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(10-19-2019 01:16 AM)nek Wrote:  To Eban's and Simeon's points...

I think your assessment is right but where do you go? There are no New Worlds or frontier lands. Technology has been a complete game changer. Off the grid is harder and harder each day. Plus, I'd personally not want to go live in isolation, I'd want to be around people. Are there any countries to go to that won't simply get steamrolled by larger powers that be?

This is a question that goes through my mind a lot.

Where can I go to raise a family and live life in a traditional wholesome manner and be mostly unaffected by the downfall of greater society?

The problem is that there isn't a universal answer. No place is perfect and no plan is absolutely bulletproof. And people dont want to give away what they feel will be their future safe zone.

The best coarse of action is going to be different for everyone based on race, wealth, skills, goals and expectations, etc.

But it's very obvious where not to settle down if you want to avoid peak clown world, just being away from those places is a good start.
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I should add that even in this corner of the world they've seen fit to import some Africans straight from various conflict zones. They hang around on the streets and some are criminals. Pretty crazy. But the numbers are small.

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(10-19-2019 12:12 AM)SomeOneSomeWhere Wrote:  
(10-18-2019 04:10 PM)66Scorpio Wrote:  My wife is Filipina. The Elder of her village was assassinated by a nefarious group.

I am ex-military. There is no question about choosing sides.

tard the side should be yours. 3rd people gonna 3rd world people. Non stop power struggles are the norm in 3rd world countries and they aren't shy about murdering people. Never project western thinking onto 3rd world people. They are ruled by emotions and not logic.

Foreigners interferring in 3rd world matters sounds like an easy death. Their version of smart is being a cunning back stabbing murderer over petty stuff instead of building spaceships and flying to the moon.

I half-joke with my wife that we should retire to her village and then I will run for mayor. I would have to do it between November and February when blizzards are hitting Canada but PH has its dry season, and maybe my army buddies want a "working vacation".

"Democracy", such as it is, is flawed from the word go if the populace is sufficiently mind-fucked. Palestine is the textbook example.
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(10-19-2019 02:12 AM)aeroektar Wrote:  
(10-19-2019 01:16 AM)nek Wrote:  To Eban's and Simeon's points...

I think your assessment is right but where do you go? There are no New Worlds or frontier lands. Technology has been a complete game changer. Off the grid is harder and harder each day. Plus, I'd personally not want to go live in isolation, I'd want to be around people. Are there any countries to go to that won't simply get steamrolled by larger powers that be?

This is a question that goes through my mind a lot.

Where can I go to raise a family and live life in a traditional wholesome manner and be mostly unaffected by the downfall of greater society?

The problem is that there isn't a universal answer. No place is perfect and no plan is absolutely bulletproof. And people dont want to give away what they feel will be their future safe zone.

The best coarse of action is going to be different for everyone based on race, wealth, skills, goals and expectations, etc.

But it's very obvious where not to settle down if you want to avoid peak clown world, just being away from those places is a good start.

There is no total extraction possible. You can do your best to convince your kids of your values and explain them where the mass media is dishing out constant propaganda - also in academia. Whether they believe you is another cookie and it will depend on a few factors - some being out of your control.

But in the grand scheme of things it's good if your society isn't too crazy and especially too violent - mental safety comes second.
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(10-19-2019 12:25 AM)SomeOneSomeWhere Wrote:  
(10-19-2019 12:14 AM)RIslander Wrote:  Become a cop in a conservative town. In the Northeast you can easily start at 65k plus overtime. The job is still held in high regard in most New England towns.

Globohomo is being pushed top down onto law enforcement in western countries and actively used against straight white males and their familes.

People refusing to partake and relying on self defense in the coming anarchy sounds like a better strategy than being on the wrong side of things.

Being held in high regard doesn't mean squat in the age of #metoo and a system weaponized against straight white men and their families.







