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I've just had multiple packages I've ordered online from different retailers get delayed due to them being routed through Fresno, CA distribution centers. I have important business gear I need, but USPS/UPS apparently doesn't have enough diesel generators online to keep their sorting facilities working.

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(10-11-2019 02:56 PM)Roosh Wrote:  Gas prices have breached $5 in some areas as those with solar panels realize that it doesn't work when the power goes out (assuming they don't have batteries):

These things confuse me severely. There are supposed to be laws that keep price gouging during emergencies from happening. We have them here in Hawaii too. Thing is, the second the tsunami warning goes off, prices go up, nobody does anything. Strange.

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(10-11-2019 07:06 PM)Kona Wrote:  
(10-11-2019 02:56 PM)Roosh Wrote:  Gas prices have breached $5 in some areas as those with solar panels realize that it doesn't work when the power goes out (assuming they don't have batteries):

These things confuse me severely. There are supposed to be laws that keep price gouging during emergencies from happening. We have them here in Hawaii too. Thing is, the second the tsunami warning goes off, prices go up, nobody does anything. Strange.

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It's likely the "sue us" mentality. Meanwhile thousands of lobbyists in government billions to grease those gears.
10-12-2019 06:20 AM
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Interesting development.


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(10-11-2019 07:06 PM)Kona Wrote:  
(10-11-2019 02:56 PM)Roosh Wrote:  Gas prices have breached $5 in some areas as those with solar panels realize that it doesn't work when the power goes out (assuming they don't have batteries):

These things confuse me severely. There are supposed to be laws that keep price gouging during emergencies from happening. We have them here in Hawaii too. Thing is, the second the tsunami warning goes off, prices go up, nobody does anything. Strange.

Aloha!

The lawyers probably don't want to take these types of casing because they might draw attention to the fact that they're generally gouging people with exorbitant legal fees all the time.

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When I see California performing all of these actions and examining it from high above, it is as if someone/something/a group of interest wants to use this as a test case for the following:

Depopulation
Rewilding of an area
Developing of strategies to turn an area into their own little fiefdom

Then again, I am of the opinion that California should fall into the sea!
10-12-2019 03:15 PM
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(10-11-2019 10:23 AM)Dr Mantis Toboggan Wrote:  
(10-10-2019 05:47 PM)RIslander Wrote:  
(10-10-2019 04:55 PM)Dr Mantis Toboggan Wrote:  
(10-10-2019 12:39 PM)RIslander Wrote:  This is why you need to be armed at home and proficient with firearms.

Yeah, except this is California. You can have guns, but no evil scary black assault rifles or magazines with more than 10 rounds.

You don't need an AR-15. It isn't a good home defense weapon anyway because you're going to end up killing your neighbors whether you miss or not. It isn't effective in close quarters because its bulky and easily disarmed. A pistol with hallow points or a shotgun with buckshot are your best options.

And yes California sucks.

It depends on your experience and the construction of your house as well as ammo selection. My primary home defense gun is an AR, but I have put tens of thousands of rounds through the AR platform mostly in the military. I've carried it in combat and I have more confidence in my ability to operate it under stress than I do any other platform. IMO it has the highest ceiling of any home defense platform, but requires a lot more training to be able to use effectively than other options. For someone with no military background who isn't willing or able to spend at least a few hours a month training including professional courses at least a few times a year, I'd also recommend the shotgun with buckshot--but that has the same bulk and length issues as a rifle.

Overpenetration isn't as much of an issue as people think IF you get the right ammo. A good home defense round (I like 64gr Speer Gold Dots) will have far more stopping power than the standard 223/556 JHP round while also carrying much less of a risk of overpenetration--the trade off, aside from cost (and this isn't really a huge issue as you can use cheaper ammo to train), is that if the home invader finds good cover you likely won't be able to shoot through it. And in my case, the exterior of my house is brick so I'm not worried about that regardless of ammo although shooting through internal walls is still a concern.

