I'm Touring The United States! Starting in June, I'm conducting private events in 23 American cities. Click here for full details.

Post Reply 
Walden-Simple, Natural living
Author Message
Blake2 Offline
Robin
*

Posts: 180
Joined: Oct 2015
Reputation: 10
Post: #1
Walden-Simple, Natural living
I went to the woods because I wished to live deliberately, to front only the essential facts of life, and see if I could not learn what it had to teach, and not, when I came to die, discover that I had not lived. I did not wish to live what was not life, living is so dear; nor did I wish to practice resignation, unless it was quite necessary. I wanted to live deep and suck out all the marrow of life, to live so sturdily and Spartan-like as to put to rout all that was not life, to cut a broad swath and shave close, to drive life into a corner, and reduce it to its lowest terms, and, if it proved to be mean, why then to get the whole and genuine meanness of it, and publish its meanness to the world; or if it were sublime, to know it by experience, and be able to give a true account of it in my next excursion.

— Henry David Thoreau

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------

The world is obsessed with progress, but can outward improvement bring inner peace and contentment?

I've started reading this book and am simplifying life, slowing down, and spending more time in nature. I think its a good path.

A man should never be ashamed to own that he is wrong, which is but saying in other words that he is wiser today than he was yesterday.
-Alexander Pope
09-25-2019 01:44 PM
Find all posts by this user Like Post Quote this message in a reply
[-] The following 4 users Like Blake2's post:
Syberpunk, MichaelWitcoff, Johnnyvee, MusicForThePiano
Blake2 Offline
Robin
*

Posts: 180
Joined: Oct 2015
Reputation: 10
Post: #2
RE: Walden-Simple, Natural living
Homesteading is a lifestyle of self-sufficiency. It is characterized by subsistence agriculture, home preservation of food, and may also involve the small scale production of textiles, clothing, and craftwork for household use or sale.


The amount of money needed to buy land in a rural area is really quite small. A house can be bought or built cheaply in such places. I have seen rural Alabama houses going for sale under 20,000 dollars.



In fact, some places give land for free.
Homesteading today is still possible, and you can earn your land free from the government.

http://www.joyfulhomesteading.com/build-...-home.html

A man should never be ashamed to own that he is wrong, which is but saying in other words that he is wiser today than he was yesterday.
-Alexander Pope
09-25-2019 11:58 PM
Find all posts by this user Like Post Quote this message in a reply
Freebird Flying Offline
Woodpecker
**

Posts: 272
Joined: Mar 2016
Reputation: 4
Post: #3
RE: Walden-Simple, Natural living
Update after you try it? Have you done this for a week or a month yet?

09-26-2019 11:03 AM
Find all posts by this user Like Post Quote this message in a reply
Blake2 Offline
Robin
*

Posts: 180
Joined: Oct 2015
Reputation: 10
Post: #4
RE: Walden-Simple, Natural living
(09-26-2019 11:03 AM)Freebird Flying Wrote:  Update after you try it? Have you done this for a week or a month yet?

Just to clarify, I'm not quitting my job but instead of spending time consuming, its better to invest in a homestead.
Eventually, the goal is to transition to it full time.

You don't need a lot of savings if you barely spend anything and grow a lot of your own food.


Agreed, will update with results.

A man should never be ashamed to own that he is wrong, which is but saying in other words that he is wiser today than he was yesterday.
-Alexander Pope
(This post was last modified: 09-26-2019 12:14 PM by Blake2.)
09-26-2019 12:12 PM
Find all posts by this user Like Post Quote this message in a reply
H1N1 Offline
Ostrich
****
Gold Member

Posts: 2,160
Joined: Jun 2014
Reputation: 118
Post: #5
RE: Walden-Simple, Natural living
This post is well worth reading on this topic:

(11-07-2013 01:36 PM)The Lizard of Oz Wrote:  thedude3737 brought up Thoreau and "Walden" in a previous post, and indeed this is something worth talking about in this context.

The literature of nature worship that is exemplified in the writing of Thoreau and other writers like Emerson and Rousseau is, in my opinion, one of the most overrated and pernicious strains of the literary.

It is a literature of bookish men who grossly sentimentalize their experiences of "nature" because for all their brilliance, they can't get a good handle on the world around them. The real world of men and, importantly, women.

They find "nature" pleasant because it offers them a blank canvas on which to project their petulant and thwarted sensibility -- thwarted particularly by unfulfilled eros and the inability to control the female as they think they deserve; and they surround this experience with empty rhetoric born entirely of their book learning, the one thing that they really have. "Nature" is never worshiped by those who inhabit it natively; it is worshiped by the brilliant, solipsistic and wounded outsiders.

To be clear, I'm not saying that these men were necessarily "losers" in a conventional or even erotic sense. But I am saying that they were sensitive, bookish and intelligent men who could not truly get a handle on the world, which is what they thought was owed them by dint of their cleverness and assumed superiority. The literary are immodest, self-absorbed and impatient; when they saw that they had no control over the world and particularly over the thing that meant most to them -- women -- they skulked away to "nature" in which they chose to see their genius reflected back at them.

All very understandable, but the literature that it produces is grievously overrated. Yet many have been suckered by its rhetoric.

