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RE: Online dating in 2007 vs now: what the h-ll happened?
The social media/dating apps stuff feels like it's taken the culture to the edge of a bottomless chasm, and kicked it right off. No coming back? Maybe, but I don't see how, though also I haven't given it much thought yet.

Back in 1992 - I was about 24 years old, haha - I was quite excited to be exploring the wild west of the internet, the brand-new WWW, with urls and pages and pictures and everything. It was so liberating, compared to the dinosaur BBs from the 80s. And wow, what's this? AOL, got chat rooms and whatnot, got it's own content, etc. I actually private chatted with a chick from Tallahassee, drove over and spent the weekend with her. So that was cool. Those were the days, man. What gework said, as well - Tinder, the dumb FB dating thing, whatever - practically nothing but 5s and below (waaay below, sometimes). Whenever I do see a decent looking girl, RVF whispers into my ear ...
10-07-2019 01:27 PM
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RE: Online dating in 2007 vs now: what the h-ll happened?
(10-07-2019 11:43 AM)for.petes.sake Wrote:  
(10-07-2019 09:21 AM)TheFinalEpic Wrote:  Try Hinge. The app features prompts and allows you to message direct off the bat, without having to have mutual interest on her part, this is where you can show your personality, charisma, and ability to get as close to a cold opener as possible for an online app. Tinder is the nightclub of dating apps, and I can't say that the ROI of nightclubs is anything I'm interested in.

I am of the camp that there's not much competition on most of these apps due to the fact that most men, by definition, aren't in the top 20%. So, get yourself there, and see what happens. Most guys are thirsty and have beta tendencies.

So, be the opposite, care a lot less (cause this is a numbers game), and use this as a supplement, not as your only source of leads. Even though this forum is about relationships now, in order to garner that relationship, you are going to have to cast a wide net and qualify a lot of women.

But Hinge is very location dependent. I have been having great success with it though in New York.

Everything is location dependent my man, you're not going to have a great time in some small town with this sort of thing.

Whether or not you should move to one after meeting and courting the girl that you would like to be the mother of your children is another conversation.

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(10-05-2019 07:47 PM)scorpion Wrote:  The illusion of infinite choice combined with instant access and total ease of use. And just like when you're scrolling through Netflix and end up watching trailers for an hour because you can't settle on any one movie, these women squander their prime years in a procession of short flings rather than settling down with a husband.

Google "Paradox of choice". Women have too much of it and men have too little (hence chasing anything with two X chromosomes).
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(10-07-2019 10:48 AM)PapayaTapper Wrote:  Western culture has essentially transformed relationships for women from a basic survival necessity into an optional lifestyle accessory.

I would argue that western culture has eliminated higher order needs in women. The closest we have to higher order needs is the bastardation of virtue signals from SJWs, or maybe the schizophrenia stage of washed up THOTs like what happened to Tila Tequila. But the average THOT is unconcerned with "transcendance". They are in a state of arrested development.
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RE: Online dating in 2007 vs now: what the h-ll happened?
^Yes, this was PT's graphic on the previous page.

The single biggest reason why higher order needs have been met, and persisted (for western women) is that that the ratio of men to women has been far too close to 50-50 for too long, and thus, no selection pressure has been put on women.

With greater numbers of males comes greater thirst and less masculine traits, especially regarding reproductive strategy (= more sellouts).

If you have a secular society without tradition and/or religion to stifle this, you're pretty much fucked until the affluence vanishes and the cycle repeats.

Get your passport ready!
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I went on a bumble date today. It’s amazing the standards these women have. It’s as if there is no margin for error...even the slightest imperfection is a reason to lose interest.

Can only be explained by the sheer number of options these women have.

Dating in America really can be discouraging.

Go online and that discouragement can quickly turn into a grim hopelessness.

Everything online has been a waste of time for me. The main thing I have gotten from it is a loss of confidence.

Social media + Online Dating + Thirsty men= Unlimited options for Women

Unlimited options= Delusional standards

If you fall anywhere outside of the right side of the bell curve...good luck.
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(10-12-2019 11:10 PM)Mikeyd03 Wrote:  I went on a bumble date today. It’s amazing the standards these women have. It’s as if there is no margin for error...even the slightest imperfection is a reason to lose interest.

