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RE: Zionist Conservatism vs Groypers thread (retitled)
(11-02-2019 12:54 AM)MichaelWitcoff Wrote:  “What’s a few billion dollars a year during a time of skyrocketing American homelessness, opioid overdoses, and suicide rates?”

I agree with you that things don’t seem to change much.

And by the way, I’m full-blooded Ashkenazi. If you’re genuinely curious about why everyone seems to hate us, re-read your last few posts and take a look at your own behavior. It’s a very simple phenomenon to understand.

That's what decades of lobbying and concentrated interest groups and billions of money in influence peddling are for. Senators can be influenced sometimes by 200k and they have been doing that for a long time.

It's akin to big pharma and big chemical companies letting the government pay to subsidize their high-fructose-corn-syrop and their soy production - most of it for export. And they sell this as "feeding the poor". Yeah - how could we all survive without that toxic syrop and soy-sauce in Asia? Tens of billions well-spent indeed....

Israel inc. is like a corporation - and a monopoly on that market. They have their PR agencies - even their secret service agencies and double-agents working at all levels. It's really amazing to witness that - especially when you see how they effectively control both sides of the agenda.





Since they are conserving liberalism, then in 10 years they too will be for trannie library hour and in 30 years they will be for the sexual choice of transgenerational sex. Those pedos were born this way and little Susie has a right for sex too - those are the conservative values that we stand for - not like the evil progressives who will by then be all for corpse-banging and monetized snaff-sex.

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RE: Zionist Conservatism vs Groypers thread (retitled)
(11-02-2019 01:31 AM)jorge1 Wrote:  Chinto, this is all lies, like that jews drinking blood of kids, you must believe in that too no?

John, Afghanistan? Relly? Show me proof.
On iraq i agree
For us saying victim claim, non of it justify killing of millions, you are modern anti semitic.

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(11-01-2019 10:18 PM)El Chinito loco Wrote:  
(11-01-2019 08:57 PM)Tom Slick Wrote:  Milo is disgusting. I tried to follow him on different apps for a couple of years and he constantly talked about sex with his BF, with me dropping him on each social media one by one until they were all gone. Whatever his strengths, he can not be a leader.

I remember when he was still on twitter. It was almost always constant pics of wads of cash, jewelry or clothes, and places he's been. He also constantly talks about all the black cock he takes on a daily basis.

He's a gross degenerate. I feel embaressed for even admitting to have watched any of his talks back then.

These days I simply do not trust fags on the right at all.

This goes for Andy Ngo too. Fags are inherently narcissistic and untrustworthy...sort of like a certain cosmopolitan tribe of people who uses them a lot as political proxies. It's part of their psychological make up and this behavior is really a part of homosexuality.

QFT

Just want to say one thing, Nick Fuentes has been pushing the idea of a big tent for true conservatives lately, but I do not think there is any room there for Milo because he's so unstable and can not restrain himself from busting out with comments like the one you mentioned, "He also constantly talks about all the black cock he takes on a daily basis," which is almost as repulsive as when he lionizes himself when taking questions at his events.

That said, look at how Nick handles things like this, if they don't attack him and they're friendly, then don't go after him. Also Mark Collett, who said he made the mistake when young to go after people he thought were feds or false, but learned they will eventually out themselves and you avoid the internal side-splitting of going after someone without solid proof, which is just the kind of drama they want to stir up.

While Nick probably wouldn't want to openly go after Milo because of his popularity, groypers can do it just the way they have been to Kirk and Crowder. Milo can be shamed out pretty much the way Dave Reilly did to Kirk/Rob Smith the other night with the anal sex question. If they have any claim to Christianity, their position is indefensible, look how Rob Smith started pouting on stage. Milo would take longer, multiple events, but politely pointed questions about him promoting his sin could start the avalanche.

He needs to get out of the spotlight for a while anyway, along with another unstable person that struggles with this topic because of too many years in Hollyweird and other influences.

Don't mean to be moralizing, just realistic: no queers in positions of influence.

