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The REAL conspiracy here is the fact that men were put on the moon by strong black women like katherine johnson:

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Unfortunately I can't find any images that haven't been obviously photoshopped by racists to give her blue eyes. So here are some drawings so you can see what she really looks like:

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and here she is in the film hidden figures exposing the conspiracy theory:

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She wrote all the science and maths but because it was so sciency and mathy this entire team of men had to check over it just in case:

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Roosh desperately parroting Owen Benjamin talking points, in a bid to get more of his recognition and his fanbase runoff.

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(10-23-2019 05:17 PM)joseph15 Wrote:  And lastly, why hasn't a man been sent to the moon in like 50 years to capture some HD photos/videos? Because "we did it already and have nothing to prove?" I personally call BS.

I guess it would blow the fraud, showing different aspects of the moon such as the way they walked, for example.
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RE: Did we land on the moon?
Not sure what’s the point of believing moon landing is a hoax. It’s like that dude who is trying to prove dinosaurs don’t exist. Anyone can selectively pick evidences to support their beliefs.

Personally I rather believe in the human ingenuity, our remarkable ability to accomplish something so challenging when we put our mind into it. This is the same belief and inspiration that we want to instill in our children and the future generations. Instead of telling your son that the government are liars you tell them stories of great human achievement to inspire him to become greater than his predecessors. Instead of telling that global warming is a hoax you say that yeah it’s probably warming up a bit but no worries, our scientists will find a way to make our planet into a even better place.

Progress is not linear. Egyptians built the pyramids but later civilizations could not or chose not to replicate them. Whether for technological or economic cultural reasons. Europe went into dark ages after the remarkable progress of Roman civilization. It’s sad that space exploration stalled the past 50 years. But there has not been a paradigm shifting development in space travel technology. On the other hand who could have imagined we will have all the knowledge of the world in the palm of your hand.

Belief is not absolute. If you believe personality and personal improvement will increase your success with women you’ll have much more success than a guy who believe you are doomed by you genetic lack of attractiveness.

Believe whatever you will but do consider how it will affect your internal framework of viewing the world.
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I find it hard to believe we didn’t have film cameras fast enough to fake the landing but we had slide rules fast enough to calculate the approach, land, and return. A is orders of magnitude easier than B.
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(10-24-2019 01:49 PM)Excalibur Wrote:  Personally I rather believe in the human ingenuity, our remarkable ability to accomplish something so challenging when we put our mind into it. This is the same belief and inspiration that we want to instill in our children and the future generations.

This is called "secular humanism", and is what has allowed us to inherit the world we have today. In other words, "human ingenuity" leads to gay pride, feminism, transgender children, deplatforming, fake news, etc. etc.

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Vox Day now seems to believe that the Earth is flat.

When flying in airliners, you can actually see the curvature of the Earth. That the Earth is a sphere has been known since Ptolemy.

There there is the idea that NASA faked the moon landings.

Then Roosh seemingly to denigrate our culture's emphasis on ingenuity and productive accomplishment.

Seriously, some of you guys seem to be going off the deep end (a bit around the bend as the English would put it)

There was a discussion thread not too long ago where you guys were discussing why alt-right seems to have peaked and is now declining.

Perhaps this kind of stuff is the cause.
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(10-24-2019 03:32 PM)Abelard Lindsey Wrote:  Vox Day now seems to believe that the Earth is flat.

When flying in airliners, you can actually see the curvature of the Earth. That the Earth is a sphere has been known since Ptolemy.

There there is the idea that NASA faked the moon landings.

Then Roosh seemingly to denigrate our culture's emphasis on ingenuity and productive accomplishment.

Seriously, some of you guys seem to be going off the deep end (a bit around the bend as the English would put it)

There was a discussion thread not too long ago where you guys were discussing why alt-right seems to have peaked and is now declining.

Perhaps this kind of stuff is the cause.

Vox Day is not saying the Earth is flat. He is saying that some kind of Blue Marble image that was promoted in 2002 turns out to have been photo shopped from multiple, separate images taken closer up. In other words, no space craft was actually positioned far enough from Earth to see it all in one image for the 2002 picture, although the people who made the image make it easy to think it is a true distance shot.

I'm not sure what his point is about that. The post is poorly written, and does not make his actual conclusions clear. I suspect he also thinks there has been fakery about manned space flight, but he doesn't state clearly what he thinks is faked.

