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RE: Alex Trebek and his bout with cancer
Sucking high fructose corn syrup down the gullet all day erryday.
09-20-2019 02:46 PM
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RE: Alex Trebek and his bout with cancer
(09-19-2019 07:37 PM)Kid Twist Wrote:  
(09-19-2019 05:14 PM)estraudi Wrote:  My parents are of the type of boomer that never exercises, eats like crap and expects a Dr. to magically fix things when their health, assuredly, goes wrong.

Yes, and somehow the medical system does. Think of it, your parents have and will live longer than 90% of the people that ever lived on the planet.

And at the same time, medicine is a "business" and a "scam".

Sign me up for that scam, man! I'll take one to go, too!

Let`s not forget that the dietary changes that have led to a reduction in life expectancy (in the US in particular) has come about quite recently. Mostly from the late 60`s into the 70`s. (post China study, Ancel Keys etc.)

Also, for most of human history (including the millions of years as hunter-gatherers) people died mostly from reasons unrelated to senescence. You could argue quite convincingly that most of the improvement in health and the increased longevity in the West has been due to improvement in technology/infrastructure unrelated to medicine, (clean water, sewage systems, safer food supply etc.) in addition to the vaccinations and general medical practice. Trauma and communicable disease treatment would be the best part of modern medicine, and still is to this day.

It`s certainly not all bad, but still quite terrible when you realize what could have been achieved by addressing the underlying dietary causes of most disease.

We will stomp to the top with the wind in our teeth.

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RE: Alex Trebek and his bout with cancer
I've recently come across this interesting stat about cancer: 97% of those with terminal cancer have reportedly had a root canal. The percentage of Americans with root canals is around 26%.

https://globalpossibilities.org/97-of-te...procedure/

I've had a root canal in my late 20s following a broken/chipped front tooth from mountain biking. I regret having done this, at that time the tooth was shaky but not dead.

The medical establishment and sources like Snopes dispute this link, but it's hard to know how much of it is true...

This is a bit off topic in this thread, I will cross post in the Life board.

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09-20-2019 04:01 PM
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"We" are/have been outkicking our coverage, and now the returner is breaking free.

Keep in mind that we have done all of this longevity and extension of life for just the AVERAGE person. Yes, think of it! We lambaste the average man/woman/child on here, daily.

Indeed, don't get sick. Food is the best medicine (Hippocrates). An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure. Etc.

In the coming years will see greater disparities in health, regarding longevity, vitality, youthfulness and more. What's the lesson?

Don't be average.

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09-20-2019 07:18 PM
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Agreed, the educated upper middle class and above will experience rising standards of living, while the rest will continue to decline as has been the general trend in the past few decades. Life is harsh, but that's the truth.

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09-21-2019 04:13 AM
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(09-20-2019 04:01 PM)911 Wrote:  I've recently come across this interesting stat about cancer: 97% of those with terminal cancer have reportedly had a root canal. The percentage of Americans with root canals is around 26%.

https://globalpossibilities.org/97-of-te...procedure/

I've had a root canal in my late 20s following a broken/chipped front tooth from mountain biking. I regret having done this, at that time the tooth was shaky but not dead.

The medical establishment and sources like Snopes dispute this link, but it's hard to know how much of it is true...

This is a bit off topic in this thread, I will cross post in the Life board.

Definitely a correlation and not causation type situation. Cancer is highly associated with the typical disease promoters; hyperglycemia, insulin resistance, T2D, obesity etc. The common denominator being a diet high in refined carbs.

As we all know it`s a high carb diet (hexose sugars) that is the cause of caries/tooth decay. Streptococcus mutants, lactobacilli acidophilus and candida albicans mainly ferment sugars, the byproduct of glycolysis being the organic acid lactate. This is what causes cavities! In addition to acidic drinks that might or might not have sugar in them also. So you would expect a strong correlation between cancer (+most other Western disease) and root canals and dental health.

The good news is that you can always change your diet, and "solve" both issue. Teeth can re-mineralize also, depending on various factors. (of course not if you already have fillings in place)

We will stomp to the top with the wind in our teeth.

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09-21-2019 11:18 AM
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(09-21-2019 04:13 AM)Blake2 Wrote:  @KidTwist
Agreed, the educated upper middle class and above will experience rising standards of living, while the rest will continue to decline as has been the general trend in the past few decades. Life is harsh, but that's the truth.

Yes Blake, the trajectory in nearly all topics we consider is in this direction. As time passes, this is the clear path, that of increasing disparities in all things. Which of course sets up the masses voting for more "free" in order to try to stake a claim on something, thereby giving up even more freedom to the state.

What remains to be seen is the quality of life for the average or "mass man" --- just what level will this be?. Will there really be medical treatment increasingly for Average Joe, or will famine or plague take a hit on the population? It's hard to imagine but very possible. The resources used by illegal or unproductive citizens, even if seen as a type of mercy, is unreal. I don't think the average taxpayer understands this, but at the same time, they don't get just how much debt is also racked up to keep the "system" going. They just have a vague idea.