Haven't seen anything questionable from Andy Ngo yet, but only seen his national release type stuff. Unrelated to the main point here, but not crazy about Tim Pool either, and yet these are the two most visible, most vocal people against antifa. Just sayin.
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RE: Zionist Conservatism vs Groypers thread (retitled)
I don't think jorge1 is acting in bad faith necessarily.

Based on my knowledge of the country and my interactions and conversations with the many Israelis I met during my travels, they deserve compassion.

People often forget that for your average citizen, life in Israel sucks.
Big time.

What most of them have in common is that they are Jewish.
On paper, at least.

The people themselves have almost nothing in common, they immigrated from all corners of the world, coming from all kinds of cultures, speaking all kinds of languages. It's a completely artificial entity made out of countless ethnicities, nationalities, religious groups.

And they all secretly or not so secretly can't stand each other.
Annoy each other.
Despise each other.
Hate each other.

The only thing keeping the country together is the national myth that everyone else on this planet hates them even more than they hate each other.

And this siege mentality is enforced by constant propaganda, otherwise there would be no Israel.

It's a bit like one of these dystopian sci-fi novels where a bunch of random people are living shitty lives in an underground bunker and their privileged elites tell them that they can't leave, that it's not safe to go outside because there's too much radiation, or flesh eating bacteria, or what have you. Best to remain in safety, and thus in servitude.

Lots of young Israelis feel some resentment for their parents, subconsciously blaming them for having to live in Israel.

Just imagine, instead of enjoying a blissful youth in the cafes of Paris, or the clubs of Moscow or the cosmopolitan splendor of New York, they've been condemned to a harsh life in a frontier state, some Middle Eastern dust bowl that is steeped in ancient racial and religious hatred, having to fight an endless insurrection and a never ending war against their neighbors.

In the minds of many young Israelis their parents or grandparents had it all, a good life in a peaceful, maybe even prosperous and wealthy country, and threw it all away.

For what?

For some vain ideology and false dreams pushed by the political machinations of some fat cats in Europe and America who were following their religious delusions. Those wealthy Jewish elites who roped others into fulfilling their ambitions for them, those elites who to this day are not living in Israel, who are not putting the lives of their own children on the line, who are not the ones having to bleed and suffer and die in order for the great vision to come true.

So as a parent, how could you possibly justify that to your children?
The answer to that brings us back to the national myth mentioned above and relentless domestic propaganda.

The truth is that half of Israel would leave the country in an instant and emigrate to greener pastures, if only they had a chance. But most of them are stuck.

Which is intentional. They have a purpose to serve.

Now imagine you're a young Israeli wishing to take a break from this whole mess and you go on some internet forum.

You discover that people there are saying that your country secretly pulls the strings and rules the world.
But you know from your own life experience that your country is a minor shit hole and that you sure as hell don't rule anything.

Those people blame your people for all kinds of evil.
But you know that your life sucks and is a constant struggle, and that is how it is for your friends and family and everyone else you know.

Who would even have the time or energy to concoct any kind of evil plans or sinister global schemes under those circumstances?
Not you and not anyone you know of, that's for sure.

So the only conclusion left is that your politicians, and your religious leaders and the generations who built this country before you were right about everything.

The goyim hate you for absolutely no reason and it's you against the world.



When the truth is, of course, that your average Israeli got screwed over by his elites just as much as the average American.
Just another pawn on the chess board of his rulers.

So as I said earlier, they too deserve compassion.
Keep that in mind.
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(11-02-2019 08:15 AM)Tom Slick Wrote:  Just want to say one thing, Nick Fuentes has been pushing the idea of a big tent for true conservatives lately, but I do not think there is any room there for Milo because he's so unstable and can not restrain himself from busting out with comments like the one you mentioned, "He also constantly talks about all the black cock he takes on a daily basis," which is almost as repulsive as when he lionizes himself when taking questions at his events.

Don't underestimate Fuentes. He's a pretty smart kid and I do believe he means what he says particularly when it comes to religious conservatism. He memes a lot and jokes around but I actually don't doubt his sincerity at this point at least.