However, he's not saying he thinks the earth is flat.

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The photography section of the youtube video really got to me.

How can there be so many pictures? And wouldn't a few real photos from the moon be enough. When someone is acting honestly, they don't do fake things to dress it up. The achievement would be enough.

As Roosh says, once you unravel a few lies or conspiracies, you don't take anything at face value.

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Double post.
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(10-24-2019 02:52 PM)Hypno Wrote:  I find it hard to believe we didn’t have film cameras fast enough to fake the landing but we had slide rules fast enough to calculate the approach, land, and return. A is orders of magnitude easier than B.

High speed film cameras existed in 1969 but not high speed VIDEO cameras. This is the key point. All the Apollo missions were broadcast live using video. And in 1969 there were no high speed video cameras. This is a fact. The first high speed video cameras came out in the late 1970's.
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(10-24-2019 03:45 PM)RoastBeefCurtains4Me Wrote:  
(10-24-2019 03:32 PM)Abelard Lindsey Wrote:  Vox Day now seems to believe that the Earth is flat.

When flying in airliners, you can actually see the curvature of the Earth. That the Earth is a sphere has been known since Ptolemy.

There there is the idea that NASA faked the moon landings.

Then Roosh seemingly to denigrate our culture's emphasis on ingenuity and productive accomplishment.

Seriously, some of you guys seem to be going off the deep end (a bit around the bend as the English would put it)

There was a discussion thread not too long ago where you guys were discussing why alt-right seems to have peaked and is now declining.

Perhaps this kind of stuff is the cause.

Vox Day is not saying the Earth is flat. He is saying that some kind of Blue Marble image that was promoted in 2002 turns out to have been photo shopped from multiple, separate images taken closer up. In other words, no space craft was actually positioned far enough from Earth to see it all in one image for the 2002 picture, although the people who made the image make it easy to think it is a true distance shot.

I'm not sure what his point is about that. The post is poorly written, and does not make his actual conclusions clear. I suspect he also thinks there has been fakery about manned space flight, but he doesn't state clearly what he thinks is faked.

However, he's not saying he thinks the earth is flat.

I like Vox's political commentary and I actually agree with him on about 70% of what he writes. However, every once in a while he throws a curve ball that makes me wonder about him. His most recent posting is the latest example.


Guys, I knew people who worked in the Apollo program. It was real and, yes, we really did land on the f**king moon. There were 400,000 NASA employees and contractors involved in Apollo. You cannot hide a conspiracy involving that many people.

Anyone who believes in these kind of conspiracy theories obviously has no experience in project management.
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(10-24-2019 01:49 PM)Excalibur Wrote:  Not sure what’s the point of believing moon landing is a hoax. It’s like that dude who is trying to prove dinosaurs don’t exist. Anyone can selectively pick evidences to support their beliefs.

Personally I rather believe in the human ingenuity, our remarkable ability to accomplish something so challenging when we put our mind into it. This is the same belief and inspiration that we want to instill in our children and the future generations. Instead of telling your son that the government are liars you tell them stories of great human achievement to inspire him to become greater than his predecessors. Instead of telling that global warming is a hoax you say that yeah it’s probably warming up a bit but no worries, our scientists will find a way to make our planet into a even better place.

Progress is not linear. Egyptians built the pyramids but later civilizations could not or chose not to replicate them. Whether for technological or economic cultural reasons. Europe went into dark ages after the remarkable progress of Roman civilization. It’s sad that space exploration stalled the past 50 years. But there has not been a paradigm shifting development in space travel technology. On the other hand who could have imagined we will have all the knowledge of the world in the palm of your hand.

Belief is not absolute. If you believe personality and personal improvement will increase your success with women you’ll have much more success than a guy who believe you are doomed by you genetic lack of attractiveness.

Believe whatever you will but do consider how it will affect your internal framework of viewing the world.

The main bottleneck to deep space travel is cost. Going to the Moon was and is very expensive. Expendable chemical rockets are very expensive to build and that's all we have to launch large payloads or people into space, at least for now. The only other space propulsion system that wouldn't require exotic matter or new type of physics that we could conceivably build now is nuclear pulse propulsion (like Project Orion). But this requires developing nuclear ordinance. And I highly doubt that the US government or any major government of the world would allow a private corporation to possess nuclear ordinance.
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(10-24-2019 02:29 AM)Long Haired Samson Wrote:  
(10-23-2019 06:12 PM)Cuchulainn2016 Wrote:  
(10-23-2019 05:39 PM)Long Haired Samson Wrote:  Let the Youtube video posting begin. This filmmaker argues that the technology to fake the landing live on TV with hours long video was impossible in 1969 since the requisite high speed video cameras did not exist in 1969. If this is true then the entire Moon conspiracy is DOA.




