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RE: Next level violence in downtown Minnesota
(09-16-2019 03:43 PM)911 Wrote:  1- the main thing here, which most have missed, is that none of the aggressors in that video were Somalis or migrants, the perps were of "heritage" afro-American stock. Somalis are light-skinned people with slight builts.
The names in the article linked confirmed this.

From the article:

Quote:Then on Sept. 6, after further investigation, officers recognized one of the assailants from the video and arrested him.
He is identified as Boris Likuwa Lusumbo, 20.

Heritage American?
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West African name, most likely Congolese, not Somali. The other names IIRC were 100% Ebonic American.

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This is what happens when you have too much welfare.

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(09-17-2019 01:14 AM)Hannibal Wrote:  This is what happens when you have too much welfare.

It has nothing to do with welfare. It has to do with what type of population gets welfare
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Hilrious take on the relevant take on a BBC program about the British knife crimes - blacks being highly over-represented.





Of course all of them are Dindus who only have poverty and toxic masculinity as the reason for all of it.

Oh - and maybe Piers Morgan coming out in support of Trump should have been somewhat of an indicator to everyone.
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As some other people have noted, this situation was completely avoidable. Some things to note however are that if you are on the ground and there is a group intent on doing you harm then you have the right to draw and shoot. If you are going to draw as some of you guys have pointed out, shoot with the intent of hitting your target. No warning shots. You are accountable for every bullet. Put a shot on each target before a follow up shot. 9mm is an effective round however it is all about shot placement, centre mass, to the pelvic girdle or the face will all drop someone.
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RE: Next level violence in downtown Minnesota
My mom passed on this lesson to me having grown up in the Soviet Union in the 70s and 80s, that if you see a large group of guys hanging around doing nothing, they are up to no good and will gang up on you and beat you to near death (or worse) for no reason whatsoever. They are also probably drunk/high and their hatred will be exaggerated. She saw it happen firsthand (white on white violence). They don't care who you are, as long as you are not one of them.

If you ever run into this situation and you are by yourself without many people around, GTFO! The guy in this video is simply too sheltered and doesn't have the real life experience nor awareness of dealing with the raw evil side of humanity, but now he does.
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(09-17-2019 06:54 AM)Simeon_Strangelight Wrote:  Hilrious take on the relevant take on a BBC program about the British knife crimes - blacks being highly over-represented.





Of course all of them are Dindus who only have poverty and toxic masculinity as the reason for all of it.

Oh - and maybe Piers Morgan coming out in support of Trump should have been somewhat of an indicator to everyone.

Akala is an unbelievable little creep. And he is Feted.. FETED by the media.
Personally I don't think his music is as good as its made out to be.
His sociology undergraduate political views? Treated like a prophet.
Which, as Dangerfield says, is incredibly racist given how inconsistent his arguments are.

He went on a Frankie-Boyle hosted love in for his race-baiting and there he went off about people calling migrants a 'swarm' or 'stampede'.
Because... ANY animal metaphor used to refer to people is a Nazi-ploy and ALWAYS, ALWAYS leads to the genocide of people so described.

And anyway, as he pointed out, its all just 'DOG-WHISTLE' rayyyy-cismm for UKIP and Brexit voters.

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20 People Arrested for Minnesota Robberies

https://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2019/09/1...robberies/
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(09-17-2019 02:58 PM)DamienCasanova Wrote:  20 People Arrested for Minnesota Robberies

https://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2019/09/1...robberies/

This one looks like they knocked out and robbed this guy at night....
Not the guy they practiced WWF moves on and used as a bike ramp in broad daylight
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(09-14-2019 11:06 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  If you shut your mouth and avoid the general area it happened in then there's fair odds you'll be fine.

a. Nobody gets shot. Crappy video = no cops interested since they have real murders to pursue.
b. Somebody gets shot but doesn't die, so they:
b.1 Don't go to hospital because they have warrants or stuff like that
b.2 Go to hospital but predictably don't co-operate with the police
b.3 Against all odds go to the hospital and co-operate with police to tell them, what, "some white guy shot me"?

Yes, this is the internet and we're supposed to pretend to be law-abiding civnat cucks but a lot of countries, the USA in particular, are going to keep travelling headlong into this ugly decline and the reality of the situation is that you have to start thinking outside the box.

"Do what my CC instructor told me to and then immediately call the police" will increasingly become a recipe for ending up behind bars for life, regardless of whether you were in the right.

There is a lot of "conventional wisdom" that may have made sense before globalization/the internet, but it is easy to see it is filled with holes with any amount of critical thought and research.
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Been reading Colin Flaherty's documentation of just how common (and played down) these types of attacks have become in the U.S. Sobering stuff.

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(09-17-2019 10:22 AM)CaptainChardonnay Wrote:  As some other people have noted, this situation was completely avoidable. Some things to note however are that if you are on the ground and there is a group intent on doing you harm then you have the right to draw and shoot. If you are going to draw as some of you guys have pointed out, shoot with the intent of hitting your target. No warning shots. You are accountable for every bullet. Put a shot on each target before a follow up shot. 9mm is an effective round however it is all about shot placement, centre mass, to the pelvic girdle or the face will all drop someone.

