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Traits to look for in a mother?
What are some traits that you think are important to a mother?

Been thinking about having kids within the next 10 years or so. I do well in game so want to be able to recognize what's good?

Some things that come to mind

1) attractiveness = sexy kids means they'll thrive more.
2) high iq = be able to acquire resources for themselves (kids)
3) is very into me / compliant = provides a stabler environment for my family

Some things that are ideal but not sure if I'm being too picky

1) low notch count and/or doesn't have interest in other men besides me and/or only engages in fertile sex with me.
2) Above 5'7 (height important for boy kids)
3) same ethnicity as me (preserve language)
4) comes from a good family and good relationship with them.
5) young as legally possible. (more fertile I like younger girls in general in terms of turn on).
09-21-2019 06:45 PM
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RE: traits to look for in a mother?
Roosh did a great article on this topic a few years ago:

https://www.rooshv.com/7-things-i-requir...f-my-child

This article heavily inspired me to settle down when I met my wife. She was a few years older than 25, but then again I was a few years older than 40 so still a good age difference. Also, her skin tone might be more than two tones darker than mine, but skin color was never much of a consideration for me.

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RE: traits to look for in a mother?
What does her mother look like? Is the mother thin and happy? Does the mother help the father around when they are both old stumbling around together? Or is she overweight divorced and alone. That should be a important factor. You already have most of the qualities there. Make sure she isn't on birth control which tends to fuck up girls on the head. Body count is also important. Less guys she's been with less crazy you have to compete with. Age is also important, nothing over 25. However these days I know plenty of 19 year Olds with baggage of 40 year old women. It's getting more and more difficult. Where exactly are you looking for a wife? Country? Continent?
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RE: traits to look for in a mother?
Large mammaries.
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RE: traits to look for in a mother?
I was going to add to your list but you really mailed this one on the head. That's pretty much every checkbox that needs to be hit for your children to have the best lives possible.

I'd focus particularly on high IQ and good looks. Combined with a quality upbringing, you're giving your kids the maximum chance of success in this world. And the way things are going, they'll need it.
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RE: traits to look for in a mother?
My thing is I haven't traveled at all and I want to get richer before I settle down. I'm 29 now. My game is great though and I've gotten with really high quality girls, I just haven't been in the situation where I'd want to hang up the boots. Children also is a bit of lower level of freedom (I'd obviously want to raise them).

I'm thinking to settle at 37 ideally so I have plenty of time and don't feel rushed to settle down. I've heard that's a good time. Just hope I can still get high quality women of younger ages by then.

My ancestry is Greek but I live in and was born in Canada. Was thinking to relocate there to find wifey because the Greek girls here are all spoiled and I haven't found the chemistry with any as much as any other ethnicity here. Girls are girls. If I go to Greece though I have a population of 11 million so I'm sure I'll meet more then a couple there that would wow me.
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RE: traits to look for in a mother?
I would look for anycoutnry in Eastern Europe or even east of Hungary. They are still somewhat conservative.
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RE: traits to look for in a mother?
(09-21-2019 06:45 PM)jackgig Wrote:  What are some traits that you think are important to a mother?

Been thinking about having kids within the next 10 years or so. I do well in game so want to be able to recognize what's good?

Some things that come to mind

1) attractiveness = sexy kids means they'll thrive more.
2) high iq = be able to acquire resources for themselves (kids)
3) is very into me / compliant = provides a stabler environment for my family

Some things that are ideal but not sure if I'm being too picky

1) low notch count and/or doesn't have interest in other men besides me and/or only engages in fertile sex with me.
2) Above 5'7 (height important for boy kids)
3) same ethnicity as me (preserve language)
4) comes from a good family and good relationship with them.
5) young as legally possible. (more fertile I like younger girls in general in terms of turn on).

Depends on your height. More important for short men than for tall men I would suppose. It's a bit of a Catch-22 for short men that they probably better mate with taller girls, but I think a girl of 5'4 isn't too bad for a short man. Also, look at her brothers and father. Some short girls have tall brothers for example.
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RE: traits to look for in a mother?
Your checklist is missing some key traits.

