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Married woman quits her job to become an ultramarathoner while living in a van
Family is on the backburner for many women so that they can experience personal achievement in career or athletics.

Quote:Sunny Stroeer knew it was time to quit her job when, toward the end of the Ghosts of Yellowstone 100-mile trail race in 2014, she started hallucinating about calendar invites from clients.

Born in Germany, Ms. Stroeer came to the U.S. to attend Harvard Business School and after graduation was hired at a consulting firm in Houston. Being an ultra weekend warrior while working 80-hour weeks had caught up to her.

“I was burning out,” she says. “Racers would go home to sleep and recover and I’d go home to hop on client calls.” In 2015, she quit her job, moved into her Chevy Astro van and dedicated her days to trail running.

Ms. Stroeer, 34, describes herself as a high-altitude endurance specialist or, in simpler terms, a mountain athlete. “I was an OK ultra runner but a passionate high-altitude mountaineer, so I combined the two and now I tell people I try to go up mountains as fast as possible,” she says. “I love the psychological challenge and sense of personal discovery. It’s a physical test, but also a mental one to see how much adversity you can deal with.”

In 2017, Ms. Stroeer gained attention in the adventure world when she set the female speed record of eight hours and 47 minutes up Argentina’s 22,841-foot Mount Aconcagua, South America’s highest peak. She is part of a growing number of athletes who eschew race medals for the glory of setting their fastest known time, or FKT. Because it involves no sanctioned race, athletes announce their intended goal in advance so others can follow along and verify their claims via live GPS tracking.

Ms. Stroeer jokes that mountain running is a very slow sport. “The running part is kind of a misnomer, as the majority of the time you’re power hiking,” she says. “It’s taken me nine hours to cover 1.5 miles.” This summer she attempted and failed to set a speed record on Nolan’s 14, a route over the 14 summits over 14,000 feet in Colorado’s Sawatch Range.

She’s training for speedy summits of Denali in Alaska and Island Peak in Nepal and hopes to complete the Ultra Gobi, a nearly 250-mile, self-supported race in China next year that must be finished in under 149 hours. These days she and her husband make money leading mountain expeditions and move their van between Colorado, Utah and California so she can train. She hopes to land sponsorships that will allow her to continue her mountain pursuits.

When Ms. Stroeer lived in Houston, she would run 3 to 5 miles on the road during the week and do longer runs on weekends. To prepare for a high-altitude race, she would use a hyperbaric chamber and do treadmill and strength workouts at a simulated 12,000 feet to 17,000 feet up to five hours a week.

Now her workouts focus on three things: training at altitude, maximizing time on her feet and increasing the vertical distance she covers each week. If she has a record pursuit at 14,000 feet or higher, she moves her van to a location that allows her to sleep and train at altitude. For example, she spent much of this summer in Leadville, Colo., a town at 10,152 feet.

Spending as much time as possible on the trails helps her develop lateral stability in her calves and ankle strength, she says. During a peak training week, she might spend over 30 hours on the trails, covering around 80 miles with 28,000 feet of vertical gain.

Ms. Stroeer’s husband, Paul Gagner, quit his job last year to travel with her. He hates running but joins her rock climbing twice a week. “It’s great for building core and leg strength, as well as improving flexibility and agility,” she says. She also does a seven-exercise body-weight circuit three to four days a week. Exercises include planks, push-ups, crunches and Russian twists, where she balances in boat pose and twists from right to left.

“I always have tight hamstrings and calves, so pigeon pose and forward bends are daily rituals,” she says. A lack of sleep was one reason she decided to quit her job. “I was averaging four hours a night,” she says. “I now try to get 10 to 12 and nap when I’m in peak training.”

In the run-up to a big-mountain mission, Ms. Stroeer eats as clean as possible. “I double down on vegetables, salmon, avocados and cottage cheese and I cut out alcohol, caffeine and minimize processed foods and sugar, sometimes for as much as four months in advance,” she says. “I place great emphasis on weaning myself off caffeine so that my receptors are extra sensitive to caffeine stimulation when I get to a point in the run where I want that boost.”

