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The inexorable decline of American cities
We have a Clown World thread that highlights worldwide insanity. We can also have a thread that shows the decline in American cities via crime, shootings/stabbings, drug use, traffic, infrastructure collapse, and an overall decreasing standard of living.

In San Francisco, car robbery is a major issue. The politicians have reduced penalties for such crimes, which means criminals can rob with impunity.


Homeless man in blue shirt in Austin reveals what those electric scooters are capable of.


If you have a story to tell about a major US city and how it has changed over the past few years, post here.

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RE: The inexorable decline of American cities
Everyone in my hometown is fatter and sicker
However I don't believe the phenomenon to be limited to my town

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Denver has a lot of gays and lesbians, but otherwise crime is low, and the economy is strong. There are a lot of good bars, restaurants, and attractions like sports, concerts, theatre, museums, parks, festivals, etc.
I will say that rent is very high, but there are a lot of nice apartments. Traffic is not as bad as other cities I've known. Parking is expensive downtown, but no problem elsewhere.
It's still clown world here, but way better than the kinds of problems in places like SF or LA.

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RE: The inexorable decline of American cities
I can say NYC has none of these kinds of problems with crime or (rampant) homelessness. It is also prohibitively expensive for most and a true police state. It is only in the last few years that unconstitutional random search and seizures were outlawed. I personally have been arrested more than once, and forced to spend 12+ hours in detention for incredibly minor infractions that would be overlooked or at most produce a modest fine in most other US cities.
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(10-11-2019 04:41 AM)Jeans Wrote:  I can say NYC has none of these kinds of problems with crime or (rampant) homelessness. It is also prohibitively expensive for most and a true police state. It is only in the last few years that unconstitutional random search and seizures were outlawed. I personally have been arrested more than once, and forced to spend 12+ hours in detention for incredibly minor infractions that would be overlooked or at most produce a modest fine in most other US cities.

Do you think the lower (statistically) levels of crime and homelessness are owed to the (previous?) police state-like culture? Do you think with the ban on stop and frisk, etc. will result in NYC moving in the direction of other major cities?
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RE: The inexorable decline of American cities
NYC has declined so far that it's barely recognizable from when I grew up there. All of the middle class locals - who were born, raised, and continued to live in their neighborhood - have been forced out by astronomical, artificial rent increases. Apple-loving yuppies have since replaced them, raising the price of everything substantially, while the quality of goods and services has either stayed the same or gone down. Because we own property, we held our ground, but even so, our quality of life tok a hit as the city around us showed signs of crumbling.

Crumbling how? Culturally and quite literally - the buildings and streets are actually falling apart, with potholes abound in major roads/intersections. The air is terrible, even borderline unbreathable. Many cases of asbestos have arisen in long-term NY residents. And the amount of new homeless people I've seen around the city is nothing short of shocking. They basically occupy any vacant space in the warm months, and migrate down into the subway cars when it starts to get cold. The increase in homeless people is probably one of the biggest indicators of a city in decline. SF and Seattle are a few other shining examples of this troubling trend.

The last thing worth mentioning is the rampant alcoholism/depression among NYCs inhabitants. I remember seeing smiling faces growing up, and being part of the local community. Now everyone holes up at home with their $2000 iCuck devices, completely alienated from each other and the city at large. Right before I left, I remember only seeing looks of pure misery and despair on the face of morning commuters. That's when I knew I had to get the hell out - moving to a more wholesome European city was one of the best decisions I ever made.

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RE: The inexorable decline of American cities
Currently living in LA. The amount of people here is getting insane and it takes an hour to go 7 miles. Apparently 1/4 of the money of the county is going to welfare for people that shouldn’t be here in the first place. It’s hard to care about these people when they flood my country, demand changing the language from English to Spanish, and have little regard for assimilating. So now I have to look at and live with these people whom I have nothing in common and just accept that it is what it is. I’m not quite sure what to do but my white flight is kicking in I can feel it, but then again it starts here but god only knows where this ends. They’ll soon be voting themselves into Power and creating the laws we live under, all under our own dollar. White tax laws? Illegal for white women to have white babies? The possibilities are endless. Maybe the Mexicans and blacks will start to kill each other before then who knows.
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I've had two property crimes committed against me in the past two years, here in Calgary, Albeta.

First, an immigrant my ex-roomate was (idiotically) trying to help out, broke in to my house and stole his dog, and some minor items. The police refused to file a report because there was no proof of a break-in. Said immigrant had earlier assaulted my roommate, and put him in the hospital, with possible brain damage (hard to tell, because he wasn't too bright to begin with).

Second, had my car broken into. They stole my first aid kit (military pattern on it, I think they thought it was a weapon), and a really crummy jack knife. Broke my cup holder. Didn't bother reporting this one.

