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RE: Please stop wasting your time by attempting to scare women w/ post wall non-realities
(10-24-2019 09:57 AM)ArcticTraveler Wrote:  
(10-24-2019 08:39 AM)quaker13 Wrote:  
(10-23-2019 10:44 PM)Tactician Wrote:  ...

Great sentiments!

I am currently dating a woman who by most folks' standards would be considered a 9 and by the most critical men a 7.5-8. She is 38 years old. She's breathtaking and her only drawback is her height, 6ft. A lot of men don't like statuesque women but I do, if for no other reason than to have genetic super babies(I'm 6'3).

Anyway, I'd wager she has probably lost very few suitors between 22 and 38. She simply is too far right of the bellcurve to take a meaningful hit in options. I know this forum has gone in a different direction since Roosh got saved, but let me just say that I have about 3 milfs on my roster that have seen no significant downturn in options even at 40 years old. They have incredibly tight bodies, possess a level of sophistication that young birds don't have and quite frankly they are exponentially better in the bedroom.

As a man with his shit together I've found the best strategy for dealing with attractive younger women is to have a a couple very attractive milfy women on your roster in the wake to bide time for the flakiness of younger women. It works out pretty well.

This is what I mean. Why the hell would you even bother rating a 38 year old single lady? She's too old. Now there is a difference between a married 38 year old lady and a single one. If a an married a woman in her prime and she happens to look great at 38 then props. If she is single at 38 and a guy is genuinely dating her, or "dating" then that's absolutely nothing to be proud of.

The only possible benefit is that a single lady that old would be easier to pick up.

quaker13, you can't possibly think anything about your dealings with post wall single ladies is something to be proud of do you? Men aren't proud of "dating" fatties. In that respect what makes milfs different (unless you are 65+)? You say that you are 40.

Listen I just told you my strategy with respect to dating. You are glomming on to one aspect and using that to weaken my position albeit erroneously and sophomorically. I am a 40 year old man, my preference is younger women but im not staunchly opposed to dating women my age as much as you may want to shame me for it.

I want to be respectful of Roosh's new rules so I will put a governor on the expletives I'm yearning to use. I am not a fundamentalist or evangelical Christian. On a base level I enjoy the company of feminine women. My goal is not to necessarily date with hopes of marrying and starting a family. I am dating because I enjoy dating, not out of a familial necessity. You may want to date for that purpose, but sitting around painting women who are in the post wall stages of their lives to be desperate spinsters won't get you any closer to that hot young lass you have been to scared to approach.
10-24-2019 10:55 AM
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RE: Please stop wasting your time by attempting to scare women w/ post wall non-realities
Quote:I am not a fundamentalist or evangelical Christian. On a base level I enjoy the company of feminine women. My goal is not to necessarily date with hopes of marrying and starting a family. I am dating because I enjoy dating, not out of a familial necessity. You may want to date for that purpose, but sitting around painting women who are in the post wall stages of their lives to be desperate spinsters won't get you any closer to that hot young lass you have been to scared to approach.

For a guy who isn't looking to reproduce, either because he's already done so or he just doesn't want to, what's wrong with dating women closer to your own age? Younger women are going to want marriage and kids. Plus as Graft pointed out, "The vast majority of Western men in their 40's have zero female options in their twenties." Despite what some internet Casanovas would have you think, women in their 20s are not lining up to date men in their 40s. The ones who go for that usually have daddy issues and are not great relationship material.
10-24-2019 11:02 AM
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RE: Please stop wasting your time by attempting to scare women w/ post wall non-realities
(10-24-2019 10:55 AM)quaker13 Wrote:  
(10-24-2019 09:57 AM)ArcticTraveler Wrote:  
(10-24-2019 08:39 AM)quaker13 Wrote:  
(10-23-2019 10:44 PM)Tactician Wrote:  ...

Great sentiments!

I am currently dating a woman who by most folks' standards would be considered a 9 and by the most critical men a 7.5-8. She is 38 years old. She's breathtaking and her only drawback is her height, 6ft. A lot of men don't like statuesque women but I do, if for no other reason than to have genetic super babies(I'm 6'3).

Anyway, I'd wager she has probably lost very few suitors between 22 and 38. She simply is too far right of the bellcurve to take a meaningful hit in options. I know this forum has gone in a different direction since Roosh got saved, but let me just say that I have about 3 milfs on my roster that have seen no significant downturn in options even at 40 years old. They have incredibly tight bodies, possess a level of sophistication that young birds don't have and quite frankly they are exponentially better in the bedroom.

As a man with his shit together I've found the best strategy for dealing with attractive younger women is to have a a couple very attractive milfy women on your roster in the wake to bide time for the flakiness of younger women. It works out pretty well.