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09-21-2019 11:26 AM
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RE: Alex Trebek and his bout with cancer
(09-19-2019 07:32 PM)Kid Twist Wrote:  
(09-19-2019 01:09 PM)RIslander Wrote:  Chemotherapy and Radiation Treatment are ineffective scams. They may let you cling on longer, in misery, but studies have shown they produce little to no positive effect.

I'm sad you believe this falsehood.

I didn't quote your first sentence but your lead betrays you. Of course, any service in an even quasi capitalistic environment can be a business. What isn't a "business"? People even refer to religions as businesses. You see what you want to see.

If Chemo and Radiation are "ineffective" and "scams" then why do people get cured? Why does the US have far better 5 year survival for nearly every cancer than in Europe? We spend a lot of money curing and making people live longer. Any debate on the worthwhile nature of that is a different issue.

Yes, pediatric cancers are "metabolic". Yeah, the 30 year-olds that got lymphoma and get cured had "metabolic" diseases. Come on man, you don't even know what a metabolic disease is. You just can't face up to the fact that life is how it is, and we have to die from something.

You need someone to tell you that you have been deceived.

I am that man.

I respectfully disagree. Many studies have shown chemo and radiation are likely to cause secondary cancers and there are no real studies that show you are more likely to survive with or without treatment. There aren't enough control groups other than those refusing treatment when already terminal to make a decisive decision.

This is an interesting article before the NYT became fake news: https://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/28/magaz...o-die.html

It's one person and its a feel good story that went viral years ago but there's science behind it. A diet high in natural fats, fish, lean meat and low on processed foods and sugar, combined with fasting time to time is the best way to beat/stay cancer free.

Fasting is particularly important as when you begin to enter starvation mode the first thing your body does is eat useless (including cancer) cells. A 24-48 hour fast and you've basically taken out the garbage.

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09-21-2019 11:49 AM
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(09-21-2019 11:49 AM)RIslander Wrote:  
(09-19-2019 07:32 PM)Kid Twist Wrote:  
(09-19-2019 01:09 PM)RIslander Wrote:  Chemotherapy and Radiation Treatment are ineffective scams. They may let you cling on longer, in misery, but studies have shown they produce little to no positive effect.

I'm sad you believe this falsehood.

I didn't quote your first sentence but your lead betrays you. Of course, any service in an even quasi capitalistic environment can be a business. What isn't a "business"? People even refer to religions as businesses. You see what you want to see.

If Chemo and Radiation are "ineffective" and "scams" then why do people get cured? Why does the US have far better 5 year survival for nearly every cancer than in Europe? We spend a lot of money curing and making people live longer. Any debate on the worthwhile nature of that is a different issue.

Yes, pediatric cancers are "metabolic". Yeah, the 30 year-olds that got lymphoma and get cured had "metabolic" diseases. Come on man, you don't even know what a metabolic disease is. You just can't face up to the fact that life is how it is, and we have to die from something.

You need someone to tell you that you have been deceived.

I am that man.

I respectfully disagree. Many studies have shown chemo and radiation are likely to cause secondary cancers and there are no real studies that show you are more likely to survive with or without treatment. There aren't enough control groups other than those refusing treatment when already terminal to make a decisive decision.

This is an interesting article before the NYT became fake news: https://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/28/magaz...o-die.html

It's one person and its a feel good story that went viral years ago but there's science behind it. A diet high in natural fats, fish, lean meat and low on processed foods and sugar, combined with fasting time to time is the best way to beat/stay cancer free.

Fasting is particularly important as when you begin to enter starvation mode the first thing your body does is eat useless (including cancer) cells. A 24-48 hour fast and you've basically taken out the garbage.

Hodgkin's lymphoma responds well to radiation (90 percent 5 year survival rate)

Other cancer's can be treated if detected early and removed surgically.


CAR T cell immunotherapy holds great promise for cancers.

It does seem like some progress is being made. Perhaps in 30 years cancer will be like HIV is today...not cured, but controllable.

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09-21-2019 12:32 PM
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(09-19-2019 09:41 PM)SeaFM Wrote:  
(09-19-2019 08:23 PM)hedonist Wrote:  This was always a strange one I remember too.... I know this one is reaching but who knows
https://idioteq.com/testaments-chuck-bil...ancer/amp/

Doesn’t seem like this guy ever had cancer.

I know ...lots of new age sketchiness with this sort of thing but when you think about how much unnatural lifestyles have affected our health maybe nature is the cure.

This is worth a watch just for the court hearings alone...gotta make you wonder why the FDA want him gone so bad. Same kind of smear campaigns too.
Burzynski





My friend was reading a book on cancer and apparently the Hunza tribe had the lowest cancer rates in the world. Ironically the author died of cancer ...
But he had some interesting thoughts on HIV and degeneracy

https://soilandhealth.org/wp-content/upl...22toc.html

http://www.myhealthblog.org/wp-content/u...rvival.pdf
09-22-2019 09:20 PM
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Thanks for bringing up Burzynski. The war on him has certainly been interesting. I naturally wonder why he just doesn't go to Mexico or somewhere else. I've met several of his patients.
09-27-2019 06:11 AM
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