Can only be explained by the sheer number of options these women have.

Dating in America really can be discouraging.

Go online and that discouragement can quickly turn into a grim hopelessness.

Everything online has been a waste of time for me. The main thing I have gotten from it is a loss of confidence.

Social media + Online Dating + Thirsty men= Unlimited options for Women

Unlimited options= Delusional standards

If you fall anywhere outside of the right side of the bell curve...good luck.

What happened on the date? Low-key shit on you for not meeting her lofty standards? Constantly talked about all the fun and exciting adventures she goes on? Endless vacas, private boats, and infinity pools?


Or was she clueless about her own behavior and the difference in lifestyle was too much?


Guy: "What did you do last weekend?"

Date: "Had drinks with friends on a yacht in the afternoon! Later went to a penthouse and predrank then partied at a club where my friend who's a DJ. So-and-so celebrity was performing that night. You?"

Guy: "Umm..not much."
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RE: Online dating in 2007 vs now: what the h-ll happened?
Basically it was a one sided flow of effort.

For example:

Me: “How have your other bumble meetups gone?”

Her: “oh nothing crazy...”

Me: “What do you like to do for fun?”

Her: “Eat and sleep.” (Ok.)

She had a masculine way about her. Speaking in an unwarranted tone of confidence, reminded me of the gatekeepers I’d talk to at my sales jobs.

Obviously that behavior can be interpreted as disinterest. Bottom line though is she wasn’t stunning at all...just average.

I sense this girl had been pumped and dumped a few too many times.

I cut it short.

When you have unlimited options of course you’re going to be picky.

Think of restaurants.

You won’t eat just anywhere, only the place that tickles your taste buds just right...because there are so many.

Guys are restaurants to girls...many to choose from...and only picking the ones that make her tingle just right.
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RE: Online dating in 2007 vs now: what the h-ll happened?
Slightly off-topic , but I remember a woman who was complaining to me that she matched with someone on Tinder , then became friend etc... and the man told her that "we should stop talking and seeing each other because your Instagram profile is similar to a whore" ( She had only 3-4 pictures of her in swimming suit , not bitchy at all).

She was complaining so much about this , because it was probably the first time a man tells her this ugly truth. We should ALWAYS remind women that such behavior is not correct. Women will ADAPT to what men say.
Once a woman has been told ten times that she is not interesting because she is instawhoring , and all her friends too , they will change and try to portray another image.
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(10-13-2019 08:28 AM)Polniy_Sostav Wrote:  Once a woman has been told ten times that she is not interesting because she is instawhoring , and all her friends too , they will change and try to portray another image.

I recently told a girl what I thought about Instagram, mentioning that it's the world's biggest prostitution agency and promotes bad habits among women.

*poof*

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(10-07-2019 01:27 PM)Solitaire Wrote:  The social media/dating apps stuff feels like it's taken the culture to the edge of a bottomless chasm, and kicked it right off. No coming back? Maybe, but I don't see how, though also I haven't given it much thought yet.

Back in 1992 - I was about 24 years old, haha - I was quite excited to be exploring the wild west of the internet, the brand-new WWW, with urls and pages and pictures and everything. It was so liberating, compared to the dinosaur BBs from the 80s. And wow, what's this? AOL, got chat rooms and whatnot, got it's own content, etc. I actually private chatted with a chick from Tallahassee, drove over and spent the weekend with her. So that was cool. Those were the days, man. What gework said, as well - Tinder, the dumb FB dating thing, whatever - practically nothing but 5s and below (waaay below, sometimes). Whenever I do see a decent looking girl, RVF whispers into my ear ...

I had similar experiences in the early 2000s. There were barriers to entry that kept the population of people online restricted. You had to have a computer, internet, know how to navigate to to the particular places where these chat rooms were (you couldn't just google it). If you actually had a digital camera or scanner you were a God.

The women would both respond, and be interesting to talk to most of the time because they had a brain capable enough of the above steps. The younger ones were cool alternative type girls, the older ones were sly bored housewives. It was great, but then as more people got computers, especially IRT trolls and spammers it wasn't worth the time anymore.

