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(09-06-2019 08:12 AM)Manbeline Wrote:  With the decrease in marrying young people and increase in unmarried women, whether it is happening or not, get ready for the government to start looking for ways to keep giving money to women while finding some way to take more money from the men. For instance, all these women work compaigns are simply to try to fund more money into the pockets of women since they spend more, which is good for the government and for their corporate dogs. Considering, however, that businesses still hire on merit most of the time, expect a very strong armed proposition to rear its ugly head sometime in the future. Something very devious that will make alimony and child support look like child's play.

I believe if men continue to simply walk away from this silly marriage contract, there will have to be a power shift. Right now there is still too many ignorant men trying to get lucky with this current strategy that they've been brainwash to do since they were young. Its hard to get rid of a lifetime of social programming. You are right about women being the biggest consumers. They don't even have to buy the products themselves, they get men to do it. The current marriage construction is just a money making business. You got the lawyers, judges, clerks, sherrifs, and etcetera all making money off the bread winner that's typically men.
The system doesn't care about your feelings, it just wants to get paid.

(09-06-2019 09:40 AM)monsquid Wrote:  White women out to sabotage society and themselves. They turn into lonely spinsters and still insist "iT's ThE mEn'S fAuLt."

It's not about race. It's all women. They're being used to get the agenda done.
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(09-06-2019 11:35 AM)SilentOne Wrote:  
(09-06-2019 08:12 AM)Manbeline Wrote:  With the decrease in marrying young people and increase in unmarried women, whether it is happening or not, get ready for the government to start looking for ways to keep giving money to women while finding some way to take more money from the men. For instance, all these women work compaigns are simply to try to fund more money into the pockets of women since they spend more, which is good for the government and for their corporate dogs. Considering, however, that businesses still hire on merit most of the time, expect a very strong armed proposition to rear its ugly head sometime in the future. Something very devious that will make alimony and child support look like child's play.

I believe if men continue to simply walk away from this silly marriage contract, there will have to be a power shift. Right now there is still too many ignorant men trying to get lucky with this current strategy that they've been brainwash to do since they were young. Its hard to get rid of a lifetime of social programming. You are right about women being the biggest consumers. They don't even have to buy the products themselves, they get men to do it. The current marriage construction is just a money making business. You got the lawyers, judges, clerks, sherrifs, and etcetera all making money off the bread winner that's typically men.
The system doesn't care about your feelings, it just wants to get paid.

(09-06-2019 09:40 AM)monsquid Wrote:  White women out to sabotage society and themselves. They turn into lonely spinsters and still insist "iT's ThE mEn'S fAuLt."

It's not about race. It's all women. They're being used to get the agenda done.

Exactly, it's just new to white men. Look at black dudes, they've had to navigate this shit for decades now. In all honesty, a black dude , that grew up in a predominantly black area, that has his shit together is really an accomplishment. I'm white, but I went to predominantly black public schools K-12, and it's crabs in the bucket to an extreme. In 4th grade, I'd hear black kids saying that other black kids were trying to "act like crackers" simply for doing their math homework.

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(09-06-2019 09:34 AM)Manbeline Wrote:  That's because it is. I always have been told to get married and have a wife, but government marriage is not religious marriage. A religious marriage has no incentives other than the mutual respect between both partners. The moment the government got involved, now there's all these rules and pros and cons to marriage that shouldn't be there. That is why I have made the decision to avoid marriage altogether. God did not say "get married, pay the government, and you may have a penalty of losing your wife and kids to a court order." Fed marriage is a scam and a lie. I don't care about tax credits. It's a small sacrifice for the bigger one I can get.

Right, which is why religious marriages are what matter. Get married in a church, never a court house if you can help it. Court marriages are a racket.

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(09-06-2019 12:53 PM)Samseau Wrote:  Right, which is why religious marriages are what matter. Get married in a church, never a court house if you can help it. Court marriages are a racket.

Getting married in a church only will not save you. Cohabitating/comingling your funds/life will be enough in most states to be viewed as defacto married.

