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RE: New anti-blasphemy rule (effective November 1)
To be clear, is it fine to have debates over Christian ideologies as long as it's polite?

My fear is not regarding the people debating against the Christian beliefs, but rather the more extreme proponents of Christian beliefs who may insult opposing views that put the opponent on the defensive.

They are already popping up in this thread and others. For example those without much life experience who refer to only the Bible as the singular authority rather than also their own experiences and independent thoughts. Anyone preaching marriage theory without having any openness towards the thoughts of those who are married, just seem like disengenuine lesser men.

Will these types of people who insult opposing views get a pass?

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I don't have anything against Christian beliefs. While I'm a Hindu, the place in India I hail from, Kerala has a LOT of Christians and they are like my kin. They are certainly more conservative than western Christians. So my beliefs are shared with them and collectively we generally do not align with western beliefs, especially religious. My point is that I would rather my opinions be judged for my character and morality than the religious label I identify with. That's about the same as judging someone by their nationality or color of their skin exclusively.

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(11-02-2019 03:46 AM)wwtl Wrote:  
(11-02-2019 12:39 AM)TooFineAPoint Wrote:  
(11-01-2019 09:38 PM)Rocha Wrote:  
(11-01-2019 07:57 PM)wwtl Wrote:  
(11-01-2019 06:08 PM)Athanasius Wrote:  Yes, you should pursue debt-free, virgin, Christian women w/no tattoos who desire to submit. In fact, if a woman claims to be a Christian and mocks the ideal of this, then that alone is a red flag.

The ultimate red flag is if she actually chooses to marry someone with an account on any fornication forum.

That's the fallacy resulting from slut abundance: Assuming these exclusive goods are actually available to experienced fornicators and can be "pursued" by them.

Well, I have to say that you are the best troll ever on rfv.

Good job sir.

Truth. I begrudgingly tip my hat.

He/she's almost given up the game in this thread though, with nearly a post to match every other contributor.

Let me ask one question: How many traditional, religious, loyal to their tribe, virgin women do you believe engage with a foreigner traveling a multitude of countries looking for the "tradwife" experience after accumulating three digits of notches?

Almost none. This is why I've always liked Serbian women. They are very resistant to foreign pua types. The small percentage that will give someone doing daygame a chance aren't wife material. Which is why so many people on this forum have complained about them.
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Trad is looking for a wife near where your own roots are.
So if a woman is trad she'll also look for a husband from near where her own roots are.
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My response to multiple people throwing condescending hissy fits:

“As the air to the bird or the sea to a fish, so too is contempt to the contemptible”.
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(11-02-2019 08:32 AM)Cobra Wrote:  To be clear, is it fine to have debates over Christian ideologies as long as it's polite?

Yes, but most of these "debates" always degrade emotionally and someone ends up getting suspended.

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(11-02-2019 10:06 AM)Roosh Wrote:  
(11-02-2019 08:32 AM)Cobra Wrote:  To be clear, is it fine to have debates over Christian ideologies as long as it's polite?

Yes, but most of these "debates" always degrade emotionally and someone ends up getting suspended.

Perhaps when people go onto the Catholic, or Orthodox threads they should behave with reverence. I find it gets confusing as sometimes people come in and throw a lot of shade, which can be frustrating. I'd be fine with this too if there is a Baptist thread, I could go on and ask a Q about something I know, or post a preacher I like, but I Wouldn't want to show up throwing bombs about apostolic succession or Sola Fide.

God Pill I am seeing as an overall positive thread so far with a couple of runaway convos, and should have a focus on what unites us.

Perhaps we need a religious debate thread where people can have it out a little more. All that said, you can't really do apologetics and theological debate seems difficult online from what I understand.

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(11-02-2019 09:38 AM)PainPositive Wrote:  
(11-02-2019 03:46 AM)wwtl Wrote:  
(11-02-2019 12:39 AM)TooFineAPoint Wrote:  
(11-01-2019 09:38 PM)Rocha Wrote:  
(11-01-2019 07:57 PM)wwtl Wrote:  The ultimate red flag is if she actually chooses to marry someone with an account on any fornication forum.

That's the fallacy resulting from slut abundance: Assuming these exclusive goods are actually available to experienced fornicators and can be "pursued" by them.

Well, I have to say that you are the best troll ever on rfv.

Good job sir.

Truth. I begrudgingly tip my hat.

He/she's almost given up the game in this thread though, with nearly a post to match every other contributor.

