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(10-26-2019 08:28 AM)Checkmat Wrote:  Found a pic: https://i.imgur.com/EU6ynZl.jpg

That photo can officially be classified as the exception to the rule.

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If it's my car then I will drive 100% of the time, unless I'm extremely drunk. If it's the chick's car, I usually ride shotgun. There has been instances where I drove a girl's car and crashed it, and then had to pay for damages. I won't take the risk of driving a stranger's car anymore, no matter if it's a woman's or a man's.
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If I've been drinking she drives of course, and if we're on long trips (8-9 hours or more) we'll trade off. Otherwise I drive.

Another situation that may apply to a lot of guys on this forum, if you bring a girl over from a more traditional country there's a pretty good chance she's never driven before--so of course it's OK to let her drive when she's first learning so that she can safely get herself around on her own.

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It's a bad sign. Occasionally you have men who are drunk, too tired or are extremely bad drivers - these are the exceptions. Generally men should drive.
10-28-2019 06:35 AM
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It's absolutely a sign of being in charge and leading when you as they man, take the wheel. This applies to her car as well. It's not so much about the actual act of riding shotgun in and of itself, but more as a sign of you not leading and letting her be in control, which she subtly hates. Last time I let a woman drive was an ex-gf when I was coming down with a nasty virus and I basically looked and felt like roadkill. Being drunk and long drives (say halfway around the country) are exceptions as well.

I really don't want to feel like a 8 year old having my mama drive me to the store for back to school shopping. Not to mention, I've never really met a competent driver who's a female. Sure some exist, but the fact remains that most of them flat out suck and are severely lacking in the depth perception, thinking ahead, and reaction department.

I was dating a HB 8-9 in Monterrey, Mexico about a year and a half ago and I always drove her car. From day one when she picked me at the airport, I motioned for her to ride shotgun while I took the wheel. I said you can navigate me where we got to go. She was lukewarm about this idea, and when things were going south she mentioned it bothered her while I was driving myself to the airport, the last time I was to see her:

"Why do you always have to drive my car?", she asks.

"Because I'm the man and that's what I do". I said this with a laugh as well. "If you don't like it I'm sure you'll have plenty of suitors who'd be more than happy to ride in your passenger seat. I'm not one not those".

She then goes on a tirade and proclaims how I'm not sweet, that I don't buy her flowers or chocolates, and how I'm sexist and how I think like a traditional pig-headed man in Mexico more than a modern-day gringo, etc etc. So with that, it was over.

But guess who STILL hits me up on WhatsApp a year and a half later??? "I miss you in my bed", "I wish I can kiss you again", "I was stubborn and I'm sorry, will you ever come to Monterrey again".

This is not a woman who's lacking options either.

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It's not about who is driving but who is in charge of the trip!

From experience, if I let a girl lead on a date, I won't get any pussy. If I take charge the whole time like a boss, I get pussy.

I never let my girl lead, she might suggest doing something where I'll take it under advisement. If she has been good, we might go do it together. Be the boss and treat her like a secretary that you're banging.
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10-29-2019 09:01 AM
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I think there are bigger fish to fry than who's driving, since it seems to be a very nuanced thing.

How about this?

1) You want to drive, so you drive = alpha
2) You don't care, or it's her car, so she drives = alpha
3) You fret online about who's driving and if it's beta = omega

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10-31-2019 12:16 PM
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I like driving so I always drive. I think men who let their gf/wife drive them around are kind of cucked, but whatever.

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I see both sides. Sometimes I don’t want to drive, so she can drive. But lately I’ve been doing all the driving these days because my gf, while not a “horrible” driver, speeds unnecessarily and rides hard on the brakes so it’s just not a relaxing experience. Most girls suck at driving anyway so I’d rather drive myself to preserve my own sanity.
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There is a more enervating form of cuckoldry. Millennial soy boys resting their heads on mommy/girlfriend's shoulder with their eyes closed. Sometimes they'll even rest their heads on her lap. It makes me sick every time I see it
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Years ago, I had a pastor who hated seeing a man being hauled around by a woman. You're the leader, he'd say. You drive.

That's generally what we do unless I get lazy. She has more photographic memory and I'm better at looking stuff up, so when we're travelling she often drives because it works better.

Tell you what, though.... Of the greatest generation era men I remember back in the 1970s... all of them drove. A woman simply did not cart a man around back then. Seems like a good place to get back to.
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Could be worse, i suppose.

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11-08-2019 03:15 AM
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"Who's wearing the pants?"

"Who's in the driver's seat?"

There are reasons that these euphimisms (I don't think that's the right word) are used.

Even if you "literally" aren't driving 100% of the time, the important thing is that you're in the driver's seat.

Of course if you're drunk or you're really tired or randomly just don't feel like driving is it okay to let the woman drive, but there's no reason to have her driving all the time.

Men have quicker reaction times and better hand-eye coordination in any case, so I'd prefer to be driving as a man anyway.

Beyond that, there are essentially zero women I'll date that will have more experience than me driving a car and beyond that I've driven all manner of different types of vehicles including some quite heavy or out of the ordinary ones, so by default I'm a more versatile/experienced driver so I should be the one driving.