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RE: The inexorable decline of American cities
Western civilization is declining. You see this same stuff in rural areas but they just have less media. Petty crime, drug addiction, homeless, deviance. Mass immigration of shit holies has accelerated this trend.

The whole point of the forced immigration is to destroy the US. If the US was the last decent, free country and it was succeeding, then it would be an example for others to emulate.
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(10-11-2019 06:59 AM)JiggyLordJr Wrote:  NYC has declined so far that it's barely recognizable from when I grew up there. All of the middle class locals - who were born, raised, and continued to live in their neighborhood - have been forced out by astronomical, artificial rent increases.

What is artificial about them? And what neighborhoods are you speaking of? Manhattan has been gentrified and expensive since the early 90's. You may not be old enough to remember this, but before that a lot of it was a shithole. Crime was rampant and you couldn't drive in or out of the city without being harassed by guys with dirty rags purporting to clean you windshield, but really just shaking you down for a dollar (the windshield was dirtier after they were done). SO, I'm guessing you're talking about Queens? Brooklyn?

(10-11-2019 06:59 AM)JiggyLordJr Wrote:  our quality of life tok a hit as the city around us showed signs of crumbling. Crumbling how? Culturally and quite literally - the buildings and streets are actually falling apart, with potholes abound in major roads/intersections. The air is terrible, even borderline unbreathable.
Ummmm....i've lived here the better part of 50 years, and would say the exact opposite has happened. With all the new construction, what exactly is "crumbling". It is, admittedly, much more expensive. But there are nicer (and more affordable) places to live in NJ, Long Island, and Westchester.

(10-11-2019 06:59 AM)JiggyLordJr Wrote:  And the amount of new homeless people I've seen around the city is nothing short of shocking....SF and Seattle are a few other shining examples of this troubling trend.

Homeless under DiBlasio is higher than under Bloomberg, when it was virtually non-existent. But it is a FRACTION of what it was in the 70's and 80's, and NO WHERE NEAR what they have in San Francisco. Not in Manhattan, anyway ...what NYC neighborhood are you speaking of??
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NYPD: Homeless Man Facing Charges After Randomly Attacking 6-Year-Old Boy In Queens

https://newyork.cbslocal.com/2019/10/11/...eless-man/

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Just an info, I often have trouble seeing links, twitter videos etc. It just shows up blank, this thread is another example. Surely does not affect only me!

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(10-11-2019 09:54 AM)wsquared Wrote:  Apparently 1/4 of the money of the county is going to welfare for people that shouldn’t be here in the first place. It’s hard to care about these people when they flood my country, demand changing the language from English to Spanish, and have little regard for assimilating. So now I have to look at and live with these people whom I have nothing in common and just accept that it is what it is. I’m not quite sure what to do but my white flight is kicking in I can feel it

There are some small pockets left in LA where you can live relatively free of the invasion. Since I left LA, the rent in these areas is up 2-3 times what it was. It's crazy to imagine how nice the city would be without all the illegals.
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The biggest problem I've noticed in large cities is the insane ideology of the people living in them, and how that ideology is making them miserable. The unfortunate thing is most of them are too far gone and brainwashed to change their mindset, or realize they're voting for their own destruction.

I live in Seattle, and it's a shame to see what it's turned into. Socialists, rainbow flags everywhere, bums, people addicted to tech, crime, drugs and filth everywhere. You can tell it used to be normal here, but now it's like a freak show and well past the point of no return. You can see the misery in everyone's eyes too.

I'm from Chicago, which sucks ass too, but the West Coast is ground zero of degeneracy and these stupid Californians are spreading it all over. I stopped in Denver before Seattle. It wasn't as bad, but it will get there.
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(10-11-2019 10:30 AM)DogLover Wrote:  
(10-11-2019 06:59 AM)JiggyLordJr Wrote:  NYC has declined so far that it's barely recognizable from when I grew up there. All of the middle class locals - who were born, raised, and continued to live in their neighborhood - have been forced out by astronomical, artificial rent increases.

What is artificial about them? And what neighborhoods are you speaking of? Manhattan has been gentrified and expensive since the early 90's. You may not be old enough to remember this, but before that a lot of it was a shithole. Crime was rampant and you couldn't drive in or out of the city without being harassed by guys with dirty rags purporting to clean you windshield, but really just shaking you down for a dollar (the windshield was dirtier after they were done). SO, I'm guessing you're talking about Queens? Brooklyn?

(10-11-2019 06:59 AM)JiggyLordJr Wrote:  our quality of life tok a hit as the city around us showed signs of crumbling. Crumbling how? Culturally and quite literally - the buildings and streets are actually falling apart, with potholes abound in major roads/intersections. The air is terrible, even borderline unbreathable.
Ummmm....i've lived here the better part of 50 years, and would say the exact opposite has happened. With all the new construction, what exactly is "crumbling". It is, admittedly, much more expensive. But there are nicer (and more affordable) places to live in NJ, Long Island, and Westchester.

