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Augustus_Principe Offline
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RE: Advice please - not sure whether to consider this woman for LTR/kids
If you're thinking about it(her notch count) this much, it's best to just move on. Be glad for time you spent with her and start working on yourself. As others have noted, start living a more conservative life, live by virtues that you want to see in a woman (chastity) and you will attract those types of women.
09-24-2019 08:49 AM
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(09-23-2019 03:29 PM)velkrum Wrote:  I'm not personally calling you a low value man because I don't know you on a personal level but, any guy that refuses to accept that a woman is a human being that enjoys sex and has had sex with other men before him is a LOW VALUE MAN.
Correct, you also can't expect to find a 24 year old virgin these days.

(09-23-2019 03:29 PM)velkrum Wrote:  
  • Stop thinking that the number of people ANYONE (man or woman) sleeps with De-values or De-humanizes them in any sort of way.
It does! Or you want to tell us that a girl with a low notch count has the same relationship value as "everyones darling"?

@ OP, she was on birth control when you met her?
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09-24-2019 09:54 AM
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RE: Advice please - not sure whether to consider this woman for LTR/kids
(09-24-2019 09:54 AM)Davinator Wrote:  
(09-23-2019 03:29 PM)velkrum Wrote:  I'm not personally calling you a low value man because I don't know you on a personal level but, any guy that refuses to accept that a woman is a human being that enjoys sex and has had sex with other men before him is a LOW VALUE MAN.
Correct, you also can't expect to find a 24 year old virgin these days.

(09-23-2019 03:29 PM)velkrum Wrote:  
  • Stop thinking that the number of people ANYONE (man or woman) sleeps with De-values or De-humanizes them in any sort of way.
It does! Or you want to tell us that a girl with a low notch count has the same relationship value as "everyones darling"?

@ OP, she was on birth control when you met her?

No, condom only.
09-24-2019 10:25 AM
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RE: Advice please - not sure whether to consider this woman for LTR/kids
OP, did you ask her about dating apps/sites? What did she say?
09-24-2019 06:57 PM
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RE: Advice please - not sure whether to consider this woman for LTR/kids
(09-24-2019 09:54 AM)Davinator Wrote:  a girl with a low notch count has the same relationship value as "everyones darling"?

What really matters:
  • Do you like her ?
  • Does she like you ?
  • Are you physically attracted to her ?
  • Is she attracted to you ?
  • Is she mentally mature (now) ?
  • Is she responsible (now) ?
  • Has she proven herself to be faithful to you ?
  • Does she bring happiness to your life ?
  • Does she make you want to be a better man (self improvement) ?
  • Does life seem more enjoyable with her in the picture ?
  • Do you enjoy talking with her ?
  • Do you have similar lifestyles /hobbies ?
  • Is she submissive to you ?
  • Does she let you lead and teach her new things ?
  • Do you learn helpful things from her ?
  • Do you both enjoy being intimate with each other ?

If you answered YES to ALL of these questions but

"Other guy's she hooked up with that aren't ME"

is STILL the most important reason for disqualify her, perhaps you should ask yourself..

Am I looking for a woman to be happy with

or

Am I looking for reasons to complain about "Where have all the good women gone ?".

Inferior Game + Inferior Genetics = Incel
Superior Game + Inferior Genetics = Incel

Inferior Game + Average Genetics = Friend zone
Superior Game + Average Genetics = Beta Bucks
Inferior Game + Superior Genetics = Alpha
Superior Game + Superior Genetics = Game of Life: now on EASY mode
09-24-2019 11:35 PM
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(09-24-2019 06:57 PM)LatinaLova Wrote:  OP, did you ask her about dating apps/sites? What did she say?

Never had any until she downloaded Tinder after her last bf, was on it for a month, but found some of the guys creepy and would have found it awkward to meet up with any of the decent guys she spoke to. Knowing her, and also that Swedish people find it weird if you ask them out on the street and tend to only meet people socially at parties/clubs it makes sense.
09-25-2019 06:06 AM
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RE: Advice please - not sure whether to consider this woman for LTR/kids
(09-24-2019 11:35 PM)velkrum Wrote:  
(09-24-2019 09:54 AM)Davinator Wrote:  a girl with a low notch count has the same relationship value as "everyones darling"?

What really matters:
  • Do you like her ?
  • Does she like you ?
  • Are you physically attracted to her ?
  • Is she attracted to you ?
  • Is she mentally mature (now) ?
  • Is she responsible (now) ?
  • Has she proven herself to be faithful to you ?
  • Does she bring happiness to your life ?
  • Does she make you want to be a better man (self improvement) ?
  • Does life seem more enjoyable with her in the picture ?
  • Do you enjoy talking with her ?
  • Do you have similar lifestyles /hobbies ?
  • Is she submissive to you ?
  • Does she let you lead and teach her new things ?
  • Do you learn helpful things from her ?
  • Do you both enjoy being intimate with each other ?

