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RE: Next level violence in downtown Minnesota
(09-14-2019 05:06 AM)Constitution45 Wrote:  Shocks me sometimes how Westerners are lacking massively in situational awareness.

I don't want to 'victim blame' but why was he chilling next to a group of gang bangers ?

I saw this in London all the time, as you have middle class people living next to council estates (housing projects). Middle class whites walking around with their phone out infront of Somalian drug dealers. Almost purposely putting themselves into the line of fire by sitting next to them, like they want some sort of interaction to prove or disprove their beliefs. Seriously that is how they think, these idiots are complete narcissistic fools who have no common sense.

As for the attack, again that is standard for your average Western city nowadays. I would go a step further and even your small towns now. The small towns in England now have the same thing playing out, and the police coverage is close to nil. Further to that if you were to go down the long process of going to court and getting a conviction. You are probably talking about a suspended prison sentence if it is a juvenile (Which a lot of them are). I am talking for serious assaults here let alone robberies.

Which goes back to my original point. The board game is different now, I would say it has been for some time but now it is manifesting more openly, especially with the prevalence of social media. Your law abiding average joe has to develop their situational awareness at the very least, and learn some form of martial art.

If you were to say this openly however people would accuse you of being some sort of paranoid fanatic who is worse than the predators out there carrying out the assaults.

Yep. If I was sitting there and that kind of people sat next to me I'd just move. You can see from their clothing and general vibes that they're not friendly.
09-14-2019 03:19 PM
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(09-14-2019 03:19 PM)Pete Wrote:  Yep. If I was sitting there and that kind of people sat next to me I'd just move. You can see from their clothing and general vibes that they're not friendly.

That can start trouble too. Now they have an excuse to accuse you as racist and start shit. That happened to me with a well known bum in Minneapolis. He asked me for the time (I knew it would lead to begging) so I kept walking. He slapped me on the back of the head. I could of kicked his ass but I just got distance and followed him and called the cops... he was arrested for disorderly because I didn't press charges.

As much as I believe in conceal carry its really not a good option. Whether justified or not you're probably going to be arrested if you deploy it anyway unless you're in a small town that votes red. You're going to have to prove yourself innocent and you'll be left with 10's of thousands of legal debt, your name all over the news as being a racist, and no job. I'd rather take an ass kicking then have that.

Krav Maga training is worth every penny. It teaches you to strike hard and fast and GTFO quick. Pepper spray is a good option but you're going to get it in the face too. If you carry pepper spray... you need to have a friend spray you in the face first so you know what to expect.

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The most important thing to avoid these situations however: The gym. Posture. Look masculine. These street monkeys pray on who they presume to be weak.

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(09-13-2019 02:09 PM)Eazy_E Wrote:  Soooo....a bunch of socks and slides types are shooting dice in the street and you think it's a good idea to sit on the curb right next to them and pull out your iPhone xs and then bury your nose in Instagram and you're surprised you got jumped? He showed cheese and the rats came for it. Simple as that.

Maybe I'm a racist asshole and maybe they were going to Bible study right after their friendly dice game, but, for fuck sakes, under no circumstances ever, literally ever, would I stay by that group. They come, I go. They're already there, they get a very wide berth.

He did what every liberal progressive is taught to believe in. He put his beliefs to good use behaving as he would among a bunch of Minnesota Whites.
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(09-14-2019 02:45 PM)Easy_C Wrote:  
(09-14-2019 04:10 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  Watch how it plays out when gunfire starts unexpectedly in a crowd of these people, even during a fight. They spook and begin to scatter (whites, oddly, seem to just stay where they are and wonder what's going on).

God forbid you find yourself in that situation and you have a gun, you draw it and dump three shots into the space between two guys, then run like hell.

No, I'm not a lawyer and no, they'll never teach you that in a lawyer-approved CC course because those courses are made by lawyers to conform to a fictional world.

Rule number one. Don't get killed. Everything else is secondary.

Where is that advice coming from?

Generally something like "shooting at the ground" just communicates "I am not willing to kill you". They are and that means you've just given them control of the situation.

I didn't say to shoot at the ground. I said to shoot at them and "miss", then use then ensuing panic to run.

Read the post properly.

I really think Americans have some kind of national Stockholm syndrome where their captors allow them to have guns in order for them to beat their chest about how free they are when in reality they're the most cucked civnats in the world bar maybe the Brits and the Swedes. Suffice to say if you're going to spend every precious half second between the time you can draw and the time you get stomped permanently into a wheelchair figuring out why it's better to just become another victim then, yes, best not to carry a gun because it will just end up being in the hands of Dindu and his friends.