Wait..... they didn't have the technology to make a fake film of the moon landings, but they did have the technology to build space rockets, put people on them, fire them at the moon, land on the moon, go for a walk, take off from the moon, and fly back to earth where they landed safely?

OK

Yes, you are correct. Most people simply do not understand how primitive electronics really were in 1969, Today people are used to smart phones, 10 oz tablets, 3 lb laptops, etc. Buy 1969 was FIFTY YEARS ago, That is half a century and electronics had come a long way since 1969. As the filmmaker shows video technology barely existed in 1969. The filmmaker made a second video further delving into the video technology issue.




This is a load of crap. Your guy here is lying through the gills, using sleight of hand and other wizardry to drive down the ridiculous notion that video technology wasn't there to do slow-mo in 1969.

VCR tech was already available in 1969, Sony had already developed it by then:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U-matic


One of the most retarded NASA lies was to say they don't have the Apollo Mission tapes because they had to use them to tape other stuff, lol:

Quote:Moon landing tapes got erased, NASA admits
Maggie Fox, Health, Science Editor

WASHINGTON (Reuters)NASA admitted in 2006 that no one could find the original video recordings of the July 20, 1969, landing.

Since then, Richard Nafzger, an engineer at NASA’s Goddard Space Flight Center in Maryland, who oversaw television processing at the ground-tracking sites during the Apollo 11 mission, has been looking for them.

The good news is he found where they went. The bad news is they were part of a batch of 200,000 tapes that were degaussed — magnetically erased — and re-used to save money.

$4 billion annual budget (in 1970s $$$s) and they had to manually erase thousands of tapes documenting the agency's greatest achievement, in order to save the cost of new tapes, which was a dirt cheap mass consumer good by the late 70s...

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(10-24-2019 03:51 PM)Long Haired Samson Wrote:  
(10-24-2019 02:52 PM)Hypno Wrote:  I find it hard to believe we didn’t have film cameras fast enough to fake the landing but we had slide rules fast enough to calculate the approach, land, and return. A is orders of magnitude easier than B.

High speed film cameras existed in 1969 but not high speed VIDEO cameras. This is the key point. All the Apollo missions were broadcast live using video. And in 1969 there were no high speed video cameras. This is a fact. The first high speed video cameras came out in the late 1970's.

Slow-motion VCRs were available to the mass consumer public in the early 1970s, the notion that this technology couldn't have been given to NASA a few years before that is ridiculous. This was not a tech challenge, it was just an engineering feature that could have been implemented in-house, or custom made for NASA.

The fact that this talking point is that guy's centerpiece argument shows how weak his position is.

NASA had key audiovisual tech that wasn't available to the public, like the largest/fastest aperture lens in the history of photography, the Carl Zeiss Planar 50mm f/0.7. This lens cost $5 million (in 1960s $$$), the most expensive camera lens ever produced. NASA could source out/develop all the video and film tech it needed with less than 1% of its 1960s multibillion budget.

Funnily enough, the only person that was able to use this lens outside of NASA was Stanley Kubrick, for his movie Barry Lyndon. Perhaps a special perk for his NASA work...

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(10-24-2019 03:54 PM)Abelard Lindsey Wrote:  
(10-24-2019 03:45 PM)RoastBeefCurtains4Me Wrote:  
(10-24-2019 03:32 PM)Abelard Lindsey Wrote:  Vox Day now seems to believe that the Earth is flat.

When flying in airliners, you can actually see the curvature of the Earth. That the Earth is a sphere has been known since Ptolemy.

There there is the idea that NASA faked the moon landings.

Then Roosh seemingly to denigrate our culture's emphasis on ingenuity and productive accomplishment.

Seriously, some of you guys seem to be going off the deep end (a bit around the bend as the English would put it)

There was a discussion thread not too long ago where you guys were discussing why alt-right seems to have peaked and is now declining.

Perhaps this kind of stuff is the cause.

