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RE: Zionist Conservatism vs Groypers thread (retitled)
(10-31-2019 02:05 PM)MichaelWitcoff Wrote:  TPUSA's staff and defenders keep using terms like "retrograde" and "behind the times" to describe their opponents. They're literally saying "they aren't progressive enough to be conservatives."

These are just veiled "It's 2019!!!" non-arguments.

They are trying to reach the young, who are especially susceptible to this kind of appeal.

“That sig BTW is a very asinine anti-family anti-parent quote. You live in a country where 40% of children grow up without a biological father, yet somehow “the greatest burden a child must bear is the unlived life of its parents”? Sorry but this is fruity Boomer nonsense.”

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RE: Zionist Conservatism vs Groypers thread (retitled)
Dave Rubin seems a bit shook by the Groyper movement. Not surprising considering he's a openly "conservative" homosexual.

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RE: Zionist Conservatism vs Groypers thread (retitled)
The Zionist Organisation of America is asking for Nick to be banned from Twitter.

Israeli interest groups like the ZOA and ADL are actively harassing, smearing, and destroying the lives of American citizens on U.S. soil in the open for merely questioning the nature of America's relationship with Israel (not even opposing the existence of Israel or Zionism itself necessarily), but according to the politicians and the media you are supposed believe that Russian facebook ads are the foreign threat to Americans.

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RE: Zionist Conservatism vs Groypers thread (retitled)
The biggest pro-censorship groups are all Zionist, directly (ADL, ZOA, etc.) or indirectly (SPLC). They love tolerance, as long as you agree with them, otherwise, it is SHUT IT DOWN. Little wonder why they smeared Roosh when he encouraged men to find meaningful relationships with women, or why he questions the motives of the groups above. Make no mistake; These groups will stop at nothing to silence us. That's why Fuentes, Roosh, etc. need our support now more than ever.

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RE: Zionist Conservatism vs Groypers thread (retitled)
The only homo I can think of who actually *seems* conservative is Peter Thiel. Perhaps that is why he isn't touted by the msm as a face of "gay conservativism".
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RE: Zionist Conservatism vs Groypers thread (retitled)
Sebastian Gorka, Dave Rubin, TPUSA, the Zionist Organisation of America -- the spectrum of alt lite figures and Trump Admin members who ostensibly represent Trumpism and the MAGA movement have all come out to attack Nick and his followers. In way it makes a statement for itself about something else Nick has been talking about on his show in recent months -- it's disturbing how within 1 or 2 years the Trump movement has been completely co-opted and assimilated by these establishment neocons who clearly oppose everything Trump stood for in 2016 and are redirecting what energy the Trump movement has left into elite agendas like supporting Israel.

It's ironic that the election energy for 2020 is coming from not attacking the Left like in 2016 but attacking the neocons that have surrounded President Trump.
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RE: Zionist Conservatism vs Groypers thread (retitled)
(11-01-2019 12:29 PM)Gimlet Wrote:  The only homo I can think of who actually *seems* conservative is Peter Thiel. Perhaps that is why he isn't touted by the msm as a face of "gay conservativism".

He's not in-your-face with his homosexuality because he's more of a libertarian than a conservative/leftist. Ironically, that makes him more conservative these days than many in Conservative Inc. I've listened to many of his talks on YouTube, he's crazy smart and tries hard to articulate his thought process before instead of randomly blurting out stuff. He's actually given quite a few interesting talks about the future of where the country is headed due to identity politics and the belief that we don't have a grand future in front of us, is causing us to stop trying ambitious goals.

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RE: Zionist Conservatism vs Groypers thread (retitled)
Gorka’s been accused of anti Semitism in the past, which probably explains how he’s acting now. Anti semitism allegations can ruin your career. There’s a bit of “me thinks the lady protesteth too much” in Gorka’s reaction. It doesn’t seem genuine.

He could be /our guy/ but has to do a song and dance for the j00 bosses to keep food on the table.

Take care of those titties for me.
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RE: Zionist Conservatism vs Groypers thread (retitled)
USS Liberty veterans have come out to condemn @charliekirk11 and his tour of lies.

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October 29, 2019

Mr. Charlie Kirk, Founder
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4940 East Beverly Road
Phoenix, Arizona 85044

Dear Mr. Kirk:

In the video above you condemned as “Conspiracy Theorists” the officers and crew of the USS Liberty (AGTR-5) who survived the June 8, 1967, Israeli attack on our ship.

Since the term is only used as a pejorative, since nothing could be further from the truth, and since your use of the term is a direct insult to the sacrifice of 34 of our shipmates, the effort of those of us who survived the attack and the suffering of the families of our fallen shipmates, I am compelled to write.

