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Serbian Women Schizophrenic Towards Intimacy
Myself and a few forum members are in Serbia, have been for a few months.

Roosh mentioned on his 7 Things I Learned About Serbian Women post that they are Schizophrenic towards intimacy. One minute, you have the most passionate woman ever, the next, she's ice cold and wants to leave.

This is true. I have experienced this time and time again despite doing quite well in most other places. So have my friends. All in all, this is a challenging place in many ways.

While we've all had some success in the dating realm, it is certainly not quite what I expected as relationships are (unfortunately) oftentimes short lived, flighty, and just kind of unstable and weird.

Events include girlfriends who you share a physical bond with suddenly deciding to leave your apartment before a romantic encounter occurs, girls being extremely reluctant to go on dates after meeting in real life, and apps like Tinder yielding very low numbers of responsive women. While Tinder is certainly a crappy place to look, I think that the low response rates say something about Serbian culture.

Alternatively, I've found that girls who once displayed extremely high interest upon meeting never follow through with wanting to actually set up a date.

This is in stark contrast to Ukraine, where a girl will never show interest at first (usually), but you can often times loosen her up a bit on a date, and you'll realize she's wanted to be with you all along. Additionally, Ukraine differs in that after a girl has decided to have a physical relationship with you, she is now stuck on you like glue and considers that you're dating. In Serbia, it could not be more different. Intimate contact may occur earlier on, but will almost never turn into something serious, almost as if by choice of the woman herself.

I can't say I've done poorly here, however it is a huge headache and I find Serbian women to be disengaging, flighty and really quite schizophrenic. I can't imagine finding a girlfriend here amongst all these headaches.

I often refrain from asking questions like this and letting my experiences sort it out, but this one is beyond frustrating and has me stumped. Why are Serbian women so bipolar when it comes to dating?

This seems to be an accepted fact amongst the expat community, and even the locals as well.

The solution I was proposed by my friend, who I often call the Serbian chad, was to play games back. He proposed inviting a girl over, and making no advances whatsoever, letting the hampster spin about why you're not trying. This is contradictory to the generally dominant, aggressive frame I usually have when in private with girls, where I'm unapologetic about wanting to be close to them.

That's not a solution that I am keen on trying. In some ways, I prefer the Ukrainian model where you have to go on 5+ dates with a girl before you end up getting anywhere. At least, at that point, you know a relationship is on the horizon and your efforts won't be wasted because she's decided to no longer participate. Weird.

Any feedback from experienced Serb travelers?
(This post was last modified: 10-10-2019 07:46 PM by ArloDash.)
10-10-2019 07:33 PM
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RE: Serbian Women Schizophrenic Towards Intimacy
«Alternatively, I've found that girls who once displayed extremely high interest upon meeting never follow through with wanting to actually set up a date.»

Lol thats Serbian girls I was there for 13 days not long ago, so not much experience. And you have been there for months? I guess you know them better than me. I already learned from day 1 serbian girls flake hard. Its nothing to take personally. So numbers game matters, If u set a date with 1 have 1-2 more in backhand. If you are not able to do that then I get your frustration. I always made sure to have backups, just in case and it worked everytime.

The girls there look intimidatingly good btw, I live in Norway and these girls give the scandinavians run for the money eaasyli. I rank serbian girl higher in looks.

Some of the gitls who flaked messages me daily, Wants me to come back. Ill have them as backups this time lol, and focus on the ones i already got.

I was in Belgrade btw,
10-13-2019 12:52 PM
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RE: Serbian Women Schizophrenic Towards Intimacy
I lived in Novi Sad, Serbia for about a month back in late 2017. I had similar experience. Serbian girls are receptive and friendly upon meeting and are seemingly excited to meet you...but I found getting an actual date was hard as balls to pull through. Social circle was what saved my butt while I was there.
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It seems that you're running into the girls' in-group preference. Serbia is famously nationalistic and ethnocentric. They are attracted, but realise that they'll face a lot of shaming and social pressure if they continue to see you. That creates conflict.

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(10-13-2019 09:15 PM)RawGod Wrote:  It seems that you're running into the girls' in-group preference. Serbia is famously nationalistic and ethnocentric. They are attracted, but realise that they'll face a lot of shaming and social pressure if they continue to see you. That creates conflict.