Vox Day is not saying the Earth is flat. He is saying that some kind of Blue Marble image that was promoted in 2002 turns out to have been photo shopped from multiple, separate images taken closer up. In other words, no space craft was actually positioned far enough from Earth to see it all in one image for the 2002 picture, although the people who made the image make it easy to think it is a true distance shot.

I'm not sure what his point is about that. The post is poorly written, and does not make his actual conclusions clear. I suspect he also thinks there has been fakery about manned space flight, but he doesn't state clearly what he thinks is faked.

However, he's not saying he thinks the earth is flat.

I like Vox's political commentary and I actually agree with him on about 70% of what he writes. However, every once in a while he throws a curve ball that makes me wonder about him. His most recent posting is the latest example.

Guys, I knew people who worked in the Apollo program. It was real and, yes, we really did land on the f**king moon. There were 400,000 NASA employees and contractors involved in Apollo. You cannot hide a conspiracy involving that many people.

Anyone who believes in these kind of conspiracy theories obviously has no experience in project management.


The project was compartmentalized enough so that only a few dozen people had enough of a perspective to assess the real outcome of the program. You had thousands of people working on separate projects like the LEM landing gear, HVAC, sanitary system, wiring etc... And some of those who were in position to see that big picture did come out and blow the whistle.

As well, being a part of a project like this makes it harder to doubt its fundamental nature. This project became one of the modern foundational myths, especially for guys who are into tech. Kids grew up worshiping astronauts as heroes and the Apollo missions as humanity's crowning achievement. It is about as hard to convince guys like Paracelsus that the landings were faked as it is to convince the average woman that feminism was a psyop to dilute the labor force and destroy the family unit.

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(10-23-2019 04:55 PM)Roosh Wrote:  I first had doubts about the moon landing around 2015, but didn't come to a definitive conclusion. As the years went on, I was sympathetic to moon deniers because it was clear that those in power are lying about everything. If you catch someone in one lie, such as your wife, it's natural to evaluate other things they've stated to you as fact. I started to believe that it was more likely we didn't land on the moon than not.

I'm ready now to come out as a moon landing denier. This video sealed the deal for me:





Therefore, I don't believe we landed on the moon. It's okay if you don't agree with me, and I won't try to convince you otherwise. That said, if you want to participate in this thread, refrain from emotional attacks.


This video is at once, a great source for debunking the moon landing, and a superb piece of deep state dysinformation and cognitive infiltration.

This guy is pushing the Flat Earth psyop as a small item piggybacking on his main thesis. At the 38:14 mark, he casually pushes the notion that because NASA lies about the lunar landings, then the earth must be flat, and that satellites and space itself aren't real. That's the 1% potent disinfo poison pill that is seamlessly injected into the 99% powerful truth serum.

Those with limited scientific backgrounds but are skeptical enough to look into his thesis and assess the veracity of his arguments with open minds will tend to absorb his lies along with his powerful truths. Well-meaning, intelligent guys with limited scientific grounding, guys like Owen Benjamin, will fall for this trap.

Benjamin doesn't believe fundamental, basic truths like the earth is a spinning globe, that dinosaurs are real, or that nukes are real. This has for effect to destroy his credibility with the larger public.

All these false basic notions are the results of sophisticated, well-funded psyops that started to take off at the behest of Cass Sunstein, Obama's Administrator of the White House Office of Information (dubbed "Information Czar").

You have skillful presentations that use counterintuitive anomalies and misinformation to convince a skeptical audience that lacks the critical scientific grounding to properly reject these notions. It's very frustrating to see guys like Owen falling for this trap, mindf*cks that significantly hamper their credibility with the larger public, thus limiting their reach and neutralizing them.

The 9/11 "no planes" is another psyop, as are other fantastical variations of the 9/11 narrative, like the notion of directed energy weapons. Those are other types of cognitive infiltration psyops, designed to divide the truth-seeking community.

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(10-24-2019 03:51 PM)Long Haired Samson Wrote:  
(10-24-2019 02:52 PM)Hypno Wrote:  I find it hard to believe we didn’t have film cameras fast enough to fake the landing but we had slide rules fast enough to calculate the approach, land, and return. A is orders of magnitude easier than B.

High speed film cameras existed in 1969 but not high speed VIDEO cameras. This is the key point. All the Apollo missions were broadcast live using video. And in 1969 there were no high speed video cameras. This is a fact. The first high speed video cameras came out in the late 1970's.

