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RE: "Economically Unattractive" Men to Blame For Low Marriage Rate
Did you ever hear the old joke about the kid who kills his parents then cries to the judge that he's an orphan?

It's kind of like the women who took all the men's jobs then complained there was no one to marry.
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As a general rule, men become what women reward. When being the party guy alpha chad is endlessly rewarded with as much sexual adventure as a man can handle, and being a good boy beta husband is as cruelly punished as it's possible to do, then guys are going to stop working towards being the latter and either become the former or drop out completely. Clown world is simple to understand: bad behavior is rewarded and good behavior is punished. This is done intentionally, with malice, by the vampires and parasites burning our society to the ground. But as I've said many times before - if women began to reward chivalrous behavior, every man in America would become a gentleman overnight.

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Spend their prime years gladly getting defiled by psychopaths then when they're fat and used up they yell at their educated hard-working husbands during Christmas vacation for having a piece of lint on his sweater.
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(09-06-2019 01:28 PM)Eazy_E Wrote:  I'll be the first to admit I'm a shit stain on the underwear of life. I just turned 33, live with my mother and sister, dropped out of college, and prefer to work easy jobs. I mean, my old man died six years ago this Christmas, so I like being around to help my mother so it's beneficial for both of us,

My only concern is that, at 33, the time is running out to be able to raise good kids. Who looks after you in your old age as well as you look after your mom?

Perhaps you can find a decent woman on your travels.
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(09-06-2019 09:25 AM)monsquid Wrote:  "Additionally, women on both the low end and high end of the socioeconomic spectrum face a harder time finding an economically compatible mate."

What's going on here? You would think that the women on low end would be happy to find anyone who makes more money, excuse me 'economically attractive,' than themselves. This just shows you how delusional women are.

Like Greg Adams says on YouTube, once she's had a taste of Chad or Tyrone on the cc, she can never go back. Yes, even when it makes all the sense in the world to be with that decent normal guy when she's dead broke and hitting the wall at 180mph going backwards, she will still harbor dreams of trying to lock down her dream Chad or Tyrone. Of course they want nothing to do with her.

The Clash wrote about this in their 1980 song "The Magnificent Seven," which had a lyric that was a first-person account of a workingman's day:

"She's seen the ad
She thinks it's nice
Better work hard
I've seen the price."


When you have a society inundated with advertising, even the lower-class women want "sophistication" (to use a word from that song). The situation has gotten worse with the popularity of cable TV's "Real Housewives" shows and social media sites pushing other's people's wealth in everyone's faces.

Strummer might have been a commie/socialist, but he was extremely insightful and a lot of his ideas still ring true. What doesn't ring true is the crappy mastering job they did with The Clash's music. They seem to have rolled off all the treble and compressed it to death. Here's "The Magnificent Seven," but if you really wanna hear this stuff in hi-fi, track down the original vinyl.



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The real issue is smart successful men - i.e. educated Multi Millionaires in my circle - will provide for their primary S.O. significant other - everything they might need EXCEPT for a Wedding Ring - one friend inherited an Industrial Park fortune that he helped build and manage when his parents were still alive and now runs it on behalf of himself and his sister - his main squeeze is a cosmetic dentist who worked her way through dental school as a NE Patriots Cheerleader - he paid off her ridiculous $200K Student loans and she gave him a Hollywood Smile and since keeps his smile fully charged - he is known to enjoy some strange on the side and created and managed a band with Horns and Horny groupies, etc.

No way he ever puts the family fortune at risk via marriage. Everything has long ago been setup in Real Estate Trusts that any nuisance lawsuits can not penetrate

The other gent has been teaching me the secrets of Global Trading Strategies for about two years and he enjoys doing manual End of Week reviews for a manual maths checks on his automated Bloomberg etc systems at the Global Institution that pay him a ridiculous base salary and serious bonuses and leaves him alone when major Options setups present themselves as he primarily trades futures.

A decade or so ago his S.O.'s mother was giving her the Free Milk and Cow lecture - so he went shopping with his S.O. for a Condo in a desirable Oceanside community an easy commute to Boston - he bought it free and clear and put the deed in her name and came over to her parents home for dinner and made sure they knew the deed was in her name alone... Considering most corporate chix either rent or take a 30-year mortgage - this was a big deal - I estimate his worth about $30M USD CASH assets - more Cash on Hand than most Centi Millionaires - most of which is secreted in legal IBCs in British Commonwealth Island Countries outside the reach of frivolous lawsuits and frivolous divorce rape lawyers grubby claws.

So Ivy League Bishes in the OP's Report really justed griping that Asset Protection Strategies have become so pervasive and sophisticated that they can no longer just pull an Eddie Murphy type marriage smash and grab to "snatch" half of a real US Millionaires or Billionaires assets after the bishes squandered their SMV on the cock carousel and Sex in the City strong independent women lifestyle.

