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Edward Snowden interview on Joe Rogan
Important Joe Rogan interview with Edward Snowden.

"Edward Snowden is an American whistleblower who copied and leaked highly classified information from the National Security Agency in 2013 when he was a Central Intelligence Agency employee and subcontractor. His new book "Permanent Record" is now available."

The government was (or still is) spying on ordinary citizens using powers accrued by Dick Cheney after 9/11. Long interview, but really informative and relevant given our current political situation.



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Joe Rogan is one of the biggest gatekeepers of information. Same goes for Alex Jones.

I don't believe that the #1 Podcast on planet earth is trying to inform me of the real situation. On the question of internet surveillance... DARPA created the internet... enough said.
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RE: Edward Snowden interview on Joe Rogan
Snowden's revelations in 2013 came before there were serious concerns about Google & Facebook surveillance. Before there was a cultural backlash against even moderate right wing people. Before social media censorship. Before Alexa, before social credit scores and before many smartphone "advances" which track every aspect of your life.

The things Snowden is speaking about are 100x more important today than they were when first revealed.

As America becomes more culturally/politically divided and big tech becomes more powerful and ideological, personal data will be used as a weapon to punish segments of the population for having certain views.

The interview is a Big Deal. Pay attention.
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RE: Edward Snowden interview on Joe Rogan
Anyone remember that the first place Snowden went to ask for asylum was Hong Kong ? He got turned down.

Eventually Putin gave him asylum in Russia.


Some people think he's not a real defector....just a high profile disinformation agent from one US spy agency, fighting other US spy agencies.
His girlfriend also raises weird red flags.
For a guy supposedly worried about privacy, he picks a pole dancer and instagram attention whore as his girlfriend ??!
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No such thing as a 'former CIA officer.'

Snowden was a CIA op to weaken the NSA. Notice how Snowden's leaks almost exclusively concern the NSA?

CIA is civilian and NSA is military for those that don't know. They have quite the rivalry.

This also explains why Snowden is a media darling (Operation Mockingbird).
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(10-23-2019 03:06 PM)Nulled Wrote:  Joe Rogan is one of the biggest gatekeepers of information. Same goes for Alex Jones.

I don't believe that the #1 Podcast on planet earth is trying to inform me of the real situation. On the question of internet surveillance... DARPA created the internet... enough said.

General rule of thumb is that you should be extremely suspicious of anyone who pushes psychedelic drug usage.

DMT doesn't exactly grow on trees and it's available for free for the same reason porn is made free.

Quote:For a guy supposedly worried about privacy, he picks a pole dancer and instagram attention whore as his girlfriend ??!

I got the feeling that she wasn't so much the "girlfriend"; more that she was a piece of ass to him. He didn't seem particularly invested in her.
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(10-23-2019 07:23 PM)Caduceus Wrote:  Anyone remember that the first place Snowden went to ask for asylum was Hong Kong ? He got turned down.

Eventually Putin gave him asylum in Russia.


Some people think he's not a real defector....just a high profile disinformation agent from one US spy agency, fighting other US spy agencies.
His girlfriend also raises weird red flags.
For a guy supposedly worried about privacy, he picks a pole dancer and instagram attention whore as his girlfriend ??!

It's just a matter of figuring out which alphabet agency he works for. Look at Julian Assange while in exile: his decline was visible. He looked like he's dying. Compare that to Snowden: he looks better than ever! He really enjoys his interviews. Doesn't seem like he's in any kind of pain.

His book floated to the top of the Amazon bestsellers, which means it didn't have any information that was damaging.

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I watched the entire thing on 1.75x speed and I barely kept awake. I consider myself a pretty boring person but this guy is actually worse than me at telling a story.

he had access to all kinds of gov networks but nothing was found about aliens. Dodgy

The only thing I found somewhat interesting is how he mentioned conspiracies are more open in government. I'm 50/50 right now whether this guy is a plant/GLOW/2x-agent feeding us misinformation.

I wish Rogan had asked him how he managed himself overseas in Russia without a job all these years. I know he released a book but that was pretty recent. I can tell he loves the attention, he looks happy.
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I remember hearing Rogan talk about how, after interviewing hundreds of samsquanch and ufo guys that his bullshit detector is unbreakable.

Well, it seems that Rogans bullshit detector is coming out accurate on this one too.
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Quote:It's just a matter of figuring out which alphabet agency he works for. Look at Julian Assange while in exile: his decline was visible. He looked like he's dying. Compare that to Snowden: he looks better than ever! He really enjoys his interviews. Doesn't seem like he's in any kind of pain.