If you answered YES to ALL of these questions but

"Other guy's she hooked up with that aren't ME"

is STILL the most important reason for disqualify her, perhaps you should ask yourself..

Am I looking for a woman to be happy with

or

Am I looking for reasons to complain about "Where have all the good women gone ?".

Thank you for this perspective. The answer is yes to all of them with the exception of mentally mature/responsible (which is still developing and she still needs leadership here) and submissiveness (which she has for me to some level, but that I want to develop in her further). I suppose that you are right as when I look at it on paper these are indeed really the only things that matter. I will bear this in mind as things progress.
09-25-2019 06:16 AM
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RE: Advice please - not sure whether to consider this woman for LTR/kids
I won't be very helpful but here are my two cents

You say she has a "phenomenal ass". I think you cannot speak this way of a woman who will become the mother of your kids.
09-29-2019 05:50 AM
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RE: Advice please - not sure whether to consider this woman for LTR/kids
do you have sex with condoms with your regular girlfriend OP ?
Sorry to be the party spoiler , but I don't think this is normal
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(09-25-2019 06:16 AM)rcallini Wrote:  Thank you for this perspective. The answer is yes to all of them with the exception of mentally mature/responsible (which is still developing and she still needs leadership here) and submissiveness (which she has for me to some level, but that I want to develop in her further).

A woman is never "mentally mature". You fell for feminist bullshit.

Biologically she is going stay somewhere between a 12-16 year old boy. This part-immaturity is needed for her ability to properly connect to her own children, when they are very young and unable to express their needs.

Also you don't "develop submissiveness" in a woman. They are submissive to men who can lead congruently and impeccable. The latter is what you need to develop in you as a man. Every woman tests you for that.
09-29-2019 11:12 AM
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(09-29-2019 05:50 AM)Polniy_Sostav Wrote:  I won't be very helpful but here are my two cents

You say she has a "phenomenal ass". I think you cannot speak this way of a woman who will become the mother of your kids.

From another forum thread:

"Before I was red pilled I was a Christian. I looked for dating advice in Christians sites and they told me to never attempt to sleep with women before marriage, to be nice and give them flowers. It worked horribly and even good marriage material Christian girls were cruel to me. Once I learned game and became red pilled bad boy the Christian girls wanted to have my babies. Turns out even with the best Christian girls you must at least pretend to want to sleep with them before marriage for them to view as sexual being and not an asexual friend."

Discuss.
10-01-2019 08:53 AM
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RE: Advice please - not sure whether to consider this woman for LTR/kids
Hello guys, new member here but I've been reading the forum for years. Also read a couple of Roosh's books. Decided to contribute to the community.

Bienvenuto:
Humans nowadays act on a double contradictory platform.
On one hand we have our primal instincts and on the other hand we have social rules. More often than not primal instincts prevail.

Christian girls (but not only them if you think about it) can't be an exception. They say they want a nice guy with the 'right attitude' but in practice they will fall for a guy with a nice body and/or an alpha attitude. I can't tell you how many times I've seen this. I'm sure you did as well. I've also noticed that this kind of girls have the tendency to go all freaky when they let go because of all the suppression they received over the years.
It's hard to beat nature. especially for a woman.
10-01-2019 09:04 AM
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Hard to have an alpha attitude if I can't even let myself think that my girl has a phenomenal ass.
10-01-2019 09:09 AM
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(10-01-2019 09:04 AM)Khal Drogo Wrote:  Christian girls (but not only them if you think about it) can't be an exception. They say they want a nice guy with the 'right attitude' but in practice they will fall for a guy with a nice body and/or an alpha attitude.

Or they fall for a nice guy with a nice body and an alpha attitude. Wink
10-01-2019 09:13 AM
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(10-01-2019 08:53 AM)Bienvenuto Wrote:  
(09-29-2019 05:50 AM)Polniy_Sostav Wrote:  I won't be very helpful but here are my two cents

You say she has a "phenomenal ass". I think you cannot speak this way of a woman who will become the mother of your kids.

From another forum thread:

"Before I was red pilled I was a Christian. I looked for dating advice in Christians sites and they told me to never attempt to sleep with women before marriage, to be nice and give them flowers. It worked horribly and even good marriage material Christian girls were cruel to me. Once I learned game and became red pilled bad boy the Christian girls wanted to have my babies. Turns out even with the best Christian girls you must at least pretend to want to sleep with them before marriage for them to view as sexual being and not an asexual friend."

Discuss.

I have zero experience dating Christian women, but due to women being women, what Mage wrote sounds more likely to be true than not, sadly.
It's not extremely rare to see Christian woman - Atheist man couples.
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“You say she has a "phenomenal ass". I think you cannot speak this way of a woman who will become the mother of your kids.”

Please tell me this is a joke. A great lower body is an indication of fertility (child-bearing hips). And as a man you aren’t allowed to appreciate your wife’s body? Tell you what, you can have the flat assed women, I’ll take one with some nice healthy buns
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