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(10-31-2019 01:31 PM)BlastbeatCasanova Wrote:  Roosh, do your thing, unless I misstep and get banned I’ll continue to post when I feel that I can add info, an anecdote, or some value.

However, with the state of the sexual marketplace, with the direction of this forum and resources like Heartiste getting shut down, I think young men coming up are going to suffer big time. The modern church does not teach men how to deal with women, or even how to become men. I hope things turn around and that I’m wrong

I agree with you, and all other the voices above decrying the closure of the Game Thread.

We are now moving off topic, which is the new rule against blasphemy. However, Roosh, with your answer above regarding the book sales, you have hoisted yourself on your own petard. I'm not trying to be disrespectful, nor, indeed, do I disagree with you. Rather, I recognise that game is essential to meeting women, establishing and sustaining a relationship. By all means, keep selling your books, but why get rid of the Game section? What's "Game" anyway, other than an understanding of interpersonal relationships, informed by gender-based sexual selection techniques?


We live in an age with few masculine role models, and with male sexuality being restricted as much as possible while all restraints on female sexuality are loosened (hat tip to Heartiste). GAME IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN EVER.

I urge you not to throw the baby out with the bath water. Many men might come here looking for answers, and find solutions in the most unlikely of places.
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(10-31-2019 02:06 PM)Handsome Creepy Eel Wrote:  
(10-31-2019 12:42 PM)Roosh Wrote:  
(10-31-2019 11:14 AM)Horus Wrote:  I feel sad.

I understand. For many men, including myself, RVF was the Bible in traveling and fornication. There was no other resource like it. You'd visit several times a day to get ideas and advice for living the lifestyle you believed was correct, and I was extremely proud that I had made a community where men could bond from that.

I have no way of proving this, of course, but I strongly believe that a vast majority of your readers (mis)used your advice simply to find a nice girlfriend and settle down rather than for fornication. The super-degenerate mass fornicators have always been maybe 1% of the membership.

There is no "good" fornication. Fornication is polygamous by nature, so people try to invent things like "LTR" desperately trying to emulate engagement/marriage within the completely evil context. Obviously the concept itself doesn't even work, people switch partners all the time as expected.

It gets really ridiculous, when people try to apply the sin of "adultery" to their fornication, pretending they are adhering to some moral code. They don't even realize that you cannot sin against sin.
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(10-31-2019 09:57 AM)Roosh Wrote:  
(10-31-2019 09:34 AM)BortimusPrime Wrote:  It's ironic that accepting Jesus would cause this forum to go to hell.

One week ban. Next statement like this and you will be permanent banned.

I don't know how to make clear over the past few months that atheist fornicators are not welcome here, and should lurk instead, because your beliefs may change in the future to the point where you want to participate. But if you get banned, it's permanent.

Was he an atheist fornicator? I don't know about his posting history.
I'm a Catholic and enjoy irony in all forms, especially when it's aimed at me. I got a chuckle out of his comment, didn't sense any malice behind it

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(10-31-2019 01:31 PM)BlastbeatCasanova Wrote:  Roosh, do your thing, unless I misstep and get banned I’ll continue to post when I feel that I can add info, an anecdote, or some value.

However, with the state of the sexual marketplace, with the direction of this forum and resources like Heartiste getting shut down, I think young men coming up are going to suffer big time. The modern church does not teach men how to deal with women, or even how to become men. I hope things turn around and that I’m wrong

What is the "modern church". If you are a Protestant Christian, like I am, WE ARE THE CHURCH.

Volunteer in your church with young adult and teenage men's groups, give them real talk and deal with being kicked out by some cuck deacon if need be.

Even with Catholics, who have the most excuse to blame a nebulous "modern church" there are some rebelling and teaching biblical values.

If you aren't a Catholic, Martin Luther was branded a Heretic by his "modern church"

Even if you are a member of a more 'soft' church, most men that volunteer there will move out of the way for a man with just a patchy beard and one testicle that puts off a challenge in their midst.

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(10-31-2019 12:42 PM)Roosh Wrote:  But RVF was not the Bible. It was a false road that allowed you to abuse yourself and others around you while rebelling against God. If you feel sad now, imagine how I feel in having created one of the most degenerate communities on Earth. I must turn away from that without delay. I don't expect you to understand this, or even to follow me from this point on, but I'm so relieved that a creation of mine is not being actively used to go against God's will.