Assange revealed secrets of politicians and other elites which hurt the globalist order of things. Snowden just revealed that the gov was spying on millions of ordinary people.
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I'm inclined to believe that Snowden's story is genuine (as told in his recently released memoirs), and that he's an earnest private citizen following his life's purpose, as opposed to some covert agent.

Just because he made it on Joe Rogan and his book got published doesn't necessarily imply that the information therein isn't dangerous to the establishment.

In a strange way, ultimately less consequential things like sex and dating topics viewed from a red pill perspective, get flagged way more aggressively than stuff that exposes wide scale governmental abuse.

Topics that trigger social warrior types are just buttons that you push on an automaton.

A topic like government surveillance of the citizenry, its ramifications, and the ethical underpinnings require a decent amount of mental computer power to process and understand in full context.

That's why guys like Thomas Sowell can publish books with impunity, and why Ayn Rand continues to be a best seller. They're too sophisticated and require too much thought to unpack. Yet they're the most stalwart antagonists of the state and of crony capitalism (vis a vis the state), whose arguments are the most thoroughly defensible.

I honestly think most people will experience only a superficial level of shock at what their government is doing because they can't extrapolate and imagine what it could morph into and what it would mean for their lives and their children.

Nor are they able to make the connection between the technologically enabled encroachments of today's government with the
authoritarian regimes of the 20th century.

I've even had conversations with otherwise intelligent people about the social credit system going on in China and their response was "oh yeah it's no big deal, if you have nothing to hide what's the problem?"

They just can't see far enough down the road to understand that it will end up somewhere between 1984 and a Brave New World.

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https://www.anonymousconservative.com/bl...-10242019/

Snowden does Joe Rogan, but not worth the three hours in my opinion. Obviously, it feels controlled. There are much bigger problems than the archiving of data streams and possibility, (likely never realized), of listening to phone calls. Snowden has to know about the bigger operation, but he is focusing people on these things instead, giving the impression of disclosure, while performing distraction from the real issues. It is a minor irritation somebody can read an email of mine from five years ago. It is far more concerning you have a secret society which is not open to any citizen to join, composed of a sort of cloister of familial bloodlines and newly arrived foreigners (Because they can’t advertise to the populace their existence or what they do because the populace would have their operation evaporated overnight. So they have to hire only their own kids, and family, and immigrants who they can deport if they go off script, and those they can blackmail, and those they find who are cool with shitting on the Constitution and harassing strangers for some faceless bureaucrat they will never meet because it works out well for them personally). It is troubling such a powerful organization is engaging in illegalities they will need to kill to keep quiet. It is even worse they will appear out of the ether if any regular citizen says anything about government or politics, because anyone not under their control is not supposed to have any say in that. Rogan likely knows. I would assume, long before he got the audience he has, either he was born into it, they got blackmail on him, or they showed up to intimidate him and he gave in. I remember video of some of his MMA buddies laughing how all their phones click as if they are bugged, even though they have cell phones, and they are being followed around.

To summarize the video, on Snowden, he is pinning the whole thing to Dick Cheney, he makes sure to stick Giuliani’s name in there as a descriptor of Cheney’s attorney (He is creating an image where Giuliani and Trump are the same thing as Dick Cheney and his counsel, who created the awful surveillance state he is describing), Obama was an innocent idealist who wanted to make things better at home, 9/11 was a big accident, he tells us conspiracy theories are not to be believed, there are no aliens or chemtrails, and NSA is the enemy. He also goes out of his way to say explicitly that the Deep State is not “a conspiracy of lizard people,” which now has me wondering if the Reptilian thing is real.

Interestingly he raises how his having worked at both CIA and NSA allowed him to see how the two different networks worked, and how to develop a system that could combine the two into one database. If I was running Cabal intel, that would have been my goal, and I would have tried to create such a system using my own agent who would have given me access. So if he was a Cabal agent, his Cabal-mission was to create a system unifying database, and turn over access to his Cabal-handlers before cashing out and trying to take NSA down so CIA could inherit it all. I found it all interesting for two reasons. One, Snowden is increasingly obvious to me as a purposeful distraction. He is purposely screaming about minor shit, like your emails being stored but probably never looked at, and as a result people don’t realize there is a house down the street, with people who know them, listening to their private conversations each night, recording spouses having sex, and feeding the data, especially anything embarrassing or blackmailable, into files they are building and adding to intermittently on everyone. Two, he is a walking Q proof. Before Q, Snowden seemed like he could have been legit. Q coming out and saying Snowden was Cabal was a big step for Q to take, but obviously knowing what I know, he is exactly right. Snowden is still part of the organization, and working to help it cover up its most problematic aspect of its operations. Q knew, and is feeding legit intel.
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If the story was fake they wouldn’t be engaged in hysteric defending like CNN claiming it was illegal to read the leaks, banning Wikileaks from the Internet, getting Assage in jail, harassing Glenn Greenwald, or the other bevy of panicked activities.

