezer. What kind of a sick bitch takes the ice cube trays out of the freezer?

But they were a set!
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(09-04-2019 06:43 AM)Chiosboy90 Wrote:  
(09-04-2019 05:58 AM)RawGod Wrote:  Psychopaths are not particularly rare, and people do in fact change.

Wrong. Real Psychopaths are very rare. What you think is a psychopath, are just men cant seeing the red flags over and over again. Just saying: "I couldn't know my wife was a psychopath" is people not standing up and taking self-ownership.





Anthon's wife was a whore and fucked countless of men on the side. Instead of standing up and saying: "I fucked it up, I didn't see the red flags cause she was hot", he goes full hamstring mode like women do and blame it on her being a psychopath and "he had 0 chance to know" before marrying her.

I know people here don't like Stefan Molyneux for some reason, but he has a lot of good knowledge out there, what to ask a woman when you dating her. It's not about sticking your pee-pee inside of her, its a job interview. How many men that married a "psychopath" did ask the right questions? How is your relationship with your father? How was your childhood? Do you want to have kids? What are your best friends like? How did your last relationship end? Do you believe in God? If not, why?

You think Anthony asked all these questions, or he just stuck his pee pee inside of her as fast as possible?

The thing is, people like Anthony haven't been taught by anyone what the warning signs to look for are. All we've had since the Sexual Revolution is to follow your urges. The intergenerational transmission of wisdom in choosing spouses has been severed, with two or three generations of men not being given the tools to make the right choices.

It's people like Molyneux who are now getting that wisdom out there again via the internet, because there's no organic community doing it. It's like rediscovering how to build large buildings again after the Dark Ages.

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And the sole purpose of Facebook is to provide a standing ovation for the trollop: i.e. hundreds of likes and "yo-go girl" comments that assuage the lingering guilt that she has. Not to mention all the support from the beta male orbitors, trying to get a piece of that MILF action. They also erase any signs of guilt she might have felt.

As an aside, I sometimes wonder if during these escapades, the woman doesn't secretly wish that she could drown her children. The reason being is that the little buggers keep mentioning discomforting information: i.e. Where's Daddy? We miss Poppa, etc. These little quips are a thorn in her side, keeping her from fully enjoying the fruits of her victory.

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(09-03-2019 09:06 PM)DogLover Wrote:  New? Are YOU new ...to this planet? This has been going on for years.

...not in my little world
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What happens if you gift money as you earn it to your parents for safekeeping - can the courts take that back during a divorce?
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LOL - I was raised by a Sicilian American step-father / Korean War Veteran and learned the ways of the Wise Guys before, during and after my military service - all of my step uncles were Military Veterans as well US Army, Navy, and USMC - tough cunning bastards who's wives all worked and contributed to common family goals.

The Wise Warriors Rules for Life...

#1 Never humiliate or disrespect another man (or Woman) on purpose - if it takes him a lifetime he will eventually get even with you for his humiliation and your disrespect often at a low time in your life and if they can get you put into the Prison Industrial Complex they will - just to get even.

#2 Never allow anyone to disrespect you - terminate your relations with them the moment you feel disrespected in any way - especially if related by blood as blood is thicker than water and money is thicker than blood. There are two ways to terminate a relationship - change all your numbers dump all your social media accounts and cut off any ties to people who disrespect you and ghost them - if they try to dox you on line hire an offshore Negative SEO person off of Fiverr etc to ruin them with the truth about what they do to people they interact with... The truth is never libel.

The other way is to give them a permanent old school wiseguy's style corrective interview. In the Sicilian world remember any threat is as good as the deed and if someone threatens you you need to treat it as an actual attack and act accordingly to protect you and yours. And if you find that you have to tell someone that you will burn their house down with everyone and everything they care about in it - if you make the threat you have to be willing to follow up with the deed.

It goes all the way back to the Great Niccolo Machiavelli in his epic book the Prince and the ways a man comes to power and rules over his empire and family...

Is it better to be loved or feared? Answer it is better to be loved by the ones you love and it is better to be truly feared by anyone who might think of harming you or the ones you love.

There are five rules of success for any human endeavor including War, Business and raising a prosperous and successful family:

A Morally Just Cause - raising a prosperous and healthy secure family.

A Competent Leader (General, CEO, Dad/Husband)

A Disciplined organization whereby everyone knows their role and executes upon command, i.e. follows your rules and orders.

A Deep Knowlege or the Seasons and Cycles of Life and the terrain/markets/environment you operate in.

An adequate war chest with prudent (secreted) reserves.

Now for the rules regarding any business or love relationship never forgetting that marriage is the ultimate business contract in the west. Kings would offer a dowry to marry off their daughters to more powerful bordering kingdoms to ensure peace and mutual protection if either kingdom came under threat. Marriage is very serious business and must be treated as such.