I think you're too harsh on yourself here. The community, for what I've seen in my limited time (including lurking in the past and reading the archives), wasn't entirely focused on sexual activity alone - or, to put it differently and more precisely, sexuality was just a means to an end, a part of the whole process of regaining one's masculinity, becoming goal-oriented and properly setting one's frame of mind. And even if we only take sexuality into account, the community promoted normal, heterosexual acts, which is a far cry from what nowadays could be called true "degeneracy".

Besides, since you've had an epiphany, there's a possiblity that those following your past advice might have one as well. Youth has its own laws and behavior, and wisdom comes with age, so people are going to change just as you have changed, eventually getting tired of "bangs" and finding the need of spirituality in their lives. Could argue that this process could be left to happen organically, ie. without outside pressure by regulation and rules, but it's your forum and your sandbox. All I wanted to say that your "legacy" has a net-positive influence. Maybe it's been God's plan all along for you to go that path, and as we know He favors repented sinners more than fanatics born and raised.

Thanks for letting others in on your journey.
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(10-31-2019 02:50 PM)dAversa Wrote:  I think you're too harsh on yourself here. The community, for what I've seen in my limited time (including lurking in the past and reading the archives), wasn't entirely focused on sexual activity alone - or, to put it differently and more precisely, sexuality was just a means to an end, a part of the whole process of regaining one's masculinity, becoming goal-oriented and properly setting one's frame of mind. And even if we only take sexuality into account, the community promoted normal, heterosexual acts, which is a far cry from what nowadays could be called true "degeneracy".

While I agree with your generally uplifting outlook, I have to disagree with your classification of "normal, heterosexual acts".

What started in 1963 was just about "getting a little naughty heterosexually". Right? But it gets you on slippery slope opening the doors to Hell and it is spiritually damaging. And once people become fornicators, they start accepting "true" degeneracy as a consequence, when enough spiritual damage has been done.

The reason why Poland is withstanding LGBTQ+ cancer so well, is because fornication isn't so widespread there yet. Most people don't understand this correlation, they don't make the connection. Especially atheists believe it's a matter of policy. It isn't, it's a strictly spiritual matter.

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(10-31-2019 03:06 PM)wwtl Wrote:  What started in 1963 was just about "getting a little naughty heterosexually". Right? But it gets you on slippery slope opening the doors to Hell and it is spiritually damaging. And once people become fornicators, they start accepting "true" degeneracy as a consequence, when enough spiritual damage has been done.

You're right when it comes to the general population, the masses and the effects of sexual revolution, widely accessible pornography and demand for acceptation of deviants. Consumers want to consume and don't concern themselves with the effects their consumption has.

Though, this forum isn't a porn mag, a journalistic rag on Soros' payroll or a TV show open to everyone with cable. Its target group is much smaller; it's meant for men who voluntarily come here and genuinely wish to change something and learn new things. You're here longer than me - do you know of any long-time, established members who have went deeper through the rabbit hole, became true degenerates experimenting with sexual paraphilias? How many started to accept transsexualism, homosexualism? I'd make a bet and say that even if there are any, they're extreme minority. Yet, for reasonable people, sex is just a small part of life, and they've learned to use this part as a stepping stone to improve themselves as men. Roosh gives an example that a downward spiral can be reversed.

I agree with you when it comes to the wider scope of things. There's no lack of temptations in life and most don't even attempt to fight them. Spirituality is neglected, dismissed and discarded worldwide in favor of pursuit of capital or pleasure.
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The underrated part of all this is self control.

Or what one person’s faith can do.

The culture is in decline...all around you is the clown world.

And the best way to beat it Is individual men saying “no”.

In this case...the forum is saying “yes” to God. “No” to clown world.

Imagine if a majority of men made that choice.
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(10-31-2019 03:17 PM)dAversa Wrote:  Though, this forum isn't a porn mag, a journalistic rag on Soros' payroll or a TV show open to everyone with cable. Its target group is much smaller; it's meant for men who voluntarily come here and genuinely wish to change something and learn new things. You're here longer than me - do you know of any long-time, established members who have went deeper through the rabbit hole, became true degenerates experimenting with sexual paraphilias? I'd make a bet and say that even if there are any, they're extreme minority. Yet, for reasonable people, sex is just a small part of life, and they've learned to use this part as a stepping stone to improve themselves as men. Roosh gives an example that a downward spiral can be reversed.

I don't think we would ever see admittance of more degeneracy on a strictly heterosexual forum. People will silently move on into more degenerate places, once they for example became a furry.

