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RE: Should dogs be kept as Pets?
Not in apartments. I live in a 750 sqft 1 bedroom, and the unit next to me I am assuming is roughly the same size, the lady has two dogs and they bark all the time. Very annoying and I feel sad for those dogs kept in this tiny place. Inhumane.

Edit: Oh yeah the solution to the barking problem at 6 am? The lady next door told me she would put heavy blankets over their crates when she leaves in the morning early(School teacher) to calm them down and muffle any barking. It works for the most part but man, I would hate to be a dog stuck in a crate all day with a heavy blanket over it.
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RE: Should dogs be kept as Pets?
A friend of mine had the perfect system for interacting with dogs. He volunteered at The Seeing Eye in Morristown, NJ (the original school for seeing eye dogs) by taking out the dogs that failed training and were awaiting adoption. The guy would come home with 5+ numbers a day dropping game in the town square telling girls he was volunteering to walk retarded dogs.

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RE: Should dogs be kept as Pets?
I was reading Lives by Plutarch and this paragraph fit quite well with the topic at hand.

"Cæsar once, seeing some wealthy strangers at Rome, carrying up and down with them in their arms and bosoms young puppy-dogs and monkeys, embracing and making much of them, took occasion not unnaturally to ask whether the women in their country were not used to bear children; by that prince-like reprimand gravely reflecting upon persons who spend and lavish upon brute beasts that affection and kindness which nature has implanted in us to be bestowed on those of our own kind. With like reason may we blame those who misuse that love of inquiry and observation which nature has implanted in our souls, by expending it on objects unworthy of the attention either of their eyes or their ears, while they disregard such as are excellent in themselves, and would do them good."

The ancients knew what's up.

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RE: Should dogs be kept as Pets?
Felix88 just won the forum today.

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RE: Should dogs be kept as Pets?
(10-20-2019 06:25 PM)Felix88 Wrote:  I was reading Lives by Plutarch and this paragraph fit quite well with the topic at hand.

"Cæsar once, seeing some wealthy strangers at Rome, carrying up and down with them in their arms and bosoms young puppy-dogs and monkeys, embracing and making much of them, took occasion not unnaturally to ask whether the women in their country were not used to bear children; by that prince-like reprimand gravely reflecting upon persons who spend and lavish upon brute beasts that affection and kindness which nature has implanted in us to be bestowed on those of our own kind. With like reason may we blame those who misuse that love of inquiry and observation which nature has implanted in our souls, by expending it on objects unworthy of the attention either of their eyes or their ears, while they disregard such as are excellent in themselves, and would do them good."

The ancients knew what's up.

Makes sense that a guy who can't appreciate the loyal company of a dog would eventually get stabbed to death by some of his friends.
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RE: Should dogs be kept as Pets?
A lot of people got mauled to death by dogs last year.

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RE: Should dogs be kept as Pets?
Sure. Lots of people (many more) died in a car accident last year, too.
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RE: Should dogs be kept as Pets?
You are being overly emotional over an animal.

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RE: Should dogs be kept as Pets?
(10-20-2019 11:46 PM)Felix88 Wrote:  A lot of people got mauled to death by dogs last year.

70%+ of those due to the infatuation of Mestizos with pitbulls and other kinds of dogs which are hard to deal with (not impossible, but most people are legions away from Casear Milan).

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If I looked at stats like that I would order mandatory training and high high insurance premiums for those owners. Anyone who has had strong aggressive breeds or has had experience with them like I did, then you know that they are not your normal pets, but must be treated very differently and far more careful than your average mutt that you can let run around freely.
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RE: Should dogs be kept as Pets?
(10-20-2019 06:25 PM)Felix88 Wrote:  The ancients knew what's up.

Nah, dogs are great in moderation and in the right environment, with the right owners.

Go back just a bit further...The REAL ancients knew what's up:

   


But I do see your point about modern dog owners.

   
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RE: Should dogs be kept as Pets?
(10-19-2019 12:48 PM)Zenta Wrote:  Not in apartments. I live in a 750 sqft 1 bedroom, and the unit next to me I am assuming is roughly the same size, the lady has two dogs and they bark all the time. Very annoying and I feel sad for those dogs kept in this tiny place. Inhumane.

Edit: Oh yeah the solution to the barking problem at 6 am? The lady next door told me she would put heavy blankets over their crates when she leaves in the morning early(School teacher) to calm them down and muffle any barking. It works for the most part but man, I would hate to be a dog stuck in a crate all day with a heavy blanket over it.

I live in 750ish sqft. Working from home helps a lot. Walk the pup 3-4x a day and play fetch. She sleeps for like 2-3 hours at a time after all the exercise.
10-25-2019 10:23 AM
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RE: Should dogs be kept as Pets?
I think Dogs should be kept as pets as long as they feel apart of a pack. What I mean by apart of the pack is having a role, such as a hunting dog, guard dog, or some sort of protector/aggressor. Having a sedentary dog is torture. Hell even cats should be left to hunt for most of their food to help keep the house pest free.
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RE: Should dogs be kept as Pets?
I wouldn't go as far as some in this thread, but I absolutely think apartments should ban dogs. I've had plenty of bad experiences dealing with other peoples' big dumb angry unhappy apartment dogs.

They're fine as family pets and living in places where they have enough room to function as nature intended.
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RE: Should dogs be kept as Pets?
(10-21-2019 02:56 AM)Felix88 Wrote:  You are being overly emotional over an animal.