It's bad advice to just skip the state court marriage as if it will save you.

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(09-06-2019 12:53 PM)Samseau Wrote:  
(09-06-2019 09:34 AM)Manbeline Wrote:  That's because it is. I always have been told to get married and have a wife, but government marriage is not religious marriage. A religious marriage has no incentives other than the mutual respect between both partners. The moment the government got involved, now there's all these rules and pros and cons to marriage that shouldn't be there. That is why I have made the decision to avoid marriage altogether. God did not say "get married, pay the government, and you may have a penalty of losing your wife and kids to a court order." Fed marriage is a scam and a lie. I don't care about tax credits. It's a small sacrifice for the bigger one I can get.

Right, which is why religious marriages are what matter. Get married in a church, never a court house if you can help it. Court marriages are a racket.

I don't understand what the difference is between an Elvis wedding in Las Vegas, a church or civil wedding in a courthouse or registrar office or onboard a ship. If it is recognised by the state, then it is a state marriage with most of the risk on the greater partner. The only power some churches have against no-fault divorce is to forbid remarriage.

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(09-06-2019 01:23 PM)N°6 Wrote:  
(09-06-2019 12:53 PM)Samseau Wrote:  
(09-06-2019 09:34 AM)Manbeline Wrote:  That's because it is. I always have been told to get married and have a wife, but government marriage is not religious marriage. A religious marriage has no incentives other than the mutual respect between both partners. The moment the government got involved, now there's all these rules and pros and cons to marriage that shouldn't be there. That is why I have made the decision to avoid marriage altogether. God did not say "get married, pay the government, and you may have a penalty of losing your wife and kids to a court order." Fed marriage is a scam and a lie. I don't care about tax credits. It's a small sacrifice for the bigger one I can get.

Right, which is why religious marriages are what matter. Get married in a church, never a court house if you can help it. Court marriages are a racket.

I don't understand what the difference is between an Elvis wedding in Las Vegas, a church or civil wedding in a courthouse or registrar office or onboard a ship. If it is recognised by the state, then it is a state marriage with most of the risk on the greater partner. The only power some churches have against no-fault divorce is to forbid remarriage.

Correct. The simplest and most powerful path is to not play the game in the first place. Just walk away from marriages and the system will either fall or we reconstruct.
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(09-03-2019 06:47 PM)[email protected] Wrote:  Devastating and spooky at the same time. On plebbit I read a story about this crypto millionaire that had a similar experience:

https://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/...january_i/

Quote:Now, I admit I was extremely lucky with choosing the time of when to sell the assets. I had no clue the market would take a dive in February, and so it seemed to many that I had timed the market perfectly, selling most of my coins in the first two weeks of January of 2018. Many called me a genius for selling at the very top, as if I had some sort of wisdom to know when it would drop; the truth is much less flattering; it was nothing but dumb luck, based on me wanting to pay taxes in 2018 and defer to 2019. Awesome, well done! Yeah? well, slow down, son, not so fast.

So, I gather the 7-digit lumpsum in January 2018 and we write a check for the full amount at closing in February on the property of her dreams. A property that could easily be showcased on a luxury Real Estate magazine cover. Also, remember we had just moved back to the United States with just a few suitcases each from overseas. We had no furniture, kitchenware, curtains, TV's, bed sheets, winter clothing and so many other essential things that one usually purchases over time, but which we now had to purchase all at once. Not a problem, Bitcoin had dropped slightly but still well above $15k, I believe, at the time. And, earlier, in January, I had diligently taken this expense into account and effortlessly set aside a small fortune for equipping such a large house with everything we would ever need, brand new. It seemed we were protagonists of one of the Home Makeover Shows.