At race aid stations she eats everything in sight, including ramen, quesadillas and grilled cheese. On unorganized runs she relies on energy-dense chews, waffles, gels and drinks. A two-burner stove serves as her van kitchen. “Dinner is pretty formulaic,” she says. “Protein, starch, veg.”

Ms. Stroeer swears by her Leki Micro Trail Pro trail running poles ($200). She prefers to wear an all-terrain mid-top boot made by Lowa rather than trail running shoes. Her running is slow and technical enough that she considers the shoes’ extra weight a necessary trade-off for stability. “I go faster knowing I can charge through ankle-breaking terrain in boots,” she says. For big races, she carries a 12-pound pack with 2 liters of water, a headlamp, a puffy jacket, gloves, rain shell, iodine tablets to purify water and a bivvi bag.

“When I have missions where I am alone in bear country and below tree line in the dark, I will often put a podcast on and play it on speaker to distract myself from worrying about bears and to make noise so that any bears in the vicinity hopefully hear me approaching and scatter before I run into them,” she says.

Trail Running for Mere Mortals
Adopting trail running can feel like learning to run all over again, says Rich Airey, founder of Denver-based BlackSheep Endurance. Mentally, you need to accept that you’re going to be slower, he says.

“It helps to ditch the watch,” he says. “You might run a seven-minute mile on the road and only a quarter-mile in that same time on trails.” Walking during a race is considered sacrilege by many road runners, he says, but on trails, you can often hike uphill faster than you can run.

Mr. Airey says it’s also easy to overextend your stride running downhill. “Ideally, you want to have your heel under your hip and keep your cadence at around 170 steps per minute, even on the downhills,” he says.

Strengthening the tendons around the ankle will help prevent sprains. Mr. Airey suggests using resistance bands to work ankle flexion and extension and doing calf raises off a step or curb. Samuel Adams, associate professor of orthopedic surgery at Duke University Medical Center, also suggests doing exercises that work proprioception, or body awareness, such as squats or lunges performed on a BOSU ball.

Dr. Adams says runners whose strides land on the outer edge of the foot tend to have a higher likelihood of rolling or spraining their ankles. “A shoe that does not have a high arch can help with this,” he says. He recommends an ankle brace for added stability.

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Saw a similar story with a worse ending than this recently.

Summary:

A girl dedicated her life to running form a young age, eating little to to keep ultra-slim. At 27 she found out that her ankle had 'died'. She hadn't had a period in 8 years due to her restrictive diet.

The first thing she did when she recovered ... start running again.

Full story

How she looked at 28.

[Image: _106490379_gina3.jpg]

And there could only be one ending to this story - she's getting married.
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I mean, it is better than keeping a spreadsheet of all the ransoms you’ve slept with...
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Women's sports...who cares?
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A woman wants to spread her wings and figure out who she is and her life goals? Great, don't let her do it off your back. Never be a woman's launching pad. Patrice had a bit about this but can't find it.
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Better than being a fatass landwhale shoveling pizza and burgers in her mouth and guzzling soda/beer 24/7 though. I dated a girl just like this one in the OP. A successful scientist and triathlon nut. She was hot and pleasant but impossible to make a connection with.

Conversion vans are starting to become common now and actually warrants a datasheet. I am considering it myself (not to live in but for taking regional trips). A lot of women are paying north of 100k for professional jobs while 'do-it-yourself' men are doing for 10k with equal quality (plus cost of van itself ~25k in both cases).




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(10-07-2019 04:03 PM)Eazy_E Wrote:  Women's sports...who cares?

To be fair, I don't care much about a bunch of attention whoring guys monkeying around on remote mountain peaks either.

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I've always noticed the whiff of status seeking about endurance and mountain sports. It's the "correct" recreation for the aspiring upper middle class strivers. Drop that you are into bodybuilding or fishing before the meeting at work, crickets. Ultramarathon or something with bicycles? You're in the club.

