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Weed legalization impacts in Las Vegas, Colorado, etc.
Was out in Las Vegas recently for the first time in 5-10 years. The crowd seemed a little more downscale outside the high-end casinos like the Wynn, with fewer white college kids and more minorities (particularly Mexicans). The other thing very noticeable were the weed dispensaries. Driving by these places right off the strip, we saw lots of young kids posing for pictures outside.

What has been the real-world impact of the changes in these laws in places like Colorado and Nevada? Curious especially to hear from people who live there, just to know what's ahead if they legalize it in my state.
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RE: Weed legalization impacts in Las Vegas, Colorado, etc.
It's been legal in my state for about 6 years now I think. Maybe 5 or 4, I don't remember when it was legalized officially.
There's been no impact really, people buy weed when they want it, go home, smoke it.
Nobody cares. At least now you don't have to find some shady dealer to get it.
Those who want to smoke it, can, and those who don't, still don't.

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RE: Weed legalization impacts in Las Vegas, Colorado, etc.
The downtown of Las Vegas (not to be confused with the Strip) is really a misfit jungle: the majority of people are very low-end individuals. It could serve as evidence for the decline of Western civilization. Pot smoking out in the open is common in this area.

You find a higher caliber of people (noticably women) on the strip, generally speaking - and with that, a lower amount of people that are smoking in broad daylight. Also, the surrounding suburbs are similar to other suburbian areas in America: i.e. Green Valley, Summerlin, etc. You have expensive homes, gated communities, nice parks, etc.

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We've had weed legal in canada for a year. And it's not a big deal, even the cops have said they don't have too many issues with people driving while high.
Drunk driving is still a much bigger issue police have to deal with.

I'm not much a weed smoker though, only a handful of times and it was from a doctor.

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In Edmonton we have some of the most liberal cannabis laws in Canada, we can legally smoke reefers in some parks,public venues, side walks, etc. https://www.edmonton.ca/city_government/...rules.aspx

There’s now hundreds of these privately run cannabis shops all over the city, with often hilarious names like The Ganja Hut. They were really busy for the first few months after legalization but most stoners still buy online (delivered to your door by Canada Post in 3 days) or from dealers because the government weed is over 50% more expensive and often old and stale. I recently bought a joint at a shop and on the package it said it was rolled six months ago, fuck that.

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I don't understand the problem people have with legalized weed, especially with a much more dangerous drug (alcohol) being legal and socially acceptable. It's already been mentioned not having to deal with piece of shit dealers anymore, but you also know exactly what you're getting and the strength of it. It's still a drug and should be respected, but we'd have a lot less problems if drunks, junkies and tweakers were smoking weed instead. Or not doing any drugs.

A dispensary is like a liquor or tobacco store. Go in if you want something, or walk by and carry on with your day.
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We have medical in my state. No real difference at all other than there is now a dispensary on every corner. I quit smoking but I'm in real estate so its great for business.
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RE: Weed legalization impacts in Las Vegas, Colorado, etc.
(10-10-2019 11:27 PM)spokepoker Wrote:  It's been legal in my state for about 6 years now I think. Maybe 5 or 4, I don't remember when it was legalized officially.
There's been no impact really, people buy weed when they want it, go home, smoke it.
Nobody cares. At least now you don't have to find some shady dealer to get it.
Those who want to smoke it, can, and those who don't, still don't.

This is my experience as well.

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RE: Weed legalization impacts in Las Vegas, Colorado, etc.
It’s great that it’s legal. You can but organic marijuana products that haven’t been treated with the pesticides, chemicals, etc that black market weed is.

Low IQ consumers/eaters are going to use mind-altering substances, I’d rather them be high than drunk. The legality of alcohol compared to weed is a massive joke and has been mentioned above in this thread/on this forum before. Alcohol reduces man to his base instincts: fucking and violence.
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RE: Weed legalization impacts in Las Vegas, Colorado, etc.
I visited Vegas last year, it was trashy and disappointing. Prostitutes everywhere charging for selfies, weirdos in costumes also trying to collect tips for selfies, all the amusements were just shiny money collection devices. We ended up spending most of the trip driving to death valley, the grand canyon, valley of fire, etc. It reeked of weed, the guys I went with had never known that smell before. I cant think of much I enjoyed about the city portion of the trip to be honest, prices were high, food was bad, whores were obnoxious, the crowds made me feel pity, the nature excursions were great though.
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I haven’t been to Vegas but getting baked and visiting the Grand Canyon sounds awesome, they also have an NHL team now so I should probably get my ass down there.

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RE: Weed legalization impacts in Las Vegas, Colorado, etc.
Friend of mine said he went into a weed shop in Denver and that it was depressing seeing the listless people in there. Said it's been a gateway to greater addictions like meth and oxy, which has been my personal experience with others over the decades (i.e. that a significant subset didn't stop at pot). Isn't the whole point of pot to get high? Whereas I can have a beer with a friend without that.