What on earth is the point of the second amendment? You guys are getting killed on the streets by functional Zulu invaders and the national penny still hasn't dropped.

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(09-14-2019 10:39 PM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  I didn't say to shoot at the ground. I said to shoot at them and "miss", then use then ensuing panic to run.

Brandishing a firearm is a felony in most states which will result in considerable penalties and loss of firearm rights... possibly for life. Pulling your gun out without the purposeful intent to kill someone is not a wise option. If you draw you better be ready to kill.

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Consider all guns to be always loaded.
Never point a firearm at something you are not willing to destroy.
Keep your finger off the trigger until you've made your target and are prepared to shoot.
Mind your background.

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Whats the law on shooting into the air?

Thats what a Brit spy did when surrounded by IRA supporters. The crowd initially scattered. (Then he heard the 'dead man's click' as magazine dropped out of the gun. The crowd surged back. He was dragged from his car and killed.)

As far as shooting into the ground, that's what British Col. Tim Collins did when faced by angry looters in Basra, Iraq. The crowd scattered.

(*Both of these soldiers were retrospectively seen as having chequered abilities in general when faced with crises, but I digress.)

I would guess that these pond scum would run on the sound/sight of an itinerant hobo (no snowflake millennial that one) popping off a firearm.

At the same time I agree with the phrase "Having a weapon makes you more dangerous, it doesn't make you safer.."
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Unfortunately, people tend to blame the victim, because believing he made some mistake, makes them feel more secure because they are convinced they won't make the same "error". This is what they call false security.

For example, situational awareness is overrated. I remember once I saw a hood rat over a half block away coming towards me and I calmly crossed the street to walk on the other side. He just crossed the street too and walked past me and said hi. He was just showing me that he can cross a street too. He didn't try anything because he was alone. So much for situational awareness.

Also recently I was sitting on a bench, and when I got up to go, a vicious dog came out of nowhere and attacked me. I have sat at this same spot hundreds of times and there is nothing around. I still can't figure out where the dog came from.

Shit happens instantly and there is nothing you can do to prevent it. The only thing that has saved me so far is that I am good at thinking on my feet and quick to act.

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Lotsa people dead or crippled who probably would have preferred risking some jail time over ending up dead or crippled. Cuck life ain't gonna be much consolation when you're struggling to put a sentence together. Cuck life ain't gonna be much consolation when your wife and kids are standing next to your grave or watching you roll up your fresh new disability ramp steering your wheelchair with your mouth.

"Son, I know this looks bad but what's important is that I followed the law and my McCC instructors brainwashing. Now please give your mother a break and take your turn wiping my tooshie. Daddy made doodoo again."

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(09-15-2019 12:29 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  Lotsa people dead or crippled who probably would have preferred risking some jail time over ending up dead or crippled. Cuck life ain't gonna be much consolation when you're struggling to put a sentence together. Cuck life ain't gonna be much consolation when your wife and kids are standing next to your grave or watching you roll up your fresh new disability ramp steering your wheelchair with your mouth.

"Son, I know this looks bad but what's important is that I followed the law and my McCC instructors brainwashing. Now please give your mother a break and take your turn wiping my tooshie. Daddy made doodoo again."

You're not risking "some jail time". You're risking alot of jail time. And being unemployable after the fact. I assume you're a white male. What happens when you shoot a younger black aggressor? If you're worth a mil plus maybe you can get out of it. More than likely you will be fucked up the ass, do serious time, and exit prison unemployable and broke.

Say you get exonerated best case scenario. You apply to General Dynamics. Your application goes to HR and the first thing they do is google your name. Leonard Neubache, a white male, shot and killed a black man. The article will show your shitty mugshot and the black guy when he was a child. You think they're going to let that application pass on to the department you applied to?

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For the love of god never fire 'warning shots' or 'shoot to miss'. This is a death sentence. You also run the risk of shooting the little old lady in the house over the road, or some other such catastrophe. You could still be charged with gross negligence manslaughter, attempted murder, all sorts of things. Worse, they may still charge you with it after you've had your arse kicked by a gang. Then all you've achieved is a prison sentence on top of a beating.

Never escalate unless you are prepared to follow through. The guy in question should have de-escalated - handed over his phone without retaliating, and done anything else calmly and reasonably to deconflict the situation - much as it may require swallowing your pride to do so.
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(09-15-2019 12:00 AM)Sherman Wrote:  Unfortunately, people tend to blame the victim, because believing he made some mistake, makes them feel more secure because they are convinced they won't make the same "error". This is what they call false security.