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(10-07-2019 03:41 PM)gework Wrote:  Saw a similar story with a worse ending than this recently.

Summary:

A girl dedicated her life to running form a young age, eating little to to keep ultra-slim. At 27 she found out that her ankle had 'died'. She hadn't had a period in 8 years due to her restrictive diet.

The first thing she did when she recovered ... start running again.

Full story

How she looked at 28.

[Image: _106490379_gina3.jpg]

And there could only be one ending to this story - she's getting married.

Yikes she looks about 60 in that photo

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What's the poor girl supposed to do, she's Welsh?
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I personally don't see anything wrong with this. Yeah, obviously she should be home raising children, but mountain climbing takes just as much effort and mental strength. Kudos for setting records - I'd reckon maybe 0.1% of the human population is capable of what this woman is doing. Even if they could physically make it, most can't make it off their ass mentally. Better to hear about women tackling tough challenges than about fat women keeping spreadsheets.
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https://www.lonelyplanet.com/articles/ho...nlifecosts

Girl buys a POS van that's older than she is off Craigslist, because Instagram, barely knows which end to put the gas in, then cries when a mechanic of low scruples takes advantage of her on a repair that I'd basically call PM. Can't get much more 2019 than that.
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For any guy who can't see the red flag in this behaviour, it is classic narcissism. It has just manifest itself in extreme exercise.The husband is no less subservient to her ultra marathon running, than he would be to her corporate life, if she so chose to remain in that world. All the same relationship problems will arise as he has become secondary to her "passion".
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It should be the other way around, the guy has a passion and embarks the whole family on the journey.
Nothing good comes when the guy is following the woman around.

I had the example just a few months ago: I was doing a walking pilgrimage from France to Assisi and Rome and met a Swiss couple in a benedictine monastery in France.
The girl's job was teaching Gregorian chants to monks and sisters in different monasteries in Switzerland and France. The guy was working online so he was able to follow her everywhere she went.
It seems like a great thing at first: "we will travel together, spend time together and both of us are working". But you are still following what your woman is doing, so she is leading you.
The guy knew it and talking to him I could feel a sense of desperation, he wasn't the man in the relationship anymore.
He strongly insisted that I come visit them in Switzerland at the end of my pilgrimage. And it was not just a friendly "hey you should come by", but don't really mean it, no he really wanted me to come.
I didn't quite understand his insistence, because first we barely knew each other and second swiss are not known to be that welcoming, so it was kind of weird. But thinking about it later on, I think that something in my journey inspired him and he really wanted me come to regain his masculinity (but far from me the idea of saying that I am a beacon of masculinity, I am still just a man trying to figure out my own path and doing a lot mistakes on the way).
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Certainly something troubling about this certain type of fitness fanatics, with good reasons noted above.

I know another woman, who had an abortion and then desperately tried to have a child via IVF at 41 ... to raise with her brother. Now looking at adopting a child (white) from a poor country. She was a fitness trainer and had to have her hip replaced and later heart surgery, before 40. First thing she did when she recovered was go straight back to fitness training. Good looking and also a nice girl, but ruined by a culture that has managed to be both insufferably left-wing and terminally materialistic. Her family tree hacked into decline.