He did sacrifice a whole career laid at his feet. With the name Fuentes and the "optics" of mainstream neoconservatism he could have shot straight to the top of the zionist grifter money pile

I don't think he actually likes Milo but he sees strategic value in using fags like Milo to further the goal of shifting the overton window away from neocon nonsense. Milo is pretty smart and knows this as well so right now there's a symbiosis there. However, I agree with you 100% ultimately fags are detrimental.


Quote:Haven't seen anything questionable from Andy Ngo yet, but only seen his national release type stuff. Unrelated to the main point here, but not crazy about Tim Pool either, and yet these are the two most visible, most vocal people against antifa. Just sayin.

I simply don't believe Andy Ngo's sincerity. He's a weird vietnamese-american fag with a Christ complex. He goes out there to get beaten and abused but it's a part of gay narcissism to always be at the center of attention. This is especially true if he's a sexual degenerate (which most fags are) and he gets little attention otherwise.

His relative minority status earns him accolades and status.

I know some people like Malkin have come to his defense but i'm telling you right now I don't think Ngo is legit at all. I understand asians on both the left and right end of the spectrum really well and there are certain "characteristics" about him that makes me think he's a complete phony.

The only thing I can say about Ngo for certain is that he probably has severe mental issues to begin with.


edit: With all that being said. I think Fuentes is still a very corruptible figure. He's a very young man. There are endless bounties that can be offered to him to flip him if they can't beat him. I expect at some point if they can't beat him on the rhetoric point they will flip him straight up with cash or pussy. That is how it is done. Just be aware of this. There are no incorruptible figures and if the tune starts to change we will know he was turned.
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(11-02-2019 08:17 AM)Belgrano Wrote:  The truth is that half of Israel would leave the country in an instant and emigrate to greener pastures, if only they had a chance. But most of them are stuck.

Sorry I don't believe this garbage at all. I also want to highlight this particular point.

A lot of Israelis are dual nationals of the E.U., North America, or elsewhere. They can easily take the next flight out and start a whole new life. I would say that upwards of 50%+ of Israelis can easily claim or reclaim foreign nationality.

Israel is also not a poor country. It is rather affluent even when compared with non white developed nations.

The idea that Israelis are stuck in some limbo is hilarious. They are protected by the largest human shield (golem) in the world on top of the nukes and other advanced weaponry they have stockpiled over the decades. Just google the Samson option as to what the plans are when and if they are over run.

This "muh poor Jews" rhetoric is dishonest and quite lame to be honest.
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(11-02-2019 04:55 AM)911 Wrote:  
(11-02-2019 01:31 AM)jorge1 Wrote:  Chinto, this is all lies, like that jews drinking blood of kids, you must believe in that too no?

John, Afghanistan? Relly? Show me proof.
On iraq i agree
For us saying victim claim, non of it justify killing of millions, you are modern anti semitic.

Do you like to dance?

The best dancers in the world really.

They can really impress especially when the huge two goyim back up dancers overhead collapse from exhaustion.
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RE: Zionist Conservatism vs Groypers thread (retitled)
Belgrano, WoW, LoLllll.
I never heard bunch of crap like this long long looong time.
You know what i love about you guys, some of you claim to know about israel, but you don't know shit. Like really?

The only right thing was that israel is not strong as people might think.
Reality check - israel is small country surrounded by enemies, who were attacked by them all over the decades, multiple times. and somehow managed to survive forces way greater then her with no help of anyone else, could you even imgaine what would happan if the arabs managed to destroy israel after the holoucast, what would remain of jews? Nothing. But when people fight because there is nothing more to lose and this small land is all you have, we won. And that what happens today in any young israeli mind.
We know israel is tiny, everything imported so everything is expansive, we are not super power, we don't have much land, we have many problems, but we got each other and even though its small. Its what we got.
So as morality we are strong, but as actual country we not, a lot of taxes, life is hard for individuals.
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(11-02-2019 09:51 AM)jorge1 Wrote:  Belgrano, WoW, LoLllll.
I never heard bunch of crap like this long long looong time.
You know what i love about you guys, some of you claim to know about israel, but you don't know shit. Like really?