From a wider scope all the degenerate excesses with people reproducing porn in their bedrooms and so-called "anal sex" becoming a standard practice is a result of what started with bog standard fornication aka that "harmless" pre-martial vanilla sex.

That's the issue: You can't have "just a little bit evil" to acquire a spouse and then expect ending up in a working marriage relationship with happy children. Instead Satan will use every leverage he has destroy to you and your family, once you opened the door for him. But making those atheists understand that evil even exists...
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Gentlemen, stop being shocked by the constant recent changes of this forum. Roosh has already stated that it would be a gradual change to something else that's more Christian faith months ago. It's his site he can do as he sees fit.

Some of you are acting like there isn't an identical site built just like this forum already. Just go there for your questions regarding 'Game'. That site is young but it's growing. And I agree that game is a necessary tool when dealing with women.

Funny thing is the massive change of the forum this year is what brought me here. I will still commentate here and there to prevent men from making an unnecessary financial risk known as marriage.
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(10-31-2019 03:58 PM)SilentOne Wrote:  Funny thing is the massive change of the forum this year is what brought me here. I will still commentate here and there to prevent men from making an unnecessary financial risk known as marriage.

But only until the forum rules get changed again and denouncing God's covenant between husband and wife gets you banned as well.

Well...on a second look: The blasphemy rule is good enough for that already.
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(10-31-2019 04:03 PM)wwtl Wrote:  
(10-31-2019 03:58 PM)SilentOne Wrote:  Funny thing is the massive change of the forum this year is what brought me here. I will still commentate here and there to prevent men from making an unnecessary financial risk known as marriage.

But only until the forum rules get changed again and denouncing God's covenant between husband and wife gets you banned as well.

Well...on a second look: The blasphemy rule is good enough for that already.

What are you talking about?

For one it isnt even November 1st yet and secondly when has he ever said we can't debate about about a marriage?
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(10-31-2019 01:31 PM)BlastbeatCasanova Wrote:  Roosh, do your thing, unless I misstep and get banned I’ll continue to post when I feel that I can add info, an anecdote, or some value.

However, with the state of the sexual marketplace, with the direction of this forum and resources like Heartiste getting shut down, I think young men coming up are going to suffer big time. The modern church does not teach men how to deal with women, or even how to become men. I hope things turn around and that I’m wrong

As Roosh stated - Game is neutral in essence. Even guys like Dalrock who always were religious men learned Game from the PUAs. Seducing your good girl works along the same rules as seducing the super-slut. She is still a woman and having Game helps you in the beginning as well as during the relationship and marriage.

It was never a political movement here - things are unlikely to turn around with the current elite in charge. When they are gone, then something may change. But until then your choice is still between enjyoing the decline or taking the God-pill - or variations in between.

Times are changing - from the 3 big Rs Rollo, Roissy and Roosh - Rollo stayed the course and is apolitical, Roissy turned more political and got banned, Roosh took the God-pill and will likely marry some day. There are die-hard Players out there even if most PUAs settled down as well. The market place is well-assessed anyway and nothing much will change, probably only get worse for heterosexual men.
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(10-31-2019 01:18 PM)AneroidOcean Wrote:  I met many peers and many excellent human beings through this forum who have mentored me in a variety of aspects of my life. Countless men have improved their mindset, their physical fitness, their social calibration not only with women but with all people. Many have become far more successful in their professional lives as well. I've made so many incredible life-long friends outside the forum with the social skills I was able to learn here.

People are so focused on the RVF as a Game forum, but I've always viewed it as a TRUTH forum. A place where men can get together to have honest discussions about not just women and relationships, but ANYTHING we felt the mainstream might have lied to us about: politics, history, health and nutrition, money, religion, etc.

The Forum didn't just help me hone my game...it introduced me to Bitcoin when it was $300. It predicted Brexit would happen and Trump would win months before those elections took place. It told me to switch out jogging for weight lifting, to ditch grains and vegetable oil for red meat and saturated fat, and that a pinch of baking soda and coconut oil was better than any deodorant stick money could buy.

Pick a subject, ANY subject, and I'll show you how the men on this Forum were years ahead of the curve.

This red-pill ethos, of prioritizing ugly truth over pretty lies, combined with a ruthless focus on pragmatic action and self-improvement, created something akin to a digital fraternity that quickly became my favorite place on the internet.