DJT's first wife Ivana wanted a $20M Settlement when the Donald divorced her - then her (((lawyer))) got greedy and demanded $50M - but a recession occurred and she had to settle for $10M. There is always more than one way to skin the gold-digging cats.

These strategies would have never occurred to our Grandfathers as were unnecessary back in the day. Women have only their feminist SJW hypergamy - being themselves to blame.

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This forum reads my mind sometimes. I was thinking about this earlier today, about how 'economically unattractive' repulsive I am to women. Then I thought 'you are only 1 lottery ticket away from becoming attractive again'. Shame I don't buy lottery tickets.

I'd like to get a steady girlfriend. Casual sex doesn't interest me. It hardly ever did once I found out how shallow it all was. I always liked having a LTR and getting to know them to have the best sex. Sure I'd love to get married, but what woman is going to take me on? I do realise I'm a bit off my nut - I was never right in the head really...

But women like me, they feel comfortable with me. I feel as if I have learned enough game the hard way to be able lock it down. Plus I've learned from experience that putting them on a pedestal is the biggest mistake you can make. And more than that, when women really loved me and really honoured me it was because I put them in their place. They actually respected me.

But I'm old, my options are limited. I'm still quite good looking and I attract interested looks even from teenage girls. Which is nice. The beer has kind of taken its toll but it's nothing irredeemable. I don't have a pot to piss in so there's no point in playing that game - it's bad boy bummed out loser musician game from me I'm afraid (stick to what you know). Besides, I'm not upper class or even upper-middle class, so no matter what, you'd have to be filthy rich to break in to those circles. Not that I want to but I'd probably prefer it to some fucking low-life chav. But I've nothing against the lower classes. I hate the class system, but there you go.

I'm just crazy enough and enough of a bum, whilst still being pretty level-headed and calm and in control of my emotions to hit it big though. It wouldn't surprise me if some upper class piece of totty found me the best thing since sliced bread - she'd have good taste. I could make her laugh, fuck her better than she's probably been fucked in the last 10 years at least. And I'm loyal and if she wanted to settle down, if my lack of money wasn't a problem, then I would cherish her. She wouldn't need to be nice looking. All but one of my LTR's has been to super model 9's, but whatever, I'm more in to personality.

Be pleasant, don't be cunty, treat me with respect and you'll be very happy. I'm a pretty good catch for any sensible girl. But there in lies the rub...

I could be a few inches taller, but it wouldn't make a difference. I'm tall enough. I could be better looking, but it wouldn't help (men only need to be so good looking before it becomes a hindrance. It's been a problem for me in the past what with jealousy from other men). Really, it's the money thing. Even the class thing is not totally insurmountable.

In truth, I am economically unattractive!

So just generally unattractive!

I do get lonely sometimes. It's a little heartbreaking when you see a great looking women out with her good looking successful man, but she's still eyeballing you. They like to look. But I wouldn't be 'good enough' for her. It's also a little reminder of how unfaithful women are. Think the central point in Eyes Wide Shut. The thing that starts that whole argument between Cruise and Kidman. She sees that handsome dashing Naval Officer and she admits she would have left him and the kids for just one night of passion with him - she wanted and desired and lusted after him that much. Cruise loses his nut and goes for a walk on the wild side...

There's a moral in there somewhere. You can interpret that film in so many ways, but sometimes, just as with people, what you see is what you get and some things really only are skin-deep, like beauty.

Cruise is not economically unattractive. But he's a little boorish and bourgeoisie. He's got money, status and a good life, and he's also a good man at heart, despite the desires he untaps when he goes on his journey through the dream world. He probably loves Kidman in a way that Kidman just doesn't love him.

Sound familiar. Men are the loving sex and women are the cold-hearted. To paraphrase a poster on here the other day. I've always known that a woman's love is never unconditional. While men are quite happy to commit. Well, some men, of course, but at least it's possible.

I hold out no hope of finding a woman.

The other day I nearly asked a 16 year old out. She looked about 20. She wanted to play 'guess my age' with her. We had a great little chat. She was a lovely young lady. I think she may have had daddy issues as she talked about her father. That and the fact that she had been eyeballing me the last time I was in the bar. She was folding the napkins for dinner. I thought she was Scandinavian. And at least 20.

What to do, eh? I mean, that would be a really silly age gap. But she was very very attractive and had such a pleasant and straightforward personality - she was an oasis in the desert of my life. And there was a small chance she found me attractive too. Money wouldn't have meant anything to her at that age. She was looking for 'something' (who knows) but it wasn't cash.

But still, even if she did fancy me a bit (and why not? you should see the men around here) that hardly means she would want to enter in to a relationship with someone much older than her father. It was too weird even for me, so I just said 'nice to meet you' and walked out. I'll talk to her again now we've broken the ice.