That would be my advice to anyone in modern times, find an online or in person niche that has barriers to entry that favor you over other men.

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RE: Online dating in 2007 vs now: what the h-ll happened?
Dating apps have ruined women and I feel could be single biggest factor in a depopulation epidemic that is likely to become extremely noticeable over the next 10 years, as the current crop of early 20 somethings reach their 30s having no interpersonal relationships to show for it.

The dominance of smartphones has bread a normalcy to behaviours which are in essence anti social and fully detrimental to developing actual relationships. I often think a lot of the current dating BS would be mitigated if peoples only means of communication, between face to face encounters, would be to pick up a landline telephone and actually call them. Texting, WhatsApp, Snapchat etc have normalised these pseudo interactions and half conversations, which are so trivial they would not even warrant a simple phone call. They end up being an irritation to most guys and a source of resentment for women, when they ultimately decide Dave is an asshole because he couldn't be arsed to reply to her barrage of Dog selfie's and ultimately sabotages the relationship in favour of the attention from some online stranger; who's far too happy to entertain her neediness in the slim hope of scoring some pussy.

None of its real. These means of communication are delusional and they shelter people from the calibrating effects of social feedback that come with actually speaking to someone. Many women today are too shy to answer the phone to someone they actually know, but content enough to post filtered pictures of themselves half naked on social media for a few fire emoji's from online nobodies.
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RE: Online dating in 2007 vs now: what the h-ll happened?
Honest question to think about. How many of us actually have ANYTHING in common with modern women?

They think the current clown world is normal. We think it's doomed. They think it's cool for a woman to sleep around and have a notch count in the triple digits. We think it's disgusting. Their entire time is spent getting attention from social media. We think it's gross. Their entire existence revolves around what their equally dumb friends think. It's repulsive to us. How can such a dumb, ineffective, useless creature have so many luxuries?

Has there ever been a time where there was such an ideological gap between men and women? They've all drank the koolaid and we're left thinking what the hell happened, are there any normal women left???

They all subscribe to the dumbest ideals, live contradictory lives, are immune to criticism, and see men as accessories.

I am utterly clueless. Someone try and sell me on the idea of women. What's so god damn good about them?
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^I could make a pretty good argument that the disconnect between men and women is currently larger than it has ever been. Women have even managed to torpedo the one thing that makes them unique and the one true gift they have to offer- the biological imperative. Many men, including myself, have begun to question whether to produce progeny with them.

Here in USA women have always had a gun...but a gun is useless without bullets. What’s different now is the government (and culture) has supplied the bullets. Women can behave in any manner without impunity, backed by the strongest entity that’s ever existed- the United States government.

It’s tough to win that one if you’re a man.

It takes a special person to refuse to eviscerate someone even when they can do it anytime they want, reasons be damned, and have the full backing of the strongest entity on earth. I know nary a woman that could resist the siren call of such a deal.

We all know the laundry list of expectations that women have of men. What, may I ask, are the expectations that men have of women?

It never gets mentioned.

50 years ago this was understood- each sex knew their role and expectations. Now nobody knows their role and there are no cultural/societal/religious checks on this.

I fear only a divine correction can right the ship.
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Women act like this because men enable them in a first place. Just try to be a decent looking woman for 1 day and you will get countless messages begging for pictures, offers for free vacations, gifts and endless attention. And thats JUST online. Girls think that it's normal, one girl friend even asked me "Why would you even watch porn, when you can just get a real girl for sex from tinder". They are just clueless about SMV and shit like that, they dont even think about that, they are too busy focusing on their own shallow life. It's just different reality for them, and we can only blame thirsty soyboys and gouvernement not these dumb girls.
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They don't think about it because they don't need to.
Women will never admit the huge difficulty gap between getting laid as a man and getting laid as a woman.
That's why they think it's OK to slut around because "men do it too" (that is the Chads that pump and dump them).
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@nefarias agree that thirsty men are a large part of the problem.

The other aspect you’re overlooking is how self control is rewarded in SMP.

Soyboy is currently a 5 in SMV.