Since I joined in 2012 this Forum has been the one place where I've felt like I can voice my opinion about how reality actually works and receive helpful and honest feedback in return (rather than being fired/banned/arrested for "hate speech" or some sort of -ism or -phobia). At this point 100% of my closest friends and business associates are men I've met through the Forum. Nowhere else can I meet someone and immediately cement a firm bond of trust and rapport due to a shared understanding of reality and human nature.

I greatly respect Roosh for everything he's done (including this recent turn of events), but with this elimination of free speech I believe the most valuable aspect of this forum - its openness to new and radical ideas - is gone, and men like me will make our way elsewhere.

Despite that, I harbor no ill will towards Roosh and wish him the best of luck in his new endeavor. I will always be thankful for the knowledge and connections he provided to men like me, and will look back on my RVF memories fondly.

Godspeed, brothers.
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I think it's odd that anyone would be upset about this. Some guy somewhere though is like "oh man, I want to be blasphemous" and crying in his soup.

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(10-31-2019 05:31 PM)Kona Wrote:  I think it's odd that anyone would be upset about this. Some guy somewhere though is like "oh man, I want to be blasphemous" and crying in his soup.

It's only odd until you realize that Satan wants to blaspheme God. The once "most degenerate community on Earth" attracted a lots of people possessed by demons and with deals with the devil. The huge outcry after the first rule change to repel Evil confirmed that. Roosh did a good job there.
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(10-31-2019 05:31 PM)Kona Wrote:  I think it's odd that anyone would be upset about this. Some guy somewhere though is like "oh man, I want to be blasphemous" and crying in his soup.

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(10-31-2019 12:42 PM)Roosh Wrote:  
(10-31-2019 11:14 AM)Horus Wrote:  I feel sad.

I understand. For many men, including myself, RVF was the Bible in traveling and fornication. There was no other resource like it. You'd visit several times a day to get ideas and advice for living the lifestyle you believed was correct, and I was extremely proud that I had made a community where men could bond from that.

But RVF was not the Bible. It was a false road that allowed you to abuse yourself and others around you while rebelling against God. If you feel sad now, imagine how I feel in having created one of the most degenerate communities on Earth. I must turn away from that without delay. I don't expect you to understand this, or even to follow me from this point on, but I'm so relieved that a creation of mine is not being actively used to go against God's will.

I profoundly disagree with this. There is so much degeneracy in this world, porn, bestiality, homosexuality, swinging...etc and many more even worst...I always saw rfv as a force against all of this, and guinding men on a better path, perhaps also a sinner path, but no way one of the most degenerate communities on Earth.

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I hope it will still be allowed, and maybe even encouraged, to discuss - with serious data, strategy and purpose - about how to meet Conservative, humble or at least respectful, women abroad (in "not First World" countries), with the purpose of starting a Christian family with them. Because, if one is over 35, good luck finding a good, dignified and slim, still-single and not-tattooed, woman to marry in the West...

Also, I think that Roosh could take pride (or say joy) in his past "open forum (before the new rules)", as it is certain that RVF has saved lives. The old version of RVF has certainly prevented an unknown number of incel men from getting crazy and shootin up people (or just from becoming gays) - by teaching them (Heterosexual) Game and Life strategies.

So, well, let's say that the old version of RVF occasionally saved (incel) lives, and the new (Christian) version of it, saves or will save a number of souls, by teaching about God and the dangers of Evil (and the vectors of Evil: the LGBT mafia).

Personnally, as long as the forum allows discussion on marriage with good foreign women willing to bear your children, and highlights the growing perils of Cultural Degeneracy, Leftism, Terrorism, Transsexuality and Lesbian agenda, I'm interested in reading it.

One thing more: even if one is an atheist, one should in no circumstance blasphemate. It is in this case a matter of education. Gentlemen do not utter blasphemies, even if they are somehow atheists. My somewhat-atheist friends, well-educated people, are not snob, but just never blasphemate and very rarely pronounce loud vulgar words. That's just a matter of education, on top of being a matter of religion. For example I don't think I have ever heard my father or grandfathers say a blasphemy or, in public, a very vulgar word aloud.
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If the Game and Travel archives get permanently deleted, I hope we can be given some notice beforehand (to save local copies). Much of the information there was (and still is) very useful.
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(10-31-2019 10:17 AM)N°6 Wrote:  I’m a bit concerned about the prohibition of dating advice. Is this forum now for Christian family men and single MGTOWS?

The main reason I was a late starter in the SMP and a very frustrated AFC was because of the lack of dating guidance I received when I was a very regular church goer in my teens and early 20s. The churches have not been able to react to women extending everyone’s adolescence until their 30s.