The prime criteria is that she actually loves children and wants to have them.
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RE: traits to look for in a mother?
I know the title says "mother", but I'll assume that also means "wife" (for life).

1) Non-argumentative
2) Doesn't care much about my career
3) Lower middle class upbringing and low ambition for a fancy lifestyle.

You older guys looking for young 7s+ are in for a long, long life of hard work to sustain her lifestyle requirements. That or divorce.
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RE: traits to look for in a mother?
Is immune against mass media brainwashing and all media, entertainment and social-programming propaganda. That is the most important aspect now.

Wants to have a family and children ASAP with you and wants to be the good wife and mother.

Focus here on WANT. The rest like attractiveness etc. are a given and logical.
09-23-2019 04:30 AM
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RE: traits to look for in a mother?
(09-22-2019 03:28 AM)jackgig Wrote:  My thing is I haven't traveled at all and I want to get richer before I settle down. I'm 29 now. My game is great though and I've gotten with really high quality girls, I just haven't been in the situation where I'd want to hang up the boots. Children also is a bit of lower level of freedom (I'd obviously want to raise them).

I'm thinking to settle at 37 ideally so I have plenty of time and don't feel rushed to settle down. I've heard that's a good time. Just hope I can still get high quality women of younger ages by then.

My ancestry is Greek but I live in and was born in Canada. Was thinking to relocate there to find wifey because the Greek girls here are all spoiled and I haven't found the chemistry with any as much as any other ethnicity here. Girls are girls. If I go to Greece though I have a population of 11 million so I'm sure I'll meet more then a couple there that would wow me.

Not a bad idea, but keep in mind that in Greece and other Mediterranean countries, women pretty much exclusively date and marry within their social circle. That's a serious nut you'd have to crack. But the women are much higher quality than in the West, I think your mind's in bthe right place on that one.
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RE: traits to look for in a mother?
(09-23-2019 07:55 AM)JiggyLordJr Wrote:  
(09-22-2019 03:28 AM)jackgig Wrote:  My thing is I haven't traveled at all and I want to get richer before I settle down. I'm 29 now. My game is great though and I've gotten with really high quality girls, I just haven't been in the situation where I'd want to hang up the boots. Children also is a bit of lower level of freedom (I'd obviously want to raise them).

I'm thinking to settle at 37 ideally so I have plenty of time and don't feel rushed to settle down. I've heard that's a good time. Just hope I can still get high quality women of younger ages by then.

My ancestry is Greek but I live in and was born in Canada. Was thinking to relocate there to find wifey because the Greek girls here are all spoiled and I haven't found the chemistry with any as much as any other ethnicity here. Girls are girls. If I go to Greece though I have a population of 11 million so I'm sure I'll meet more then a couple there that would wow me.

Not a bad idea, but keep in mind that in Greece and other Mediterranean countries, women pretty much exclusively date and marry within their social circle. That's a serious nut you'd have to crack. But the women are much higher quality than in the West, I think your mind's in bthe right place on that one.

Not really in my experience. I've gamed there before. Was 3x easier then Toronto which is where I'm at right now and I do well in Toronto. Value is value. Since language and culture is different there generally women are women and men are men they don't keep trying to challenge biology like they do in Toronto and ignore reality.
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RE: traits to look for in a mother?
your top 3 are good. I would add - wants to have children.
- has child rearing experience
- parents in happy relationship
- emotionally stable
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RE: traits to look for in a mother?
I'm pretty sure at the top of your list should be the so-called "Happy Gene" in women:

Quote:The "warrior gene" in men might be the "happiness gene" for women.

A new study found that a low-expression form of the gene monoamine oxidase A (MAOA) seems to give women good feelings, but it doesn't have the same effect in guys. In fact, it's the same gene type that has been linked to aggression in men.

"This is the first happiness gene for women," lead author Henian Chen, of the University of South Florida, said in a statement.

MAOA controls the activity of an enzyme that breaks down serotonin, dopamine and other feel-good brain chemicals. The low-expression version MAOA leads to higher levels of monoamine, which, in turn, allows larger amounts of these neurotransmitters to stay in the brain and boost mood.