You don't hear much at all about police issues in New England, US. I've interacted with cops and have many cop friends outside major urban areas and they're all cool and respected. A female cop in my town cried sexual assault and no one bought it... she was fat and obnoxious; the judge wouldn't even touch her with a 10 foot stick. Yes... Globohomo exists everywhere and yes it will get worse. As it will at the local HR Block, the DMV, and the grocery store and so on. Tough shit we gotta deal with it.

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Quote: How do you personally deal with the current situation?

I still have a roof over my head. I still have food and running water. I still live in relative safety and freedom. I still talk to pretty girls.

Men have had it far far worse throughout history. If this situation is tough to deal with, I suggest reading history books because your perspective isn't broad enough.
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You can't change the world, you can only put effort to change your future. I really like the idea of having a long-term plan, even a bad one to prepare yourself for the future. This has served me quite well, far better my best expectations.

Clown world is depressing and all you can do is try your best to avoid the pitfalls that come with it. Try to insulate yourself from risk by leveraging money. Don't hold any allegiance to your country, make sure you have an exit plan.
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I pretend I´m in the 80s.
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^That's actually really good advice. I watch 80s movies, listen to 80s music or NewRetroWave, dress and talk to women like the 80s action stars. I even have a goal of buying a Trans Am or Camaro from the 80s. My morale has gotten significantly better by avoiding most of modern culture.
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I write historical fiction, train boxing and have faith in God. If you frame all that is happening a spiritual struggle, rather than one of material & geo-pol-power, then it becomes are far more worthy one to be in.

Also I was researching my Great Grandfather's role in WWI. He was in a regiment that saw some of the worst fighting of the Western Front for four long years. He fought at the Somme, Battle of Morval, Guiddecort (which was terrible mostly hand to hand fighting with bayonets, and grenades in heavy and fortified wooden terrain) and 3rd Battle of Ypres. His batalion was decimated in a terrible battle later on, he survived that and then when in 1918 he was sent home, re-enlisted and went back out to France to be in the post war Labour Corps (dismantaling bombs, digging roads, effectively restoring civilisation to the wasteland that was north eastern France at that point).

If he can live through all that, i can live at whatever a bunch of Soy boy marxists, low IQ morons and their Clown World absurdity can throw at me.
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Blackdragon had a best of all time article on this:

https://blackdragonblog.com/2017/08/07/i...ns-part-2/
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Humans aren't supposed to conceptualize a society of over 150 people, which i think is the biggest issue of today's social media platforms, news media, and television.

Your universe (youniverse) at the end of the day contains the people that you love, your friends, your business, and the people that you serve as clients and confidants.

Your job is to find these people. Nobody else really matters.

If shit hits the fan, these are the people that will be around to help you.

I couldn't care about broader society. Most of it is comedic relief.

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(10-21-2019 12:02 PM)TigOlBitties Wrote:  ^That's actually really good advice. I watch 80s movies, listen to 80s music or NewRetroWave, dress and talk to women like the 80s action stars. I even have a goal of buying a Trans Am or Camaro from the 80s. My morale has gotten significantly better by avoiding most of modern culture.

I´m with you on the Trans Am, buddy.
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This is going to seem a bit facile and "sure friend", but reading Tolkien is a inoculation against despair, the whole of LOTR is the story of the long defeat of but in time the ultimate victory

Other suggestions: Cowboy Bebop, Terminator 1 and 2.

I concur with the poster who said use a particular genre/decade of your choice to get some escape velocity from your current situation.