Love and Mutual Admiration - does she love and admire you truly? Look at the little things she does that you like and do not like - does she correct the things you do not like (Cooking a meal that you do not like to eat - for me its Liver or other organ meats I do not eat. Or does she prepare interesting meals that make you want to rush home to eat? Does she cook from scratch and grow a garden for you and your family or does she just order takeout/doordash delivery?

Honor - does she honor your wishes and requests and treat them like commands from her king or does she give you any attitude - Urban women are notorious for their big-city attitudes why so many are single mothers - Do not put up with bad or disrespectful attitudes of any kind. A sexy attitude on her part leading up to acts of procreation is fine, however. This is really simple she either has a loving attitude or a bitchy attitude - always dump the bishes.

Respect - Does she respect your wishes and treat your requests as a priority in her life? Does she treat you as the Head of your Household and King of your realm? Does she accept any correction in a positive and loving and caring way? Or does she give you a dose of modern SJW misandrist attitude - ever even once - even during her mood swings and periods?

Loyalty - Is she loyal to you or does she always act like the devil's advocate as though you have not considered the pros and cons of your actions... Advocating for the Devil just brings the Devil into your life and never turns out well. A man must take action to succeed in life and women must follow her man's lead always. This can start out by giving her a coffee can to save for something you both want out of the household budget including the money she earns - can be anything from a new appliance to a trip or vacation as long as she is willing to contribute she is following your lead - no contribution and she is just a taker. Takers are the worst type of marriage or business partner which is why I never take on business partners - only subordinate employees who do what they are told otherwise you must fire them and find better team members... goes doubly for a prospective wife, life mate, and mother of your future children.

Fidelity - does she make you and your mutual goals the focus of her life or is she a social butterfly flitting from sweet juicy flower to flower tasting the nectar to see if it offers a bigger better deal (Hypergamy) and does she just stay in touch with family and friends on social media or dose she have a list of hot guys a mile-long she stays in constant contact with? A true and faithful woman will exhibit her Fidelity at all times and will not give her man or his people and extended family any reason to ever doubt her - yes this is now Unicorn territory and why Maury Povich has made a fortune with lie detectors and DNA tests.

Lastly, this is the clincher - I explain to them the Warriors Marriage rules and that you only take one wife for one life and the only way out is in a pine phocking box.

I literally begin this discussion over a glass of wine after a good meal when we are gazing at the sunset and ask sincerely if we get married is there ever any situation you could imagine wanting to ever divorce me? In vino veritas - don't be afraid to use it.

Of course, I have already taken her to the shooting range to a) Teach her proper gun safety and armed self-defense and b) demonstrated my lethal military marksmanship skills. I will even post my target versus her target on the Fridge. Then when and if I am thinking about buying a ring I have the Warrior's Marriage discussion... any balks or sarcasm in any way you simply throw a final breakup sex bang into her and move on to your next marriage prospect.

For women to feel safe they have to believe you will kill anyone or thing that tries to harm them.

For women to feel loved they have to know you will kill anyone who tries to take them away from you.

For women's AWALT hypergamy to be controlled she has to know you will kill her if she ever tries to betray you and phock you over in any way.

This is why local suburban Mom wine and whiner get-togethers (Witches covens) are such a bad idea - you must not let negative influences into your house, your business, or your marriage.

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RE: Men getting "empty housed" by their wives!
The real truth to it is that women need to have some basic control enacted.

In the past this was done by the benevolent patriarchy and by the entire social setting in Europe that differentiated between marriage-worthy women and whores/sluts. Women married young and were expected to be virgins or near-virgins. And in addition there was even greater shame at divorced couples.

That woman of the trader is the usual frivorcee who just blows up a marriage not due to real concerns, but lack of attraction towards her husband - likely starting from day 1 as she used him only for cash.

Currently all female sane behavioral constrainsts are gone - women are encouraged to fuck around, to go find a job, be a stronk independent woman, then to find the Beta Bucks when her market value is gone by 80% at age 30. Afterwards she is encouraged to frivorce the guy in order to optimize her hypergamy more. 80%+ of divorces are initiated by women and the overwhelming majority is certainly not justified.

So a sane Red Pill system would have to actually tip the divorce laws towards men, give default custody of men, not "believe all women" who scream rape and abuse, go back to the legal system of the UK 1880s. Then only is the legal system giving incentives for men to marry and women to stay married. The only real cases of significant damages would be to have been of real proven abuse (physical or financial) and when wealthy/hedonistic men replace the old wives for younger hotter models. Then the man of the 1880s would also have to pay.
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RE: Men getting "empty housed" by their wives!
(09-04-2019 12:50 PM)tugofpeace Wrote:  What happens if you gift money as you earn it to your parents for safekeeping - can the courts take that back during a divorce?