No offense intended, CC, but this is exactly the kind of foolishness I was talking about when I described concealed carry courses as lawyer driven nonsense.

You're seriously going to wait until your head is being used as a soccer ball to draw from a lying position and "put one on each of the attackers"?

If that's meant to be a viable strategy then best not to carry at all. You're only going to end up providing a loaded gun to the thugs. It's no surprise that none of the law-abiding John Wick wizards have taken me up on the offer to show at what point in the video the guy should have drawn. Their dogma doesn't cut it in real world scenarios.

Concealed carry in America for most users is like a man secretly wearing women's underwear. It's his saucy little secret and it makes him feel edgy but that's as far as the utility of it goes.

Dudes need to grow up and stop dangerously larping in the real and literal sense. There is no point carrying if the only thing you're dedicated to protecting with a gun is gun control laws. Pretty soon you're going to have guys getting mugged for their weapons who didn't draw because "my backdrop wasn't a perpendicular ten foot tall wall made of range-grade sand over old car tyres".

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RE: Next level violence in downtown Minnesota
The SJWs in reddit.com/r/Minneapolis are of course gloating about how it's NOT Somalis... completely ignoring the even more pathetic fact that it's not a newly arrived ethnic tribe from an anarchy state... but people that have been here hundreds of years and overwhelmingly depend on the state for handouts and special treatment.
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(09-17-2019 05:17 PM)Cr33pin Wrote:  
(09-17-2019 02:58 PM)DamienCasanova Wrote:  20 People Arrested for Minnesota Robberies

https://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2019/09/1...robberies/

This one looks like they knocked out and robbed this guy at night....
Not the guy they practiced WWF moves on and used as a bike ramp in broad daylight
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I never said wait until you are on the ground. I said being on the ground gives you the clear go ahead to draw and shoot.

I don't appreciate you mixing up my words to push your narrative.

You have to be able to justify your actions in front of the law.

When should he have drawn his gun? If you feel that your life is threatened then draw and shoot.

Whats my background? Ex military with law enforcement training for domestic and international operations.
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(09-17-2019 11:58 PM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  
(09-17-2019 10:22 AM)CaptainChardonnay Wrote:  As some other people have noted, this situation was completely avoidable. Some things to note however are that if you are on the ground and there is a group intent on doing you harm then you have the right to draw and shoot. If you are going to draw as some of you guys have pointed out, shoot with the intent of hitting your target. No warning shots. You are accountable for every bullet. Put a shot on each target before a follow up shot. 9mm is an effective round however it is all about shot placement, centre mass, to the pelvic girdle or the face will all drop someone.

No offense intended, CC, but this is exactly the kind of foolishness I was talking about when I described concealed carry courses as lawyer driven nonsense.

You're seriously going to wait until your head is being used as a soccer ball to draw from a lying position and "put one on each of the attackers"?

If that's meant to be a viable strategy then best not to carry at all. You're only going to end up providing a loaded gun to the thugs. It's no surprise that none of the law-abiding John Wick wizards have taken me up on the offer to show at what point in the video the guy should have drawn. Their dogma doesn't cut it in real world scenarios.

Concealed carry in America for most users is like a man secretly wearing women's underwear. It's his saucy little secret and it makes him feel edgy but that's as far as the utility of it goes.

Dudes need to grow up and stop dangerously larping in the real and literal sense. There is no point carrying if the only thing you're dedicated to protecting with a gun is gun control laws. Pretty soon you're going to have guys getting mugged for their weapons who didn't draw because "my backdrop wasn't a perpendicular ten foot tall wall made of range-grade sand over old car tyres".

Dude, whatever. This un-defended-aussie bullshit has gone on long enough. If you're carrying, it's up to you to do whatever.
I once got "what time is it"'ed at a party, and I was shoulder rig carrying, and I chose not to draw, and instead drunkenly stumble back inside with a bleeding eye.
If I had drawn and let fly (though I wouldn't know at what) then who knows what would have happened.

If you carry, you make your own choices depending on the then and there. Be it for good or bad.
It doesn't matter who says what on this forum, if you're carrying, you make your own fucking decision.

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I called it like I read it, no twisting, but again there is no legal obligation to shoot if you draw your gun. This is terrible advice that ends up prompting people to shoot guys in the back as they turn at the last moment. As someone who delved into these issues for the better part of a decade if you have the right to carry and use in self defense then you are entirely justified to draw when you feel threatened but not shoot, and then shoot only if the situation escalates.

Unfortunately we will never know how many situations have been successfully navigated by carriers drawing and NOT shooting because there are no statistics to cover incidents that the police are never involved in. Suffice to say I suspect the vast majority of successful self defense incidents involving concealed carry are a result of the gun being drawn and "brandished" but not fired.

But again, because there's no way to compile statistics on that then we can only speculate based on "after action" reports of anonymous internet people.

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Well sure, but how about just using common sense if you are carrying.