This is what I mean. Why the hell would you even bother rating a 38 year old single lady? She's too old. Now there is a difference between a married 38 year old lady and a single one. If a an married a woman in her prime and she happens to look great at 38 then props. If she is single at 38 and a guy is genuinely dating her, or "dating" then that's absolutely nothing to be proud of.

The only possible benefit is that a single lady that old would be easier to pick up.

quaker13, you can't possibly think anything about your dealings with post wall single ladies is something to be proud of do you? Men aren't proud of "dating" fatties. In that respect what makes milfs different (unless you are 65+)? You say that you are 40.

Listen I just told you my strategy with respect to dating. You are glomming on to one aspect and using that to weaken my position albeit erroneously and sophomorically. I am a 40 year old man, my preference is younger women but im not staunchly opposed to dating women my age as much as you may want to shame me for it.

I want to be respectful of Roosh's new rules so I will put a governor on the expletives I'm yearning to use. I am not a fundamentalist or evangelical Christian. On a base level I enjoy the company of feminine women. My goal is not to necessarily date with hopes of marrying and starting a family. I am dating because I enjoy dating, not out of a familial necessity. You may want to date for that purpose, but sitting around painting women who are in the post wall stages of their lives to be desperate spinsters won't get you any closer to that hot young lass you have been to scared to approach.

You are or you aren't. Funny because I never said you should be ashamed. Stop thinking polarizing your thoughts. I only care about if you are proud that, and while, you are dating older ladies. Yes I am only asking you. Forget about the rest. I didn't ask if you enjoy dating older ladies.

I overall question why you like them so much and why are you encouraging others to date them using your ridiculous rational. But please, prove me wrong. The only real benefit I can imagine is that they are easier to get then women in their prime and are decent. Another might be that a man dosen't want to reproduce anymore which is an interesting angle.
10-24-2019 11:42 AM
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RE: Please stop wasting your time by attempting to scare women w/ post wall non-realities
quaker13 in my opinion sounds like a female, wanting to use “expletives” at ArcticTraveler for his anti-older women views, and how personally the user is taking the topic
10-24-2019 02:30 PM
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RE: Please stop wasting your time by attempting to scare women w/ post wall non-realities
Wtf is 'dating' ? Is it something to do with homosexuals?
10-24-2019 03:21 PM
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RE: Please stop wasting your time by attempting to scare women w/ post wall non-realities
Spending time with women and not reproducing is gay as fuck.

Don't waste your time unless you are learning.
10-24-2019 03:28 PM
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RE: Please stop wasting your time by attempting to scare women w/ post wall non-realities
Women over 35 have *dramatically* higher odds of problems during pregnancy and childbirth.That's the real issue here.

Ever known a man who has a severely handicapped child? He is in hell, every day, all day, till he dies. There is no escaping that hell.

You don't marry women based on their attractiveness, you marry women based on their ability to bear you strong healthy children. Children that you will fight and die to to feed and protect from the infinite evil of the world.

THATS why you marry young women.

Their entire existence will be wrapped up in motherhood. By marrying them, you are committing your life, yes YOUR LIFE, to protecting them as they raise those oh-so vulnerable young children. Children who you will love with every breath you take.

If you're committing your life, then they should commit theirs. It's only fair.

Therefore they should not have waited till 35. Waiting till 35 indicates: 1) they don't really want to be mothers anyway or 2) they profoundly disrespect your commitment as a man.

That's why you never, ever, ever marry a woman > 30.

As far as dating, well dating > 30 with no intent to marry is a moronic waste of life.

All the other reasons are just gibberish to distract you.
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10-24-2019 04:20 PM
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RE: Please stop wasting your time by attempting to scare women w/ post wall non-realities
The Wall is simply the point in a woman’s life when she suddenly cannot compete with herself at her peak. This is relative.

In the absolute sense, online dating has decelerated the decline in older women’s SMV. Rollo’s SMV chart doesn’t account for this despite the boundary between real life and online SMP values being very blurred now.

Don't spend all your energy on sex and all your money on women; they have destroyed kings. (Proverbs 31:3 GNB)
10-25-2019 01:29 AM
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(10-25-2019 01:29 AM)N°6 Wrote:  The Wall is simply the point in a woman’s life when she suddenly cannot compete with herself at her peak. This is relative.

The problem is, if you take the peak argument literally, you're stuck with a very small demographic.