The only right thing was that israel is not strong as people might think.
Reality check - israel is small country surrounded by enemies, who were attacked by them all over the decades, multiple times. and somehow managed to survive forces way greater then her with no help of anyone else, could you even imgaine what would happan if the arabs managed to destroy israel after the holoucast, what would remain of jews? Nothing. But when people fight because there is nothing more to lose and this small land is all you have, we won. And that what happens today in any young israeli mind.
We know israel is tiny, everything imported so everything is expansive, we are not super power, we don't have much land, we have many problems, but we got each other and even though its small. Its what we got.
So as morality we are strong, but as actual country we not, a lot of taxes, life is hard for individuals.

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^^ Yeah unfortunately I think I wasted time on this troll too.

There's no way a large portion of Israelis wouldn't know what is going on with their lobbies and foreign policy.

I'm sure there they have their retards as well (Jacob Wohl) but the tribe knows for sure.
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Its funny that you tell how israelis are like you are wise, but if one does not agree with you, he is troll.
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(11-02-2019 10:19 AM)jorge1 Wrote:  Its funny that you tell how israelis are like you are wise, but if one does not agree with you, he is troll.

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Kirk slipped a false premise past his questioner.

The whole idea of reducing military aid to a financial question is ridiculous and yet effective with people in the U.S. because we have internalized the idea that positive effects in the market justify anything.

If you accept his frame, then now you are talking about whether or not Americans are making money from Israel's wars, when you should be talking about the morality of the wars themselves.

Put plainly it is ridiculous.

Who cares who made money?

Was the war just or not?

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More like he didn't get an answer to respond, and the assumption made is so ridiculously obvious that it can only blow up in Kirk's face. Kirk fails to perceive that the grassroots has wholesale rejected the Neocon war ideology and consequently has miscalibrated his response.
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This guy wrecks all of the talking points of Charlie Kirk and his gay black friend. Banana



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(10-31-2019 07:46 PM)El Chinito loco Wrote:  How does anyone watch Crowder? he's such a smug faggot who immediately melts down when challenged by anyone that even has a semblance of having balls.

He emanates gay vibes and apparently has no kids even though he's been married for years. His "wife" is probably his beard and not unusual considering how every other person involved with ziocon inc is some sort of fag.

Owen Benjamin did a perfect video analysis about how much a fag Steven Crowder is. Not only is Steven Crowder a fag on camera but in real life he is a complete asshole and has to emasculate his colleagues because he deeply hides in the closet.

He threatened to sue Owen because Owen called him gay. hahahaha

I recommend watching the video

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Im happy that these fake conservative are being exposed. None of them spout real conservatives values but actively push faggotry. Weird part is that they all got some token gay black guy
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(11-02-2019 08:58 AM)El Chinito loco Wrote:  
(11-02-2019 08:17 AM)Belgrano Wrote:  The truth is that half of Israel would leave the country in an instant and emigrate to greener pastures, if only they had a chance. But most of them are stuck.

Sorry I don't believe this garbage at all. I also want to highlight this particular point.

A lot of Israelis are dual nationals of the E.U., North America, or elsewhere. They can easily take the next flight out and start a whole new life. I would say that upwards of 50%+ of Israelis can easily claim or reclaim foreign nationality.

Israel is also not a poor country. It is rather affluent even when compared with non white developed nations.

The idea that Israelis are stuck in some limbo is hilarious. They are protected by the largest human shield (golem) in the world on top of the nukes and other advanced weaponry they have stockpiled over the decades. Just google the Samson option as to what the plans are when and if they are over run.

This "muh poor Jews" rhetoric is dishonest and quite lame to be honest.

Its worth repeating what Belgrano said.

I've met a lot of Jewish people all over the world. They all hate living in Israel. It may be affluent, protected, have preferred status in international affairs..
But for all these right wing, left wing, middle-of-the-road Jewish people it is one thing: Claustrophobic. Massively Claustrophobic.

Staying by accident in a Jewish hotel in Pattaya was an eye-opener for me.. some of the rudest, most miserable and unhappy rich-kids I have ever met. And they all seem to hate each other.

