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RE: Online dating in 2007 vs now: what the h-ll happened?
With my looks I just cannot do the Online Game anymore, and my career is not something that makes women's panties drop. I actually pulled 7's off Tinder up to 2017,but then it dried up as Tinder became more and more commercial.

While I myself weight (and I was never fat to begin with), and bulked up, and objectively just improved myself physically, I am getting fewer looks, since the women s eyeballs are now all focused on their smartphones. Luckily, they still cannot Salsa dance while looking at their smartphones.

This is the way it is, but at least none of us are being conscripted to a world war, or having to marry just to get a senior position at a company. I know a few older unmarried men(or childless widowers), and they are fine. They can afford everything they want, even a live in 24/7 maid who will take care of them. They can get female companionship but rather not to. For retirement, these guys are all heading to Portugal, Spain or south of France. Not the worst way to go.

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11-10-2019 08:31 AM
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RE: Online dating in 2007 vs now: what the h-ll happened?
(11-10-2019 08:31 AM)AntoniusofEfa Wrote:  This is the way it is, but at least none of us are being conscripted to a world war, or having to marry just to get a senior position at a company. I know a few older unmarried men(or childless widowers), and they are fine. They can afford everything they want, even a live in 24/7 maid who will take care of them. They can get female companionship but rather not to. For retirement, these guys are all heading to Portugal, Spain or south of France. Not the worst way to go.

This is an elephant in this forum’s room: many men reading this post will never marry nor remarry if divorced. This means many would be wise to plan their futures with assumption that they’ll face it alone.

Don't spend all your energy on sex and all your money on women; they have destroyed kings. (Proverbs 31:3 GNB)
11-10-2019 10:39 AM
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RE: Online dating in 2007 vs now: what the h-ll happened?
(11-10-2019 10:39 AM)N°6 Wrote:  
(11-10-2019 08:31 AM)AntoniusofEfa Wrote:  This is the way it is, but at least none of us are being conscripted to a world war, or having to marry just to get a senior position at a company. I know a few older unmarried men(or childless widowers), and they are fine. They can afford everything they want, even a live in 24/7 maid who will take care of them. They can get female companionship but rather not to. For retirement, these guys are all heading to Portugal, Spain or south of France. Not the worst way to go.

This is an elephant in this forum’s room: many men reading this post will never marry nor remarry if divorced. This means many would be wise to plan their futures with assumption that they’ll face it alone.

I am already operating from that assumption. I am divorced with children. I am closer to fifty than I am to forty. I live in a very liberal city in a blue state. What is the likelihood that I will attract a beautiful young woman in her twenties for anything other than a short term fling? Truth be told, that is exactly what I have been pursuing for the last several years since my divorce and I have been succesful at it.

In many ways I have grown selfish. I cannot imagine having a woman live with me full time any longer. I miss the warmth of a woman next to me in bed and yet I relish my time alone. I see and listen to the grumblings of friends and coworkers with regards to their wives, money, struggles, etc.

I don't think it is good for men to be alone even though we can handle solitude better than women. Genesis 2:18 tells us that God created Eve because he didn't want Adam to be alone. Yet here we are...us(RVF) and legions of incels, MGTOWs and other Blue Pillers. I suppose I am one of the fortunates since I already have children. I spend a lot of time trying to impart Red Pill Christianity to my daughters who are just now becoming young women. In many ways I worry more for them than for myself. There are several examples in my family of Gen X women who are unmarried and pursuing careers or who failed to launch. They are the cautionary tales. I think that my older daughter sees the contrast between them and her aunt who has six children.

I have mentioned in other posts that I teach part time at a local community college. I encourage any RVFers who have the educational background, ability and free time to look into becoming adjunct faculty. There are a great many young men out there who are lost and need direction.