Say soyboy cleans up his act:
-no thirsty messages
-focuses on career/health
-no partying/self improvement etc

Soyboy manages to go from a 5 to a 7 in SMV.

Even the average woman (5 and 6’s) are shooting for the top 10%.

So soy boy’s reward for red pill self improvement in 2019?

Maybe a short term relationship or fwb with below average millennial woman.

Even then...he is still disposable.

Not all that incentivizing.
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It's best to advocate for personal responsibility, but how can one man make a society-wide change? If the pool of normal women is so limited, what's a man supposed to do? He can't keep fishing in toxic waters while expecting non-toxic fish.

And before anyone mentions traveling to a third world country to find a traditional wife, that's an insane solution and always was.

Think about when you were young and society wasn't completely devoid of morals yet. Did you ever imagine leaving your peaceful, rich, advanced, first world country and slumming it in the semi-diseased, poverty-stricken, backwaters of god knows where to find a wife?! No, you always envisioned finding a loyal charming woman from your own home country who you'd marry and start a family with.

Back then, if someone told you, "dude, drop these thin good looking American women and go a third worlder. Ya, they're poor, barely know how to read and write, and you can't really communicate with them, but she'd make a great housewife!". You'd say that he's lost his mind, and that you will find a good wife here in America.

Another reason why a foreign wife is not a solution is that it's a global world now. Third worlders know what's out here, and they want it. They want to be corrupted by the same influences that you despise. You bring a traditional wife here and in 5 years she'll become what you were escaping from in the first place. I always laugh when a man marries and overseas woman thinking she's any different. They're not. They want beta bux even more than the women here because they're poor. They will chew you up and spit you out like any modern women will.

I'm clueless, so I'm all ears for any workable solutions. What's a man supposed to do when he wants a good wife but decadence and wealth have completely ruined his women? And doesn't want to leave because he still likes running water, modern medicine, and decent laws?
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(10-13-2019 04:16 PM)Kungfu Wrote:  It's best to advocate for personal responsibility, but how can one man make a society-wide change? If the pool of normal women is so limited, what's a man supposed to do? He can't keep fishing in toxic waters while expecting non-toxic fish.

And before anyone mentions traveling to a third world country to find a traditional wife, that's an insane solution and always was.

Think about when you were young and society wasn't completely devoid of morals yet. Did you ever imagine leaving your peaceful, rich, advanced, first world country and slumming it in the semi-diseased, poverty-stricken, backwaters of god knows where to find a wife?! No, you always envisioned finding a loyal charming woman from your own home country who you'd marry and start a family with.

Back then, if someone told you, "dude, drop these thin good looking American women and go a third worlder. Ya, they're poor, barely know how to read and write, and you can't really communicate with them, but she'd make a great housewife!". You'd say that he's lost his mind, and that you will find a good wife here in America.

Another reason why a foreign wife is not a solution is that it's a global world now. Third worlders know what's out here, and they want it. They want to be corrupted by the same influences that you despise. You bring a traditional wife here and in 5 years she'll become what you were escaping from in the first place. I always laugh when a man marries and overseas woman thinking she's any different. They're not. They want beta bux even more than the women here because they're poor. They will chew you up and spit you out like any modern women will.

I'm clueless, so I'm all ears for any workable solutions. What's a man supposed to do when he wants a good wife but decadence and wealth have completely ruined his women? And doesn't want to leave because he still likes running water, modern medicine, and decent laws?

Join a very conservative church and begin to network. Attend co-ed bible conferences, events etc. Attend bible study with old people, tell them you are looking for a wife that is really committed to the lord. Old people will connect you if you are not a weirdo.

Older people are ignored in today's society yet are someone's family and full of wisdom, reach out to them in your church and you will reap large rewards.

This stuff isn't impossible. Subcultures for everything exist and are right under our noses yet seem mysterious and remote. Renaissance faire larpers and 'goths' are actual subcultures with sizeable amounts of people, you just have to know how to find them and get connected. The same goes with communities that have conservative women.

You may also have to accept that a conservative woman these days might not be that hot. That is a decision you'll have to make, as the more your wife looks like she could be an instagram model, the more strongly she will be offered temptations. Whereas if you take a christian woman with thick glasses, a lazy eye and scoliosis you can probably bet she will be devoted to you for her mortal life.