In the barren wasteland that is my love life, I'd be more than happy to date her, as weird as that sounds. But my life is more than a little 'weird' anyway. Older women would HATE me. Then they'd be interested. The sick puppies that they are.

As a side note, as I walked to the next bar (the sun was shining and I'd just payed off my credit card bill at the bank) to wait for my bus home, I passed two young girls about, ooh, I don't know, 12, 14? They were sisters. They were dressed up as, I don't quite know how to put this delicately... they were dressed up as 'adults' shall we say. Revealing clothes showing their body parts, heavy make up, high heels. They looked like they were auditioning for a pop band or something. They stood out on the street despite many other young girls being all dressed up in the summer sun. And mum and dad were nowhere to be seen. I just thought that I wouldn't let my girls dress like that. They were also stunningly beautiful with long blonde hair. It was a bit bizarre.

Anyway, I get to the next pub and have an hour to kill for my bus. I sit at a nice table over-looking the street and can watch the world pass by in the summer sun and heatwave. There is a middle-aged couple at the table next to me but up on a riser so we don't clash or share the same space.

I keep my shades on coz it's bright and I don't like bright light. When all of a sudden, who pops in through the door? The two young blondes. This was their mum and dad. Small world. They immediately start asking for money in an entitled way. But they were pleasant enough and if you can't spoil your two lovely girls a bit on a hot sunny day, then well, you know...

I was looking over as I just like to look around in general, and the older of the sisters was checking me in the mirror to see if I was looking at her! Which I was briefly. As I was her sister and her mum and dad and little baby sister as well. They popped off when they got their money from dad and came back once or twice more before I headed off for my bus. Real life barbie dolls.

So they get cash from dad as they grow up. Fair enough. It's what dads are for. But does there come a point where they don't expect money gratis from the men in their life? Rhetorical question.

If only they knew just how much they had won the lottery of life. Those exceptional looks. Born in a stable country that might be a shit hole but it's not Syria or Iraq. Born female! And born in to a good loving family.

Ah yes, the family...

We weren't in each other's space, but it was hard not to over-hear parts of the conversation between mum and dad. They had won the lottery of life as well. Same reasons as above with the fact they have a beautiful healthy family. But still...

Dad wasn't very happy. Neither was mum. I heard something like: 'your family have always been a problem, they've always been this way, they'll never change...' - kind of thing. It wasn't a happy conversation and these people had a certain amount of class and didn't want to broadcast their issues. I didn't particularly wish to hear it either, but I did catch that snippet.

Enough to know that even with all that they had, it was still not enough to bring them happiness. I'm sure they weren't in utter misery, but then again, they were not full of the joys of summer.

And if you can't be full of the joys of summer when you have a family like that, money, etc. etc. when can you be happy?

The wife looked a little haggard. I don't think she was old, having two barely teenage daughters and just having another 1-2 year old baby as well. But it was a real insight in to the seasons and cycles of life. One day, those beautiful young girls would grow up, and very probably be totally '10' stunners. Then they would age. Then they would end up looking something like their mother there: haggard. Who knows.

It was an interesting way to spend an hour waiting for a bus. I caught my bus.

At the bus stop, I asked a beautiful teenager (probably about 16 again) if this was the bus I needed as I realised that I had now hit the stage of life where I could not read the bus timetable without my glasses. A milestone of getting older and with all this incredible youth around me. She had the biggest smile in the world. She couldn't help me enough. What an absolutely beautiful young lady. So pleasant. Not yet tainted. Not yet employing her inner lizard brain. A smile to launch a thousand ships. She really touched me with her warmth.

All this reminded me of just how much I truly love women.

The freshness. Their fragrance that wafts in the summer breeze. Not chemical like a perfume, but flowery as a freshly bloomed rose. The sheer innocence. The overwhelming need to protect them, whether young child, or daughter, or girlfriend or wife. The fact you would protect them with your life. This beauty, this testament to an existence of God. These Goddesses themselves with God within them...

This particular young lady got off at a bus stop in the middle of the rural country. And a cold chill went down my spine. My shadow side rised up. No cameras. A long winding road. No witnesses to a bad man in a white van...

The thought that there are some men out there that would defile all that is good and holy in this world (and it doesn't get gooder or holier than that), that would, you know... brought me back to reality and reminded me of this world that I live in. That we all live in and share. I said a little prayer for her, this angel of light, that had lifted my spirit up on her wind-wisped wings.

Demons stalk this land.

But then we have the lizard women to deal with as well.

It's not easy.