(10-11-2019 06:59 AM)JiggyLordJr Wrote:  And the amount of new homeless people I've seen around the city is nothing short of shocking....SF and Seattle are a few other shining examples of this troubling trend.

Homeless under DiBlasio is higher than under Bloomberg, when it was virtually non-existent. But it is a FRACTION of what it was in the 70's and 80's, and NO WHERE NEAR what they have in San Francisco. Not in Manhattan, anyway ...what NYC neighborhood are you speaking of??

I was going to add a similar perspective. I think we are just seeing things change.

NYC was the 'detroit' of america through the 80s. Nashville was pretty terrible. Detroit was losing jobs, but still nice, so was Flint, Gary, Milwaukee, upper minnesota, southern Wisconsin.

Fast forward 40 years. Those midwest areas did not improve and are crime ridden. NYC did experience renewal.

Its my opinion that Detroit and Milwaukee are on the verge of renewal along with other midwest cities. In 15 years they will be the "austin TX and asheville NC" kind of places that hipsters move to and then overprice and then wreck.

40-50 years from now, unless America collapses or has a civil war San Francisco and LA will have hipster types 'rediscovering' them again.

When I was a teenager I listened to a talk by some economist or urban planner and he talked about cycles of cities that go from establishment, to industrialization, to economic downtown, to crime infested, to 'hipster cool', to bustling again, to be left again when everyone wants to be there and the prices become too high relative to other parts of the country.

What I think is different this time around is the insane 'head in the sand'/self hatred that liberals in the declining cities currently have. They will put themselves right in the line of fire/conflict with the decline whereas previous generations were smart enough to engage in 'white flight'

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Trump has been deporting illegals who have any kind of police record. In order to protect the illegal aliens from deportation, a lot of these left-wing sanctuary cities are decriminalizing or not enforcing certain crimes, which they would otherwise lead to the aliens being arrested (“disproportionally impacting persons of color”)... Hence the criminals can act with some impunity.

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(10-11-2019 10:42 AM)LEMONed IScream Wrote:  Just an info, I often have trouble seeing links, twitter videos etc. It just shows up blank, this thread is another example. Surely does not affect only me!

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(10-11-2019 09:54 AM)wsquared Wrote:  Currently living in LA. The amount of people here is getting insane and it takes an hour to go 7 miles. Apparently 1/4 of the money of the county is going to welfare for people that shouldn’t be here in the first place. It’s hard to care about these people when they flood my country, demand changing the language from English to Spanish, and have little regard for assimilating. So now I have to look at and live with these people whom I have nothing in common and just accept that it is what it is. I’m not quite sure what to do but my white flight is kicking in I can feel it, but then again it starts here but god only knows where this ends. They’ll soon be voting themselves into Power and creating the laws we live under, all under our own dollar. White tax laws? Illegal for white women to have white babies? The possibilities are endless. Maybe the Mexicans and blacks will start to kill each other before then who knows.
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“The sanctuary county of Los Angeles draws foreigners who enter the United States illegally and now has the largest concentration of any county ​in the nation, according to a study from the Migration Policy Institute. ​Illegal aliens in the county are allowed to receive welfare and food stamp benefits.”

One thing that's never talked about is how hospitals are overburdened with these illegals who get free medical care.

Imagine going into the emergency room and having to wait to see a doctor because you have a bunch of illegals who are in line before you.

So not only do you have to wait behind them, you get hit with a huge bill while your taxes pay for theirs.
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On the medical issue, there are thousands of Americans who live in Mexico who have low incomes or are retired. They aren't eligible for California Medi-cal even though they are American citizens, because they aren't resident in California. So if you are an illegal resident in California, you get free medical care, but an American citizen living in Mexico because he can't afford San Diego isn't eligible. But where are people living who come into the US illegally when normal citizens can't afford to live there?

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Funniest (saddest) part of this video was that Inside Edition was doing a story on this, their equipment got stolen from their van.




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(10-11-2019 01:06 PM)Sherman Wrote:   But where are people living who come into the US illegally when normal citizens can't afford to live there?

They are living in places where other illegals have gained housing. Section 8, Private landlords and such. I currently lease from a private owner landlord. They rent indiscriminately to illegals.

Mine didn't lease to them for years. Now? She does. I moved from Phoenix to a very nice suburb(still with a private landlord), as a brown guy fed up with illegals' bullshit(brown flight?) and they STILL manage to be able to live in my neighborhood and now as my neighbors. It boggles my mind they can afford these suburbs, big shiny wheeled lardass SUV'S, new phones. It's insane.