For us men: make hay while the sun shines. Stack cash and pay down debt (including your mortgage). Max out retirement accounts and pursue any side gigs that you can. Look into disability insurance and nursing home costs versus a home care giver. Maybe we move to South America and set up an RVF compound where los padres are still respected? We can hire an entire village to look after us until we perish! If it takes a village to raise a child why doesn't it take one to wipe my incontinent, dementia addled ass when I grow older? lol

I'm only half kidding about that. I was fortunate to be at my father's bedside at the time of his death along with my siblings, many of his grandchildren and my aunt and uncle. I hope to die the same but I am steeling myself to the reality that they may not happen.

C'est la vie
11-11-2019 01:40 PM
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This is what we are dealing with nowadays:

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RE: Online dating in 2007 vs now: what the h-ll happened?
This is a great thread, throwback to the old RVF days

You have to have a lot going for you to do well online. Looks, perceived popularity/status, traveling, money. You also have to have an Instagram/Snapchat to back it up. It's much easier for an entire profile of 100+ pictures to motivate a new girl to see you vs the standard five photos from a dating app.

Ultimately, the ghost and flake rate is huge. I got a flake/ghost three days in a row this weekend, and that's with hoes I'd been talking to for 2-3 weeks.

You always have to have 5-10 main leads and 20-30 backups that you ping every once in a while. If you keep them all on your instagram profile then they are organized neatly in one place, with their face/tits/ass to help you keep track.

If I gave a blueprint to doing well online:

1. Looksmax. Gym, haircut, steroids, tan, teeth whitening. Don't be afraid of plastic surgery if you have a major flaw in your face. You only get a 10-20 years timeframe to breed with a young woman in the US, and if your pride is preventing you to improve your facial aesthetics, rethink whether that pride is preventing you from getting to the top.

2. Create carefully curated social media profiles. Any time you do something cool, stop, have someone take a picture, post the picture. Learn how to use social media to meet women. Do you think the most successful online daters actually talk to women on Tinder and Bumble? No, if the chick is a 8+ she has too many backed up matches to even get to your profile. If a girl is an 8+, I'll just add her on Instagram and message her.

3. Use the Christ angle as part of your brand. If you use social media/dating apps etc, you can screen for Christian women by carefully placing a Bible quote somewhere, posting a story at church, wearing a cross, etc.

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RE: Online dating in 2007 vs now: what the h-ll happened?
“Use the Christ angle as part of your brand.”
Sounds great!
11-12-2019 06:20 AM
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RE: Online dating in 2007 vs now: what the h-ll happened?
If a certain female body part is all that matters...well, there are now many realistic-feeling inanimate substitutes on the market.

If on the other hand you want long-term loving companionship, a home, and maybe to raise children with another human being, that is a different matter entirely.

It is very important to decide what we really want.
11-12-2019 07:36 AM
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RE: Online dating in 2007 vs now: what the h-ll happened?
(11-12-2019 12:47 AM)Graft Wrote:  This is a great thread, throwback to the old RVF days

You have to have a lot going for you to do well online. Looks, perceived popularity/status, traveling, money. You also have to have an Instagram/Snapchat to back it up. It's much easier for an entire profile of 100+ pictures to motivate a new girl to see you vs the standard five photos from a dating app.

Ultimately, the ghost and flake rate is huge. I got a flake/ghost three days in a row this weekend, and that's with hoes I'd been talking to for 2-3 weeks.

You always have to have 5-10 main leads and 20-30 backups that you ping every once in a while. If you keep them all on your instagram profile then they are organized neatly in one place, with their face/tits/ass to help you keep track.

If I gave a blueprint to doing well online:

1. Looksmax. Gym, haircut, steroids, tan, teeth whitening. Don't be afraid of plastic surgery if you have a major flaw in your face. You only get a 10-20 years timeframe to breed with a young woman in the US, and if your pride is preventing you to improve your facial aesthetics, rethink whether that pride is preventing you from getting to the top.

2. Create carefully curated social media profiles. Any time you do something cool, stop, have someone take a picture, post the picture. Learn how to use social media to meet women. Do you think the most successful online daters actually talk to women on Tinder and Bumble? No, if the chick is a 8+ she has too many backed up matches to even get to your profile. If a girl is an 8+, I'll just add her on Instagram and message her.