For example, situational awareness is overrated. I remember once I saw a hood rat over a half block away coming towards me and I calmly crossed the street to walk on the other side. He just crossed the street too and walked past me and said hi. He was just showing me that he can cross a street too. He didn't try anything because he was alone. So much for situational awareness.

Also recently I was sitting on a bench, and when I got up to go, a vicious dog came out of nowhere and attacked me. I have sat at this same spot hundreds of times and there is nothing around. I still can't figure out where the dog came from.

Shit happens instantly and there is nothing you can do to prevent it. The only thing that has saved me so far is that I am good at thinking on my feet and quick to act.
^I more or less agree with you H1N1. Hand things over and de-escalate.

Problem with that is, maybe they still wanted to give him a beating. As Sherman points out - plenty of people would be laying into him for being too passive. Or for living in North America. or for xyz..
The commentators don't seem to accept that things go wrong and that some situations are fucked in all directions.

You see that a lot on this forum with the "Don't Get Involved", "Don't Ever Get Involved" Crowd. Retrospectively wise.

As if One Size Fits All.

I've broken up muggings and gang beatings and have received my licks in the process, even been threatened with 2 counts of a Grievous Bodily Harm charge for saving one old guy. Happy that I did that.

Also had dealings with old ladies/ children and wild dogs/ horses.

The main rule is Act and Act Fast. You can rob people of alot of their momentum just by acting with twice the speed and violence that they are bringing to the situation.

Fight or Flight - just don't Freeze.

Bear in mind that was in the Uk where there were no guns, and very few guns in general.

Alot of my He-Man bravado could have gone south if things had been minutely different in all manner of ways. Add CCTV to things going wrong.. Then the wiser-than-thou pile-on would have started. I'm always skeptical of people who are experts from a keyboard.

The good burghers of RVF excepted (who I will accept as well-versed in the ways of the world and well meaning) I've noticed that the ones in real life trying to brow-beat me after the event with "you were lucky! you were very lucky!" a) always have a gut b) for all their posturing are as soft as shit
c) never have one genuine war story to their name. d) if offered out on the spot over their attempt to browbeat someone, will immediately shit themselves.

But then even good old Tyrus from The Five on Fox News. The Covington kids. The ex-wrestler said that the all the actors involved were in the wrong (?). He said that the kids had been 'stupid' and 'were lucky'. (I mean maybe they shouldn't have done their school cheer I suppose..)
But an awkward 16 year old encountering a bunch of scumbags for the first time? A situation his life couldn't have prepared him to handle?
He stands there and smiles awkwardly?

"My name is Tyrus and let me tell you I'm so tough. I grew up in a tough environment. These kids smiling awkwardly? They were stupid. They don't know anything.. they're not as tough as me.." It was more about his posturing than the Covington Kids.

Which is often the case.

Human beings struggle to accept that there isn't such a phenomenon as Good things happening to Good people, and Bad Things happening to Bad People. There's just Things and People.
And there is no one size fits all answer. Just general rules that apply more or, often, less. I am always skeptical of the hindsight crowd.
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^ I'm not suggesting that handing the stuff over would have guaranteed that he avoid a beating. It's quite possible they'd have lynched him anyway. It's just that *in those specific circumstances*, when you are already surrounded, you need a large amount of luck on your side anyway. All the opportunities to exercise judgement and skill went out of the window when he found himself in that close proximity to the gang.

That is why, specifically in those circumstances, a gun would not have been helpful. Look at the guys *behind and to the side of* him when he throws his punch. If he had gone for a gun, those guys would have grabbed him before he could use it. If one had him in a bear hug with the gun pressed into his side, they could easily have manipulated it and shot him repeatedly in the leg with his own weapon until he let it go.

Sometimes you have to pick the least bad option and then count on luck. Handing over his stuff and hoping that was the end of it was the best option available to this guy, in these specific circumstances. In other circumstances, for other people with different skills and life experience, a gun or physical violence may be more or less useful. Here, with this guy, there was one *least bad* option, and he didn't take it.
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Can we expect the NFL players to take a knee in protest on Sunday?

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You know you're screwed when the other guys are pedaling their bicycles over top of you

This form of bullying has got to stop.

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Disappearinh to grab a bicycle and run over a man pretty much already down and out... nice.
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I'm getting the sense that some of the dudes on this forum have spent their entire lives in gated communities.

So I think we can all agree that the best outcome would have been for Johnny White there to have never been in the vicinity of these savages in the first place.