Finally, after working day and night, prepping the house non-stop for days and when every piece of furniture had finally arrived, been unpacked and carried to its corresponding room, it seemed most of the essentials were in place and the hard work was done. I longed for pouring myself a Scotch and to finally sit down and enjoy the fruits of my labor. I head downstairs to the dedicated walk-in, cigar-humidor / wine / Scotch cellar in the basement and grab the better bottle of Whisky of the few bottles of Scotch that I had bought earlier in the week. On my way up, I remember feeling a sense of calm, combined with a glow of excitement and this undescribable profound inner peace, all at once. This was such a rare, natural, non-drug induced high that I had never experienced. It felt so good! This sense of accomplishment of achieving that one thing I had been chasing and longing for my entire life. I had expected I would be chasing this goal for the next 15-20 years, and yet, here it was. No, where I was, was even better than expected! A place where not even my parents, who still have to make their monthly mortgage payments. I had done it! With a smile from ear to ear, I take a deep breath of relief and while looking around the property, I think to myself: "It's perfect, everything is in place and I can finally call this our home. We are so lucky and we are going to live a great life. A life that few can only dream of. So many concerns will be lifted and become redundant. Everything will be better. I'll start a fire in one of our two fireplaces and I am going to begin enjoying my semi-retired life with the first sip of my drink. That will be the official start of our new life".

I head over to the kitchen to get a glass and some ice cubes, while I struggle to find which one is the freezer among the many drawers in the kitchen. It was then when I notice a handwritten note placed front and center on the kitchen counter. It is from my wife and read: "There is no easy way to say this, so I am just going to say it..... I want to legally divorce [ ...]". It continued saying that she had taken our son, and had unequivocally decided to leave me. She had already filed the paperwork for divorce and that I should expect to be served in the morning.

My bliss had lasted less than 5 minutes and in less than two seconds, it turned dark, somber and I saw it all crumbling down in front of me. Like a long-awaited rocket launch, years in preparation, which then unexpectedly explodes on the launch pad during the countdown. My stomach, heart and everything in my body just sank and melted into one ball of poison in my core. I felt like throwing up. I was completely blindsided; she had played the game all along, not giving me the slightest hint of what was being concocted in the background. She had already engaged with her lawyers weeks beforehand. Her mother was already in town from another state to help out with I don't know what. I had been gaslighted and was threatened by her that I needed to see a psychiatrist due to a change in my temper that I had supposedly developed - my temper was awesome: with BTC at that price? Everything was perfect! But I obeyed and went anyhow (this would later fit her story that she had to leave with the child because she feared for her safety due to my supposed temper for which I was under treatment, therefore, I must have this temper problem, see?). Also, the purchase of the overpriced home also seemed clearly premeditated: Price was the main driver of the decision making; not location, demographics, taxes, etc. It was the wrong neighborhood for us (people much older than us, retired, golfers and no kids the same age as our son to play with). Our house happened to also be the most expensive in the neighborhood. I can see it all so clearly now.

See, your crypto coins on the blockchain, are not within the US court's jurisdiction (or, at least, it's quite debatable - a gray area - ask me for the seed and I can tell you that I may have the seed, or that I may not have the seed, I may have the wrong seed, I may have forgotten it, I may have lost it - you can't prove I did not forget, or lost it, etc). However, once it is in FIAT in a bank, or invested in a property, the courts can rule on the asset(s), freeze, disburse or order a sale of the property, etc. It's done all the time.

Also, the coins were technically mine, and by definition private property (not to be divided during the divorce) as they were acquired before the marriage. I could not prove its origins (I bought many of them via direct messaging members on Bitcointalk.org and mining rather than exchanges, so no records, receipts or nothing to prove otherwise: the big exchanges like BitStamp and Coinbase didn't start operations till 2013, if I m not mistaken. Instead, I would talk to one of the forum members offering coins we'd agree on a price, I'd send a check to wherever the individual seller instructed me to (Russia, Bulgaria, Japan, UK. etc) and the coins would be deposited to whatever address I provided. Yes, it was quite crude at the time.

However, once I converted my coins to cash and used that cash to buy a property for the benefit of the family, it became common property and thus she then had rights to a portion of it when divided between the two parties should a divorce occur - which ended up being almost 3/4 of all assets.