The rich and powerful Jews I have met around the world from Manhattan or South Africa hold up Israel as their cherished cause: but they too admit they couldn't live there for long even when they have tried their best to.
They had to relocate.
Because in their words everybody is watching everybody and they're surrounded by their own kind and it just gets really boring and shit and claustrophobic after a while.
Also - its not a natural country, its an unnatural intellectual experiment much like Apartheid South Africa --- which was full, by its end, of alcoholism, incest, corruption and all manner of spiritual malaise amongst its constitutionally coddled Uber-mensch. Because the whole premise was weird.

In contrast to all that, Thailand, London, Rome, New York - thats where the juice is for them, the fun, the adventure, the LIFE..

They can always run and hide there in Israel when they have to (like the Ukrainian and Russian Oligarchs) and they definitely want to end their days in the good hospitals there and get buried there.. but they just cant LIVE there for too long.

Its not unlike rich African potentates or Brunei/Saudi sheikhs: they cant wait to get home, and once there then they cant wait to leave again as soon as possible.
And they cringe at and put down their fellow countrymen, just as their fellow countrymen cringe at and compete with them.

It may be Uber-protected and Uber-wealthy but in terms of actually wanting to live there compared to all the other possible destinations in the west..
Israel remains a shithole.
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A good one for Sproutface:



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He's posted 10+ Tweets against degeneracy and mass migration since this. Nothing on Israel yet.
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Great stuff from EMJ and Dave Reilly (kid who asked Charlie about anal sex).

In light of a subpar Trump administration, Zoomers are waking up to what modern "conservatism" really values:

-corporations
-homosexuality
-usury

Inspiring to see them rebelling instead of shutting down and becoming blackpilled. Feels like 2016 again.



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(11-02-2019 02:24 PM)Bienvenuto Wrote:  
(11-02-2019 08:58 AM)El Chinito loco Wrote:  
(11-02-2019 08:17 AM)Belgrano Wrote:  The truth is that half of Israel would leave the country in an instant and emigrate to greener pastures, if only they had a chance. But most of them are stuck.

Sorry I don't believe this garbage at all. I also want to highlight this particular point.

A lot of Israelis are dual nationals of the E.U., North America, or elsewhere. They can easily take the next flight out and start a whole new life. I would say that upwards of 50%+ of Israelis can easily claim or reclaim foreign nationality.

Israel is also not a poor country. It is rather affluent even when compared with non white developed nations.

The idea that Israelis are stuck in some limbo is hilarious. They are protected by the largest human shield (golem) in the world on top of the nukes and other advanced weaponry they have stockpiled over the decades. Just google the Samson option as to what the plans are when and if they are over run.

This "muh poor Jews" rhetoric is dishonest and quite lame to be honest.

Its worth repeating what Belgrano said.

I've met a lot of Jewish people all over the world. They all hate living in Israel. It may be affluent, protected, have preferred status in international affairs..
But for all these right wing, left wing, middle-of-the-road Jewish people it is one thing: Claustrophobic. Massively Claustrophobic.

Let's assume that there is some merit in the idea that a lot of Israelis are miserable living in their ethnostate.

Here are my feelings about this..

why should I give a flying fuck.

I don't lose sleep at night at the idea of a vulture pecking at the back of an African toddler's head because he didn't get his daily allotment of UN porridge.

I certainly am not losing sleep over some Israeli kid who is undergoing some existential crisis over not having all his mazlow's hierarchy of needs fulfilled in his prized ethno state which is propped up on the backs of American taxpayers.

There's a lot of bad shit that happens in the world and Israelis have it on easy mode considering the circumstances. They should be thanking Moloch every day for delivering such a nice piece of land and so many willing shabbos goy to fight and die for their people.

Noone said running an ethnostate would be easy. They can either stand on their own two feet or fuck right off.

The idea that anyone outside of Israel should care about the fragile emotions of Jews is one of the most insufferable things about how the west panders towards Israel.
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Groyper is such a funny word.

It is totally hilarious to have to say that you stand against groypers. It will be fun to hear some talking heads on TV warn against the groyper threat.