Mr. Kirk, over 52 years ago our “best friend and only ally in the Middle East” attacked us without warning and without provocation while we were steaming in international waters on a lawful mission for the United States.

Over 52 years ago military elements belonging to our “best friend and only ally in the Middle East” jammed our radios on both US Navy tactical and international maritime distress frequencies.

Over 52 years ago unmarked aircraft belonging to our “best friend and only ally in the Middle East” attacked us without warning.

Over 52 years fighter aircraft from our “best friend and only ally in the Middle East” reported the correct nationality of the USS Liberty to their headquarters only to be told to begin their attack.

Over 52 years ago The White House ordered the Sixth Fleet to abandon us while we were still under attack by our “best friend and only ally in the Middle East” and calling for help.

Over 52 years ago attacking elements of our “best friend and only ally in the Middle East” departed the scene immediately after they ceased hostilities only to return 90 minutes later in an obvious attempt to claim they were coming to our help to drive off the forces attacking our ship.

Over 52 years ago the Commander in Chief, US Naval Forces Europe (CINCUSNAVEUR) ADM John S. McCain, Jr., signed a qualified endorsement to a US Navy Court of Inquiry Report that his Legal Advisor, Capt. Merlin Staring, recommend he not sign since it was replete with many gross errors.

Over 52 years ago the attack on the USS Liberty became the only attack on a US Navy ship since the end of World War II NOT to be the subject of a US government investigation.  A mark that stands today despite the attacks on the USS Pueblo, USS Stark, and USS Cole all of which have been investigated by the US government.  Likewise, the USS Vincennes incident and the bombing of the US Marine Barracks in Beirut have been investigated by the US government.  Not so the attack on the USS Liberty.

For over 52 years USS Liberty survivors, our families and the families of our fallen shipmates have been waiting for the announcement that the US government has finally decided to investigate the attack on the USS Liberty.

Instead of being outraged at learning these facts about the attack on our ship as most patriotic Americans are, Mr. Kirk dismisses them as the rantings of a group of “Conspiracy Theorists.”

These are not baseless mutterings of a group of anti-Semitic bigots. Mr. Kirk.

These are proven facts being lived by the victims of Israeli War Crimes that were committed with the tacit approval and active participation of the United States government.

You can read them for yourself.

But you won’t.  Said simply, you don’t give a damn about us.  You don’t give a damn about the facts of the attack on our ship.

Your concern — and the concern of your audience — is for the forces who attacked us.  For those who killed 34 of our shipmates.

34 Americans — like you.

34 Patriotic Americans — unlike you.

You’re in good company, Mr. Kirk.

That is the same concern repeatedly expressed by every Member of Congress for over 52 years.

What you will do is stand behind your microphone and insult the sacrifice of 34 Americans who were killed during the attack on the USS Liberty, the suffering of their families, and the effort of the survivors of the USS Liberty attack to ensure that attack is finally investigated by the US government.

We’re open to an apology from you, Mr. Kirk.  But only if that apology is followed by a  public and ongoing effort from you and your organization to ensure the US government conducts the investigation that has been denied the attack on the USS Liberty for over 52 years.

My email address is [email protected]

We hope you will agree that it was improper for you to single out a military unit for condemnation simply because we were attacked by our “best friend and only ally in the Middle East.”

Respectfully,

Joe Meadors, USS Liberty Survivor
Director of Operations
USS Liberty Veterans Association
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Marietta, GA 30068
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https://usslibertyveterans.blog

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RE: Zionist Conservatism vs Groypers thread (retitled)
Good. The more heat applied the maggots like Kirk, the better. Even better when from an official source like the survivors of The Liberty attack. Much harder to dismiss these guys as "internet crackpots". Might even wake up a few normies.

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(11-01-2019 02:07 PM)John Michael Kane Wrote:  Good. The more heat applied the maggots like Kirk, the better. Even better when from an official source like the survivors of The Liberty attack. Much harder to dismiss these guys as "internet crackpots". Might even wake up a few normies.

Agreed. The Groypers should check out If Americans Knew: What Every American Need to Know About (((Israel/Palestine))) if they want to challenge the speakers at #CultureWar events. The website contained tons of information: history, analysis, maps, origin of conflict, etc.

Edit. I not surprised by this...