Let me ask one question: How many traditional, religious, loyal to their tribe, virgin women do you believe engage with a foreigner traveling a multitude of countries looking for the "tradwife" experience after accumulating three digits of notches?

Almost none. This is why I've always liked Serbian women. They are very resistant to foreign pua types. The small percentage that will give someone doing daygame a chance aren't wife material. Which is why so many people on this forum have complained about them.

Those Serbian women may well be resistant to those PUA types, but that wasn't quite the question that wwtl posed. He asked whether those women would engage with a foreigner who was looking for the 'tradwife' experience after the accumulation of his notches. That foreigner might have problems getting his PUA-notches in Serbia as you suggest, but presmably he would have done that elsewhere, wwtl having asked that question in the context of a PUA visiting multiple countries.

We are talking here about two different phases in the man's life, which do not mutually exclude each other. In the first phase the PUA gets his notches, and then gradually transitions into the traditional provider role to seek his 'tradwife', who will presumably have no idea about his caddish past, although she might wonder where he gets his understanding of women from.

The dastardly PUA thus gets to have his cake and to eat it, if he is adaptable enough, although probably many are not.

It is a natural transition to want to make given the ultimate nihilism of the PUA lifestyle, as Roosh and quite a few others are realizing. However, it is not an easy one. The 'tradwife' will have expectations of her own. The ex-PUA will be older and he better have something to show for all those years under his belt if he wants to find a young 'tradwife' and start a family.

The 'tradwife', when considering her options among younger men, looks for a man 'with prospects'. The older the man, the more she expects him to have realized those prospects.

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(11-01-2019 10:12 PM)Sadstate Wrote:  Go ahead and get married you pussies, cause this is what's in store for you.

See the cluster of traits on the left hand side? You know, the ones that 'God' always preaches? Goodness, good father, good husband, loyalty, intellience? Women despise that, so enjoy literally being cucked for the narcissistic clowns on the right.

It's not degenerate society, it's not social media, it's not the left, women have always been like this. With hypergamy greater than ever, it's the worst time to abandon game.

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If you decide to get married in an age where whoredom is at an all time high, I wish you the best, but to me it's a mistake.

Yes he got banned, but this does need to be a valid discussion. I've been to church as a Catholic every week since I was a child, and what has to be understood (especially for anyone newly directed towards christianity as a result of this forum), is that modern day christianity has been compromised. The globohomo agenda, feminism, and cucking has spread through the ranks and we do have to retain what we know to be true as men, to reform this sacred sphere.

The reason the above knowledge is important, is not due to the faggot way the poster expressed it, but due to the realities the chart possesses. I have noticed a large chunk of new users who have little to no understanding of the way women operate, and that cannot be lost. I've seen posts such as "God will guide me and relationships will work themselves out". Not only is this lazy, but it's in direct contrast to the teachings of faith. God will only help those who help themselves, and the quest for truth (or in this case, the truth about women), is a major part of that.

What the above graph doesnt illustrate, is that the key to a long successful relationship lies in embodying both aspects of that infographic. Being muscular amd dominant doesnt come at the expense of being a good father and/or financially secure. These aren't conflicting attributes. I think there is scope to offer the information we already know into an all encompassing package or else risk men being burned and jaded by women.
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Serbian women are notorious in the Balkans for being difficult; part of the reason wars in the Balkans were fought maybe has something to do with sexual repression.

Question remains, even if they deliver, do you have to remain in the Balkans long term to make it work? because the west is no place for such women, it is a meat-grinder.
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(11-01-2019 10:12 PM)Sadstate Wrote:  Go ahead and get married you pussies, cause this is what's in store for you.

See the cluster of traits on the left hand side? You know, the ones that 'God' always preaches? Goodness, good father, good husband, loyalty, intellience? Women despise that, so enjoy literally being cucked for the narcissistic clowns on the right.

It's not degenerate society, it's not social media, it's not the left, women have always been like this. With hypergamy greater than ever, it's the worst time to abandon game.

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If you decide to get married in an age where whoredom is at an all time high, I wish you the best, but to me it's a mistake.

Completely untrue. I'm going to reiterate some things I already wrote on this forum, which disappeared when various sections were moves and/or taken down.

If you find a nice girl from a good family at a young age and stick with her, the odds of getting divorced are small. Virtually every high school and college couple I knew are still married.

And while I know anecdotal evidence can't be trusted, I also can't ignore what my own eyes and experiences are telling me. I'm talking about people who met in 1990. Lots of them.

The problems come in when people don't commit in high school or college and then find themselves in the singles market. Most people were not built to bounce around from relationship to relationship. You get jaded. And hateful.