3. Use the Christ angle as part of your brand. If you use social media/dating apps etc, you can screen for Christian women by carefully placing a Bible quote somewhere, posting a story at church, wearing a cross, etc.

I'm not saying it isn't effective, but man, that sounds like such a faggy miserable existence having to keep up with all that self absorbed /tech nonsense.

I have success online but I use it just to supplement my day to day life. My tactics are barebones basic and require minimal effort and it still feels like a weak persuit.

What's it all for anyways? So you can have another bar date with another Stacy?

I don't know why, given the shift of the forum, anyone here even cares about online dating anymore. Everyone here should be looking at and promoting other avenues.
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RE: Online dating in 2007 vs now: what the h-ll happened?
That same 8 who is swiping left on my tinder profile is going to get number closed when we run into each other at the supermarket.

I'm of average looks but in great physical shape. I have good pictures but I have little to no instagram presence and really don't care to cultivate one at my age (26).

My online matches are a joke, (5s and 6s) but I find solace in knowing that, in 2019 at least, approaching IRL is still the great equaliser.

A great way to meet quality women without having to get sucked into the vortex of vanity that is Instagram.

@Graft are you serious ? Plastic surgery ? It all seems like a little too much just for the previlege of getting a date with a girl who likley really doesn't offer much besides her looks anyway.
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(11-12-2019 08:09 AM)Sensei Creation Wrote:  @Graft are you serious ? Plastic surgery ? It all seems like a little too much just for the previlege of getting a date with a girl who likley really doesn't offer much besides her looks anyway.

I've seen guys going bald at 25 years old. Dudes with the weakest chins that you can imagine. Chubby faces with no defining features. And all of them were almost completely fixed after paying 3-5k to a doctor. That move right there just turned those guys from sterile to potential husbands and fathers.

Not to mention all of the benefits outside of women, such as making powerful business & social connections. There are probably hundreds of high level VPs in my company-none of them are fat or totally ugly.

Guys also think that it's a tough procedure-most of them are 30 minutes or less, no anasthesia.

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11-13-2019 02:53 AM
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RE: Online dating in 2007 vs now: what the h-ll happened?
A chubby face can be fixed with a diet. Two of my friends had to do facial surgery: One was kicked by a horse as a teenager, and had his jaw bone shattered. Another friend was born with a bone missing in his face. But both of these are extreme cases.
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RE: Online dating in 2007 vs now: what the h-ll happened?
I agree with Graft, there are cases where guys can go up a full point in attractiveness with a simple procedure. No different from getting braces and teeth whitening. Chin and hair implants would be the classic example. It's not 1990 anymore, there has been progress in procedures and the world is viciously competitive now so why not.

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RE: Online dating in 2007 vs now: what the h-ll happened?
(11-13-2019 04:17 AM)RawGod Wrote:  I agree with Graft, there are cases where guys can go up a full point in attractiveness with a simple procedure. No different from getting braces and teeth whitening. Chin and hair implants would be the classic example. It's not 1990 anymore, there has been progress in procedures and the world is viciously competitive now so why not.


Guys who start balding early in their 20s are bad candidates for hair surgery, most likely they will end up totally bald and there is not enough quality hair on the back to cover bald area, classic example is Neil Strauss.

Chin implants sounds a bit extreme to be putting piece of silicone or whatever in your chin and some looks ridiculous obvious, maybe face slimming or sculpting.
Noticed women do these kind of procedures, seems like bloated chubby face is seen as unattractive in both sexes.
11-13-2019 05:47 AM
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(10-13-2019 01:53 PM)Kungfu Wrote:  Has there ever been a time where there was such an ideological gap between men and women?

This unfortunality might be true.
11-14-2019 06:19 PM
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(10-19-2019 02:46 PM)Realbor Wrote:  Women today in the west are awful, its insane how crushed my heart has become because of them, im really really fucking sad right not, these women got no heart.

Don't fall in love with them, then.
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