Legalized pot seems like example of societal decline, especially when people are walking around outside smoking it. Uber guy in LV said that technically it's illegal to do that but the city said they won't enforce it on the strip.
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RE: Weed legalization impacts in Las Vegas, Colorado, etc.
(10-12-2019 03:36 PM)Athanasius Wrote:  Friend of mine said he went into a weed shop in Denver and that it was depressing seeing the listless people in there. Said it's been a gateway to greater addictions like meth and oxy, which has been my personal experience with others over the decades (i.e. that a significant subset didn't stop at pot). Isn't the whole point of pot to get high? Whereas I can have a beer with a friend without that.

Legalized pot seems like example of societal decline, especially when people are walking around outside smoking it. Uber guy in LV said that technically it's illegal to do that but the city said they won't enforce it on the strip.


No reason to open the weed vs alcohol can of worms there, thats not going to win you any favor.

As someone whos 2 months sober from marijuana right now because I dislike the paranoia, laziness, and morning after brain fog it leaves me with all day, I will agree with you on the point that most people are listless. The dispensary I work next door to is very busy most of the time and I see some of the rattiest people and jank cars drive over there all the time. I feel sad for them that they spend so much time and money with weed that they never get out of that hole to improve themselves.
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RE: Weed legalization impacts in Las Vegas, Colorado, etc.
Weed doesn't make me lazy, and I enjoy doing physical activity when I'm high. If anything, I'd rather be doing something productive so I don't start over thinking too much. I will agree about it affecting social skills. I'm not as confident when I'm high, which is why there's a time and a place for it. You also have to be aware that you're over thinking things if it makes you paranoid or anxious. Or just not do it at all.

The thing I like about weed is that you're still in control, and it can even make you do some self reflecting. I will agree that a lot of people unfortunately abuse it and don't respect the fact that it's still a drug. Still a lot safer than the other shit that's out there.
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RE: Weed legalization impacts in Las Vegas, Colorado, etc.
When I was in Colorado, where it's been legal several years, I noticed a lower police presence, as well as an overall relaxed atmosphere. Not sure if this is due to their culture, legalization, or some combination of the two. Smoking a joint without the paranoia of possible police confrontation is great. Legalization of drugs is the first step to dismantling the prison industrial complex. Problem is, this complex is one of the last major employers in this country, and if it gets downsized in any way there will be large civil unrest. There are certain towns in rural America whose local economy revolves entirely around the prison That's why, despite legalization bringing in big tax $ and increasing QoL for most residents, globohomo politicians continue to rally against it. There's generally heavy backlash and lobbying from those with their hand deep in the pot (big pharma, prison companies, justice dept.) Correcting the catastrophe caused by the ((War on Drugs)) can be done, but it'll probably be one state at a time.
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RE: Weed legalization impacts in Las Vegas, Colorado, etc.
Marijuana closes your mind, mushrooms opens it (not hallucinogens by the way).

The whole legalize vs. illicit substance debate is Hegelian. The point of it is to get people to think that there is some great secret truth behind it being illegal, i.e. the Man doesn't want you to smoke pot because it will open your mind, when in reality it will just dumb you down. Maybe if you have chronic anxiety it will help you in the short term, but everyone I know who does that shit has misfiring synapses. Even the alleged engineers and scientists, grad students etc who do it have to take an uppy when getting serious. These people have no balance and cannot attain any sort of naturopathic equilibrium. The only medical component of some substantial value in that plant is CBD oil, but even that is far inferior compared to things wonders like Iridium or Chaga.

I've known several old farts who believed that smoking pot everyday would cure their cancer. Guess what, all of them still died, some horribly.

It will continue to be drawn out into legal / illegal battles because it is a non-issue, really, and what some of the other posters have mentioned with the (((war on drugs))) it creates profit for certain circles. I don't base my identity around the state of being high, or smoking dead plants to get demonic red eyes just to feel relaxed.

Of course if everyone was on it, we'd all be calm as Hindu cows and then the pedo-elites would have their perpetual human animal farm.

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RE: Weed legalization impacts in Las Vegas, Colorado, etc.
I haven't experienced any day-to-day living changes in my community out in the midwest. It's largely because there's no public smoking allowed. All the drug crime happening is largely gang on gang and has hardly effected anyone normal. I would say that when petty crime waves do happen, they have a larger impact but the frequency hasn't really changed.

Personally I don't smoke and only wish pot smoking on my worst enemies but will admit that nothing for me has really changed where I live except for secondary happenings related to pot. And when some serious crime does happen, 95% of the time it won't wont have anything to do with normal people.

I heard that its alot worse in places like Seattle and Colorado.
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The worst thing is that smoking weed is romanticized to such degree. It became a thing that cool kids do through the time it was illegal mostly because it was illegal - classic forbidden fruit, coming all the way from 60's, the rasta "culture" and generally not giving a damn about anything. I don't see the appeal, honestly. It's still a drug, a vice, and that it makes you feel better for a while doesn't mean it's beneficial. Alcohol, obviously, is worse, but humanity has a much longer history of using alcohol and its effects and downsides are much better known; the effects are more noticeable because alcohol is enormously more popular and widespread than weed is. We might be noticing much more adverse effects on the population when the pot catches up and continues to be used for longer periods of time.