The media sells people in this idea of single-dom in the city. It's a nice idea. It makes for amusing TV programs. But it makes for a lousy life.

A lot of the problems with my ex and I came about because we met when we had an average age of 30, and both brought our attitudes of mistrust and suspicion to the table. Had we met at 20 this would not have happened because we didn't yet have the experiences that caused us to mistrust and be suspicious.

If this forum morphs into anything, it should be giving young men this advice. Get in on the ground level. It really doesn't get better. In fact it gets worse. Parents, teachers, and the media tell you that you "need experience." But the experiences you will get are like the ones I had: Losing a house, your wife, and your confidence.

They're selling you lies. As I've said many times here before, if you're a young guy odds are you already know the girl you should marry. You're not paying attention to her. She's the one who is sweet, not sexy. She's quiet, not outgoing. She's on the all-girls hall of her dorm in the study lounge. Seek her out, have lunch with her, and don't dump her for the sexy ones as some of us foolishly did. It'll pay off in the end.
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- The group displays excessively zealous and unquestioning commitment to its leader and (whether he is alive or dead) regards his belief system, ideology, and practices as the Truth, as law.

‪- Questioning, doubt, and dissent are discouraged or even punished.

-‪ The leadership dictates, sometimes in great detail, how members should think, act, and feel (for example, members must get permission to date, change jobs, marry or leaders prescribe what types of clothes to wear, where to live, whether or not to have children, how to discipline children, and so forth).

‪- The group is elitist, claiming a special, exalted status for itself, its leader(s) and members (for example, the leader is considered the Messiah, a special being, an avatar or the group and/or the leader is on a special mission to save humanity).

-‪ The group has a polarized us-versus-them mentality, which may cause conflict with the wider society.

- The group teaches or implies that its supposedly exalted ends justify whatever means it deems necessary. This may result in members' participating in behaviors or activities they would have considered reprehensible or unethical before joining the group (for example, lying to family or friends, or collecting money for bogus charities).

-‪ The leadership induces feelings of shame and/or guilt in order to influence and/or control members. Often, this is done through peer pressure and subtle forms of persuasion.

-‪ Subservience to the leader or group requires members to cut ties with family and friends, and radically alter the personal goals and activities they had before joining the group.

-‪ The most loyal members (the true believers) feel there can be no life outside the context of the group. They believe there is no other way to be, and often fear reprisals to themselves or others if they leave (or even consider leaving) the group.

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The man that supposedly fights for freedom of speech bans anything that rustles his feathers now.

You turned out to be exactly like the people and corporations you preached against for years Roosh.

Pathetic really that you would allow your massive ego to destroy everything you created.
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(11-02-2019 11:02 AM)captain_shane Wrote:  - The group displays excessively zealous and unquestioning commitment to its leader and (whether he is alive or dead) regards his belief system, ideology, and practices as the Truth, as law.

‪- Questioning, doubt, and dissent are discouraged or even punished.

-‪ The leadership dictates, sometimes in great detail, how members should think, act, and feel (for example, members must get permission to date, change jobs, marry or leaders prescribe what types of clothes to wear, where to live, whether or not to have children, how to discipline children, and so forth).

‪- The group is elitist, claiming a special, exalted status for itself, its leader(s) and members (for example, the leader is considered the Messiah, a special being, an avatar or the group and/or the leader is on a special mission to save humanity).

-‪ The group has a polarized us-versus-them mentality, which may cause conflict with the wider society.

- The group teaches or implies that its supposedly exalted ends justify whatever means it deems necessary. This may result in members' participating in behaviors or activities they would have considered reprehensible or unethical before joining the group (for example, lying to family or friends, or collecting money for bogus charities).

-‪ The leadership induces feelings of shame and/or guilt in order to influence and/or control members. Often, this is done through peer pressure and subtle forms of persuasion.

-‪ Subservience to the leader or group requires members to cut ties with family and friends, and radically alter the personal goals and activities they had before joining the group.

-‪ The most loyal members (the true believers) feel there can be no life outside the context of the group. They believe there is no other way to be, and often fear reprisals to themselves or others if they leave (or even consider leaving) the group.

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The man that supposedly fights for freedom of speech bans anything that rustles his feathers now.

You turned out to be exactly like the people and corporations you preached against for years Roosh.

Pathetic really that you would allow your massive ego to destroy everything you created.

Boy, you really have some burrs under your saddle. I'm surprised you come to this website if you don't like it.