"YAF...does not endorse any of the questions..." Rolleyes

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(11-01-2019 12:49 PM)John Michael Kane Wrote:  He's not in-your-face with his homosexuality because he's more of a libertarian than a conservative/leftist. Ironically, that makes him more conservative these days than many in Conservative Inc. I've listened to many of his talks on YouTube, he's crazy smart and tries hard to articulate his thought process before instead of randomly blurting out stuff. He's actually given quite a few interesting talks about the future of where the country is headed due to identity politics and the belief that we don't have a grand future in front of us, is causing us to stop trying ambitious goals.

I started listening to him occasionally on Youtube after he used Hulk Hogan to destroy the cesspool that was Gawker Media. I don't listen to him often, but he certainly is a smart guy and I agree, very libertarian.
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(11-01-2019 12:49 PM)John Michael Kane Wrote:  
(11-01-2019 12:29 PM)Gimlet Wrote:  The only homo I can think of who actually *seems* conservative is Peter Thiel. Perhaps that is why he isn't touted by the msm as a face of "gay conservativism".

He's not in-your-face with his homosexuality because he's more of a libertarian than a conservative/leftist. Ironically, that makes him more conservative these days than many in Conservative Inc. I've listened to many of his talks on YouTube, he's crazy smart and tries hard to articulate his thought process before instead of randomly blurting out stuff. He's actually given quite a few interesting talks about the future of where the country is headed due to identity politics and the belief that we don't have a grand future in front of us, is causing us to stop trying ambitious goals.

Peter Thiel is a huge deal at the CFR. He speaks about more sanity because the CFR and the globalists don't really believe in the trannie stuff. Though libertarians are often for open borders, so that does not help the West either.

Let's face it - everyone who gets the seal of approval and does not get attacked, deplatformed, deleted - he is likely in on it or he is too small to care for now. Peter Thiel is the voice of reason which is actually closer to the globalist thought patterns. However - he is not your friend.

The real alternavites are demonetized and have to do grassroots financing while Charlie Kirk gets money shoved up his liberal ass by billionaires. And even that grassroots financing only works so long as the person or group is not banned off all platforms.

The word conservative has become meaningless by now since you cannot conserve anything anymore. Anyone on the right would have to call himself counter-revolutionairy.
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(11-01-2019 12:10 PM)Knight of Malta Wrote:  The Zionist Organisation of America is asking for Nick to be banned from Twitter.

Israeli interest groups like the ZOA and ADL are actively harassing, smearing, and destroying the lives of American citizens on U.S. soil in the open for merely questioning the nature of America's relationship with Israel (not even opposing the existence of Israel or Zionism itself necessarily), but according to the politicians and the media you are supposed believe that Russian facebook ads are the foreign threat to Americans.



I repeat my previous sentiment to them:

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(11-01-2019 06:27 PM)Simeon_Strangelight Wrote:  
(11-01-2019 12:49 PM)John Michael Kane Wrote:  
(11-01-2019 12:29 PM)Gimlet Wrote:  The only homo I can think of who actually *seems* conservative is Peter Thiel. Perhaps that is why he isn't touted by the msm as a face of "gay conservativism".

He's not in-your-face with his homosexuality because he's more of a libertarian than a conservative/leftist. Ironically, that makes him more conservative these days than many in Conservative Inc. I've listened to many of his talks on YouTube, he's crazy smart and tries hard to articulate his thought process before instead of randomly blurting out stuff. He's actually given quite a few interesting talks about the future of where the country is headed due to identity politics and the belief that we don't have a grand future in front of us, is causing us to stop trying ambitious goals.

Peter Thiel is a huge deal at the CFR. He speaks about more sanity because the CFR and the globalists don't really believe in the trannie stuff. Though libertarians are often for open borders, so that does not help the West either.

Let's face it - everyone who gets the seal of approval and does not get attacked, deplatformed, deleted - he is likely in on it or he is too small to care for now. Peter Thiel is the voice of reason which is actually closer to the globalist thought patterns. However - he is not your friend.

The real alternavites are demonetized and have to do grassroots financing while Charlie Kirk gets money shoved up his liberal ass by billionaires. And even that grassroots financing only works so long as the person or group is not banned off all platforms.

The word conservative has become meaningless by now since you cannot conserve anything anymore. Anyone on the right would have to call himself counter-revolutionairy.

You're right that anyone on the Right had better be ready to have a revolutionary spirit and a zero-compromise mindset, otherwise you're just a member of the co-opted Conservative Inc/Soft Left/Soy Left, etc. Current Conservative Inc is just a slow (and sometimes fast!) negotiation towards ultimate defeat.

I wouldn't describe Thiel as a friend, but that doesn't mean you can't gain insight listening to him think. He's razor-sharp and has IQ off the charts. I don't think he draws the right conclusions a lot of the time, but he's extremely insightful as to why things are the way they are.