That kind of aggressive yet clumsy lash-out or the lack thereof is one major way to tell what’s real or what isn’t. For example, compare the way this was treated with some of the fishier shootings.
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(10-23-2019 10:17 PM)Roosh Wrote:  
(10-23-2019 07:23 PM)Caduceus Wrote:  Anyone remember that the first place Snowden went to ask for asylum was Hong Kong ? He got turned down.

Eventually Putin gave him asylum in Russia.


Some people think he's not a real defector....just a high profile disinformation agent from one US spy agency, fighting other US spy agencies.
His girlfriend also raises weird red flags.
For a guy supposedly worried about privacy, he picks a pole dancer and instagram attention whore as his girlfriend ??!

It's just a matter of figuring out which alphabet agency he works for. Look at Julian Assange while in exile: his decline was visible. He looked like he's dying. Compare that to Snowden: he looks better than ever! He really enjoys his interviews. Doesn't seem like he's in any kind of pain.

His book floated to the top of the Amazon bestsellers, which means it didn't have any information that was damaging.

Roosh is spot on.

This guy is a fake and part of a psyop. The mainstream media would NEVER publish anything that wasn't high level intel approved. Don't be fooled by his "victim" status. It's a lie. Speaks exactly like all the other well trained CIA agents whose jobs are to reinforce false narratives using hypnotic storytelling to fool the masses. Your phone listening to you is a JOKE - low level information they reveal to the public to MOCK you.

What's the real s**t they do that most people don't want to believe?

How about they can project voices into your skull and hypnotise you without your knowledge, then ping an activation signal to you via your device when the time comes, *cough* school shooters *cough*.

How they keep the population in low frequency states using static white noise towers.

How they clone world leaders, have secret "space" programs, have made deals with entities behind the veil. It's all out in the open if you do the research, but they know 99% of the population wont, and the few that do will find this all to hard to believe.
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Also why the hell do people still believe all this Q bullshit?

We're now a few months away from the election and literally nothing has come from anything Q-related.

I'm astounded that people put more weight on vague, cryptic, internet claims from an anonymous poster than they do on provably accurate documents.

Without wikileaks there wouldn't be a Q. The entire reason people fall for the "cabal" stuff is because of wikileaks revelations like Pizzagate.


And if you want truth it isn't going to be in all this David Icke bullshit. People like that are conmen and they repeatedly demonstrate absolutely no comprehension or truthfullness when it comes to any esoteric topic. Theories like the one stated give far, far, too much credence to human capabilities.


If you want to get a little bit warmer start looking into some hard science and how there are anamolies in the human genome that cannot be explained through evolution.


Quote:It's just a matter of figuring out which alphabet agency he works for. Look at Julian Assange while in exile: his decline was visible. He looked like he's dying. Compare that to Snowden: he looks better than ever! He really enjoys his interviews. Doesn't seem like he's in any kind of pain.

This one I think there doesn't need to be any "cabal" explanation. He's in Russia which goes a long way and there's some strong reason to believe that the current globohomo(Enlilite) regime does not control russia and there's other powers behind them.

A large part of why they feel comfortable with this is that they've realized after the fact that the public actually is so stupid that they seriously believe "oh, it was just some overreach where other people's data got swept up and analyzed" and forgot the far more substantial fact that it's CONTENT being stored and that they have everyone's data at all times.


The actual point hasn't been noticed either here or elsewhere. They already had surveillance on interesting people. This program exists so they have a trove of data on people in the event they later become "interesting" and can threaten/manipulate accordingly




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If my post seems "bluepill" it isn't. There's something subtle in there that not everyone will notice, or even understand if they do notice. It's intended to clue those who do know into what I'm getting at.
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If Snowden actually was a plant, things like this wouldn't have happened: https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/uncat...-guardian/

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David Miranda, the companion of Glenn Greenwald, who was a journalist with the British “Guardian” newspaper and the primarily journalist responsible for the NSA revelations, was arrested at the London Airport on Monday. The British have seized whatever the “Guardian” had and was forced by British intelligence to be destroyed under their supervision any and all documents given to them by Snowden. The freedom of the press exists no more.
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Russia has a history of giving asylum to "fake" defectors from the USA.

