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(10-30-2019 06:39 PM)Roosh Wrote:  Very predictable attacks against him. Shut it down!


Questioning certain aspects as usual means that you deny EVERYTHING. You are not allowed to do that of course. David Cole received a hit-job for his research and had to backtrack. And David Cole later came out saying that he did not mean that no Jews died there, just that things did not happen the way they are said to have happened. But no - can't accept that.
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(10-31-2019 01:08 AM)Tom Slick Wrote:  TPUSA official periscope: Culture War LIVE from the Ohio State University featuring Charlie Kirk, Rob Smith and Fleccas!
https://www.pscp.tv/w/1YpKkYAgRZyJj

It's amazing how he goes into terms like "White ethno-state" since the US was founded on those principles - as a settler country for White Europeans. They even added it into the constitution and had later imposed laws restricting immigration of Chinese. They sent back Indians in the early 20th century as they put their race wrong in their application. All of that was only amended in the 1960s.

And even then - it was understood as the default mainstream desire of 75%+ of the population for the ethnic makeup to remain the same. Now all of this is racist - except of course when Israel is concerned. Then all those issues are suddenly not racist but common sense.
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who else is feeling that big frog energy resurging from the pepe 2016 days

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You dont have to be an ethno-nationalist to see that a minority majority America will be California. How can these idiots not see this?

Even if you are purely an economic conservative and want low taxes - once we have Cali demographics socialist policies will be put in place. Think long term not about quarterly profits. Wall St hates Warren, but they are ensuring in 10 years we will have something far worse (likely a even more populist minority version of her).
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Lenin quote reminded me of this.

Quote:A substantial number of neoconservatives were originally moderate socialists associated with the right-wing of the Socialist Party of America (SP) and its successor, Social Democrats, USA (SDUSA). Max Shachtman, a former Trotskyist theorist who developed a strong antipathy towards the New Left, had numerous devotees among SDUSA with strong links to George Meany's AFL-CIO. Following Shachtman and Meany, this faction led the SP to oppose immediate withdrawal from the Vietnam War, and oppose George McGovern in the Democratic primary race and, to some extent, the general election. They also chose to cease their own party-building and concentrated on working within the Democratic Party, eventually influencing it through the Democratic Leadership Council.[25] Thus the Socialist Party dissolved in 1972, and SDUSA emerged that year. (Most of the left-wing of the party, led by Michael Harrington, immediately abandoned SDUSA.)[26][27] SDUSA leaders associated with neoconservatism include Carl Gershman, Penn Kemble, Joshua Muravchik and Bayard Rustin.[28][29][30][31]

Norman Podhoretz's magazine Commentary of the American Jewish Committee, originally a journal of liberalism, became a major publication for neoconservatives during the 1970s. Commentary published an article by Jeane Kirkpatrick, an early and prototypical neoconservative, albeit not a New Yorker.

New York Intellectuals
Many neoconservatives had been Jewish intellectuals in New York City during the 1930s. They were on the political left, but strongly opposed Stalinism and some were Trotskyists. During the Cold War they continued to oppose Stalinism and to endorse democracy. The great majority became liberal Democrats.[32][33]

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This is something to watch for. TPUSA member resigned from his position at TPUSA’s KSU Chapter. Others will follow in his steps.

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(((Daily Wire))) editor reveals what we already know:


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^^^ Re: (((Daily Wire))) tweet

Paul Joseph Watson has this to say:
Quote:OK, then.

Modern conservatives claim to be fighting a “culture war” yet have ceded ground on every single battle to the point where their position resembles what liberals believed less than ten years ago.

Progressives are dragging the Overton Window to the fringes of the left and modern conservatives are dutifully tracking behind.

Where is their line in the sand? In 10 years, will so-called conservatives be embracing Drag Queen Story Time and forced medication of 7-year-old transgender kids?

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Don't forget that this Benny Johnson, now apparently a conservative thought leader and currently serving as chief creative officer at Turning Point USA, was fired at BuzzFeed for plagiarism.