(09-06-2019 01:56 PM)MichaelWitcoff Wrote:  As a general rule, men become what women reward. When being the party guy alpha chad is endlessly rewarded with as much sexual adventure as a man can handle, and being a good boy beta husband is as cruelly punished as it's possible to do, then guys are going to stop working towards being the latter and either become the former or drop out completely. Clown world is simple to understand: bad behavior is rewarded and good behavior is punished. This is done intentionally, with malice, by the vampires and parasites burning our society to the ground. But as I've said many times before - if women began to reward chivalrous behavior, every man in America would become a gentleman overnight.


I was going to reply to some points here, but I think I just shot my bolt.

Even the alpha chad is not truly happy. I remember it bringing me a kind of misery to have so many options, to be able to 'take my pick' so much. Not that I was ever a chad or alpha as such.

But I decided to settle down and I did get a great LTR pretty soon after. And then I realised that that was the way forward. The sex was out of this world amazing and it felt good to have companionship and be respected. Some of the women that would pick me up just saw me as a sex object, though a few offered to leave their boyfriends for me. I always declined. It was one thing to have a cheeky encounter, but another thing altogether to break up a relationship. Of course it was still wrong and I wouldn't do that today, but I had a different set of morals back then. But at least I had some morals...

Some of the women I turned down as well when I was in that LTR was just insane. I was on fire, in my prime. I was just picking and choosing. I had a rep around town and lived the dream life that all men aspire to: to have a hunting ground where you can go out in the evening (or even the day) and know you are coming back with something special at night. Taking them back to your townhouse that you share only with your younger brother, who is also slaying. Mates with the bouncers in the main nightclubs in town. Protection. We pull 'em, they fuck 'em. More than enough to go around. Abundance. Land of plenty. The garden of eden of pussy.

Mercedes and Audi car to pick them up in and drive them home (or take them in to the mountains a 15 minute drive out of town and look down on the city with all those bright lights while you both fuck each other's brains out in the back seat or maybe over bonnet if the weather is good). Several women on the go. This is in my teens, and it only got better in my early twenties. Even getting glassed and having my eye taken out in a club didn't hold me back. A quick prayer, and a swift answer from God, and I was back on the 'game', so to speak. I even got my eye back with 20/20 vision. Now, that is luck. That is to be blessed.

And no money! Keep that in mind. You don't need money when you are young and you at least have a flash car. What do you need money for?

There were times I would be out with a girl in a club and another would walk in who I knew, and I'd drive the other girl home, perhaps fuck her to keep her happy or perhaps not, then go back to the same club an hour later to hook up with the other girl. Of course the new girl didn't mind. She took it as a compliment. The girl who got taken home early probably wouldn't see it like that though. Only did that a couple of times, so thankfully never got caught.

And I would go out, and women would come in to town and see me with all these beautiful women. Dozens of them. Like I was some kind of pop star. Which of course I was, kind of. But it wasn't that either. Like I said, I was just tall enough and just handsome enough and just cocky enough whilst still being interesting and humorous. They would buy me drinks. Hell, sometimes they would have to pay for the petrol home coz I was so broke, but hey, it was cheaper than a taxi!

It got so mad at one point that I didn't choose them on what they looked like, I would choose them on what they were wearing. Yeah, like those six inch high heels. Love that tight leather dress. Really love that tight black latex dress...

What a time to be alive.

Then, life.

You get older. You didn't make the commitment. You passed up so so many girls that wanted you to wife them up. And you end up lonely. The female equivalent of the proverbial cat lady, except I collect guitars to fill the deep dark void in my empty soul, not animals.

All one can do is not become embittered. Believe me, those memories count for nothing but to taunt you.

I've lived a life few men can dream of. It's the stuff of a Jackie Collins novel. Unbelievable, until you've lived it.

But it's not all my fault.

You reach a certain age where you decide to settle down, but the women have changed. No longer are they these 'angels of light' - they are watching, looking through you, employing their inner lizard brain. Always reckoning. Never letting up. Never giving room to breathe. Never forgetting. Always punishing to the maximum of what they can get away with. Cruel.

Getting married is a young man's game. Don't leave it too late.

Sure you'll need a bit of cash, but when you reach a certain age, you will always be economically unattractive compared to the next guy with the fat wallet and fast car.

Women are never happy.

To be a happy man you must become a miner. You will need to hit the mother lode to find that rare nugget.

Now, uncle Rigsby is not going to tell you they don't exist, just like he wouldn't tell young kids of a certain age that there is no Santa Claus.

But let me just say this:

"Eh, there ain't no sanity clause!"


Get your tools out boys, and start digging! Whip


What you are looking for can never be bought.

You will never be good looking enough.
You will never be rich enough.
You will never be tall enough.
Your family will never be supportive enough and from the right kind of stock.
You'll never be alpha enough.
You'll never have that car that is quite sexy enough (Lambo, Ferrari, Aston).
Your dick will always be an inch too short compared to Chad and Tyrone.
You'll never be funny enough like Bill Hicks or Lenny Bruce.
You'll always have your dark days and your own demons to wrestle with.
You'll always have problems that come from nowhere and test you to your limit.
You'll always be a man, and will have to own that with all that it entails.