I was robbed in broad daylight. By the one person, I trusted with my life. The one you should trust with your life. Your life partner. And while I was in complete denial, trying to bargain, I waited too long to obtain good legal representation. When I finally ended up getting a lawyer, I was quite distraught and I clearly did not do the proper research and this resulted in a less than stellar performance and detrimental to me at many key steps in the process. I had to switch legal representation right before mediation and I can't blame my new lawyer either, as (s)he did not have the required time to catch up on all the details, (s)he did his/her best, but I was ultimately strongarmed into conceding my soon-to-be-ex-wife to let her return to the house, in exchange to obtain 50% of my son's custody, with serious and strict clauses I had to abide by. So, I had to move out, find a hole in the wall in a student apartment, pay my rent and pay our kids pre-school, while she lives grandiose, without monthly payments in the country club, till the house sells, which will likely be in the spring of next year. Nice!

Due to my delay, legal mishandling and somehow every other element in her favor, she inexplicably ended up with around 3/4 of the worth of all assets, free and clear, no taxes due. Mind you, she has never financially contributed, nor made a single $ during our entire marriage. She has never worked and had $0 in her pocket when we married. She didn't even have a checking account, well in her thirties. She is no dummy; she is street smart, knows how to manipulate people, get her way with flirting and charm, while I am more intellectual and book smart. and She beat me hands-down. She is walking away with a sum of, not quite 7 figures, but close.

With what I am left with from the sale of the house, I am responsible to pay for all the capital gains taxes from the liquidation to the IRS, which are due in April 2019. I don't expect there to be more left over than the estimated $30k mentioned above.
This just proves my stealth wealth post correct. She knew she couldn’t get her hands on the bitcoin in court, but she could once it was converted to fiat. Moral of the story is don’t get married, don’t talk about bitcoin balances, and lawyer up quickly if you don’t follow 1 and 2.
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(09-04-2019 01:06 AM)SilentOne Wrote:  
(09-03-2019 07:13 PM)tugofpeace Wrote:  How can prenups just be thrown out? And why can't you just gift all your savings to your mom/dad/sibling (whom you trust more than your wife) instead of relying on some shitty prenup?

And it makes me wonder, what kind of women are these guys marrying in the first place..

Never worked a day in her life. Why the fuck would you marry a girl like that in this day and age with the courts biased towards women how they are?

Prenups are better used as toilet paper to wipe your rear end. The only way to protect yourself from a marriage is to not get married in the 1st place. That's it.

Second. All women are like that. All of them. At some point she is going to do as much as she is capable of getting away with. It's in her nature and thats why women were kept in check in the past.

Third. It doesn't matter how much she's making when you met her. She could and will easily lose that job when you marry her and give her children. And there's nothing you can do about it.

(09-03-2019 06:57 PM)Manbeline Wrote:  Well, that settled it. With the courts clearly in female's favor, I'm not marrying any woman.

Great decision.

The only places with good long lasting marriages are where the women get shamed for a divorce and receive little to nothing for parting ways from their partner. Here in America there is an incentive for women to go through a divorce. It makes sense why they do it and push for it. They actually gain something before, during, and after a marriage is over with.
Exactly. Every market has certain incentives and disincentives. The Anglo marriage market really only incentivizes the women to get divorced and obtain half the assets, child support, and alimony. Marriage is the ultimate blue pill, which is why it is so strange for me to see how it is now sold as the only option for men to have a happy life.
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(09-06-2019 12:53 PM)Samseau Wrote:  
(09-06-2019 09:34 AM)Manbeline Wrote:  That's because it is. I always have been told to get married and have a wife, but government marriage is not religious marriage. A religious marriage has no incentives other than the mutual respect between both partners. The moment the government got involved, now there's all these rules and pros and cons to marriage that shouldn't be there. That is why I have made the decision to avoid marriage altogether. God did not say "get married, pay the government, and you may have a penalty of losing your wife and kids to a court order." Fed marriage is a scam and a lie. I don't care about tax credits. It's a small sacrifice for the bigger one I can get.