There's a reason most military and SWAT units (at least in the US) have switched from pistol caliber submachine guns to the AR platform for urban combat over the past 2 decades. For people with a military or law enforcement background who have muscle memory operating the platform or who are willing and able to invest time and money training, I think an AR platform is best--ideally a suppressed pistol or short barrel rifle with about an 8-11" barrel (although if you don't have a suppressor, stick with the full length barrel and protect your ears). Otherwise, a shotgun with buckshot is good. Either way, get a good handgun that you can put in your nightstand (inside a biometric safe if you have kids or company) and use to fight your way to your long gun.

I agree with everything written here. The best defense is a pistol but you need to take classes on how to use it... and not from some state firearms safety course. I have extensive training in close quarters pistol usage (I know little to nothing of shotguns or rifles) and learned you need to know that up close you "keep it in the box". The box is a dual handed grip close to your body where you can shoot accurately a few feet a way, increase the chance of weapon retention and also where do you do your work such as clearing jams and reloading.

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(10-12-2019 03:28 PM)spokepoker Wrote:  

Not sure if this entirely the utilities fault: They clearly notified the public that there were going to be planned outages(most of us don't live in Cali and we know about this).

Re: 6:18 in the video: Most utilities keep lists of critical facilities and customers using various life sustaining equipment(like oxygen concentrators and home dialysis machines) and prioritize those customers in their restoration efforts and check in on them during extended outage events. If he never told them about his oxygen then they wouldn't have known, which is also possible.

So if this guy was a shut-in with spotty phone and internet service and never told PGE he was on oxygen, then it's possible they didn't know what was going on.

And this man had a bevy of health issues so we don't really which one did him in. While it's easy to blame this on the utility's incompetence, there's simply not enough evidence to prove lack of power caused his death.

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I live in Los Angeles - it boggles my mind that people even live in a lot of the affected areas. You're at risk of fires, mudslides and wildlife such mountain lions entering your backyard.
10-13-2019 12:13 AM
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(10-12-2019 11:31 PM)Goldin Boy Wrote:  Re: 6:18 in the video: Most utilities keep lists of critical facilities and customers using various life sustaining equipment(like oxygen concentrators and home dialysis machines) and prioritize those customers in their restoration efforts and check in on them during extended outage events. If he never told them about his oxygen then they wouldn't have known, which is also possible.

I tried to get my parents on that list when my mom was on oxygen as a lung cancer patient. They told me home oxygen wasn't critical enough, she needed to be on a ventilator.
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(10-13-2019 12:13 AM)WalterBlack Wrote:  I live in Los Angeles - it boggles my mind that people even live in a lot of the affected areas. You're at risk of fires, mudslides and wildlife such mountain lions entering your backyard.

If the power ever went out state wide or in LA/The Bay, you're in a much worse situation in those urban hellscapes compared to the people living in the rural areas dealing with mountain lions and the threat of natural disaster.
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(10-13-2019 01:16 AM)aeroektar Wrote:  
(10-13-2019 12:13 AM)WalterBlack Wrote:  I live in Los Angeles - it boggles my mind that people even live in a lot of the affected areas. You're at risk of fires, mudslides and wildlife such mountain lions entering your backyard.

If the power ever went out state wide or in LA/The Bay, you're in a much worse situation in those urban hellscapes compared to the people living in the rural areas dealing with mountain lions and the threat of natural disaster.

I think he is talking about the rich people in the hills, not rural people.

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(10-11-2019 07:06 PM)Kona Wrote:  
(10-11-2019 02:56 PM)Roosh Wrote:  Gas prices have breached $5 in some areas as those with solar panels realize that it doesn't work when the power goes out (assuming they don't have batteries):

These things confuse me severely. There are supposed to be laws that keep price gouging during emergencies from happening. We have them here in Hawaii too. Thing is, the second the tsunami warning goes off, prices go up, nobody does anything. Strange.

Aloha!