The best way to protect your assets is setting up an offshore account trust account (FAPT), under the best offshore jurisdiction. The entire goal of this is to setup a nest egg and protect the assets there.

The best country to do this: The Cook Islands

The cook islands is an independent country with a Westminster style of parliament. They have a highly educated english speaking labor force, and the highest GDP per capital among the south pacific. They also have a well respected court system with many competent professionals who specialize in offshore financial services. Since their Asset protection Trust act in 1980, the cook islands became the leading assets protection jurisdiction in the world. Leading as a role model, other countries began to copy their methodology.

In the cook islands, privacy is guaranteed and the requirements of pursing a law suit under their legal system is a strong deterrent.

1st - You must provide a bond for cost
2nd - Contingency fees are not allowed
3rd - It is difficult to find a cook island lawyer that has not already be conflicted by the trustees.

Trust companies are highly regulated in the cook islands, and are under strict supervision. There is no local tax on the assets and income of the Cook islands offshore accounts, and professionals are required to maintain insurance licensing.

Here are some of the benefits under the Cook Islands Internatioal Trust Act

1 - Foreign judgement's are not enforceable

2 - Self settled trusts are allowed

3 - The creator of the trust is allowed to retain all powers, rights, and benefits

4 - Multiple provisions are establish to protect against bankruptcy. US & foreign courts are not allowed to take assets from the trust resulting from bankruptcy.

5 - Trusts can only be challenged on the grounds of fraudulent transfers

6 - There is a comprehensive fraudulent transfer process, and a limited timeframe to start taking action against the trust. The fraudulent transfer rules are under a two step test

A - Did the transfer happen within two years?
B - If so, did the process happen in the cook islands within one year of the settlement or transfer to the trust

7 - The pursuing parties must prove beyond a reasonable doubt that the transfer was made with the intentions to defraud a specific creditor and that it rendered the settler unable to pay that creditor.

8 - No one outside the cook islands can know how much you have in the trust, or even if you even have an account.

At the time of this writing, a trip from LAX for one is going to run about $700 for two weeks in November. Most of their banks also have the option to be managed online.

A wise man once said "I can't fall in love I got options"
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RE: Men getting "empty housed" by their wives!
^^ great info.. but if I just transferred the money to my parents, would that protect me?
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(09-04-2019 03:57 PM)tugofpeace Wrote:  ^^ great info.. but if I just transferred the money to my parents, would that protect me?

I'm no attorney, but I would say no. It would actually be view illegal by the judge and make things much worse depending on the state.
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(09-04-2019 04:24 PM)takashi hanzo Wrote:  
(09-04-2019 03:57 PM)tugofpeace Wrote:  ^^ great info.. but if I just transferred the money to my parents, would that protect me?

I'm no attorney, but I would say no. It would actually be view illegal by the judge and make things much worse depending on the state.

I can't believe that to be true. If I wanted to give my dad a better life, say support his housing payments in retirement, or take care of his medical needs, although this is just a farce to get the money to him, I can't do that?

The courts can't order my dad to get involved in the divorce.. can they? For him to show records of how he used the money I gave him?
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(09-04-2019 04:40 PM)tugofpeace Wrote:  
(09-04-2019 04:24 PM)takashi hanzo Wrote:  
(09-04-2019 03:57 PM)tugofpeace Wrote:  ^^ great info.. but if I just transferred the money to my parents, would that protect me?

I'm no attorney, but I would say no. It would actually be view illegal by the judge and make things much worse depending on the state.

I can't believe that to be true. If I wanted to give my dad a better life, say support his housing payments in retirement, or take care of his medical needs, although this is just a farce to get the money to him, I can't do that?

The courts can't order my dad to get involved in the divorce.. can they? For him to show records of how he used the money I gave him?

Family court judges have virtually unlimited discretion -- if the judge thinks you gifted the money to your father with the intent to hide/shield assets from your ex, things will not go well for you.

When you enter family court -- you are no longer permitted to set your own financial priorities -- the judge does that now, and your ex is always at the top of the list.

For example, when a married father loses his job or suffers a drop in income, he adjusts his finances accordingly and the whole family tightens their belts. Johnny might not get those new sneakers right away, or the family might have to postpone a vacation. This is a responsible father.

Divorced fathers who lose their job don't get this luxury. Custodial Mom says Johnny needs new sneakers? Lost your job? Fuck you, pay your child support, Pops! Don't you care about Johnny, you deadbeat?

Trying hiding your assets at your own risk -- your ex's lawyers will, if any serious money is involved, hire good forensic accountants. They will find it, and even if they don't, the judge will not take kindly to the fact that you're hiding money.
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So what you're telling me, JayR, is that I'm not free to do what I want with my money? I can't give it to whom I want?
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