Right, which is why religious marriages are what matter. Get married in a church, never a court house if you can help it. Court marriages are a racket.

This doesn’t make any difference. The marriage contract is still with the state. You do you, though.
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Sorry but you are all mistaken. Marriages without a court approval are just long-term cohabitation in many states. Some states have "palimony," but overall it evades the laws.

The only thing that matters in cohabitation are children. Doesn't matter if you're married or not, if children are present then the odds are extremely high the man pays child support if the woman sues for it.

Ultimately, the point of marriage is to make it a grand affair and give the women expectations she is your wife and you are her husband. Social recognition of vows made on a wedding day are major events for a female that changes how she views a man. Her loyalty is increased significantly and will desire children. Weddings are important for women, especially good women, there's no way around this.

If you want children to be raised by a responsible woman then one will want to be married. But never do it in a courthouse, do it in a church or in a large gathering of families, and make it primarily emotional and not business oriented. File taxes separately, cohabit if you'd like but try to keep your address seperate just to avoid anything with the law, such as a P.O. Box.

Once children come into the play, the law takes over no matter what so always be position such that a separation wouldn't destroy you and you can still see your kids. Ideally the marriage lasts but there's no telling what might happen in today's day and age. Honestly though, it's not worth worrying about if you arrange things intelligently beforehand.

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(09-06-2019 04:53 PM)Samseau Wrote:  Sorry but you are all mistaken. Marriages without a court approval are just long-term cohabitation in many states. Some states have "palimony," but overall it evades the laws.

The only thing that matters in cohabitation are children. Doesn't matter if you're married or not, if children are present then the odds are extremely high the man pays child support if the woman sues for it.

Ultimately, the point of marriage is to make it a grand affair and give the women expectations she is your wife and you are her husband. Social recognition of vows made on a wedding day are major events for a female that changes how she views a man. Her loyalty is increased significantly and will desire children. Weddings are important for women, especially good women, there's no way around this.

If you want children to be raised by a responsible woman then one will want to be married. But never do it in a courthouse, do it in a church or in a large gathering of families, and make it primarily emotional and not business oriented. File taxes separately, cohabit if you'd like but try to keep your address seperate just to avoid anything with the law, such as a P.O. Box.

Once children come into the play, the law takes over no matter what so always be position such that a separation wouldn't destroy you and you can still see your kids. Ideally the marriage lasts but there's no telling what might happen in today's day and age. Honestly though, it's not worth worrying about if you arrange things intelligently beforehand.

By your own admission the state takes control when there's kids involved and the result is basically the breadwinner having to be significantly responsible.

That you can be married in many states religiously, specifically keep all your finances separate (and a separate address!), and thus avoid divorce-rape is kind of pointless if you can't have kids.

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Quote:By your own admission the state takes control when there's kids involved and the result is basically the breadwinner having to be significantly responsible.

That you can be married in many states religiously, specifically keep all your finances separate (and a separate address!), and thus avoid divorce-rape is kind of pointless if you can't have kids.

The breadwinner isn't responsible; just the man is. Even if the woman makes more money, she'll be held as "financially responsible" and therefore get custody. If the man makes more money, the woman is held as the "caretaker" of the children and therefore gets custody. Pretty much no matter what, the man loses.

It's a rigged scam of a game that is killing our nation dead, but don't let that stop anyone from having kids if they meet a woman they love. Just be prepared to what happens if there is a split, and always have a backup plan. I personally think it makes more sense not to work hard in such an environment, so that way if you get hit with child support the judge won't be able to set the payments very high.

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Leave Blue-America and get married in a European-occupied region that isn't a cultural shithole.

Choose a good woman to be your wife and be a good husband in return as well as a good man.

Do this and your odds of divorce drop literally to 1% or less. If you more highly value all the crap you'd have to abandon to do this then stop complaining that you can't have it all, and stop pretending that every man who ever got divorced was some kind of faultless saint who never played a hand in his own failure.