And another. I was told by a gay psychiatrist who gives people elctro-shock treatment that one of his patients is a middle-aged woman who is a fanatical runner. She has some body dysmorphia and is obsessed with trying to loose weight, even though she's about five stone or 70lb. She runs about 20 miles / day. Not long ago I was walking in the hills of Wales with a friend. We were walking down a single lane, country road when we saw a figure in the distance in florescent clothing. It was moving in a very odd way, very fluid, but very uneasy. As it got closer, my friend asked, "What's going on?" As she got closer we began to slowly receded into ourselves at the strange display. As she passed she said something unintelligible, but neither of use replied, being too worried and perplexed with what was in front of us - a precariously thin woman, who dominated the atmosphere for 100s of meters with her thick mental illness. It was very odd. Something you have to pull away from.
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I can't imagine her husband being the paragon of masculinity...picture telling all your bros that you're dropping everything and living in a van to pursue your wife's fitness pipe dream...big cringe
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Ultramarathons are just the new corporate pelatons. As said by RawGod. A big wank fest for upper middle class whites. No doubt she has an influential close 'male friend' / pretentious wanker who also runs ultra marathons. If you're not influencing your woman, someone else is.
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There was this regular at the hotel where i used to work, a 60 something guy who was a living container of red pill knowledge. He once said that man can have both family and career, but women can only have one or the other and pay the price. And the ones who choose career later in life find out that the price they paid is too high.
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(10-07-2019 05:40 PM)RIslander Wrote:  Better than being a fatass landwhale shoveling pizza and burgers in her mouth and guzzling soda/beer 24/7 though. I dated a girl just like this one in the OP. A successful scientist and triathlon nut. She was hot and pleasant but impossible to make a connection with.

Conversion vans are starting to become common now and actually warrants a datasheet. I am considering it myself (not to live in but for taking regional trips). A lot of women are paying north of 100k for professional jobs while 'do-it-yourself' men are doing for 10k with equal quality (plus cost of van itself ~25k in both cases).




"urban stealth van" Why do people have to call them such corny-ass names?
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Plus let's be honest, there isn't a damn thing stealth about a 10ft high 2500 work van parked any old where. That said, I thought the craftsmanship was high, but if we wants to be stealth, put some decals on it like "Billy's plumbing."

I'd like to see what I could do with a Kia Sedona. It's not a lot of room, but if it's a short time thing and not your perma house, it should be okay.
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I agree it's ridiculous to say it's stealth. However if you park in a low crime area, for only one night, and are quiet I doubt anyone will notice. Generally speaking in most states you can sleep in a vehicle in public areas as long as you aren't intoxicated.

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I don't see anything wrong with the article posted. I'd say she sounds like a rad chick. Just because she's moving into a van doesn't necessarily mean she doesn't want to have kids. It's not entirely uncommon for people to do this sort of thing nowadays. It's also much more interesting than having a typical 9-5 lifestyle. I agree that the man is a bitch for following her around though.
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Just another woman not interested in a traditional life. That is not uncommon anymore. I know this former coworker who is 36 now. I met her when she was 24. A very attractive Vietnamese woman with an hour glass figure, very feminine. In all the time I have known her I've never seen her with any man, never has had a boyfriend that I know of. She's highly educated with a master's degree in mechanical engineering. And all she does in travel incessantly all over the world trying to "feel alive". I kind feel pity for her. She should be married for 8-10 years with like three kids by now. She comes from a traditional Asian family. Both her parents are still alive and still married. Her sister is married with several children. It's ironic that she often posts IG photos of herself and her nephews but it never dawns on her to have children of her own. And she recently died her hair purple, another sign her trying to remain relevant.
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Stuff White People Like Wrote:#27 Marathons

In life, there are certain milestones of physical activity that can define you. A sub 5 second 40 yard dash, a 40 inch vertical leap and so forth. To a white person, the absolute pinnacle of fitness is to run a marathon. Not to win, just to run.

White people will train for months, telling everyone who will listen about how they get up early in the morning, they run when it rains, how it makes them feels so great and gives them energy.

When they finish the marathon, they will generally take a photo of themselves in a pair of New Balance sneakers, running shorts, and their marathon number with both hands over their head in triumph.

They will then set goals like running in the Boston Marathon or the New York Marathon.

If you find yourself in a situation where a white person is talking about a marathon, you must be impressed or you will lose favor with them immediately. Running for a certain length of time on a specific day is a very important thing to a white person and should not be demeaned.

More competitive white people prefer triathlons because Kenyans can’t afford $10,000 specialty bicycles.

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