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(10-31-2019 11:06 AM)Roosh Wrote:  

He later went on to join the Independent Journal Review (IJR), where this happened:

Quote:Benny Johnson was accused of plagiarism (again)

Staffers at Independent Journal Review accused Benny Johnson of plagiarism in 2015, just a year after BuzzFeed fired him for copying dozens of other sites, according to a story published Tuesday by Business Insider.

Johnson, who joined Independent Journal Review in 2015 after being let go from BuzzFeed for 41 examples of plagiarism, was accused by his colleagues in November 2015 of copying part of an article about U.S. Rep. Cathy McMorris Rodgers (R-Washington), according to the story.

Business Insider also included a screenshot of a instant message conversation between former IJR Editor-in-Chief Bubba Atkinson and an IJR staffer whose identity was redacted in which Atkinson asked about the plagiarism allegations.

“Tell me about Benny’s plagiarism and why I’m just now hearing about it,” Atkinson wrote, according to the screenshot.

Neither Johnson nor Atkinson responded to emails seeking comment Tuesday.

I wonder where he copied his definition of a *real* conservative from?

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Dave Reilly and E Michael Jones break down TPUSA, exposing the agenda of their financial backers, this is a great video:




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(10-31-2019 11:25 AM)Belgrano Wrote:  Don't forget that this Benny Johnson, now apparently a conservative thought leader and currently serving as chief creative officer at Turning Point USA, was fired at BuzzFeed for plagiarism.

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Conservatives 2019:

+ trannies with Trump hats
+ homosexuals with lip-service commitments to "conservative values"
+ Zionist ethno-state supporters but deniers for every Western country
+ fellow White Jewish girls who write about black dicks, icky White boys
+ mainstream Republican cuckservatives who are traipsing the Democrats just 2 steps behind depending on how far left the other party goes

It's truly hilarious that they claim the US to be some kind of eternally super-liberal country when it was rather a more conservative one in most of it's history at least compared to nations like France or Germany. They banned the Japanese porn manga and magazines back in the 1940s because the soldiers were offended by it. Their censorship started because of hurt GIs feelings.

Now they tell us that US conservatism was different than the European one - yeah, it was. It was more conservative on many fronts - they even banned alcohol partly because of the Puritan mindset.
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The bottom line is that the hardcore Marxist left (Warren, Sanders, AOC, et al) aren't going to stop pushing HARD for what they believe in. They will keep shifting the narrative in their direction due to lack of proper response from Conservative Inc. That's why men who value actually having a culture, a nation-state, or rule of law need to push back HARDER, not only to NOT lose ground, but to proactively advocate for true conservatism. If you're worried about being called an antisemite, racist, homophobe, etc. you've already lost. You need as much don't give a shit attitude as possible. Do you think the Marxist left cares if we are offended? Of course they don't. If you're not offending the Marxist left and Conservative Inc, you're not pushing hard enough to the right. Roosh is ahead of the curve in advocating for men to return to God, because men who have a true spiritual life and care about the future of their country are the biggest threat to Globohomo, Conservative Inc, the Marxist left, etc. Muh "economic nationalism" or "civic nationalism" ain't gonna cut it. As soon as the fiat bucks are worthless or the "civic" life isn't so civil, it will require men of strong will and spiritual formation to rebuild from the ashes that we are headed towards. It is time to tough up in all areas of our lives, because the road ahead is only going to get harder going in. There's no avoiding it, only preparing for it accordingly. Get ready, then get other men in your circle ready. That is all.