Yes, things are not as good as they used to be but it's hard to escape the feeling that a lot of men are dropping the entire burden of marriage at the feet of the current circumstances. They want a cliche of a wife and a cliche of a marriage that never existed in the first place. Incidentally this is how people on the conservative side are manipulated just as easily as those on the liberal side. By being told that they've been robbed of far more than they have actually been robbed of, and in being convinced of that lie they choose not to bother participating.

Currently a lot of guys complaining about marriage are mostly bitter that they can't have it all. A loyal wife who accepts their infidelity and who will live in Sodom or Gomorrah (for the sake of her husband's modern vices) without being corrupt in the first place or corrupted down the line.

You want a 1950's marriage? How many are willing to live a 1950's lifestyle, complete with sincere morality under small town values and small town budgets?

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There's no going back to the 1950's era, the economy has shifted over to now needing two partners working long hours instead of one.

I know some of you guys here are still pro marriage. To me it just sounds like you guys want men to get married... just cause. I haven't heard any rational reason yet why any man should get married today.

I offer the simplest solution, yet most effective. Walk Away. Stop getting married. The economy will be forced to correct itself or burn.
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(09-06-2019 07:23 PM)Samseau Wrote:  It's a rigged scam of a game that is killing our nation dead, but don't let that stop anyone from having kids if they meet a woman they love. Just be prepared to what happens if there is a split, and always have a backup plan. I personally think it makes more sense not to work hard in such an environment, so that way if you get hit with child support the judge won't be able to set the payments very high.

You're right, for marriage in the west, the rule must be never ever earn more than your wife.
Never ever have more assets than your wife.

When she plays the 'I have to give up work to look after the kids' card, quit your job.
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(09-06-2019 11:43 PM)John Dodds Wrote:  
(09-06-2019 07:23 PM)Samseau Wrote:  It's a rigged scam of a game that is killing our nation dead, but don't let that stop anyone from having kids if they meet a woman they love. Just be prepared to what happens if there is a split, and always have a backup plan. I personally think it makes more sense not to work hard in such an environment, so that way if you get hit with child support the judge won't be able to set the payments very high.

You're right, for marriage in the west, the rule must be never ever earn more than your wife.
Never ever have more assets than your wife.

When she plays the 'I have to give up work to look after the kids' card, quit your job.

That's interestingly funny. The problem here is she can just move in with a schmuck who will take her in with the kids no problem. You on the other hand may have to live in a car somewhere living off scraps.

Now you're forced to get your job back and get dragged through family court to pay your dues. The system wins. Whip
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(09-06-2019 10:16 PM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  Leave Blue-America and get married in a European-occupied region that isn't a cultural shithole.

Choose a good woman to be your wife and be a good husband in return as well as a good man.

Do this and your odds of divorce drop literally to 1% or less. If you more highly value all the crap you'd have to abandon to do this then stop complaining that you can't have it all, and stop pretending that every man who ever got divorced was some kind of faultless saint who never played a hand in his own failure.

Yes, things are not as good as they used to be but it's hard to escape the feeling that a lot of men are dropping the entire burden of marriage at the feet of the current circumstances. They want a cliche of a wife and a cliche of a marriage that never existed in the first place. Incidentally this is how people on the conservative side are manipulated just as easily as those on the liberal side. By being told that they've been robbed of far more than they have actually been robbed of, and in being convinced of that lie they choose not to bother participating.

Currently a lot of guys complaining about marriage are mostly bitter that they can't have it all. A loyal wife who accepts their infidelity and who will live in Sodom or Gomorrah (for the sake of her husband's modern vices) without being corrupt in the first place or corrupted down the line.

You want a 1950's marriage? How many are willing to live a 1950's lifestyle, complete with sincere morality under small town values and small town budgets?
My cousin married a foreigner and she still took his kid and half his stuff. They get westernized really quick. I saw this video of a North Korean refugee go all hello kitty by just living in South Korea for 6 months.
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Leonard asked
"You want a 1950's marriage? How many are willing to live a 1950's lifestyle, complete with sincere morality under small town values and small town budgets?"