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(11-02-2019 02:24 PM)Bienvenuto Wrote:  
(11-02-2019 08:58 AM)El Chinito loco Wrote:  
(11-02-2019 08:17 AM)Belgrano Wrote:  The truth is that half of Israel would leave the country in an instant and emigrate to greener pastures, if only they had a chance. But most of them are stuck.

Sorry I don't believe this garbage at all. I also want to highlight this particular point.

A lot of Israelis are dual nationals of the E.U., North America, or elsewhere. They can easily take the next flight out and start a whole new life. I would say that upwards of 50%+ of Israelis can easily claim or reclaim foreign nationality.

Israel is also not a poor country. It is rather affluent even when compared with non white developed nations.

The idea that Israelis are stuck in some limbo is hilarious. They are protected by the largest human shield (golem) in the world on top of the nukes and other advanced weaponry they have stockpiled over the decades. Just google the Samson option as to what the plans are when and if they are over run.

This "muh poor Jews" rhetoric is dishonest and quite lame to be honest.

Its worth repeating what Belgrano said.

I've met a lot of Jewish people all over the world. They all hate living in Israel. It may be affluent, protected, have preferred status in international affairs..
But for all these right wing, left wing, middle-of-the-road Jewish people it is one thing: Claustrophobic. Massively Claustrophobic.

Staying by accident in a Jewish hotel in Pattaya was an eye-opener for me.. some of the rudest, most miserable and unhappy rich-kids I have ever met. And they all seem to hate each other.

The rich and powerful Jews I have met around the world from Manhattan or South Africa hold up Israel as their cherished cause: but they too admit they couldn't live there for long even when they have tried their best to.
They had to relocate.
Because in their words everybody is watching everybody and they're surrounded by their own kind and it just gets really boring and shit and claustrophobic after a while.
Also - its not a natural country, its an unnatural intellectual experiment much like Apartheid South Africa --- which was full, by its end, of alcoholism, incest, corruption and all manner of spiritual malaise amongst its constitutionally coddled Uber-mensch. Because the whole premise was weird.

In contrast to all that, Thailand, London, Rome, New York - thats where the juice is for them, the fun, the adventure, the LIFE..

They can always run and hide there in Israel when they have to (like the Ukrainian and Russian Oligarchs) and they definitely want to end their days in the good hospitals there and get buried there.. but they just cant LIVE there for too long.

Its not unlike rich African potentates or Brunei/Saudi sheikhs: they cant wait to get home, and once there then they cant wait to leave again as soon as possible.
And they cringe at and put down their fellow countrymen, just as their fellow countrymen cringe at and compete with them.

It may be Uber-protected and Uber-wealthy but in terms of actually wanting to live there compared to all the other possible destinations in the west..
Israel remains a shithole.

One Jewish guy put it well - it's a low-trust country created by low-trust people. They may be higher IQ than the usual low-trust countries, but it does not make it better. The Israelis I know hate living there and when I told him that a friend of mine married an Israeli and moved there (a shiksa), they said: "Condolences!"

It's no surprise really - the predatory nature of Judaism just creates not overly hospitable places compared to the Christian or Buddhist/Shintoist places.
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National IQ in Israel isnt as high as you would think. Ashkenazi IQ is high, but the Jews with origins in the ME are quite a bit lower plus there is the arab population.
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(11-02-2019 08:17 AM)Belgrano Wrote:  Just imagine, instead of enjoying a blissful youth in the cafes of Paris, or the clubs of Moscow or the cosmopolitan splendor of New York, they've been condemned to a harsh life in a frontier state, some Middle Eastern dust bowl that is steeped in ancient racial and religious hatred, having to fight an endless insurrection and a never ending war against their neighbors.

Well, to be fair the weather is great and they have some the best beaches around. Far from a dust bowl, that part of the world is indeed blessed with the best weather on the planet.
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This reflexive rhetoric that if you're not happy or question being a Shabbos goy slave then you must be an anti-semite that wants to lampshade 6 gorrilion Jews is annoying.

"The Jew cries out in pain as he strikes you"
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The indoctrinated siege mentality and superiority complex is something to behold.

I don't want to be adversaries of these people but their actions and intent just cannot be tolerated lest they destroy this world and enslave us all.

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