In the heat of the moment, you absolutely can make the decision to draw and fire, or not.
I was plastered drunk, and i did not. I am not a paragon, believe you me.
In my stupor, and being struck in the head (now have scar from it), I still made the cognition to path over to the house and get inside, like some Doom'94 bot. I KNEW I had a firearm, at that absolute moment of being struck, it was like I was following apples straight back to the house (if you've ever programmed pathing for ut2k4 bots).
If I had NOT been able to get back, and had been gang-banged, I have no idea if I would start letting fly.
When I had this happen, I was working at a firing range, and in my off time I would do cqw drills and draw-fire a LOT. I would even participate in the idpw events if i wasnt working that night.
I was prepped and hot to trot basically. Fuckin itching to get in that declaration-enforced action.
And yet, I didnt.
I looked back and see all the stuff I was doing, and in the heat of the moment, I just went back inside. Instead of grappling my assailant, drawing, pressing my firearm against him, and squeezing off as many as it would take (18+1) to end that situation.
Instead, I turned to my left, stumbled through the bushes, and went back inside.

It is what it is.

edit: I'm not trying to fight with you., I'm just trying to communicate the mind set of someone carrying and not. Either way, this is the internet, and real life has way of being completely different to the online world.
At the time of almst being mugged, I escaped away, exfiltrated. I got the fuck outta there instead of grappling, and laying down fire. I was fairly surrounded by "darker toned" individuals, myself being of fair complexion. In my defense, I banged I husky hued girl later that night, so I'm not racist,. -right?!?!

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I really appreciate real world examples. Personally I wouldn't drink when carrying but even then your circumstance allowed you to reach a safe haven relatively quickly rather than bleeding out on a back-alley pavement until someone bothered to call an ambulance.

Personally I think you made the wrong decision to drink and the right decision not to draw and in the end it turned out OK. And you're absolutely right that you have to make the call that suits the circumstances, which in that case you did. The laws involved and the odds of "getting caught" doing something illegal should never be circuit breakers on action. Only ever factors in your risk/reward analysis.

Going forward into the decline this is a reality that everyone is going to have to come to, just the way our ancestors inevitably had to when they lived under other oppressive regimes. People must abandon their slavishly vulnerable mentality to a system that cares nothing for them.

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Man, I dunno, yeah I was drinkin abd carrying, and at that time I didn't make those connections. It is what it is.
This is life though, and you do what you do to live it. Whether it be carrying in dank ass neighborhoods and situations or not. I watched the video, and the fella looked like he threw some punches after being robbed, then was in over his head before he knew what was really going on.
I don't carry anymore, cause I didnt renew my license, so if I'm in something like that, I hope I have the wherewithall to get the hell outta dodge. I know before I could've blasted my way out of a darkness surrounding, but now I'm pretty sure I'd just gtfo.

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(09-16-2019 03:56 PM)El Chinito loco Wrote:  I can also tell who did or didn't grow up around blacks. If you grew up around black (and latino) people you can't help but be redpilled involuntarily. You just see too much and by default you realize most of these people are ghetto trash with the worst impulses. The more you entertain their basic mindset the more they will just suck you down into their infinite morass.

It's easy to spot someone who grew up in the safe suburbs and has little exposure to the real world usually by the way they walk, dress, and most importantly how they 'carry' themselves. That's why when I went to university in another urban part of my state and had classmates who would speak out loud about their dad's boat and how they have hired domestic help at home, I was never surprised to hear every weekend someone or other got the shit kicked out of them and/or was robbed downtown near the campus.

My hometown is 99% latino, 9% black, and probably 1% white, if that. Even though I'm part latino, I look white and I learned fast the color or race you'll be identifying with is the one selected for you by others. You also learn racism against whites is real. If I watched the news or had no real world experience I'd think whitey is the devil.

Without knowing the full back story behind the video, it's idiotic to take a seat next to a group of ooga boogas. Not going there when it comes to whether or not they're Somali because that's speculation. They don't dress like fob Africans do though, in my experience. Then the kid flashes his phone, and if it's an iPhone it's just ignorant to do that in that situation. I don't care how fucking drunk I am, I wouldn't sit next to any large group where I don't know or am not close with at least the majority of them. It isn't inviting getting your ass kicked like that, but it's inviting something in an urban area. He didn't seem cognizant of where he was at all.
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RE: Next level violence in downtown Minnesota
AIU did a vid on the entire thing.

A few days after the incident in the thread another public robbery happened complete with face-stomping etc.

18 out of the 20 were arrested - most had been already in prison before.

But AIU is right - imagine if such things happened with the races being reversed. They would call for the extermination of Whites on all channels.



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(09-19-2019 02:19 AM)crystalcastle Wrote:  My hometown is 99% latino, 9% black, and probably 1% white

You hometown also appears to be inhabited by multidimensional beings who count as 109 people in only 100 bodies Tongue

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RE: Next level violence in downtown Minnesota
Didnt the guy who was telling a woman in a car not to park there get prosecuted for 20+ years for shooting a black guy because said black guy just came up and shoved him on his ass?

Goodluck not being murdered later on or harassed by the media if you're white when you shoot multiple blacks trying to kill you.
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