I think stories of acceptances will do you a lot of good. They certainly did for me.
The reimagined Battlestar Galactica (2003-2009) is about the fall of a civilization and the overall message by the end is "live well with the time you are given no matter what era that is for however long it is". There is nothing new under the sun and you can take comfort in that. It touches on a lot of the same often raw navel gazing that we do in the forum, losing yourself, your grounding against the backdrop of the endless universe, your spirituality vs your harsh reality of journeying, getting your shit together, the full nine yards, sometimes we need stories to process what we rationally understand, but can't process on a deeper emotional level; you may in fact be drowning in non-fiction with endless numbers and doom figures, its doing YOU more harm than good. I think it LOTR and it have a lot of similarities. It's also the last tv saga, I ever cared about. Its very politically neutral, its clear they were writing and exploring the scenario in a very naturalistic way, they actually have the balls to make an argument for fascism and a damning one against democracy. It also has a heavy retro styling reminiscent of Alien and Blade Runner, Gattaca, 2001.

Miniseries pilot episode:










Getting the right story can often change you when it hits at the right time.
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Didn't really plan for it, but just kind of happened. Thank God it did to. I'm a total hermit for most of the year. I live in an old camper alone in the woods off grid for 8 months out of the year and get paid for it Banana I see other people maybe like once a week when I run to town or if I get called to pick up slack on some farming. There's nothing else I'd rather do. The only downside is the only women I ever see have 4 legs. They ain't that sexy but at least they're still good company. But if I had to look at strip malls, face tattoos, be surrounded by my fellow Americans who act like they have railroad ties stuck up there asses, see cops who look and act like wannabe Navy Seals, and hear traffic everyday again I think I would truly go mad as a hatter and end up in a room with padded walls. And then the rest of the months I take advantage of society falling apart by actively participating in it and going to South America to blow all my money, partying, and drinking copious amounts of joy juice to deal with the noise, boredom, traffic, stupid people and pollution. Not that I'm really proud of the last part, and I do feel it wearing on my mind and body, but it is what is. After a couple months of listening to South American traffic I get a bit loopy and start counting down the days till I start up again. But I always did like a good time and I'll always have a bit of the ole' enjoy the decline in me. I love loud music, women in tight denim and neon lights. I can't help it. Maybe one day I'll grow up.Undecided

For me it's worked well mentally. I'm a pretty restless man. I can't imagine not working as a man and not giving something to the world but then I can't imagine being stuck in one place living in a human circus in the shitties where you're like public enemy number 1 just for having a pair of balls swinging between your legs. So the work/play lifestyle allows me to fill that need to live a meaningful existence and then go off and give the world a big middle finger.

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(10-22-2019 12:27 AM)Spectrumwalker Wrote:  Didn't really plan for it, but just kind of happened. Thank God it did to. I'm a total hermit for most of the year. I live in an old camper alone in the woods off grid for 8 months out of the year and get paid for it Banana I see other people maybe like once a week when I run to town or if I get called to pick up slack on some farming. There's nothing else I'd rather do. The only downside is the only women I ever see have 4 legs. They ain't that sexy but at least they're still good company. But if I had to look at strip malls, face tattoos, be surrounded by my fellow Americans who act like they have railroad ties stuck up there asses, see cops who look and act like wannabe Navy Seals, and hear traffic everyday again I think I would truly go mad as a hatter and end up in a room with padded walls. And then the rest of the months I take advantage of society falling apart by actively participating in it and going to South America to blow all my money, partying, and drinking copious amounts of joy juice to deal with the noise, boredom, traffic, stupid people and pollution. Not that I'm really proud of the last part, and I do feel it wearing on my mind and body, but it is what is. After a couple months of listening to South American traffic I get a bit loopy and start counting down the days till I start up again. But I always did like a good time and I'll always have a bit of the ole' enjoy the decline in me. I love loud music, women in tight denim and neon lights. I can't help it. Maybe one day I'll grow up.Undecided

For me it's worked well mentally. I'm a pretty restless man. I can't imagine not working as a man and not giving something to the world but then I can't imagine being stuck in one place living in a human circus in the shitties where you're like public enemy number 1 just for having a pair of balls swinging between your legs. So the work/play lifestyle allows me to fill that need to live a meaningful existence and then go off and give the world a big middle finger.