Yes I do, yes I am and yes thats fine...anything is better than the miscarriage of the meaning of today's marriage
Its even been reduced to a reality tv show spectacle (MAFS) were low hanging narcissists who fill the shallow end of the genetic pool cavort around with each other for IG likes and plastic surgery deals, this is considered acceptable. That version being slightly higher than homosexuals given the same status as a proper marriage in our country.
Marriage is officially a joke for men, the punchline being he’ll lose not only his children but wear the indignation of losing the wealth he worked hard for to furnish his family with if she wants out...give me the 50's thanks
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(09-06-2019 11:11 PM)SilentOne Wrote:  There's no going back to the 1950's era, the economy has shifted over to now needing two partners working long hours instead of one.

The economy has shifted because of high taxes...one spouse has to work to pay the bills...the other one to pay the taxes
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(09-07-2019 01:29 AM)buja Wrote:  
(09-06-2019 11:11 PM)SilentOne Wrote:  There's no going back to the 1950's era, the economy has shifted over to now needing two partners working long hours instead of one.

The economy has shifted because of high taxes...one spouse has to work to pay the bills...the other one to pay the taxes

It has shifted due to the massive inflation caused by the relentless money printing machines.
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(09-06-2019 09:01 AM)Bazzwaldo Wrote:  I wonder if the suicide rate of men in the US have anything to do with the treatment they get in divorce courts
A quick search reveals of the 147,173 suicides recorded in the US in 2017, 70% were white men
With divorce rates between 41%-50% it unfortunately makes marriage seem like a financial and health risk rather than a life commitment to look forward to

Yes - the majority are impacted by divorce that greatly. It's not only the financial loss but mostly the inability to see their kids or have often manipulative mothers. I knew a guy who was removed from all parental rights, his wife manipulated the daughters into not wanting to see their dad, but he still had to pay child-support at great rates despite her being far better off and having inherited a house. It almost brought him to the brink of suicide since he worked 3 jobs and still barely made it. Luckily he was smart and a few years later already got promoted into a high position that later turned into a high management position at the auto-part company he was working for. So he began to make so much money that he did not know what to do with it and remarried. They are still happily married.

But how many men commit suicide when their entire world gets shattered and they are not allowed to see their kids?

Rollo Tomassi who gets countless emails from divorced men clearly recommends to simply not get married in our times at least in the US. Cohabitation and even having kids together - that alone does not entitle her to get half your stuff in most states.

What women absolutely don't need right now is to be given more hand in a relationship:



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People lived a lot different back in the day too. Grandpa built the house himself with his friends and family after the war for $5000. My uncle still lives in it. By today's standards, it's pretty modest. They had one car. Grandma needs to drive today? Grandpa gets dropped off and picked up at work. He was a teamster who ran a rural LP gas delivery route btw. One TV, with only the channels that came in on the bunny ears. One phone. Grandma cooked. They didn't go out to eat a lot and they had enough yard for a garden and would do canning. Grandma was also supposedly pretty good on the sewing machine so she made a lot of mom's clothes. That's how people lived back then.

Now, everybody has a house that makes the Taj Mahal look poverty, filled with custom Restoration hardware furniture, everybody has a car, new iPhone every year with unlimited data plan, go out to eat every night, TV in every room with the biggest satellite package.

Live like the 50s and one income should be enough, but we've invented a lot more stuff to buy in the meantime, plus your monthly carrying costs have gone up due to more subscriptions.

I live in a house that was built in 1947. The rooms have one or two outlets in them. Why? Back then, what was there to plug in? A lamp? Maybe a radio? Now look at all the shit you can get that needs electricity.
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(09-06-2019 10:16 PM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  Leave Blue-America and get married in a European-occupied region that isn't a cultural shithole.