Why do you need high speed video cameras?

There is an interesting French documentary that came out in 2002 called Operation Lune. It used to be widely available on the internet including (((YouTube))) but now is very difficult to find. Its creators now claim its a mock-documentary, but its tone is entirely serious. At a minimum it explains how and why it might have been faked. Regarding the camera, the director explains that Carl Zeiss developed ten f.0.7 lenses. (here, speed does not refer to the shutter speed but its ability to capture an image in low light, like "fast" or high-speed film if you remember film cameras.) But of course the images we all saw were brightly illuminated, so why did the camera need to be fast?

I'm agnostic, it doesn't really matter to me, but I do think it was possible and there were large incentives to fake it.
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China is faking too:


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(10-24-2019 04:21 PM)911 Wrote:  
(10-24-2019 02:29 AM)Long Haired Samson Wrote:  
(10-23-2019 06:12 PM)Cuchulainn2016 Wrote:  
(10-23-2019 05:39 PM)Long Haired Samson Wrote:  Let the Youtube video posting begin. This filmmaker argues that the technology to fake the landing live on TV with hours long video was impossible in 1969 since the requisite high speed video cameras did not exist in 1969. If this is true then the entire Moon conspiracy is DOA.




Wait..... they didn't have the technology to make a fake film of the moon landings, but they did have the technology to build space rockets, put people on them, fire them at the moon, land on the moon, go for a walk, take off from the moon, and fly back to earth where they landed safely?

OK

Yes, you are correct. Most people simply do not understand how primitive electronics really were in 1969, Today people are used to smart phones, 10 oz tablets, 3 lb laptops, etc. Buy 1969 was FIFTY YEARS ago, That is half a century and electronics had come a long way since 1969. As the filmmaker shows video technology barely existed in 1969. The filmmaker made a second video further delving into the video technology issue.




This is a load of crap. Your guy here is lying through the gills, using sleight of hand and other wizardry to drive down the ridiculous notion that video technology wasn't there to do slow-mo in 1969.

VCR tech was already available in 1969, Sony had already developed it by then:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U-matic

He is talking about HIGH SPEED video camera. The wikipedia page says Sony first showed this recording machine in October 1969 and was not available commercially until September 1971. And this is NOT a high speed video CAMERA. It is a recorder. Video technology existed before 1969. Shoot, the TV show The Twilight Zone recorded six episodes in video format in the early 1960's. No Moon hoaxer has ever showed any evidence that a high speed video camera existed in 1969. No such evidence exists because no such camera actually existed in 1969.
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(10-24-2019 02:52 PM)Hypno Wrote:  I find it hard to believe we didn’t have film cameras fast enough to fake the landing but we had slide rules fast enough to calculate the approach, land, and return. A is orders of magnitude easier than B.

High speed film cameras existed in 1969 but not high speed VIDEO cameras. This is the key point. All the Apollo missions were broadcast live using video. And in 1969 there were no high speed video cameras. This is a fact. The first high speed video cameras came out in the late 1970's.

Slow-motion VCRs were available to the mass consumer public in the early 1970s,

Ok, name the Brand and model number then.

Quote:the notion that this technology couldn't have been given to NASA a few years before that is ridiculous.

An argument from incredulity,. A VCR is not a video high speed camera. And why would Sony GIVE NASA any technology? If they did then there would be documentary evidence and first person accounts of such a transaction.

Quote:This was not a tech challenge, it was just an engineering feature that could have been implemented in-house, or custom made for NASA.

Ok, by whom? Name the company.

Quote:The fact that this talking point is that guy's centerpiece argument shows how weak his position is.

Weak? It destroys the fake Moon hoax conspiracy.

Quote:NASA had key audiovisual tech that wasn't available to the public, like the largest/fastest aperture lens in the history of photography, the Carl Zeiss Planar 50mm f/0.7. This lens cost $5 million (in 1960s $$$), the most expensive camera lens ever produced. NASA could source out/develop all the video and film tech it needed with less than 1% of its 1960s multibillion budget.

Ok, then name the company or companies that did the engineering design and manufacturing of all this magic technology.

Quote:Funnily enough, the only person that was able to use this lens outside of NASA was Stanley Kubrick, for his movie Barry Lyndon. Perhaps a special perk for his NASA work...