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(10-31-2019 11:58 AM)John Michael Kane Wrote:  The bottom line is that the hardcore Marxist left (Warren, Sanders, AOC, et al) aren't going to stop pushing HARD for what they believe in. They will keep shifting the narrative in their direction due to lack of proper response from Conservative Inc. That's why men who value actually having a culture, a nation-state, or rule of law need to push back HARDER, not only to NOT lose ground, but to proactively advocate for true conservatism. If you're worried about being called an antisemite, racist, homophobe, etc. you've already lost. You need as much don't give a shit attitude as possible. Do you think the Marxist left cares if we are offended? Of course they don't. If you're not offending the Marxist left and Conservative Inc, you're not pushing hard enough to the right. Roosh is ahead of the curve in advocating for men to return to God, because men who have a true spiritual life and care about the future of their country are the biggest threat to Globohomo, Conservative Inc, the Marxist left, etc. Muh "economic nationalism" or "civic nationalism" ain't gonna cut it. As soon as the fiat bucks are worthless or the "civic" life isn't so civil, it will require men of strong will and spiritual formation to rebuild from the ashes that we are headed towards. It is time to tough up in all areas of our lives, because the road ahead is only going to get harder going in. There's no avoiding it, only preparing for it accordingly. Get ready, then get other men in your circle ready. That is all.

Returning to God also is a shortcut to fighting Evil directly instead of bothering with the sock puppets Satan prepared.
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(10-31-2019 11:58 AM)John Michael Kane Wrote:  The bottom line is that the hardcore Marxist left (Warren, Sanders, AOC, et al) aren't going to stop pushing HARD for what they believe in. They will keep shifting the narrative in their direction due to lack of proper response from Conservative Inc. That's why men who value actually having a culture, a nation-state, or rule of law need to push back HARDER, not only to NOT lose ground, but to proactively advocate for true conservatism. If you're worried about being called an antisemite, racist, homophobe, etc. you've already lost. You need as much don't give a shit attitude as possible. Do you think the Marxist left cares if we are offended? Of course they don't. If you're not offending the Marxist left and Conservative Inc, you're not pushing hard enough to the right. Roosh is ahead of the curve in advocating for men to return to God, because men who have a true spiritual life and care about the future of their country are the biggest threat to Globohomo, Conservative Inc, the Marxist left, etc. Muh "economic nationalism" or "civic nationalism" ain't gonna cut it. As soon as the fiat bucks are worthless or the "civic" life isn't so civil, it will require men of strong will and spiritual formation to rebuild from the ashes that we are headed towards. It is time to tough up in all areas of our lives, because the road ahead is only going to get harder going in. There's no avoiding it, only preparing for it accordingly. Get ready, then get other men in your circle ready. That is all.

You can push all you want - when you become a minority as in California and among under 6-year-olds already, then it's over. The other "more conservative" ethnicities vote for the Democrats at levels of 65-95%. You can be as conservative if you want at that point similar to European-heritage Californians who contrary to opinions even back in the 1980s voted in Reagan the uber-Republican. Today the men would have voted for Trump in the majority while the women only follow the common ruling consensus. Demographics is king in this respect.

But I get where you are going - that kind of real conservativsm will at best be voiced by the ones of Ann Coulter as an extreme exception. If the likes of Nick Fuentes become more popular than he will be banned from all platforms like Milo (who isn't even much of conservtive role model anyway).
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(10-31-2019 11:58 AM)John Michael Kane Wrote:  The bottom line is that the hardcore Marxist left (Warren, Sanders, AOC, et al) aren't going to stop pushing HARD for what they believe in. They will keep shifting the narrative in their direction due to lack of proper response from Conservative Inc. That's why men who value actually having a culture, a nation-state, or rule of law need to push back HARDER, not only to NOT lose ground, but to proactively advocate for true conservatism. If you're worried about being called an antisemite, racist, homophobe, etc. you've already lost. You need as much don't give a shit attitude as possible. Do you think the Marxist left cares if we are offended? Of course they don't. If you're not offending the Marxist left and Conservative Inc, you're not pushing hard enough to the right. Roosh is ahead of the curve in advocating for men to return to God, because men who have a true spiritual life and care about the future of their country are the biggest threat to Globohomo, Conservative Inc, the Marxist left, etc. Muh "economic nationalism" or "civic nationalism" ain't gonna cut it. As soon as the fiat bucks are worthless or the "civic" life isn't so civil, it will require men of strong will and spiritual formation to rebuild from the ashes that we are headed towards. It is time to tough up in all areas of our lives, because the road ahead is only going to get harder going in. There's no avoiding it, only preparing for it accordingly. Get ready, then get other men in your circle ready. That is all.