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RE: How do you cope with society falling apart?
I suggest reading a couple of Black Knight's posts (which embody my beliefs on dealing with 'society is falling apart' and 'black pill' sentiments as well):

- https://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-71795...pid1911501
- https://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-71923...pid1917918

My own summary - Yes, build yourself up and find ways to enjoy life by yourself and with the friends and family in your life first.
But, beyond that - think bigger (and ask for more of yourself - set higher standards and expectations), think and commit to helping people and causes outside of just yourself where and when you see fit (that you believe are valuable), be willing to sacrifice something in order for the bigger picture to develop.
For men - this usually involves one or a combination of raising a healthy family, religion, and finding solutions to problems of different types and sizes (a lot of men thrive on having a mission, creating and problem solving after all - it's a good way to maintain your hardness and edge).
There's likely always another level of development, consciousness or fulfillment you can get to if you put in the work and keep trying different things.

Yes, day to day life is still going to be full of ups and downs, and you can't control some of the things that are going to happen to you. But, it would be a pretty good feeling getting to the end of life when it's all said and done and knowing that you pursued one or more noble missions that were pursued for the greater good. At least you tried to influence the things in your control with the cards you were dealt, instead of letting life dictate to you and becoming depressed and reactive!

@Alpone makes a good point above too - having gratitude for the basic things that you have (especially compared to others in the world right now, or throughout history) is good for the mind.
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Im preparing my mind and body, amassing resources, forging brotherhood, raising warrior sons. A great awefull war is on the horizon. I will not sit idly by as my tribes seed is wiped from this earth. Prepare gentlemen. All it takes for evil to prosper is good men to do nothing.

This is my protocol, its powerfull...

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RE: How do you cope with society falling apart?
Boy oh boy its nasty out there..

The way I see it, its like a membership into some organized crime gang. Its glamorous, and adrenaline rushing, it gives you power, influence, money and women and all of that, but the further you go into it, the nastier the actions you have to commit in order to stay afloat. You resist, you lose all the materialistic, and your sanity too.

Same as in life. Allow me to elaborate: First you need to get an education degree, which grant you a pass for the next pleasures (getting into high paying jobs, earning money, looking good, getting women, getting toys..), but this degree comes with debt and some nasty habits you pick along the way. Then in order to get that job and keep the money coming, you need to elbow yourself in and be nasty in order to solidify your position and sustain that position because surprisingly, you are hooked to a mortgage, and other toys which cost money but which society deemed to be necessary. In order to pay off that mortgage you need to get into even nastier positions/functions/people just so you can keep the money flowing to pay off the debt. As resources (jobs) dry, this model will eventually collapse.

So how to cope?
- Try to not commit yourself to a mortgage with a double digit years to pay off. Or commit to no mortgage at all.
- Try to not commit yourself to any interest rate carrying credit.
- Stay fit: not the kind of over muscled freak. No, that is a liability (considering the time, resources it takes to sustain that look). I mean stay fit the athletic functional kind of fit (any good mix of endurance, power, speed and agility).
- Limit your intake of mainstream media and stereotypes (whether its about religion or race or any of that BS baseless convictions I see floating in this forum). You need to build- not burn bridges. That foreign individual, might be of great help to you than your similar skinned homeboy.
- Invest into learning a trade. I highly recommend house building, farming, plumming/HVAC, and similar.
- Do not invest into BS overpriced degrees which you have to take credit to finance (im looking at you MBA degrees). Exception is if the company is paying for it.
- Limit your intake of the guilty pleasures (alcohol, women, party..). The time, finances, health, and efforts that shit takes from you is immense.
- Do not be dependent on the system. Be in a position where you can sustain yourself eventhough you only work part time. The rest of the time work for yourself.
- Try to build something and offer something back to society and to people.
- Build a good financial cushion with real wealth, not the kind of digital BS (bitcoin, stocks, securities etc..). Real wealth is real estate, farms, gold, machinery of assets producing, Import/export of fysical goods etc..
- Be Debt free
- Have a family and be good to your family.
- Travel: Get out of where you live and see how it is outside.
- Learn a language or two
- Always respect people. Its obvious, but many of you out there directly or indirectly insult people (whether its that beggar, or that prostitute, or or..). That bullshit line of "yeah they are lazy, they are bloodsuckers bla bla wont help you when shit goes down and you will find yourself in their position.