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The researchers found that women with even just one copy of the low-activity type of MAOA were much happier than women with no copies.

Women with drab outlooks are downright unpleasant long term. Best find yourself a happy woman.
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RE: Traits to look for in a mother?
She must be willing to put the needs of the child above even her own needs, i.e. if she doesn't exercise, though she may be good looking, the child will suffer in development from lack of sufficient oxygen for maximum growth. I look at it like a card game, and life is playing against the house, you have to take certain bets and understand the odds in favor of whom. The deck is stacked against all of us from the moment of conception, so a good mother would understand she needs to be the perfect vessel to raise a life inside of herself. Met a few like this, a couple acquaintances and buddies wives, so they do go fast. You have to be prepared to go all in or not at all with a woman like this, because they won't dilly-dally if you want to still play around town. I call them the American Rarity.
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RE: Traits to look for in a mother?
(09-21-2019 06:45 PM)jackgig Wrote:  What are some traits that you think are important to a mother?

Been thinking about having kids within the next 10 years or so. I do well in game so want to be able to recognize what's good?

Some things that come to mind

1) attractiveness = sexy kids means they'll thrive more.
2) high iq = be able to acquire resources for themselves (kids)
3) is very into me / compliant = provides a stabler environment for my family

Some things that are ideal but not sure if I'm being too picky

1) low notch count and/or doesn't have interest in other men besides me and/or only engages in fertile sex with me.
2) Above 5'7 (height important for boy kids)
3) same ethnicity as me (preserve language)
4) comes from a good family and good relationship with them.
5) young as legally possible. (more fertile I like younger girls in general in terms of turn on).
Very interesting points and I agree in general.

Also to be mentioned is:

- Ability to cook and look after domestic matters.
- The desire to have children.
- Being warm and feminine instead of being uncouth and showing a smart alecky attitude.
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RE: Traits to look for in a mother?
I know a single mother in Estonia. She was not all that hot. But grew up in some tiny village, out in the country. Used to be an army officer in the volunteer army. She got knocked up by her boyfriend/fuck buddy. She got kicked out of their army and now is a stay at home mom. She started taking carpentry classes. Works out all the time. Does those orienteering events. Has built garden houses and sheds for other people.

The father has a job where he travels all over the word. He is a motorsports mechanic. He does not even live with her or where she lives.

So, there is always an upside and downside to any situation. You can find women that will have a kid with you. Not be all over social media. Might not be the hottest girl around. Its all in what you are willing to accept.

I do not put these women on a pedestal. I was angry for a long time. Blamed women...even if it was or was not true. But I have to look inward. Before I start tossing anchors of judgement on people outwardly.

Imagine drawing a circle around yourself. Everything inside of that circle is completely controled by you. Everything on the outside is trying to get in.

You might not know it. But you have control over what gets inside your circle.
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RE: Traits to look for in a mother?
Everything has been covered in Roosh's post linked above and all of your comments, but I'd say the #1 trait is not being a career gurl. If she's more in love with her career than with you, her baby will also take a backseat to her career.

Sometimes career girls change and get baby rabies when they hit their late 20s or have their first kid, but it's a gamble man. A young girl starting off understanding the proper place of her career vs. kids is a better bet.
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RE: Traits to look for in a mother?
Relevant cross post this from another thread:

(01-01-2019 07:29 PM)Mage Wrote:  The best idea I have found on this long and painful discussion is that it is impossible to hide from evil influences. So a reliable man or woman is not someone who is sheltered from these influences, but rather someone who knows how to deal with them.

Who is a man or a woman that knows how to deal with bad influences and who knows how to resist temptation? One with spiritual dimension in their lives. Too many guys without proper experience in spirituality themselves confuse spirituality with blending in some cultural group - going to church or temple means nothing if it is just going together with family and culture. Such women can change if put in other environment.

If you want to gauge how reliable a person is and how faithful that person is to his ideals you must see if that person is doing any introspection towards these goals and how is that individual acting alone without environmental influences.