You do have a point. I went on a date and the chick told me «If a girl dates exessively she will be looked down upon like a whore» Either way I still had better results down there than in my hometown.

The only thing saving you there will be massive clout or social circle. Met alot of turks there (they dont need visa to visit) and Italian gamers and they all struggled big time. The Africans/cubans however cleaned up every corner, mainly club settings but in cafes in broad daylight too.
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In a certain sense, this is a classic rvf discussion. The girls are as good as they are precisely because they have good background genetics and are ethnocentric and nationalistic, as mentioned above. That equals difficulty if you are an outsider and let's face it, until now, the forum has been a place where overall quality wasn't the goal, but rather shorter term things with acceptable quality. Like everywhere else, if you don't have niche --- social, religious, family --- or all of the above, it becomes as hard a place as any. Especially given the fact that they don't have below average men who die early.
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(Yesterday 09:06 AM)Kid Twist Wrote:  In a certain sense, this is a classic rvf discussion. The girls are as good as they are precisely because they have good background genetics and are ethnocentric and nationalistic, as mentioned above. That equals difficulty if you are an outsider and let's face it, until now, the forum has been a place where overall quality wasn't the goal, but rather shorter term things with acceptable quality. Like everywhere else, if you don't have niche --- social, religious, family --- or all of the above, it becomes as hard a place as any. Especially given the fact that they don't have below average men who die early.

That's a fair point.

I'm at the point in my life where I'm over dealing with anything under a 7, and not I'd be hard pressed to LTR a 7 too.

Here's the thing...

Having the niche qualities you've mentioned above just isn't as important in other place.

Ukraine, Poland, even off the beaten path places like the Caucauses, it's entirely possible just to pair up with one girl and the two of you go off and do your thing.

It's why most decent guys who have their shit together end up with LTRs in Ukraine and not spinning plates.

I think in those places, most girls are just happy to meet a good man. Here, that's obviously a priority, but what qualifies as a "quality" man to them is definitely tougher.

Even still, I will not let myself or other people use this as an excuse to say "Oh well it sucks there," because it 100% does not at all, there's just a different marketplace that you have to learn the rules to and navigate accordingly.

The other thing is that quality of life in Serbia is really quite high for a foreigner. It's over 65 degrees today in October, clear skies, delicious food, high English levels and honestly, most people are friendly. Apartments are cheap. The visa rules are extremely lax. It's honestly easy to live here.

Compare that with Ukraine (or most other FSU countries) where the weather is terrible 4 months of the year, dealing with people is generally a shitty experience and English levels are low, apartments can cost more (Kyiv prices are insane right now and Belgrade is one of the cheapest), food is substandard, and visa rules are 90 in/180 out.

Serbia has some CLEAR advantages over anywhere else I've been.

These are all rare qualities that must not be ignored because the girls have a different way of navigating their romantic life.

In fact, I was previously close to saying this is the perfect country for an expat single man, but this is one little thing that's standing in the way of that.

Though what I will say...is that the guys I know here who are long term "player types" are mostly spending time with 6's and below. Not my cup of tea.
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Great post. Yes, their men are many levels above Ukraine, and along with that (as you state) the surroundings are better. They have loftier goals or desires that are far more attainable. Arlo, I'm with you, I hear Serbia calling Angel

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(Yesterday 09:41 AM)Kid Twist Wrote:  Great post. Yes, their men are many levels above Ukraine, and along with that (as you state) the surroundings are better. They have loftier goals or desires that are far more attainable. Arlo, I'm with you, I hear Serbia calling Angel

True re: the men and the economic state.

Though it's priced similarly to Ukraine (and even cheaper in some ways), poverty isn't as pronounced here.

And...plenty of guys here in Serbia who are good looking, like to lift, and generally cool. Genetically they're above Ukrainians by miles.

I ever had a Ukrainian girl visit me here who told me how she was surprised at how much more attractive the guys are here than there.

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(Yesterday 09:47 AM)ArloDash Wrote:  [quote='Kid Twist' pid='2029362' dateline='1571064087']
Great post.

And...plenty of guys here in Serbia who are good looking, like to lift, and generally cool. Genetically they're above Ukrainians by miles.

And the best wingmen... They are easy and outgoing and will go far to help you out in almost anything. Love my serbian brates Cool
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