For a bit I went a bit nuts trying to bang women, then realized the actual relationships were far more valuable to me than one night stands... those ONS now seem worthless. And I began to really place value on women believing in God. Except, I had to learn that myself; when older people told me that I didn't believe them. I think that part of my path is a much less intense mirror of Roosh's.

My question for Roosh: since you didn't figure out that promiscuity wasn't good until you were deep, deep into it, how can you expect a 17-25 year old testosterone-filled young man to NOT want to chase pussy over marriage?

If you'd like more young men to find that path, I don't see how the current rules attract them at all.

I remember the first thread here that excited me. Its tone was, "let's be real. Stop pretending that visiting other countries is the only way. If you want a top-notch woman, you need to be a top-notch man." My notch count isn't nearly that of many PUA types that were here - and I never wanted that level of promiscuity. But, something told me they could teach me the keys to what I wanted.
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(10-31-2019 01:31 PM)BlastbeatCasanova Wrote:  Roosh, do your thing, unless I misstep and get banned I’ll continue to post when I feel that I can add info, an anecdote, or some value.

However, with the state of the sexual marketplace, with the direction of this forum and resources like Heartiste getting shut down, I think young men coming up are going to suffer big time. The modern church does not teach men how to deal with women, or even how to become men. I hope things turn around and that I’m wrong

If you care about "young men" then enter a mentoring program and get your hands dirty or start a men's group in your local area.

This sterile internet driven approach to self help plays directly into the socially atomising agenda of the globalists, though I hope for the sake of some of the men here that the meet-up section makes a return when things settle down a bit.

For all the flak that Peterson gets (sometimes rightfully) at least the guys going to his events were taking the chance to meet others like them in person and hopefully form relevant local bonds with other men rather than bouncing ones and zeroes off of a server. Roosh's tour is a great example of how to foster local bonds of the kind that will really matter into the future. For most men in the West "sexual marketplaces" are about to become the least of your concerns. You should be concerning yourself with building a tribe of solid men who will be there for each other when the shit hits the fan, and ironically you will find that women will not be an issue when you do that.

The future is in God and tribe. Not internet dating advice.

God demands of Man responsibility. God demands of Woman vulnerability. These are their curse and blessing alike. Libertianism is to Man as Feminism is to Woman.
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(10-31-2019 09:15 PM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  The future is in God and tribe. Not internet dating advice.

The future is in God and tribe. And, considering, guns and gold. And a good untattoed girl by your side. No contest here.

God will help us and our (His, actually) tribes, but surely He wants us to be well prepared.
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(10-31-2019 10:17 AM)N°6 Wrote:  I’m a bit concerned about the prohibition of dating advice. Is this forum now for Christian family men and single MGTOWS?

The main reason I was a late starter in the SMP and a very frustrated AFC was because of the lack of dating guidance I received when I was a very regular church goer in my teens and early 20s. The churches have not been able to react to women extending everyone’s adolescence until their 30s.

The "Game" forum is closed. There is nothing to misunderstand about this.

There’s a relationship sub-forum. It mentions “meeting women” then “maintaining relationships”. I’m enquiring about the huge gap in the middle. A gap which will become a gulf that the bottom 80% of men risk falling into.

Don't spend all your energy on sex and all your money on women; they have destroyed kings. (Proverbs 31:3 GNB)
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(10-31-2019 10:17 AM)N°6 Wrote:  I’m a bit concerned about the prohibition of dating advice. Is this forum now for Christian family men and single MGTOWS?

The main reason I was a late starter in the SMP and a very frustrated AFC was because of the lack of dating guidance I received when I was a very regular church goer in my teens and early 20s. The churches have not been able to react to women extending everyone’s adolescence until their 30s.

For a bit I went a bit nuts trying to bang women, then realized the actual relationships were far more valuable to me than one night stands... those ONS now seem worthless. And I began to really place value on women believing in God. Except, I had to learn that myself; when older people told me that I didn't believe them. I think that part of my path is a much less intense mirror of Roosh's.

My question for Roosh: since you didn't figure out that promiscuity wasn't good until you were deep, deep into it, how can you expect a 17-25 year old testosterone-filled young man to NOT want to chase pussy over marriage?

If you'd like more young men to find that path, I don't see how the current rules attract them at all.

Roosh, maybe you could clarify on this point: Do you intend this to be a community for men who are seeking, or men who have already found Christian faith?

I think this is important to know for those of us who might not be as far along on our paths as you.
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