Finally, that nationalistic, testosterone bull crap testimonies leave it to movies and history books. What works in real world is flexibility, trade, secure resources, forging alliances. Do not take sides against the weak for the sake of enriching yourself. You will end up making enemies.
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(10-21-2019 06:40 PM)Syberpunk Wrote:  This is going to seem a bit facile and "sure friend", but reading Tolkien is a inoculation against despair, the whole of LOTR is the story of the long defeat of but in time the ultimate victory

Other suggestions: Cowboy Bebop, Terminator 1 and 2.

I concur with the poster who said use a particular genre/decade of your choice to get some escape velocity from your current situation.

I think stories of acceptances will do you a lot of good. They certainly did for me.
The reimagined Battlestar Galactica (2003-2009) is about the fall of a civilization and the overall message by the end is "live well with the time you are given no matter what era that is for however long it is".

BSG was a fantastic show that wouldn't get made today. It has a little you-go-grrrl nonsense in it, but it's minuscule compared to modern works.

Not surprisingly, there hasn't been a show since (that I know of) that even tried to be a space opera.
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(10-18-2019 12:07 PM)John Michael Kane Wrote:  Find a good church, pray, read, workout and forge alliances with other men that see the handwriting on the wall. As things head downward, your tribe will matter more than ever. Most likely we will be on this decline for quite some time. It takes spiritual, mental and physical strength to weather such a storm.

I can't second this enthusiastically enough. If you live in your head, spend all your time alone or with mindless people, and watch the news closely you'll be on the path to suicide in no time at all.

But if you do what you can to live life properly, and you seek out and build relationships with like-minded people, you can have a good life. Even while the US flushes itself down the toilet. By like-minded, I don't mean "people who read redpill blogs" but anyone who tries to do the right thing and hasn't become a slave to the zeitgeist. They're out there.
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(10-25-2019 05:50 PM)HermeticAlly Wrote:  
(10-21-2019 06:40 PM)Syberpunk Wrote:  This is going to seem a bit facile and "sure friend", but reading Tolkien is a inoculation against despair, the whole of LOTR is the story of the long defeat of but in time the ultimate victory

Other suggestions: Cowboy Bebop, Terminator 1 and 2.

I concur with the poster who said use a particular genre/decade of your choice to get some escape velocity from your current situation.

I think stories of acceptances will do you a lot of good. They certainly did for me.
The reimagined Battlestar Galactica (2003-2009) is about the fall of a civilization and the overall message by the end is "live well with the time you are given no matter what era that is for however long it is".

BSG was a fantastic show that wouldn't get made today. It has a little you-go-grrrl nonsense in it, but it's minuscule compared to modern works.

Not surprisingly, there hasn't been a show since (that I know of) that even tried to be a space opera.

I agree, Hermetic.

Not to go off too far topic in this thread but:

I have found next to impossible to get attached to a new series/story now, they all seem so small in terms of themes and their world compared to BSG, which managed to combine intimacy with incredible scope, it truly felt like an actual operatic apocalypse. I just don't buy the stakes of other stories, it's hard to go back. Fantastic charismatic characters across the board and raw always on naturalistic acting, they thoughtfully talked about religion/metaphysics and in a way I haven't seen done since, and it was never an on purpose dour anti-hero story (that is so the rigeur these days) despite plenty of darkness and dread. Even the girl power is basically bravado to stay sane (Starbuck is actually a scared little girl at heart, they defer/appeal to Adama all the time). Roslin and Adama are the mother and father of the fleet. The women were attractive unlike other modern sci-fi. If I had oneitis for a series, its this one!



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