Choose a good woman to be your wife and be a good husband in return as well as a good man.

Do this and your odds of divorce drop literally to 1% or less. If you more highly value all the crap you'd have to abandon to do this then stop complaining that you can't have it all, and stop pretending that every man who ever got divorced was some kind of faultless saint who never played a hand in his own failure.

Yes, things are not as good as they used to be but it's hard to escape the feeling that a lot of men are dropping the entire burden of marriage at the feet of the current circumstances. They want a cliche of a wife and a cliche of a marriage that never existed in the first place. Incidentally this is how people on the conservative side are manipulated just as easily as those on the liberal side. By being told that they've been robbed of far more than they have actually been robbed of, and in being convinced of that lie they choose not to bother participating.

Currently a lot of guys complaining about marriage are mostly bitter that they can't have it all. A loyal wife who accepts their infidelity and who will live in Sodom or Gomorrah (for the sake of her husband's modern vices) without being corrupt in the first place or corrupted down the line.

You want a 1950's marriage? How many are willing to live a 1950's lifestyle, complete with sincere morality under small town values and small town budgets?


Leonard you're wayyy more intelligent than I am, and contributed here more than I'll ever do... but... and I'm saying this respectfully... but you've never been a player to be writing stuff like this. For what you wrote to be true... you'd literally have to find a chick who maybe watched 100 Hours or less of TV in her LIFE... and somehow never perused a Cosmo magazine!

You of course know about female nature... but have you REALLY felt it? And I'm not criticizing you, since I believe I know why you feel this way ( of course feel free to correct me if I'm wrong). Due to being such a Conservative in day to day affairs... you're trying to put the "vail of innocence" back onto the Women of our time. Forget about it! Can't put the Tube back in once it's out

Of course there's fantastic Women out there... but to say divorce drops down to 1% with them... c'mon Man! Women see the world revolving around them (which is why they rarely turn their head when crossing a Stop Side - you'll notice if you start paying attention!) which is why they're never evil according to them. And you believe 99% of the best one to have this sense of self-realization?

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Quote:The number of sexual partners people have had in their lifetimes varies widely within a population. A 2007 nationwide survey in the United States found the median number of female sexual partners reported by men was seven and the median number of male partners reported by women was four.

Prior to the June rule it was widely recognised that if you couldn't beat that number by an order of magnitude then you were a simp.

If, with all the information available to you, you cannot beat the national divorce rate by an order of magnitude then you are a simp.

Nobody gets a pass here blaming society for their inceldom. It beggars belief that they look to get a pass here for being afraid of having the same chances of divorce as every other zero-frame chump in the nation.

Are you average or are you better? Because if you contend that the statistical odds offered up are the reality for you personally then you clearly don't think highly of your ability to keep a woman in line as compared to Benny Blue-pill who represents 99% of the population. Personally I think you can do better than Benny. Much better.

I seriously think some of you guys need to step out of the Blue hives. You're fishing in a cultural sewer.

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(09-07-2019 12:05 AM)SilentOne Wrote:  
(09-06-2019 11:43 PM)John Dodds Wrote:  
(09-06-2019 07:23 PM)Samseau Wrote:  It's a rigged scam of a game that is killing our nation dead, but don't let that stop anyone from having kids if they meet a woman they love. Just be prepared to what happens if there is a split, and always have a backup plan. I personally think it makes more sense not to work hard in such an environment, so that way if you get hit with child support the judge won't be able to set the payments very high.

You're right, for marriage in the west, the rule must be never ever earn more than your wife.
Never ever have more assets than your wife.

When she plays the 'I have to give up work to look after the kids' card, quit your job.

That's interestingly funny. The problem here is she can just move in with a schmuck who will take her in with the kids no problem. You on the other hand may have to live in a car somewhere living off scraps.

Now you're forced to get your job back and get dragged through family court to pay your dues. The system wins. Whip

I left the country and never worked again.
Lucky for me the UK doesn't cancel passports for absent fathers.
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