What you are looking for is not above this earth, it is buried deep within...

And most important of all, and I can't stress this enough, please be prepared, and be ready, and be able to recognize it when you find it.
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@Eazy_E I'm with you. I'm relatively successful career and education wise but I prefer to keep cost of living low and jump from job to job with periods of unemployment in between. I stay with my mom in the interim. I do pay her rent it's not the most ideal but it's nice to have a home base.

I realized that commiting to an LTR would mean I have to live up to a certain image that women expect. If you're not a Chad (I'm not, if I was I would've never signed up for this forum) then women have a long list of standards that you have to meet. Even then she will always be looking for the next best thing.

In my early 30s, my philosophy with women has become casual and occasional .
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(09-06-2019 03:38 PM)Days of Broken Arrows Wrote:  
(09-06-2019 09:25 AM)monsquid Wrote:  "Additionally, women on both the low end and high end of the socioeconomic spectrum face a harder time finding an economically compatible mate."

What's going on here? You would think that the women on low end would be happy to find anyone who makes more money, excuse me 'economically attractive,' than themselves. This just shows you how delusional women are.

Like Greg Adams says on YouTube, once she's had a taste of Chad or Tyrone on the cc, she can never go back. Yes, even when it makes all the sense in the world to be with that decent normal guy when she's dead broke and hitting the wall at 180mph going backwards, she will still harbor dreams of trying to lock down her dream Chad or Tyrone. Of course they want nothing to do with her.

The Clash wrote about this in their 1980 song "The Magnificent Seven," which had a lyric that was a first-person account of a workingman's day:

"She's seen the ad
She thinks it's nice
Better work hard
I've seen the price."


When you have a society inundated with advertising, even the lower-class women want "sophistication" (to use a word from that song). The situation has gotten worse with the popularity of cable TV's "Real Housewives" shows and social media sites pushing other's people's wealth in everyone's faces.

Strummer might have been a commie/socialist, but he was extremely insightful and a lot of his ideas still ring true. What doesn't ring true is the crappy mastering job they did with The Clash's music. They seem to have rolled off all the treble and compressed it to death. Here's "The Magnificent Seven," but if you really wanna hear this stuff in hi-fi, track down the original vinyl.





I got the vinyl version of this on Sandinista (triple album). I always found it badly mastered too, but more in the hard upper mids rather than having high frequency roll off. Might have been the stereo though. I was playing it on Technics 1210 with Ortofon, no tell a lie, Stanton 500 cartridges iirc (not that it matters). My speakers were shit, but they were big and they were fuck loud.

Best of all, I'd be playing all this shit after a night out in Brixton, just down the road from Brixton where I lived, different places including Tulse Hill.

We'd go to the tourist traps like the Dog Star and that was cool and trendy. Got my bollox felt by some nice young French girls. Sexually assaulted in fact, but never mind, I've kind of got over it. Met this 6'1 Dutch bird that I'd picked up on the tube a week earlier, didn't know she would be there. With my brother. He picked up a 4'5 Turkish girl - quite a mix!

Hung out with Richie Hawtin's gig promoter who I was at college with. Nearly got beat up in the toilets for having a 6' blonde bombshell big titted phat assed super model g/f. Happy days.

Used to hang out up the road in the Angel with all the black people playing reggae and whatnot. One turntable. Selector. Used to go there with my black rasta buddy with a gold tooth that drove a white BMW - go figure. Hung out there with white Dutch people who met black Dutch people at the bar and recognized each other when they started spitting and hacking up speaking Dutch. Good good days. Sun shining.

I'd like to say there was nice vibes but there was always an edge. Brixton.

The big black mama that ran that pub used to like me. Can't remember if I still had my locks then, but whatever. Would walk in, only white boy in the pub (it was pretty much a black pub) and try to get served. The other bartenders wouldn't serve me. Too white I suppose. Black people next to me kissing their teeth. Then big black mama appears like the angel she is out from the back: Whaddya warnt? She looks at everyone in the bar as if to say "Do not fuck with this white boy". I get a pint of the black stuff, which rasta roger likes too, and I thank her. Buy a few more beers. Enjoying the tunes. No bother. No one fucking with us after the matriarch spoke her wishes.

I'd go in there with white and black people. Men and women. It was a great pub. It's probably changed now.

Then back to play Sandinista on a bad but loud sound system. I remember playing a lot of Johnny Cash too.

Strummer was a bit of an asshole, but he was alright. Love the player, hate the game. He was as much a victim of marxist indoctrination as anyone. Mick Jones plays with one of my 'mates' from the Ants and I think maybe with one of the lads from Sputnik, who we knew briefly as well from elsewhere. There are worse crowds to hang with in that world. And they would always buy us bums a beer. So, there is that.