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Those that are okay with this, are also okay with the following:

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This post bypasses an important point. No one knows why the women are driving.

Some men have vision problems. Some are on meds with "don't operate machinery" warning labels. Some are coming back from a bar or restaurant and had too much to drink.

When I was married, I had a temporary problem with my retina so my wife drove a lot then. Rather than poke fun at men in the passenger's seats, why not say: "Isn't it cool men who may be impaired have women faithful enough to chauffeur them around?" Because that might be what's happening.
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I prefer to drive most of the time, even in other peoples cars. I feel safer when I'm at the wheel.

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(11-10-2019 08:42 PM)Days of Broken Arrows Wrote:  This post bypasses an important point. No one knows why the women are driving.

Some men have vision problems. Some are on meds with "don't operate machinery" warning labels. Some are coming back from a bar or restaurant and had too much to drink.

When I was married, I had a temporary problem with my retina so my wife drove a lot then. Rather than poke fun at men in the passenger's seats, why not say: "Isn't it cool men who may be impaired have women faithful enough to chauffeur them around?" Because that might be what's happening.

Of course there are always exceptions. Some guy in this thread wrote about being driven around on the back of a scooter by a girl in Vietnam. I have been to Saigon on several occasions, and I would not drive there if you paid me.

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I think it's silly to feel like you HAVE to drive every single time but yeh you as a man should definitely be the default driver.
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(10-31-2019 12:16 PM)Geomann180 Wrote:  I think there are bigger fish to fry than who's driving, since it seems to be a very nuanced thing.

How about this?

1) You want to drive, so you drive = alpha
2) You don't care, or it's her car, so she drives = alpha
3) You fret online about who's driving and if it's beta = omega

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In an ideal world, these details would not matter. Men and women would be 100% identical in thought and action. And no small traits of yours would have any affect on her perception of you. But alas, utopia is truly nowhere. And 1,000 of these little details - Omega as they may seem - provide the framework for a relationship. Who drives the car is really just another aspect of game, be it for the PUA or married man.

As a general rule, women despise relativism in a man: i.e. who cares about this or that, etc. So it's better to choose the winning side in therse maters - the side that puts you in the driver's seat.

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(10-29-2019 09:01 AM)Lovinglife Wrote:  It's not about who is driving but who is in charge of the trip!

From experience, if I let a girl lead on a date, I won't get any pussy. If I take charge the whole time like a boss, I get pussy.

I never let my girl lead, she might suggest doing something where I'll take it under advisement. If she has been good, we might go do it together. Be the boss and treat her like a secretary that you're banging.

Correct, I don't hail an Uber and then tell to driver to get in the backseat because I'm taking the wheel.

When i worked for the state, the low man or woman on the totem pole had to drive to business meetings. If there was 3 people, the bitch had to drive, 2nd in command rode shotgun and the big boss spread his stuff out in the back and did work or phone calls to prep for the meeting we were driving to.

Donald Trump does not drive the presidential limo or fly airforce one but he sure as heck sets the destination.

beta wife driving is something like leaving the house to go to home depot and then your wife stopping at starbucks, the clothing store with a sale on, the grocery store along the way all while texting and driving.

alpha wife driving is leaving the house to go to home depot. You read the paper or double check your materials calculations on the way.

Super alpha driving is just telling your wife to go to home depot and pick up the items on your list and a case of beer but not forgetting to have her make you a sandwich before she goes.

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(10-22-2019 01:13 AM)MajorStyles Wrote:  This photo could easily represent today's married American man. I see it everywhere in the USA:

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To me, it’s just wrong. I’m the man…I drive. I'm in charge.

The car is a metaphor for life and man is (both emotionally and spiritually) in control of the relationship. When the woman drives, it indicates that the man is acquiescing his control to her. Bad! Even before I was red-pilled, I understood the importance of me driving while she rides shotgun.

What are your thoughts?

HAHA. This pic. Even worse, yesterday I saw a dude in the back seat while two females were driving him. It looked so emasculating and it did cause me to ponder about the current state of affairs here. It is a metaphor. Our country will go down the drain if millennial women get power (and they will definitely have more power than men, in total). Female voting patterns favor centralist governments, and they will gladly give over the children to the ward of the State rather than raise them themselves, because women here hate themselves, their children, man and God. The only thing they love is "the environment" and "animals." I for one refuse to marry these types. I will be single forever if need be.
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LDN always drives because he has a tradwife.
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My buddy had a hot vietnamese gf. Тhe first day she had a new a5, it was him driving it. Still remember that day because we were on the car's wifi and took a joyride over to starbucks to buy iced coffee, with the top down.

I said to myself, "this guy knows what he's doing."

Last I checked they were still in a happy, long-term monogamous relationship.
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(10-22-2019 01:13 AM)MajorStyles Wrote:  [Image: ?u=https%3A%2F%2Fmedia.gettyimages.com%2...amp;nofb=1]

What are your thoughts?

Its a Fiat 500C. I wouldn't want to be seen driving that either. Or in it at all.
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This is a throwback to 2014 when we were all arguing what the definition of an "alpha male" was.

I'd love it if my wife drove while I napped.
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