Thats cause price gouging is a (((natural reflex)))

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This is somewhat related, but for years there have been people in far Northern California and Southern Oregon wanting to form their own state called Jefferson. Imagine how much less bullshit the people living there would have to deal with if that actually happened (unlikely). Hell, I'd want to move there.
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(10-13-2019 03:30 PM)TigOlBitties Wrote:  This is somewhat related, but for years there have been people in far Northern California and Southern Oregon wanting to form their own state called Jefferson. Imagine how much less bullshit the people living there would have to deal with if that actually happened (unlikely). Hell, I'd want to move there.

How much bullshit do people in Southern Oregon have to deal with? I thought the problems were concentrated around Portland. I'm not very familiar with the states laws, but it seems to be much better in terms of personal freedom and corruption compared to places like California or Massachusetts.

But I see what you mean, there's a lot of people living in the 600 mile stretch between SF and Portland that share very little in the way of lifestyle or beliefs with those urban degenerates.

The map desperately needs to be redrawn, but probably won't be for a long time for various reasons.
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My brother and my ma both saying that PG&E is telling them the blackouts are going to be a recurring thing "especially as winter approaches" (those words my brother's and not sure where he got them). Mom does some housecleaning for a few older folks in the area, one of whom is hooked up to oxygen at night, so they gave him a heads up that it might happen again as early as Sunday.

It sounds like a combination of poorly maintained equipment and fear of lawsuits - regardless of the reasons it's interesting stuff nonetheless.

I mean, you'd think that with one of the most visible states in the country struggling to keep the lights on that this would a core topic being discussed on all those "news" programs where people get on and don't listen to each other speak.

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They couldn't figure out how to tie it to Trump so it was deemed irrelevant.

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(Yesterday 01:18 AM)aeroektar Wrote:  
(10-13-2019 03:30 PM)TigOlBitties Wrote:  This is somewhat related, but for years there have been people in far Northern California and Southern Oregon wanting to form their own state called Jefferson. Imagine how much less bullshit the people living there would have to deal with if that actually happened (unlikely). Hell, I'd want to move there.

How much bullshit do people in Southern Oregon have to deal with? I thought the problems were concentrated around Portland. I'm not very familiar with the states laws, but it seems to be much better in terms of personal freedom and corruption compared to places like California or Massachusetts.

But I see what you mean, there's a lot of people living in the 600 mile stretch between SF and Portland that share very little in the way of lifestyle or beliefs with those urban degenerates.

The map desperately needs to be redrawn, but probably won't be for a long time for various reasons.

The problem is that most bullshit laws in the US are made at the state level, far more than at the federal or local level (and when stupid laws are made at the federal or local level they're often enforced sporadically at best). In some states--California, New York, and Illinois being the best examples--the ultra-blue cities are more populous than the rural areas, and the latter therefore have no say in their own governance.

Washington state and Oregon are interesting cases in that both are dominated politically by Seattle and Portland respectively and those cities, while they have been blue for a long time, have really only been taken over by the radical extreme left in the last 2 decades or so--that somewhat recent history of sane governance combined with the vast rural areas in both states mean they do still have some decent laws at the state level--fairly reasonable gun laws in both states (although this is changing), no income tax in Washington, no sales tax in Oregon, etc. In many cases these safeguards are even hard-coded into the state constitutions--so, while the left will eventually overturn them, it will be more difficult for them to do so and will take them longer.

In my opinion the best places in the US for men and for families are major metropolitan areas in red or reddish-purple states. Places like Houston, Dallas, Atlanta, Charlotte, Raleigh-Durham, Phoenix*, Salt Lake City*, Tampa, Cincinnati, etc (I've never been to Phoenix or SLC so not endorsing them specifically but they fit the profile of what I'm looking for). These areas provide the best combination of the cultural and career opportunities of a major city with generally sane state-level governance--and while you will encounter some SJWism in the cities it doesn't tend be nearly as bad as in places like SF, Portland, etc. I'd also suggest a place where you can get a rural property within a few hours' drive as a bugout location.

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