Lee Harvey Oswald travelled to the Soviet Union in 1959, claimed he wanted gave up his US citizenship and give the soviets secret classified army intel. He was given a salaried job, a fully furnished apartment in Minsk (today Belarus) in a nice building, and extra money on top of that. All on the pay of the soviet union.

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Then suddenly 2 years later in 1961, he changes his mind and wants to go home, and the USA let him back in without charging him for any crimes, loan him money to go home, and even give his new soviet wife and infant child visas to the USA.

The soviets were like...."ok sure"....and let him and his soviet wife & kid go without complaining.

2 years later he allegedly shoots president JFK in Dallas.

Clown world existed even back then.
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What content do you suppose "they" have on the (above) average joe on this forum?
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(10-24-2019 08:12 PM)Kid Twist Wrote:  What content do you suppose "they" have on the (above) average joe on this forum?

For starters:

Every porn site you've visited and everybody you've ever fucked.

If you ever become a political threat or a rabble rouser they can torpedo you early on by digging up your file, identifying who some of your ONS are, and coaxing them make rape accusations against you.

Among other things.
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(10-24-2019 08:12 PM)Kid Twist Wrote:  What content do you suppose "they" have on the (above) average joe on this forum?

You know that camera and microphone on your laptop and phone?

It never turns off. It's always running and is stored somewhere - probably in the Utah Data Center.
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(10-24-2019 08:51 AM)Sosa Wrote:  
(10-23-2019 10:17 PM)Roosh Wrote:  
(10-23-2019 07:23 PM)Caduceus Wrote:  Anyone remember that the first place Snowden went to ask for asylum was Hong Kong ? He got turned down.

Eventually Putin gave him asylum in Russia.


Some people think he's not a real defector....just a high profile disinformation agent from one US spy agency, fighting other US spy agencies.
His girlfriend also raises weird red flags.
For a guy supposedly worried about privacy, he picks a pole dancer and instagram attention whore as his girlfriend ??!

It's just a matter of figuring out which alphabet agency he works for. Look at Julian Assange while in exile: his decline was visible. He looked like he's dying. Compare that to Snowden: he looks better than ever! He really enjoys his interviews. Doesn't seem like he's in any kind of pain.

His book floated to the top of the Amazon bestsellers, which means it didn't have any information that was damaging.

Roosh is spot on.

This guy is a fake and part of a psyop. The mainstream media would NEVER publish anything that wasn't high level intel approved. Don't be fooled by his "victim" status. It's a lie. Speaks exactly like all the other well trained CIA agents whose jobs are to reinforce false narratives using hypnotic storytelling to fool the masses. Your phone listening to you is a JOKE - low level information they reveal to the public to MOCK you.

What's the real s**t they do that most people don't want to believe?

How about they can project voices into your skull and hypnotise you without your knowledge, then ping an activation signal to you via your device when the time comes, *cough* school shooters *cough*.

How they keep the population in low frequency states using static white noise towers.

How they clone world leaders, have secret "space" programs, have made deals with entities behind the veil. It's all out in the open if you do the research, but they know 99% of the population wont, and the few that do will find this all to hard to believe.

Agree except for this: 'Your phone listening to you is a JOKE"

They can activate anyone's phone/web cam on demand.

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I'm only halfway through and, while entertaining, he seems to be saying all the "right things"

"Never saw any evidence of UFOs and chemtrails" (not that I'm necessarily a die hard believer, but this is after the somewhat convincing Bob Lazar appeared on Joe Rogan)

"Trump Bad like Cheney" again, I'm no fan of Cheney but 'Trump bad' fits deep state narrative. Either that, or he's just naive what kind of leftist hellscape Trump is holding back from descending upon the USA if he wasn't "throwing elbows" as Snowden asserts.

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In other words, our government is not even "our government anymore.
They are doing things that are unconstitutional and straight up borderline illegal.

USA is supposed to be the epitome of freedom, but not sure if I want to live in a country like this anymore.

I am thinking about getting his book..

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(10-24-2019 10:46 PM)robreke Wrote:  "Trump Bad like Cheney" again, I'm no fan of Cheney but 'Trump bad' fits deep state narrative. Either that, or he's just naive what kind of leftist hellscape Trump is holding back from descending upon the USA if he wasn't "throwing elbows" as Snowden asserts.

Trump's views on this whole thing as stated during the campaign were full on "surveil everyone" and Trump has previously demanded that Snowden be executed for giving up secrets.

In the area of surveillance and privacy Trump gets an F grade.
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