You can push all you want - when you become a minority as in California and among under 6-year-olds already, then it's over. The other "more conservative" ethnicities vote for the Democrats at levels of 65-95%. You can be as conservative if you want at that point similar to European-heritage Californians who contrary to opinions even back in the 1980s voted in Reagan the uber-Republican. Today the men would have voted for Trump in the majority while the women only follow the common ruling consensus. Demographics is king in this respect.

But I get where you are going - that kind of real conservativsm will at best be voiced by the ones of Ann Coulter as an extreme exception. If the likes of Nick Fuentes become more popular than he will be banned from all platforms like Milo (who isn't even much of conservtive role model anyway).

Demographics absolutely does matter, which is even conservative minorities will advocate for less immigration period, both legal and illegal. The hard truth is that the vast majority of non-whites have a predisposition towards Marxism. Absent someone even more hardcore on immigration than Trump getting elected, conservative whites (and the minority of minorities who are actually conservative) will have to prepare for a future where they are outvoted and culturally overrun by the Leftist Goon Squad. That's why hedging on this future, however unpleasant, is needed in case the worst comes to pass. Just "enjoying the decline by the poolside" isn't going to be an option when there's no poolside left to enjoy.

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Enjoying the decline at the pool is totally an option. All you need to do is just be armed and ready to move when shit hits the fan - or have a second home ready already. That is absolutely an option.
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(10-31-2019 12:46 PM)Simeon_Strangelight Wrote:  Enjoying the decline at the pool is totally an option. All you need to do is just be armed and ready to move when shit hits the fan - or have a second home ready already. That is absolutely an option.

Unless you live in a remote area and are already ready to go off-grid and completely sustain yourself (power, food, water, etc.), then "poolside" is not an option for most people. Most people live close enough to other people that if everything falls apart, they will be in harm's way. The amount of people who are truly prepped to go "poolside" is marginal.

The first thing to do is get out of an urban area. The second best would be to be in a suburb that is mostly conservative white (not liberal white/liberal minorities). The best option for "poolside" would be a remote/rural self-sustaining area that is far away from chaos should/when it breaks out. The hardest part of being in that really remote/rural area is that most of those places offer little to no well-paying jobs. It just isn't an option for most men to be that far out and provide for a family. Unless you're fortunate enough to be independently wealthy or do well-paying remote work, or are already nearing retirement, being poolside 1000 miles away from it all isn't viable for the majority of men.

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(10-31-2019 11:38 AM)Simeon_Strangelight Wrote:  Conservatives 2019:

+ trannies with Trump hats
+ homosexuals with lip-service commitments to "conservative values"

Conservatives 2016 thought this was just a funny joke done by a man (who just so happened to be a homosexual) worthy of respect and leadership:

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(10-31-2019 12:43 PM)John Michael Kane Wrote:  That's why hedging on this future, however unpleasant, is needed in case the worst comes to pass. Just "enjoying the decline by the poolside" isn't going to be an option when there's no poolside left to enjoy.

News flash: this future is coming to pass right now. There is no "in case the worst come to pass", this is reality already. Any discussion of demographics, immigration, etc is basically just post-game analysis at this point.

Trump is the best President the country has had in decades, and he's hanging on by the skin of his teeth, barely able to fend off one criminally illegitimate "investigation" before another one starts.

By 2024, that is less than 5 years from today, it will be impossible for a Republican to win the Presidency again ever. The same goes for Republican majorities and the house and senate.

What happens then?

Every civil right, the first and second amendments, will be absolutely undone. The supreme court will be packed with new justices, likely "revolutionary" POC types. God only knows what the economy will do at that point.

Anyone not currently saving up money and getting ready with a plan B is, in my view, making a large mistake. This isn't a distant possibility, we're staring down the barrel of it right now.
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TPUSA's staff and defenders keep using terms like "retrograde" and "behind the times" to describe their opponents. They're literally saying "they aren't progressive enough to be conservatives."

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