If Strummer had lived longer he might have articulated different things.

Hating the Clash is like hating the Boomers for inventing the internet. Yeah, assholes in one way, but not all bad. And who are we to judge. Life might have dealt us a raw deal, but comparatively and relatively, we have electric guitars and telescopes and clean drinking water, and internet forums to chat shit to no one who really cares, except maybe the odd person who finds some of this amusing.

Gonna have to end with at least one of my fave tracks from Sandinista:

(and no I won't choose 'guns of brixton')

This one is good -






Not the best 'mastering'. But there ya go...
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Even as a poor man, with proper game and working out you can still get girlfriends. Those "career" type women are actually not going to be as interested in money since they have it. And if you make it clear up front that you don't care about money, then she can decide if she cares about being with a poor man or not.

Given how poor men have become this generation, due to the religion of feminism enforced by our Jewish overlords, and the complete lack of Christian faith to counter it, career women don't have much of a choice in this matter. They either learn to like poor men or they go alone and single.

Personally, once I hit the bare minimum of money needed to survive, I've always been able to get girls and even find great women. I'm with one right now. It's not impossible, but don't sweat it if you can or cannot find "the right girl who doesn't care if her man has money." Just have fun and if you find a pure girl, then you can keep her like I'm trying to do. What's to lose?

The lack of incentives work both ways - the man has little incentive to produce, and career women have little incentive to date rich men (it's an overcrowded market packed with whores/sluts). As a man, just go for the girl you want and never care about money.

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(09-06-2019 05:20 PM)Samseau Wrote:  I'm with one right now. It's not impossible

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(09-06-2019 04:20 PM)Deepdiver Wrote:  ...

No way he ever puts the family fortune at risk via marriage. Everything has long ago been setup in Real Estate Trusts that any nuisance lawsuits can not penetrate

...

These strategies would have never occurred to our Grandfathers as were unnecessary back in the day. Women have only their feminist SJW hypergamy - being themselves to blame.


Deepdiver. I've been meaning to relay this message to you for a while. I considered PM, but that might put a bit too much gravitas with it, so I'll just throw this out here as we are having a bit of a free for all tonight, whilst still remarkably staying on topic. This is very much on topic.

There is a guy that got divorce raped bad. I mean bad. Real fucking bad. His ex-wife has poisoned his son to him and bankrupted him - lost his home, everything. He had cancer too which it took him years to beat. He's a fucking trooper. He's a deep diver like you: Nuclear subs. He used to maintain the Nuclear Reactor on the boat.

This is his website:

http://radified.com


His whole life story is there, but you'll have to dive deep to find it. Pictures, words, tears...

What this guy had done to him is beyond divorce rape, it's a form of mental torture and outright abuse. The sort of thing that drives a man to suicide.

I found his website when I was doing my computer science degree. He was kind of ahead of the game and gave the best tutorials for messing with windows hard drives. But he would link to stuff and aggregate stuff too. He was always responsive to any questions. A really great, giving, generous guy.

He would mention how much he loved his wife (probably pedestalized her a bit too much) and most of all his young son. And what a great place they lived in. Dream land. Then it all came crashing down. She screwed him harder than hard. See the photos of their house. It's hard to lose that, your wife, your son, your health.

The website is pretty much defunct now.

He doesn't beg for money. Though he has a donation page iirc. Which I am going to donate to when I get my finances sorted - it's the least I can do - it won't be much, but it will be something.

He has a few good pages as well with interesting stories about his time on the nuke subs. You might find it interesting.

But this is a warning to all men, about becoming 'economically unattractive'. Hell, it wasn't even that for him. His wife just started fucking about. And then decided to take the kid after bankrupting him. Then a bit of torture on top when he had Cancer to try to finish him off.

This is not a story for the light of heart.


Maybe you would like to head over there Deepdiver and give a fellow deep diver a bit of moral support. I don't know. I just had to bring it to your attention. Now seemed as good a time as any.

He's a true warrior and has come through all of this by his own mettle. He's not looking for anything from anyone. But I think a kind word might just be a bit of a tonic for him. I hope he's alright. I'm sure he'd love to hear from you.


http://radified.com


He's a very very clever guy as you would expect someone who 'fixes' and maintains nuclear reactors to be. He's also got impeccable morals and a deeply 'spiritual' outlook on life. Without being 'spiritual' new age bollox if you know what I mean. I think he might also be a Christian.

His story is absolutely brutal and heartbreaking and he has the balls, or rather, 'had the balls' to regale it all in some detail. I think he's done now. Life is very hard for him. Last heard from in March. I must contact him myself.