And honestly, there's no good way to solve this problem. Prohibition doesn't work, it was already tried. People will continue to drink and, what's worse, do it irresponsibly. Besides, as said before, alcohol is part of the human civilization already, in Eastern Europe taking the form of a national habit. I remember when I was doing construction work, a woman who owned the property brought beers for the crew, I politely declined and in response I heard "what kind of man doesn't drink?". And that's what I fear might happen after years of legal weed in the west - that we'll be hearing "what kind of man doesn't smoke weed?" because it'll become so widespread and normalized as alcohol is. One won't replace the other; most humans see nothing wrong with vices or are incapable of rejecting them.
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Weed wouldn't be so bad if it were natural and on the level of the 1970s. It is far more potent now. It was banned mostly due to the dangers of hemp to the industry - hemp is a perfect plastic replacement as well as good for various medical treatments. Though I don't like industrial products to compete with agricultural land usage - food and decent living space takes precedence over land used to produce plastic-replacement, gas-replacement or burning material. That is one of the reasons food prices for poor countries went up since 2010.
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I know a lot of people who had considerable weed careers, one who still does. All of them, without exception gave up after ~10 years due to one reason - mental health: paranoia, anxiety, panic attacks. The one person I know who is till on it has said that he thinks he's destroyed his mind with weed, but still can't stop. He's 33.

I think the other big issue, beyond it inducing mental illness and changes in the mind, is the culture that surrounds it. Weed becomes practically the biggest thing. They think they are going next level and opening the doors to perception. If only the normies were getting dosed up, we could fix all the world's problems. They tend to have no destination in their lives, they just take whatever comes into their life, which is little. You can clearly see every year of their life get worse, in which case it's difficult to stave off depression.

I'm not convinced that prohibition could not work better. It works very well in Singapore, with the harsh punishments. Western countries haven't made an effort in prohibition, but it may be the case that it is societal frame that is the primary driver in keeping drugs at bay.
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(10-12-2019 03:36 PM)Athanasius Wrote:  Friend of mine said he went into a weed shop in Denver and that it was depressing seeing the listless people in there. Said it's been a gateway to greater addictions like meth and oxy, which has been my personal experience with others over the decades (i.e. that a significant subset didn't stop at pot). Isn't the whole point of pot to get high? Whereas I can have a beer with a friend without that.

Legalized pot seems like example of societal decline, especially when people are walking around outside smoking it. Uber guy in LV said that technically it's illegal to do that but the city said they won't enforce it on the strip.

I've actually noticed that everybody at the weed shops in Denver seems to be smiling, and they appear to be happy and relaxed. I find they look so friendly that I want to suggest we get together and smoke a bowl. Smoking pot is one of the easiest ways to meet people.

That being said, I find modern pot culture a little annoying, and wouldn't want to make a circle of friends just because we all smoke pot. I've also found that modern pot is so much stronger than the old stuff that I get overly stoned from even a single hit. I'm not exactly a pot enthusiast, but I have bought some and smoked it, and I am in favor of legalization.

I'm just saying, the people I've seen in pot stores seem very happy. That goes for the employees too. They look like the happiest workers I've known, and they don't just offer friendly service, they seem to genuinely be into helping you out.

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I'm 35 and have been smoking weed since I was 16. I love it.

Many of the negative effects mentioned here are due to smoking the 'wrong' form of the drug.

Marijuana most likely originated in Northern South Asia where it is still used today. This strain is known as Indica, the other variety is Sativa.

Now, since Western people, especially those in Amsterdam developed a culture of taking Cannabis they have been selectively breeding the plant according to their own needs.

This selective breeding has resulted in Cannabis with higher THC and lower levels of Cannabinoids like CBS, though the plant actually has hundreds of different compounds that affect humans.

Thc is what screws ur head up and this is what 'recreational', young broke people generally want as these guys just want to get maximally fucked up for as cheap as possible. Thus to maximise short term commercial success most varieties of cannabis out there are of this form.

I advise people to stay away from Skunk and keep to weed and other more traditional forms of Sativa or ideally Indica, which is known as the medicinal of cannabis varieties.

I have noticed this type of cannabis tends to have a darker colour and more earthy and less pungent aroma.

Personally, I stay away from 'Skunk', which is really the poor mans weed, high potency and low quality. It is cheaper hence people use it, as the same amount goes further, but it is a different high caused by accelerated selective breeding.

I recently bought some good Strawberry Kush from the dark web. £25 for 3.5g I was smoking a bit everyday for over two weeks. I didn't feel any negative effects at all just a relaxing high when on it. Just ordered some morrocan hash, hopefully it will arrive soon and I Will be good for a couple more weeks.
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When you get older, you learn that real happiness comes internally, not externally!

You can't get shit done in life if you are high everyday!
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