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RE: Online dating in 2007 vs now: what the h-ll happened?
Anyone other guys successful on tinder?

I'm not a top tier man - just decent looking with an average job and I can get dates and hookup easily with looksmatched women.

Perhaps some of you are in a bad location?
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(10-12-2019 11:10 PM)Mikeyd03 Wrote:  I went on a bumble date today. It’s amazing the standards these women have. It’s as if there is no margin for error...even the slightest imperfection is a reason to lose interest.

Can only be explained by the sheer number of options these women have.

Dating in America really can be discouraging.

Go online and that discouragement can quickly turn into a grim hopelessness.

Everything online has been a waste of time for me. The main thing I have gotten from it is a loss of confidence.

Social media + Online Dating + Thirsty men= Unlimited options for Women

Unlimited options= Delusional standards

If you fall anywhere outside of the right side of the bell curve...good luck.

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(10-13-2019 04:16 PM)Kungfu Wrote:  It's best to advocate for personal responsibility, but how can one man make a society-wide change? If the pool of normal women is so limited, what's a man supposed to do? He can't keep fishing in toxic waters while expecting non-toxic fish.

And before anyone mentions traveling to a third world country to find a traditional wife, that's an insane solution and always was.

Think about when you were young and society wasn't completely devoid of morals yet. Did you ever imagine leaving your peaceful, rich, advanced, first world country and slumming it in the semi-diseased, poverty-stricken, backwaters of god knows where to find a wife?! No, you always envisioned finding a loyal charming woman from your own home country who you'd marry and start a family with.

Back then, if someone told you, "dude, drop these thin good looking American women and go a third worlder. Ya, they're poor, barely know how to read and write, and you can't really communicate with them, but she'd make a great housewife!". You'd say that he's lost his mind, and that you will find a good wife here in America.

Another reason why a foreign wife is not a solution is that it's a global world now. Third worlders know what's out here, and they want it. They want to be corrupted by the same influences that you despise. You bring a traditional wife here and in 5 years she'll become what you were escaping from in the first place. I always laugh when a man marries and overseas woman thinking she's any different. They're not. They want beta bux even more than the women here because they're poor. They will chew you up and spit you out like any modern women will.

I'm clueless, so I'm all ears for any workable solutions. What's a man supposed to do when he wants a good wife but decadence and wealth have completely ruined his women? And doesn't want to leave because he still likes running water, modern medicine, and decent laws?

Yes, I know exactly what you are talking about and indeed, these are the questions. The most standard answer is, "go there" but of course make sure it's an acceptable place to even consider (yes, I know by comparison there aren't many).

The biggest issue is the social challenge of being somewhat older and, if you want a family, the almost certain requirement of the girl being 30 (+/- a couple of years) at the oldest. The age at which the western hambeasts get humbled is even increasing since the gravy train, corporate or governmentt jobs haven't run out yet. They won't get quite as much attention as they age, or will perceive that it's not worth it to risk a better catch than they deserved at 30+ (if they happen to nab him), but what good does that do a solid guy with resources who is just a bit older? He still gets last pickings in the West. Yes, the younger girls if not properly raised or first partner will get crazy attention if they are anywhere near even a 7 rating. That's the danger of the west.

If one must, the only strategy of importing a woman would be a) to a rural area, b) make sure she's pregnant early and often, and c) pray.

You have to decrease the possibilities as much as you can. Once you've made her a mother and put some weight on her, along with the "wall" approaching, it behooves her to stick with that if you aren't in a city where a 5 minute walk or a 15 minute drive is insanely easy, as a opposed to a 45-60 minute ride to meet some random JimBob Cooter that is exponentially hard to pull off with kids and other responsibilities to take care of.

Get your passport ready!
10-14-2019 09:23 AM
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RE: Online dating in 2007 vs now: what the h-ll happened?
(10-13-2019 08:35 PM)Dr. Howard Wrote:  You may also have to accept that a conservative woman these days might not be that hot. That is a decision you'll have to make, as the more your wife looks like she could be an instagram model, the more strongly she will be offered temptations. Whereas if you take a christian woman with thick glasses, a lazy eye and scoliosis you can probably bet she will be devoted to you for her mortal life.