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(11-02-2019 10:14 AM)NoMoreTO Wrote:  
(11-02-2019 10:06 AM)Roosh Wrote:  
(11-02-2019 08:32 AM)Cobra Wrote:  To be clear, is it fine to have debates over Christian ideologies as long as it's polite?

Yes, but most of these "debates" always degrade emotionally and someone ends up getting suspended.

Perhaps when people go onto the Catholic, or Orthodox threads they should behave with reverence. I find it gets confusing as sometimes people come in and throw a lot of shade, which can be frustrating. I'd be fine with this too if there is a Baptist thread, I could go on and ask a Q about something I know, or post a preacher I like, but I Wouldn't want to show up throwing bombs about apostolic succession or Sola Fide.

God Pill I am seeing as an overall positive thread so far with a couple of runaway convos, and should have a focus on what unites us.

Perhaps we need a religious debate thread where people can have it out a little more. All that said, you can't really do apologetics and theological debate seems difficult online from what I understand.

Starting to think that instead of sharing income, language skills, and travel experience on our profiles, there should be a box to display your religious faction. Orthodox, Catholic, the thousands of Protestant groups, even a selection for "skeptics" and "atheists." This would help identify what angle you're coming from in various threads.
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(11-02-2019 11:02 AM)captain_shane Wrote:  - The group displays excessively zealous and unquestioning commitment to its leader and (whether he is alive or dead) regards his belief system, ideology, and practices as the Truth, as law.

‪- Questioning, doubt, and dissent are discouraged or even punished.

-‪ The leadership dictates, sometimes in great detail, how members should think, act, and feel (for example, members must get permission to date, change jobs, marry or leaders prescribe what types of clothes to wear, where to live, whether or not to have children, how to discipline children, and so forth).

‪- The group is elitist, claiming a special, exalted status for itself, its leader(s) and members (for example, the leader is considered the Messiah, a special being, an avatar or the group and/or the leader is on a special mission to save humanity).

-‪ The group has a polarized us-versus-them mentality, which may cause conflict with the wider society.

- The group teaches or implies that its supposedly exalted ends justify whatever means it deems necessary. This may result in members' participating in behaviors or activities they would have considered reprehensible or unethical before joining the group (for example, lying to family or friends, or collecting money for bogus charities).

-‪ The leadership induces feelings of shame and/or guilt in order to influence and/or control members. Often, this is done through peer pressure and subtle forms of persuasion.

-‪ Subservience to the leader or group requires members to cut ties with family and friends, and radically alter the personal goals and activities they had before joining the group.

-‪ The most loyal members (the true believers) feel there can be no life outside the context of the group. They believe there is no other way to be, and often fear reprisals to themselves or others if they leave (or even consider leaving) the group.

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The man that supposedly fights for freedom of speech bans anything that rustles his feathers now.

You turned out to be exactly like the people and corporations you preached against for years Roosh.

Pathetic really that you would allow your massive ego to destroy everything you created.

In before the ban....

But on a serious note, if you don't approve of the new direction this forum is going, you have the option to log out from your account and not type this URL into your browser again. Many veterans of this forum who don't approve of the new direction have done just that without causing a scene, and there is already a forum that shall remain nameless which focuses on game and racking up your notch count, and welcomes atheists. No one is stopping you from participating on that forum instead.

Roosh created, and moderates, this forum, and its his house, his rules. When you get invited into someone's house with rules you consider unreasonable, do you barge in and lecture the homeowner on the absurdity of those rules? Or do you either politely leave/decline his invitation or just accept them for what they are and enter his house adhering to his rules?

And freedom of speech at the end of the day is the freedom of choice. As long as you are allowed to join another forum aligned with your values or start your own without getting shut down, you have the freedom of speech.
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I don't think Roosh is being hypocritical here. We have to remember that if it weren't for God, we wouldn't have free speech. We must respect his name.
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Few will admit this, but the world is in a state of undeclared total war and the global elite are out destroy the family and depopulate the earth, and these sinister people have been at work doing this for decades. This was their plan and it's all been orchestrated.





So while everyone wants to complain about how to deal with woman and finding a trad wife to start a family, one must understand the people who control this earth are working to prevent you from doing this. It's not a coincidence - and it's getting worse with every passing year.

They break up the family, roll out 5g to enslave us, while keep increasing GMOs and Vaccines killing us slowly. We (the awake) enjoy the show while the entire world is made sickly and infertile. Right on schedule to hit the Georgia Guidelines population goal, knowing that no one has the power to stop them.