Society of St. Vincent de Paul even pays HALF of illegals' rent sometimes. I know this because my boss has rental properties galore and does not shy away from renting to illegals. I've seen countless checks come in from these "charities" to pay their rent. The illegals don't even have to show up to pay their rent at our place of business!
Arrogant non-assimilating assholes. I purposely and continually talk to those who don't speak english IN english. The fuck, I'm not going to be made to feel like a foreigner in my own fucking country.

I doubt it. Remember that your lower level, millenial leftist isn't good at critical thinking. They're largely like trained dogs who emote in response to programmed cues like the word "racism" and "socialism". Easy_C

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(10-11-2019 11:19 AM)Dr. Howard Wrote:  40-50 years from now, unless America collapses or has a civil war San Francisco and LA will have hipster types 'rediscovering' them again.

When I was a teenager I listened to a talk by some economist or urban planner and he talked about cycles of cities that go from establishment, to industrialization, to economic downtown, to crime infested, to 'hipster cool', to bustling again, to be left again when everyone wants to be there and the prices become too high relative to other parts of the country.

San Francisco has already gone through the cycle of getting rediscovered by hipsters during the post 2008 tech boom. The city is now one of the most expensive in the world.

SF and the surrounding areas have painted themselves into a corner: there isn't enough housing for all the new jobs being created there. The homeowners block new construction. Whether this was originally to preserve the character of their neighborhoods or to keep prices up, the result is that more recent homebuyers who bought basic single family homes at over $1 million now have incentive to join the original homeowners in opposing further development.

Add to this the spread out geography of the SF Bay Area and the lack of proper public transportation. Even if new housing were built around the bay, there isn't the public transportation infrastructure to support it. Traffic will get worse if the tech industry continues to boom. And with such high costs for both land and labor, I don't expect that the bay area will ever build sufficient public transit to mitigate the traffic.

On top of that, with the growing numbers of homeless in areas around the bay, homeowners don't want better transportation because it will bring the riff raff into their neighborhoods.

The homelessness, high cost of housing, lack of development, and lack of public transportation all perpetuate one another in a convoluted vicious cycle. On its current path, the SF Bay area epitomizes California's transformation into a third world country where there is only rich (homeowners, wealthy) and poor (immigrants, homeless)

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RE: The inexorable decline of American cities
Can confirm about Chicago. Have family that live there, go during the summertime to visit and check out the many street fests ,avoid the taste like the plague, it's not the fun bustling tongue adventure it was in the 80s and 90s. Some friends I know on CPD say during the heat of summer there can be up to 30 murders a night, most of which the shite news like CNN or FOX or ABC will never report. They will never report all the blacks killing each other but its life for these people day in, day out. If you are white and in the wrong place you will get shot or run over, happened to my friends cousin, the guy was a burnout and a big of a tard, who went to the west side to sell drugs and he almost had to have his leg amputated from a hit and run.

It's hard to say this without sounding biased, but uncontrolled crime committed exclusively by blacks or feral indigenous types from either several generations of welfare breeding / no-father no-work -ethic, or the unknown mystery meat mixture from south of the border, enabled by their liberal white malefactors, with special encouragement, are the reasons all large American cities go to shit. There is no other reason why these cities suck. Its a spectrum of how much control the leftists have over the municipalities and what constitutes criminal code. On the lowest end of the spectrum, LA and SF exist as a near free-for-all for these opportunistic savages being funneled into attacking Euro-America. People get so irritated when I bring this up but "minorities" (which really are majorities if you consider the entire world) are being used as biological weapons in the war of one white people (allegedly) vs another, the home keepers, the traditionalists, the ones who keep their identity. I can't really say which cities are at the opposite end of the spectrum, because it would seem that rogue libtard elements of government programs like immigrant relocation seem to strategically place hostile immigrants in the most unlikely and majority white cities and towns ever (see pirates in Minneapolis).

If you are black, the liberal white expect you to ignore your own roots and thousands of years of history (which may be bereft of innovation, but not of culture and warriors) and opt to take the weak way out by basing your existence off of muh slavery and muh reparations because it will continually weaken you and their enemy, the heritage whites, at the same time. The thought of a free black nation that doesn't require liberal whites helping them or jews secretly steering the wheel scares the libtards almost as much as a white nation without any kin traitors and sellouts conspiring to destroy it.

It's a race to the bottom to destroy all, first the heritage whites, then all the useful idiots they send to kill their culture in the first place. Starting in the big cities, the cosmopolition root of evil per se, then seeping its way into smaller cities, towns, communities, neighborhoods, homes, etc. The only thing different between here and the USSR is the demographics, the strategy is the same, so the means to that end is all that they are tweaking.

You can't cheat nature.
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RE: The inexorable decline of American cities
(10-10-2019 10:34 PM)Cr33pin Wrote:  Everyone in my hometown is fatter and sicker
However I don't believe the phenomenon to be limited to my town

Bad food and drink. Bad lifestyle.
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