I recently saw a girl I'd last seen two years ago. Back then (aged 21) she was an absolute angel. Unlike many girls her age, she hasn't put on weight, but you can already see the difference on her face from 21 to 23. Her cheeks are slowly starting to sag and she has bags and wrinkles around her eyes. Still attractive, but that freshness is gone. Does that mean we should consider girls over 23 post-wall? Because, let me tell you, if you compare the before and after pictures of any girl in that time lapse you will see similar changes.
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RE: Please stop wasting your time by attempting to scare women w/ post wall non-realities
Also, a 35yr old can still be hot. But it is downhill very fast from then, and by 40 they can never compete with 30yr old versions of themselves.
10-25-2019 09:44 AM
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RE: Please stop wasting your time by attempting to scare women w/ post wall non-realities
35+ Woman that is in a good shape usually has much higher chance to stay this way. It is either in their DNA, lifestyle or (most probably) both. And I am not talking only about sexual attraction here, I am talking about general health and shape. Since we are in a marriage forum here now this is something worth to consider (together with her parents shape) especially if you plan to live with that person for the rest of your life.

I met many chicks in their 20es that look nice and trim but yet drink, smoke and when you ask them what they do for their shape (sports, diet etc.) the answer is often "Uhm, nothing, it's just this way". This is "youth credit" nature gives those chicks, if you'd spool time forward and see them @35 you might be shocked and asking yourself "what happened".

I have a policy not to date women that could be my daughters and this means 30+ and I feel no lack of beautiful and sexy ladies. The only real problem is that more often then not they have children.

As of having children, everyone in my surroundings (I live in Switzerland) married and got kids after 30, most of them have 2 kids now and none of those kids has any serious health issue. Modern medicine is good. Parent-child Age difference on another hand is a issue that is hard to ignore.
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RE: Please stop wasting your time by attempting to scare women w/ post wall non-realities
Having kids after 30 is not the same as having kids after 35.

OP said that his LTR is 35 years old right now, Which means that she will most likely be 36 years old by the time she delivers her first newborn. The biological age of the women is very important, since the fetus develops out of the cells of the mother. 99% of single women above 35 I have met so far, are really not marriage material. These "girls" are single because they failed to compromise, and have ended up alone. Instead of dedicating their life towards the creation of new life, they chose to marry the academia or some corporation. I wish OP all the best, but from experiences of people close to me, it is best for the women to have kids as early as possible, since it is a tremendous strain on their bodies. I know someone that would have most likely died during childbirth, if she had been 35 years old.

As for Switzerland, if you guys are having kids so late, it does not mean that it is the right way to do it. Your country seems to also have gone the path of Sweden and Germany, believing in over educating women instead of promoting fertility. While the fertility rate is still slightly higher compared to Germany (circa 1.5 vs 1.4), it is still way below replacement rate (see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographi...tzerland). If each white family will not have 3 kids, Europe will be broke and Arab when looking at the very long term.
10-26-2019 11:27 AM
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Effects of the menopause on physical attractiveness:

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Effects of a botched anti-aging plastic surgery

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RE: Please stop wasting your time by attempting to scare women w/ post wall non-realities
(10-23-2019 09:16 AM)Eddie Winslow Wrote:  
(10-22-2019 02:03 PM)quaker13 Wrote:  The reality is yes women who have reached the "wall" will have issues conceiving, but one issue they will not have is getting a quality boyfriend or husband provided they are attractive. I don't know a single attractive 35-50 year old woman that can't get serious ltr attention from a quality male. By quality I mean a non-fat male that makes at minimum 100k a year.

I don't know where you guys live but in major coastal cities and in many of the larger cities in fly over countries a lot of the single women 35 up are in absolutely phenomenal shape. Hell one can argue that single women in that age range are in better shape than their younger counterparts depending on the city. LA, Miami and NYC are perfect examples of this.

My point is your spinning your wheels by expecting to relish in some sort of schadenfreude. These older women are eating well, exercising and getting plastic surgery; you'd have to be a fool to think there age has any significant impact on their SMV for the purposes of landing a quality male.

I agree, and I get what you are saying.

A lot of guys talk on here talk like the SMV power switch that is supposed to occur around 27-30 years old is a guarantee universally, and all men and women will experience it on an individual basis without exception.

"Every woman's SMV will start high and go down the shitter in her 30s and 40s."

"Every man has a low SMV in his teens and early 20s, but it will gradually increase and be higher than any woman of the same age after 35."

Those two statements are obviously false. Negative, loser men hold these beliefs close to their heart because it's way easier to pray for the downfall of aging women than it is to improve their own SMV over time through hard work. Gloating about female celebrities who have lost their youthful beauty like it's going to somehow improve their own value or chances Laugh

I've met plenty of salty loser males, including forum members, who definitely "hit the wall" themselves before their 25th birthday. And many, many more who never had any SMV to begin with.

TL;DR Stop concerning yourself about the SMV of women, especially those you aren't involved with (99.99999999999%). Work on yourself.

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