I was making a joke. Obviously Caesar didn't get stabbed because he failed to keep a lapdog. Lighten up.
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RE: Should dogs be kept as Pets?
I think fish are underrated. An aquarium can be as simple or complex as you wish, cheap or expensive as you wish. No need for daily walks or obedience training. The aquarium can be a calming meditative piece adding a touch of nature to your home. (Especially important in cities.) There are even aquascaping competitions.

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RE: Should dogs be kept as Pets?
And an Aquarium doesn't bark through my wall.
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RE: Should dogs be kept as Pets?
There's a bigger issue than barking at hand - The insane cultural trend of bringing dogs into restaurants, grocery stores, and letting them run loose even in parks not designed for dogs. The foundation of this deleterious trend is that people are (wrongly) treating pets like people.

I used to love dogs before they were shitting in aisle 6 of Whole Foods while their yoga pant wearing, barren-wombed dog-thot-'mom' shops for kale. I used to love dogs before they were let leash-less on unsuspecting innocents in public parks. I used to love dogs before any and every public grassy area became a potential drop zone for dog shit. I also used to love dogs before I saw way too many girls basically dry hump/make out with them in ig pictures and dating profiles.

America is at peak dog, the market is over-saturated, and the owners are burning the franchise to the ground. Dog ownership is the new Star Wars/Terminator franchise. What once could do no wrong is now a completely desperate, unoriginal mess indicative of a larger societal sickness. The first dogs were good. Now they suck because most of their owners suck.

Drop the birth rate low enough and give them enough time and money, and women transfer their natural maternal instincts onto animals. Then the nu-males go along for the ride.

Elevating lower life forms to human-status is weird and unholy, even for a non-religious guy like me.
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(10-21-2019 02:44 AM)TooFineAPoint Wrote:  Sure. Lots of people (many more) died in a car accident last year, too.

A lot of dogs get hit by cars.

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RE: Should dogs be kept as Pets?
Spoke to a Vegan today. He quickly admitted he is against pet ownership too. I told him I'd expect and support Vegan activism over pet ownership, if not the actual food thing.
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RE: Should dogs be kept as Pets?
(10-27-2019 08:42 PM)Kona Wrote:  
(10-21-2019 02:44 AM)TooFineAPoint Wrote:  Sure. Lots of people (many more) died in a car accident last year, too.

A lot of dogs get hit by cars.

Aloha!

I like dogs but don't believe they should be driving cars.
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RE: Should dogs be kept as Pets?
(10-27-2019 07:43 PM)Alpone Wrote:  There's a bigger issue than barking at hand - The insane cultural trend of bringing dogs into restaurants, grocery stores, and letting them run loose even in parks not designed for dogs. The foundation of this deleterious trend is that people are (wrongly) treating pets like people.

I used to love dogs before they were shitting in aisle 6 of Whole Foods while their yoga pant wearing, barren-wombed dog-thot-'mom' shops for kale. I used to love dogs before they were let leash-less on unsuspecting innocents in public parks. I used to love dogs before any and every public grassy area became a potential drop zone for dog shit. I also used to love dogs before I saw way too many girls basically dry hump/make out with them in ig pictures and dating profiles.

America is at peak dog, the market is over-saturated, and the owners are burning the franchise to the ground. Dog ownership is the new Star Wars/Terminator franchise. What once could do no wrong is now a completely desperate, unoriginal mess indicative of a larger societal sickness. The first dogs were good. Now they suck because most of their owners suck.

Drop the birth rate low enough and give them enough time and money, and women transfer their natural maternal instincts onto animals. Then the nu-males go along for the ride.

Elevating lower life forms to human-status is weird and unholy, even for a non-religious guy like me.

This succinctly sums up the exact reason why I detest dogs and pretty much every kind of pet. Dogs, especially for women and soy men, are seen as accessories, instead of living things that require maintenance. They are used, poorly, to fill a void, much like some use alcohol and drugs. The term "fur baby", which I hear used far too often, is just deranged.

Cases in point: Dogs left after Dakota Pipeline Protest

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RE: Should dogs be kept as Pets?
Some of you guys sound like the opposite end of the extreme spectrum when it comes to animals.

One end you have people who act like their dogs are babies and then the other end you got people that hate all dogs because their owners don't treat them like dogs.
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(10-27-2019 11:10 PM)worldwidetraveler Wrote:  
(10-27-2019 08:42 PM)Kona Wrote:  
(10-21-2019 02:44 AM)TooFineAPoint Wrote:  Sure. Lots of people (many more) died in a car accident last year, too.

A lot of dogs get hit by cars.

Aloha!

I like dogs but don't believe they should be driving cars.

They have enough on their hands what with the poker.
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(10-27-2019 11:38 PM)worldwidetraveler Wrote:  Some of you guys sound like the opposite end of the extreme spectrum when it comes to animals.

One end you have people who act like their dogs are babies and then the other end you got people that hate all dogs because their owners don't treat them like dogs.

If I lived outside of a city where dogs and other domesticated & companion animals have actual use, it'd be a completely different story. However, I live in the city and get to experience women (and some men) explaining how their dog is gluten free, has anxiety or some other mental illness and needs medication or special treatment and considerations. Western society has coddled us so much that not only our children have a plethora of made up illnesses, but now so do our pets.
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(10-28-2019 11:57 AM)DKora Koloth Wrote:  If I lived outside of a city where dogs and other domesticated & companion animals have actual use, it'd be a completely different story. However, I live in the city and get to experience women (and some men) explaining how their dog is gluten free, has anxiety or some other mental illness and needs medication or special treatment and considerations. Western society has coddled us so much that not only our children have a plethora of made up illnesses, but now so do our pets.

Maybe it is better for those types of people to have dogs or cats than screwing up more children.
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