But of course.
10-24-2019 09:33 PM
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RE: Did we land on the moon?
I didn’t watch the whole video, just scrolled around but did stop at the part where he talked about the inverse square law of light. His explanation is so horribly wrong it, at least to me, discredits anything else he has to say.

The moon isn’t a light source. Moonlight is a result of sunlight being reflected off the moons surface and then makes its way to Earth. The incident light from the sun has already lost basically all of its intensity, and then gets reflected from the moon to Earth. Since the distance from Sun to moon is magnitudes of order greater from Moon to Earth, the reflected moonlight will have approximately the same intensity at the moon’s surface as it does at Earth’s surface.

I’m an Aerospace Engineering graduate student and can tell you that most of these conspiracies that use “science” as reasoning including 9/11 “jet fuel can’t melt steel beams” are not true and make way too many false assumptions.
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RE: Did we land on the moon?
(10-24-2019 05:42 PM)911 Wrote:  
(10-23-2019 04:55 PM)Roosh Wrote:  I first had doubts about the moon landing around 2015, but didn't come to a definitive conclusion. As the years went on, I was sympathetic to moon deniers because it was clear that those in power are lying about everything. If you catch someone in one lie, such as your wife, it's natural to evaluate other things they've stated to you as fact. I started to believe that it was more likely we didn't land on the moon than not.

I'm ready now to come out as a moon landing denier. This video sealed the deal for me:





Therefore, I don't believe we landed on the moon. It's okay if you don't agree with me, and I won't try to convince you otherwise. That said, if you want to participate in this thread, refrain from emotional attacks.


This video is at once, a great source for debunking the moon landing, and a superb piece of deep state dysinformation and cognitive infiltration.

This guy is pushing the Flat Earth psyop as a small item piggybacking on his main thesis. At the 38:14 mark, he casually pushes the notion that because NASA lies about the lunar landings, then the earth must be flat, and that satellites and space itself aren't real. That's the 1% potent disinfo poison pill that is seamlessly injected into the 99% powerful truth serum.

Those with limited scientific backgrounds but are skeptical enough to look into his thesis and assess the veracity of his arguments with open minds will tend to absorb his lies along with his powerful truths. Well-meaning, intelligent guys with limited scientific grounding, guys like Owen Benjamin, will fall for this trap.

Benjamin doesn't believe fundamental, basic truths like the earth is a spinning globe, that dinosaurs are real, or that nukes are real. This has for effect to destroy his credibility with the larger public.

All these false basic notions are the results of sophisticated, well-funded psyops that started to take off at the behest of Cass Sunstein, Obama's Administrator of the White House Office of Information (dubbed "Information Czar").

You have skillful presentations that use counterintuitive anomalies and misinformation to convince a skeptical audience that lacks the critical scientific grounding to properly reject these notions. It's very frustrating to see guys like Owen falling for this trap, mindf*cks that significantly hamper their credibility with the larger public, thus limiting their reach and neutralizing them.

The 9/11 "no planes" is another psyop, as are other fantastical variations of the 9/11 narrative, like the notion of directed energy weapons. Those are other types of cognitive infiltration psyops, designed to divide the truth-seeking community.

This is my sentiment in my previous post above.
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RE: Did we land on the moon?
I work in a physics lab. I administer a bunch of satellite systems; NASA is our largest customer and I interface with them daily. I also work with the big defense companies; Boeing, Lockheed, Northrup...etc.
Some of our projects are weather satellites, a lot study the sun, the atmosphere, we have one satellite that is currently orbiting Mars, and we also have a piece of the ISS(international space station).

If NASA faked the moon landings, it would follow that most or all of these projects that I personally manage are also fake.

So, would any moon landing deniers also claim that:
1. All of these current projects are not real
2. Moon landings were faked, but some/most/all of the rest are real, e.g. the NOAA weather satellite I administer is real
3. Some other option? I'm curious what that would be.

The reality is that the scientists I work with are too socially inept to lie well.
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RE: Did we land on the moon?
(10-24-2019 11:07 PM)cosine Wrote:  If NASA faked the moon landings, it would follow that most or all of these projects that I personally manage are also fake.

No, it would not follow. That's a fallacious argument meant to distract from the obviously fake moon landing. You are free to use your expertise to stay on topic and give proof for the moon landing being real.

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