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(10-31-2019 05:05 PM)Roosh Wrote:  
(10-31-2019 03:40 PM)Wutang Wrote:  Is Crowder next?

I will guess that Crowder will just yell at those who challenge him. He's only used to debating with liberals, not conservatives.

He lost big when he debated college conservative Yousef for "Socialism is Evil - Change My Mind" and fell back on physical intimidation and then pulled rank while whining about being called autistic.



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(10-31-2019 01:23 PM)Gimlet Wrote:  
(10-31-2019 11:38 AM)Simeon_Strangelight Wrote:  Conservatives 2019:

+ trannies with Trump hats
+ homosexuals with lip-service commitments to "conservative values"

Conservatives 2016 thought this was just a funny joke done by a man (who just so happened to be a homosexual) worthy of respect and leadership:

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Milo is disgusting. I tried to follow him on different apps for a couple of years and he constantly talked about sex with his BF, with me dropping him on each social media one by one until they were all gone. Whatever his strengths, he can not be a leader.
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(11-01-2019 08:52 PM)Tom Slick Wrote:  He lost big when he debated college conservative Yousef for "Socialism is Evil - Change My Mind" and fell back on physical intimidation and then pulled rank while whining about being called autistic.




I still remember when Rogan was busting his balls over legalized Marijuana. Crowder tried to pull some passive aggressive shit on him. Rogan just doubled down and started egging him on even harder. Crowder then proceeded to get butt hurt and melt down in front of millions of listeners.

Rogan is a liberal centrist with some retarded takes but there's no doubt that he's legit. A legitimate comedian does not lose their shit when someone busts their balls a little bit.

Crowder is fake and his popularity is propped up by the establishment. He's friends with the likes of Shapiro. Shapiro cross promotes him often on the Ben Shapiro show.

There is something inherently cowardly about Crowder that I detect too. The real life pussy radar pings off the charts with this guy. If you've ever gotten into a real life fight with guys who behave like this then you know what I mean.

You can always sort of suss out how these guys are because they puff out their chests big time when they think they can intimidate someone weaker (like Yousef) but when it actually comes time to throw fists they almost always get wrecked.
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(11-01-2019 08:57 PM)Tom Slick Wrote:  Milo is disgusting. I tried to follow him on different apps for a couple of years and he constantly talked about sex with his BF, with me dropping him on each social media one by one until they were all gone. Whatever his strengths, he can not be a leader.

I remember when he was still on twitter. It was almost always constant pics of wads of cash, jewelry or clothes, and places he's been. He also constantly talks about all the black cock he takes on a daily basis.

He's a gross degenerate. I feel embaressed for even admitting to have watched any of his talks back then.

These days I simply do not trust fags on the right at all.

This goes for Andy Ngo too. Fags are inherently narcissistic and untrustworthy...sort of like a certain cosmopolitan tribe of people who uses them a lot as political proxies. It's part of their psychological make up and this behavior is really a part of homosexuality.
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has just been suspended.

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Meanwhile...the entire Groyper Army - including Scott Greer @ScottMGreer - went on a full attack against Ian Miles Cheong @stillgray and Will Chamberlain.






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On Tucker Carlson Tonight, Rich Lowry just defended the concept of nationalism by pointing out that’s what the people of Israel did in the Bible. I have never heard anything even close to this from any mainstream media pundit, and the fact that he’s drawing this parallel on nationally syndicated TV means the conversation has drastically changed. The banner during his segment read “America Is Not An Idea, But A Nation.”

It seems the spell has finally been broken.

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I'm just waiting for Tucker to be #metoo'ed or some other accusation against him that can't be proven to be false. He's discussing things that the (((special people))) don't like to be talked about.

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RE: Zionist Conservatism vs Groypers thread (retitled)
As israeli, sometimes i can't believe how many lies people still spread this days.

Most of "AID" that is given allows israel to buy Army equipment ONLY from the US.

I was always strong fan of canceling this aid, instead of israel manufacturing this equipment on their land, we give job force to US factories, instead of opening factories and giving people jobs, we giving it to USA.
If you cancel the AID, it will only harm the US, leaving one of biggest clients out.
For Israeli Lobby, it is indeed strong in the US. But it come ONLY from from jews who were born in the US and become up rich. How a normal israeli can influence US? seriously.
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RE: Zionist Conservatism vs Groypers thread (retitled)
Give me enough money to buy your car.

Obviously that's a great deal for you, since you'll get all your money back and I'll have another car.

God demands of Man responsibility. God demands of Woman vulnerability. These are their curse and blessing alike. Libertianism is to Man as Feminism is to Woman.
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