But let me ask all the CC lawyers here convinced that the backdrop for every shot consists of a 50ft tall wall made of grandmas, and that if you just play along then these congoloids will refrain from harming you, and that at some point after the fifth kick to the head you're finally justified in drawing your firearm (but only if their shoes are steel capped), and that nobody is allowed to "brandish" a firearm because once drawn it has to be used to kill people or you're somehow breaking the law.

Let's pretend that he had some extremely pressing reason to be where he was. Contrive anything you like. Now I want you to watch that video. Presume it ends with a life-changing injury or ten. Now give me the time-stamp where he would be justified in drawing a gun and presumably shooting one or more of them, because as RIslander claims it's illegal to draw a gun and not shoot someone with it.

Give me the moment in the video exactly.

Now this post and the others I've left above are not simply idle chest beating. I've talked about this sort of stuff before and nothing has changed for the better in the meanwhile, particularly not in America. The age of civic nationalism is over, at least for the time being. There is no longer any expectation in these blue zones that you can simply obey the law and let the courts sort it out. There is also no longer any expectation that the thugs will stop at financial gain rather than simply being out for your blood. Sometimes it is demonstrably all they were interested in in the first place.

Ideally you move to places without goblins.
If you can't, then ideally you move to districts that are nominally goblin free and avoid the rest, but even this is no guarantee.
If for whatever reason you're stuck having to navigate areas with goblins then you have to stop pretending that you're in 1950's America with 1950's expectations of behavior and 1950's rule of law.

You wouldn't listen to a CC instructor's lawyer-driven hogwash if you lived in Brazil or South Africa or God forbid the Congo. Those guys look at that garbage and laugh. But for Americans in particular failing to adapt the Congoisation of parts of America will result in stuff like what happened to that man in the video.

The stark delusion Westerners have in the face of this is bizarre. RIslander for example didn't say "stop overreacting, you'd just end up with a few bruises". No, he balanced ending up as a quadriplegic as being better than going to jail or perhaps being unemployable in a high paying job. The reality of the consequences for tucking tail and going limp simply do not exist in the minds of most Americans as being real. They read stories about a black gang kidnapping a family then after robbing them they torture them, rape the women and kill them all, and they file it away in that neat little folder named "stuff that happens to fictional people". An entire generation born and raised in unprecedented peace have lost the capacity to imagine that one day they may have to choose between following the mandates of a hostile authority or choosing instead to take a course of action that saves their lives of the lives of their loved ones.

That delusion might not cost you today or tomorrow or maybe ever. If so then great. But things are getting worse (especially for Americans) and survival is increasingly going to depend on adapting your mindset to the new circumstances. Sometimes there are no good options and you have to instantly pick the least bad option you have or end up being supplied with the most bad option by the people who mean you harm. This is reality. If you doubt it then pay attention to the stories of people preyed on by these monsters and ask yourself if their tragic ending might not have come to pass if they'd earlier made the choice not to become victims by any means necessary.

The main reason that the McCC courses are such civnat garbage is because they are legally hamstrung when it comes to teaching real world pragmatism. Take any CC or OC shooting that was ruled justified and I could still pick out dozens of reasons the person should never have taken the shot. What they also can't tell you is the likely thousands of times someone has "illegally brandished" a firearm resulting in a non-event where the aggressor chose to leave and there was no police involvement whatsoever. There are no statistics for this because nobody is going to call the police and say "three thugs were coming towards me and I was pretty sure they were going to jump me so I illegally brandished my pistol and they decided to leave". You'd have to be some kind of stupid, not only to call the cops afterward but instead to wait until those three thugs jump you to reach for your gun.

That's the reality of living in a country where you're legally allowed to carry a gun but every law since the 1970's has been aimed criminalizing the use of it for your protection.

Adapt or suffer.

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RE: Next level violence in downtown Minnesota
Much of that post makes a different argument than the one RIslander was making, and distorts his point entirely.

You say it isn't chest beating, but the only person who advocates firing a warning shot at a guy 3ft away from them, or reaching for a concealed pistol when someone is that close to them, is the kind of person that has never found themselves in these circumstances. It is obvious fantasy to anyone who has actually experienced either any kind of military combatives training, active combat or extremely hostile environment. It is internet theorising from someone who clearly never expects to find themselves in these circumstances.