A relationship minded woman that chooses to have a family and be faithful to her husband despite temptations will fulfill the fallowing criteria:

- She will pray in her room alone and introspect her soul.
- She will read books on how to achieve that goal of family, just like you read books on game. After she has achieved that she will continue to read books on how to make marriage stronger and how to raise children better.
- She will go to church or temple at scheduled days even despite inconvenience, like busy schedule, bad weather, minor illness, long distance or whatever and she will do the required rites like confession with discipline, regularity and preparation.
- She will have past success in not wasting her energy and time in something that doesn't bring her closer to her goals so she will have low notch counts, she will waste little time with men who show no interest in relationships.
- She will have basic housewife skills like cleaning and cooking mastered already. She will not have skills that are clearly useless in LTR like pole dancing or twerking.
- She has the "happy gene" and can maintain her happiness and sanity and her direction towards her life goals alone for some time and is not dependent on constant outside input.

And yes, nothing is certain and there is never any warranty in life about what another person does. But the point is you cannot hope to find a "good NPC" or a sheltered innocent woman and lock her mind up. There are programs that can covert any NPC to any color and only player characters can be somewhat trusted. You must make sure that you woman is a player character and that her participation in your LTR is a conscious choice, not just going with the flow. Any conscious choice must be accompanied with temperance of the will and the resolve, which is achieved trough spiritual discipline, which can only be done by a person that upkeeps a spiritual dimension in their life. And you cannot be the one who teaches her this, she must do it on her own. But you must b e doing the same and strengthening her resolve by having your own.

Oh and if you hope to find a faithful girl among atheists, or think you can make a lasting family without help of God and praying to God yourself, then you must be fucked in the head, sorry.
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RE: Traits to look for in a mother?
I might not type coherently a lot...sometimes. But it all comes down to this: whether you are trying to be in a relationship, or out having sex for fun. What kind of a person are you? That is what you have to search for and find out.

What do you say about yourself? But here is also another aspect of this: when you figure out what kind of person you are. Especially...if you are not happy with where you are at or what you are doing. You can change it.

I hear Roosh say in his videos still that he is a devient....or whatever he actually thinks? I kniw I do these things too. Especially since I am overweight, work crazy hours and eat like crap.

But how do you expect any one to like you? If you do not like yourself? What do you say about yourself? What kind of mental image do you portray to the world?

If you get this thinking right, it will do wonders. Things will change.

I know there are mean and ugly people in the world. I know there is all kinds of nasty things. But when hasn't there been? Every generation thinks this is the worst. Do not fall for that. Do not worry about what it is like on the outside. Worry about what you are like...on the inside.

Change yourself and keep on going.

This forum now is supposedly Chriatian...or focused on other things now. If this is true, do people really know who is in control? God is. The Devil has control over a lot of things down here. But for whatever reason...I do not know why...I just trust. God is in control. If you do not understand why. That is ok. Just trust. Do what you can do. Let God do what He can do.

You all ready know what will come in the last days. So, enjoy the journey. The destination is already coming.

If people want relationships. They can have it. It might take awhile. But start with yourself. You reap what you sew.

Plant a good seed. Plant in good soil. Nuture your seed and it will grow into something good.
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RE: Traits to look for in a mother?
There is no difference between traits in looking for mother and traits in looking for wife.

But psychologically men would do well when looking for wife to to always remember that they are also looking for future mother of their children. This will make the selection process much more demanding and effective.

While for some men it seems common sense, I suspect that many men are foolish and only look for superficial qualities in women, imagining nothing much but dates and bedroom time, not seeing the almost certain near future of children. The more a bastard the man is - the more he sees a woman this way. A bastard is a man or woman untrained into thinking in family terms - likely someone who grew up with an absent or divorced parent. Men who are raised in stable families themselves will be less likely to have this problem, although no one is fully protected from any dysfunctional influence in modern society.
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RE: Traits to look for in a mother?
More than anything else I think it’s the willingness to nurture/care and a feminine pleasantness. Both severely lacking in the USA.
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RE: Traits to look for in a mother?
1. Not fat
2. Not ugly
3. Has money/class
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RE: Traits to look for in a mother?
(09-28-2019 04:00 PM)Swordfish1010 Wrote:  1. Not fat
2. Not ugly
3. Has money/class

This is far too little criteria.
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