But this goes for any other men reading this. Read his story and weep. It wouldn't take much for you to drop him a mail and say 'hi'. He's a warrior. A deep boat diver. Divorce rape and Cancer survivor. I want to be a bit more together when I reach out to him and send him a small donation. I'm not good with small talk with men in the kind of position he is in.

No matter how bad you have had it, this guy has had it ten times worse.

One last time:

http://radified.com



Anyway, open letter to Deepdiver. Hopefully it will find its way to him.


Message of reality with regard to the true nature of women, to all men.



Toughen up motherfuckers. This 'game' is not a game!
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I'm about as economically unattractive as humanely possible, but I feel it's gone the opposite way. No woman on the planet, even the 6's should remotely see any value in me, yet I'm dating a girl working a 6 figure finance job. Every few days, I briefly wonder when they will realise how bad of an investment I am, an yet it never seems to come. Women are truly retarded.
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(09-06-2019 09:25 AM)monsquid Wrote:  "Additionally, women on both the low end and high end of the socioeconomic spectrum face a harder time finding an economically compatible mate."

What's going on here? You would think that the women on low end would be happy to find anyone who makes more money, excuse me 'economically attractive,' than themselves. This just shows you how delusional women are.

Like Greg Adams says on YouTube, once she's had a taste of Chad or Tyrone on the cc, she can never go back. Yes, even when it makes all the sense in the world to be with that decent normal guy when she's dead broke and hitting the wall at 180mph going backwards, she will still harbor dreams of trying to lock down her dream Chad or Tyrone. Of course they want nothing to do with her.

Heartiste used to occasionally mention that lower class female obesity had stopped lower class women from marrying upwards. I would like to see this study re-weighted for the weight of the women studied.
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(09-06-2019 04:20 PM)Deepdiver Wrote:  ...

These strategies would have never occurred to our Grandfathers as were unnecessary back in the day. Women have only their feminist SJW hypergamy - being themselves to blame.


This last point reminded me of something I wanted to say in my last overly long posts.

Yeah, nature, yeah natural selection, yeah DNA, yeah R/K selection? Yeah, natural selection.

We've reached a point where there is no sanity any more. Not just in the social realm, but in the reproductive realm as well.

White women just worked themselves out of a job.

Always loved my black girlfriends saying to me, yeah, I love you white boy, but ain't no way me and you bringing 'black' babies in to this world. It was a statement of intent as much as a statement of fact. As much as a statement of biological fact.

They would say to me: I'm a black woman, I want to have a black baby. If you were super rich and 'sayin' someting' then ok, I could go for it. But till then, you ain't sayin' nuttin' brother. You're a good fuck, a funny guy to be around, I enjoy my time wit' you, but it ain't goin' nowhere brother.

Damn, I miss dem bitches!

Okay, funny way to raise a serious point.

Those bitches knew what time it was if nothing else.

Can you imagine a white woman parlaying like dat, sorry, that?

One side of the coin.



But more than all that is the fact that women in general seem to have just fucked the whole lot anyway.

I know we are supposed to be getting away from all that 'woman hating' MRA stuff and moving on and finding God and all that. And we are. But the more you take responsibility for your actions, the more you can trace back what led you to those actions in the first place.

Women have fucked themselves out of a job.

They have bred a nation of man-children. Of thugs. No middle ground for men like me. I'm not a man child nor a thug. No room at the inn.

What is this world that the natural selection has opened up?

All the real men, I mean hard lads who can have a row, they are out robbing old grannies and doing home invasions. Beating the shit out of the police, while the police is full of gay midget 'mystery meats' who may or may not share or resent you for your particular ethnicity. No offense to 'mystery meats' some of my best friends are Brazilian. You get my point.

What kind of fucking world has this natural selection of brutal men produced?

It's fucked. I'm starting to think we need eugenics and not natural selection. Isn't eugenics the very antithesis of Darwinism? I don't know. I'm a fucking dumb arse.

But if I am starting to figure this shit out, you can bet that a whole load of other motherfuckers are beginning to figure this out.

And the best part is, white women are the ones most unlikely to breed outside their race. The black girls might want to keep their babies black, but the white wahmens want to keep their babies whiter.

Black women will breed outside their race more than a white woman will. Correct me if I'm wrong.

But yet, through not breeding at fucking all, white women just destroy their race as much as much as if they had partook in miscegenation.

At least black women are honest. To themselves at least.

What the fuck are white women, apart from fucked in the head?

Sorry fellas.

The more I look at it, the more I want a black girlfriend/wife.

These white bitches be crazy!
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Good thing men have more leeway regarding this as they can provide and protect their family longer than women have fertility. And can marry younger women who are still within the limited fertility window.

And they dont run out of fertility like women do.
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Women only marry up.

Well, turns out there aren't that many "up" men anymore.