From that distance, an attacker has no choice but to go for the weapon. Clearly you can't outrun a bullet from 3ft head start. You force an attacker into a lethal confrontation from a position of extreme disadvantage.
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Paraphrasing here however common law dictates that you can use reasonable force if you believe that you are in danger or someone else is. This doesn’t exclude using a weapon. Fatally although it has to be deemed as reasonable due to the circumstances. Problem is having to prove that to the police afterwards. Most will be responding to a 999 call made by a member of the public and won’t know the full story. If a man is lying their on the door unconscious and covered in blood. You will most likely be arrested in the meantime to investigate the offence. Not always however, if it is made clear what happened.
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Instead of dictating where he can or cannot go, how drunk he can or can not get, and when he can and cannot pull out his cell phone, why don't we just teach these feral thugs not to rob/assault? Or is that just example #4719 of how it doesn't swing both ways when a guy's the victim.
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RE: Next level violence in downtown Minnesota
(09-15-2019 05:46 AM)H1N1 Wrote:  Much of that post makes a different argument than the one RIslander was making, and distorts his point entirely.

You say it isn't chest beating, but the only person who advocates firing a warning shot at a guy 3ft away from them, or reaching for a concealed pistol when someone is that close to them, is the kind of person that has never found themselves in these circumstances. It is obvious fantasy to anyone who has actually experienced either any kind of military combatives training, active combat or extremely hostile environment. It is internet theorising from someone who clearly never expects to find themselves in these circumstances.

From that distance, an attacker has no choice but to go for the weapon. Clearly you can't outrun a bullet from 3ft head start. You force an attacker into a lethal confrontation from a position of extreme disadvantage.

There are hundreds of videos of people like these drawing guns during a confrontation and I can't recall ever seeing a single one where the opposing street-thug's response was to grab for the gun.

Not one. Ever.

Can you find one?

Of the many I've seen the attackers simply run, if not at the sight of the gun then on the sound of the first shot. This is real world evidence of how these things play out. Not some hackneyed "I cooked meals and emptied latrines in Iraq for 5 years so I know shit" nonsense.

Just head on over to liveleak and see how it works for yourself.

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RE: Next level violence in downtown Minnesota
Forget all the gun talk and just follow this advice from John Derbyshire:

(10a) Avoid concentrations of blacks not all known to you personally.

(10b) Stay out of heavily black neighborhoods.

That’ll solve most of your problems. That being said, America is running out places to run to.
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RE: Next level violence in downtown Minnesota
Edit: forget it
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RE: Next level violence in downtown Minnesota
A few things about this video. First is the lack of situational awareness, but as some have said before, he was probably sitting out and got 'casually' surrounded by the predators. In these situations it's important not to show fear, but also to be ready to the obvious outcome. He tried to play it cool, checking his phone and was probably accessing the best moment to get up and leave, but the result would be the same, he would be confronted. As soon as he was surrounded he was fucked, some kind of confrontation would ensue.

After the 'first round', one thing catched my eye: how he though he could just lay down and rest/recuperate from the beating. It's when he's on the ground that the worst part came, they had just spread out, but when they saw him vulnerable on the ground, they came back for more. In these situations or any streetfight for that matter is important to never, NEVER stay on the ground, you must get up no matter what, unless unconscious you get up.

Running from such numbers is also not feasable, your fear instills them with courage and they will pursue you. You should, and of course it's much easier to say it than do it, immediately go out against the alpha of the group, in this case, he had to immediately face the guy in the red shirt.

I don't how it would played out, but sometimes the others just stop, either to watch the alpha in action and see him prove his status against a stranger or frightfull that someone dared to face their pack leader.

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(09-14-2019 10:39 PM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  I really think Americans have some kind of national Stockholm syndrome where their captors allow them to have guns in order for them to beat their chest about how free they are when in reality they're the most cucked civnats in the world bar maybe the Brits and the Swedes.

This is something I've tried to explain; I'm not ridiculing my American brothers, I'm trying to show them what's really going on.

I'm a huge believer in the principle and the right to self defence. The gun laws here in Canada are oppressive, and I support the second ammendment. However; what good is the right to carry a gun, if you're not allowed to use it? In America, you're allowed to purchase nearly anything you want, and you're even allowed to strap it to your back as a 'statement' when you go to Walmart, but the moment you wind up in a situation where you need to use it, the book's going to be thrown at you.

Self defence - with or without guns - is just as bad here. The system is more afraid of civilized, high-T men, then it is of criminals. At the end of the day, criminals are no threat to TPTB; but high testosterone men, with moderate wealth and families, are.

When you truly understand violence, you realize it's not about the weapon. It's an entire mindset. It's about whether or not you have the mental fortitude to force your will upon a situation, and the honesty to properly assess a situation - the kid in the video preferred to believe in the comforting lie of equality, despite the niggling worries that the gang of "youfs" was instilling in him. A gun alone will not work as a magic wand to keep the bad guys at bay; only the mental preparation to use force - fists, knives, or guns - will suffice. And the moment you do use force, you become a threat to the system.

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