It is worth hearing what a truly great writer and thinker, Dr. Samuel Johnson, had to say about these subjects:

http://www.samueljohnson.com/cities.html#263

Quote:"No wise man will go to live in the country, unless he has something to do which can be better done in the country. For instance, if he is to shut himself up for a year to study science, it is better to look out to the fields, than to an opposite wall. Then, if a man walks out in the country, there is nobody to keep him from walking in again: but if a man walks out in London, he is not sure when he will walk in again. A great city is, to be sure, the school for studying life."

http://www.samueljohnson.com/london.html#30

Quote:"Sir, if you wish to have a just notion of the magnitude of this city, you must not be satisfied with seeing its great streets and squares, but must survey the innumerable little lanes and courts. It is not in the showy evolutions of buildings, but in the multiplicity of human habitations which are crowded together, that the wonderful immensity of London consists."

http://www.samueljohnson.com/london.html#77

Quote:Johnson: "The happiness of London is not to be conceived but by those who have been in it. I will venture to say, there is more learning and science within the circumference of ten miles from where we now sit, than in all the rest of the world." Boswell: "The only disadvantage is the great distance at which people live from one another." Johnson: "Yes, Sir, but that is occasioned by the largeness of it, which is the cause of all the other advantages." Boswell: "Sometimes I have been in the humour of wishing to retire to a desart." Johnson: "Sir, you have desart enough in Scotland."

http://www.samueljohnson.com/london.html#238

Quote:"Why, Sir, you find no man, at all intellectual, who is willing to leave London. No, Sir, when a man is tired of London, he is tired of life; for there is in London all that life can afford."

Lastly, one must note that conditions have changed to an almost magical extent; there is vastly more learning, interest and experience immediately accessible to anyone with an internet connection than there was in all of Johnson's London. We all live in "London" now. But this does not change the truth of his thinking. When a man is tired of "London" -- meaning, of the true and complex life of the world of thinking and action that surrounds us -- he is tired of life.
09-26-2019 12:56 PM
Find all posts by this user Like Post Quote this message in a reply
[-] The following 2 users Like H1N1's post:
hervens, BasketBounce
Johnnyvee Offline
Pelican
****

Posts: 1,030
Joined: Jun 2017
Reputation: 12
Post: #6
RE: Walden-Simple, Natural living
I think that the idea of inner peace and contentment is a mere illusion. Life is about survival, as in biological fitness, the ability to survive and reproduce. You will never arrive at a place where you are always content. If everything is "perfect" for any length of time...guess what, you`ll be bored. That`s why so many have it all, super rich kids, end up as a mess. It`s really in the struggle, and maybe the illusion of getting somewhere that the illusion of happiness lies. You always have to try to attain something. Food, sex, or just basic survival.

Spending time in nature is essential, since our brains have evolved to expect those surroundings. I find it a necessity in order to calm my brain, and do all my best thinking in nature. But you will never arrive at some sort of deeper meaning nirvana, since that is ultimately an illusion. Think of it more as a form of therapy.

We will stomp to the top with the wind in our teeth.

George L. Mallory
09-26-2019 01:37 PM
Find all posts by this user Like Post Quote this message in a reply
[-] The following 1 user Likes Johnnyvee's post:
Freebird Flying
Donfitz007 Offline
Kingfisher
***

Posts: 794
Joined: Mar 2018
Reputation: 5
Post: #7
RE: Walden-Simple, Natural living
I’m from Birmingham Alabama mate, you don’t want to live in rural Alabama trust me.

You want inner peace then you need to practice survival. Try not to get to the point where you’re paranoid about everything but try to be capable of getting out of any situation. Learning is a beautiful thing and our ancestors put a great emphasis on learning how to survive and thrive. Just because life is easy doesn’t mean we can’t put the emphasis back on learning to survive
(This post was last modified: 09-26-2019 02:16 PM by Donfitz007.)
09-26-2019 02:14 PM
Find all posts by this user Like Post Quote this message in a reply
[-] The following 3 users Like Donfitz007's post:
Dr. Howard, MusicForThePiano, Syberpunk
MusicForThePiano Offline
Woodpecker
**

Posts: 278
Joined: May 2019
Reputation: 10
Post: #8
RE: Walden-Simple, Natural living
I would homestead somewhere with seasonal change, the third world can't fare well in the cold, especially in survival situations. So much less chance of some governmentally-strategically-placed somalians sneaking into your property to rape and pillage.

You can't cheat nature.
09-26-2019 06:08 PM
Find all posts by this user Like Post Quote this message in a reply
Post Reply 


Possibly Related Threads...
Thread: Author Replies: Views: Last Post
  Natural ways to boost Testosterone? jbkunt2 112 47,002 Today 12:30 PM
Last Post: Augustus_Principe
  What's a true natural body builder look like? kbell 34 41,044 08-18-2019 07:33 PM
Last Post: Marshall D. Teach
Smile [Tools]  Simple goal setting habits - how to PixelFree 7 1,129 06-17-2019 05:25 PM
Last Post: ThriceLazarus

Forum Jump:


User(s) browsing this thread: 2 Guest(s)

Contact Us | RooshV.com | Return to Top | Return to Content | Mobile Version | RSS Syndication