I hear you, but here's where the rubber hits the road, and makes it so hard since so many women are average to bad or just, homely. Often the greatest in personality is also because they had to be nice, kind, solid precisely because didn't do anything to you looking at them. It is true that the hotter she is the more dangerous she is though, absolutely no doubt.

I come from a conservative niche and while I can't say that I went 0-fer in my entire life of potentials coming from various "connections", I would say even the most traditional from my religious circles are still American which means they are acculturated into everything west no matter how traditional they are otherwise --- anti age gap, long travel to church for "communities", and pushing their daughters to college and beyond.

I'm sad to say that the career thing is just something you will not change until an economic collapse hits and functional destroys those dreams or the possibilities. Sadly, it's the #1 factor why women are so much worse in the west = you don't get them at their best, most fertile ages and they don't learn how to take care of a man and home, on average.

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RE: Online dating in 2007 vs now: what the h-ll happened?
Here's an observation from the field for what it's worth.

When I was last working online dating I gradually adopted a more and more merciless policy of bailing on leads when there was a lack of spark or red-flags. At first I was bending over backwards to reach the icebreaker/first-date stage. Then I started vetting at the online chat stage, which has cut my first dates down to zero.

What I found most instructive was the period where I was going on all those failed first dates. I realized that the majority of women, at least women who would meet me off dating apps, are BORING to me.

1) Soccer moms who have no life beyond their children .
2) Yuppie moms who are like 1) but carrying Gucci bags and driving Volvos
3) Struggling immigrants I have nothing in common with

The most interesting were women who never married and never had kids. These were the types who had seen the world and done a bunch of things, so they had tales and time on their hands. The problem is they never settled down because they were some shade of crazy.

I think everyone has two kinds of a type, a physical type and a personality type. In the past I used to barrel through as long as she passed the physical criteria but now I know when she won't click any farther than the initial stages when both sides are always on their best behavior.

When I do the math now, the odds are not good. The only upside is I have surely spared myself a few dead-end short-term relationships I could have had in the interim, and who needs that drama?

I think as guys we tend to think in terms of goalposts. If we get beyond a goalpost, we're home-free. And that's what I've moved past. It doesn't really matter if you get a right swipe or not if you meet the person and she's as dull as a sack of rocks. It takes a lot of discipline to turn away a lead over a disqualifying criteria when you don't get leads very often. But investing in someone when you're not feeling it 100% is a recipe for trouble. Just because she's willing to proceed doesn't make it worthwhile.
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10-14-2019 10:05 AM
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RE: Online dating in 2007 vs now: what the h-ll happened?
Truth is, there is no solution. Once you swallow the redpill you just cant be truly happy ever again.

Every time I like a girl, I'm trying so fucking hard to not see her character flaws, her shallow mind etc. Just to be happy for a few weeks and "love" her and feel loved. But I cant trick my brain into being ignorant - once you get to the stage where you experinced/have knowledge of how things work, I get more depressed and angry on myself - why cant I just be clueless and happy. Every fucking time I take her to a dinner or spend money on her I think "she fucked some guy for a 5 dollar drink, why should I buy her gifts and shit?" shit, sometimes it was me who fucked her after few drinks and now she is acting like a princess talking about "one day I want a guy thats gonna buy me a diamond ring" (that really happened to me, I was fucking speechless - I rawdoged her like 5 minutes ago knowing her for 2 hours and she tells me how she only dates guys after 6 months of "friendship" - poor guy who ends up wifing her up) Every time some girl does that stupid "omg you are so awesome thank you" teehee bullshit I feel angry and tricked for doing something for her. I spend my time with her just because she has a pussy, and I feel weak and stupid for that.

But what else is there for a man? Travel and fuck sluts gets old quickly but what are the alternatives? Get married, work 50h/w, have kids, divorce, burnout from work, depression, regret, die? Honestly sometimes I hate redpill. Killed my happiness in life. Gotta get religious and change my mindset I think.
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