Maybe they should quit their jobs to rebalance the scales?
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Some economists already predicted this because most corporate jobs favor women. Women in many cities already make more money than their under 30yo male counterparts. That spells disaster for the future.

Now they complain about it and blame men - of course they do, but the reality is that they are to be blamed for it on top of the giant sprawling diversity and immigration industry.

And women don't like to marry down, but always marry up. Pure math should tell you that they cannot marry up if they are on average better off than their male 30yo counterpart.
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The future belongs to Sub Saharan Africans, Arabs,
Latins, Southeastt Asians, and Indians anyway. They're the ones who are gonna be fighting over who gets the pick the carcass after those of European descent are bred out of existence. A native born French woman will have one, maybe two children in her lifetime. A Turkish , Syrian, or Somali woman will have 5 or more. I used to work with a Somali kid, his father sired 13 children with three wives. And here's little old me beating off into a sock.

The future is written. I honestly just hope we can collectively hold it together for another 20-30 years so I can have some fun before it either all falls apart or the good Lord calls me home to my eternal reward.
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(09-06-2019 01:56 PM)MichaelWitcoff Wrote:  As a general rule, men become what women reward. When being the party guy alpha chad is endlessly rewarded with as much sexual adventure as a man can handle, and being a good boy beta husband is as cruelly punished as it's possible to do, then guys are going to stop working towards being the latter and either become the former or drop out completely. Clown world is simple to understand: bad behavior is rewarded and good behavior is punished. This is done intentionally, with malice, by the vampires and parasites burning our society to the ground. But as I've said many times before - if women began to reward chivalrous behavior, every man in America would become a gentleman overnight.

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(09-07-2019 03:17 AM)Eazy_E Wrote:  The future belongs to Sub Saharan Africans, Arabs,
Latins, Southeastt Asians, and Indians anyway. They're the ones who are gonna be fighting over who gets the pick the carcass after those of European descent are bred out of existence. A native born French woman will have one, maybe two children in her lifetime. A Turkish , Syrian, or Somali woman will have 5 or more. I used to work with a Somali kid, his father sired 13 children with three wives. And here's little old me beating off into a sock.

The future is written. I honestly just hope we can collectively hold it together for another 20-30 years so I can have some fun before it either all falls apart or the good Lord calls me home to my eternal reward.

It's all just speculation. As quickly as the 3rd worlders came on the scene is as quickly as they could go away. Remember, it was Europeans who subsidized it, and now they're falling away ... you know what that means. What happens when inner cities lose all their services and welfare?

LOL, whatever can't continue, won't.

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(09-07-2019 02:52 AM)JiggyLordJr Wrote:  Women only marry up.

Well, turns out there aren't that many "up" men anymore.

Maybe they should quit their jobs to rebalance the scales?

The logical conclusion. Whether it be a single mother on welfare or one of the richest women in Ireland: A financial dead-end.

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(09-06-2019 01:56 PM)MichaelWitcoff Wrote:  As a general rule, men become what women reward. When being the party guy alpha chad is endlessly rewarded with as much sexual adventure as a man can handle, and being a good boy beta husband is as cruelly punished as it's possible to do, then guys are going to stop working towards being the latter and either become the former or drop out completely. Clown world is simple to understand: bad behavior is rewarded and good behavior is punished. This is done intentionally, with malice, by the vampires and parasites burning our society to the ground. But as I've said many times before - if women began to reward chivalrous behavior, every man in America would become a gentleman overnight.
This reminds me of a bishop Fulton Sheen quote-

“When a man loves a woman, he has to become worthy of her. The higher her virtue, the more noble her character, the more devoted she is to truth, justice, goodness, the more a man has to aspire to be worthy of her. The history of civilization could actually be written in terms of the level of its women.” -FJ Sheen

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(09-07-2019 02:59 AM)Simeon_Strangelight Wrote:  Some economists already predicted this because most corporate jobs favor women. Women in many cities already make more money than their under 30yo male counterparts. That spells disaster for the future.

Now they complain about it and blame men - of course they do, but the reality is that they are to be blamed for it on top of the giant sprawling diversity and immigration industry.

And women don't like to marry down, but always marry up. Pure math should tell you that they cannot marry up if they are on average better off than their male 30yo counterpart.

Corporations have quotas they must fill, which include women and minorities. The only people that have to compete solely on merit are white men.
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(09-06-2019 03:38 PM)Days of Broken Arrows Wrote:  The Clash wrote about this in their 1980 song "The Magnificent Seven,"



What comes to mind is George Harrison's Got My Mind Set on You. For someone supposedly above it all, it was rather pragmatic about the cost to win a woman's affections.





"It's gonna take money...a whole lotta spending money....it's gonna take plenty of money..."

(09-07-2019 10:37 AM)N°6 Wrote:  ...one of the richest women in Ireland: A financial dead-end.
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