Knowing this one begs to question how can such evil go on? The obvious answer is that they are doing the will of their God (Satan). It does not matter if YOU believe in a God, THEY do.

It was upon this realization that I started to care about my salvation. Everything else in this world is trivial in comparison, and I think that's what many men fail to both prioritize and realize. Once you understand there is a spiritual war taking place you have to take a stand, let go, and let God. Who can fight such a powerful force?
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(11-02-2019 12:00 PM)Sosa Wrote:  Few will admit this, but the world is in a state of undeclared total war and the global elite are out destroy the family and depopulate the earth, and these sinister people have been at work doing this for decades. This was their plan and it's all been orchestrated.





So while everyone wants to complain about how to deal with woman and finding a trad wife to start a family, one must understand the people who control this earth are working to prevent you from doing this. It's not a coincidence - and it's getting worse with every passing year.

They break up the family, roll out 5g to enslave us, while keep increasing GMOs and Vaccines killing us slowly. We (the awake) enjoy the show while the entire world is made sickly and infertile. Right on schedule to hit the Georgia Guidelines population goal, knowing that no one has the power to stop them.

Knowing this, one begs the question of how can such evil go on? The obvious answer is that they are doing the will of their God (Satan). It does not matter if YOU believe in a God, THEY do.

It was upon this realization that I started to care about my salvation. Everything else in this world is trivial in comparison, and I think that's what many men fail to both prioritize and realize. Once you understand there is a spiritual war taking place you have to take a stand, let go, and let God. Who can fight such a powerful force?

Are we to do something politically or should we let God do his Work and focus on our salvation?
People often say things will get worse before they get better. But at this rate, if the end times are not happening with the next 100-200 years, I can't imagine when.
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(11-02-2019 10:44 AM)Days of Broken Arrows Wrote:  
(11-01-2019 10:12 PM)Sadstate Wrote:  Go ahead and get married you pussies, cause this is what's in store for you.

See the cluster of traits on the left hand side? You know, the ones that 'God' always preaches? Goodness, good father, good husband, loyalty, intellience? Women despise that, so enjoy literally being cucked for the narcissistic clowns on the right.

It's not degenerate society, it's not social media, it's not the left, women have always been like this. With hypergamy greater than ever, it's the worst time to abandon game.

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If you decide to get married in an age where whoredom is at an all time high, I wish you the best, but to me it's a mistake.

Completely untrue. I'm going to reiterate some things I already wrote on this forum, which disappeared when various sections were moves and/or taken down.

If you find a nice girl from a good family at a young age and stick with her, the odds of getting divorced are small. Virtually every high school and college couple I knew are still married.

And while I know anecdotal evidence can't be trusted, I also can't ignore what my own eyes and experiences are telling me. I'm talking about people who met in 1990. Lots of them.

The problems come in when people don't commit in high school or college and then find themselves in the singles market. Most people were not built to bounce around from relationship to relationship. You get jaded. And hateful.

The media sells people in this idea of single-dom in the city. It's a nice idea. It makes for amusing TV programs. But it makes for a lousy life.

A lot of the problems with my ex and I came about because we met when we had an average age of 30, and both brought our attitudes of mistrust and suspicion to the table. Had we met at 20 this would not have happened because we didn't yet have the experiences that caused us to mistrust and be suspicious.

If this forum morphs into anything, it should be giving young men this advice. Get in on the ground level. It really doesn't get better. In fact it gets worse. Parents, teachers, and the media tell you that you "need experience." But the experiences you will get are like the ones I had: Losing a house, your wife, and your confidence.

They're selling you lies. As I've said many times here before, if you're a young guy odds are you already know the girl you should marry. You're not paying attention to her. She's the one who is sweet, not sexy. She's quiet, not outgoing. She's on the all-girls hall of her dorm in the study lounge. Seek her out, have lunch with her, and don't dump her for the sexy ones as some of us foolishly did. It'll pay off in the end.

I know its a sidebar, but this is excellent advice. As an aging man myself I can second this.

Women are not necessarily better or worse, they are just different. Hot blonde bombshells have different pros and cons than Lisa Loeb in the Library.

"Experience" is only necessary if you want to wade into the cesspool of high notch count instagram thots. Its isn't needed for every kind of relationship and scars you almost equally in the process of 'gaining experience with women'.

Its like the movie Platoon. The men that have survived triple digits of notches end up like Sgt. Barnes. Grizzled, skilled at what they do but merciless and hard hearted. Charlie Sheen enters the game with compassion and turns into a Barnes like character to survive. That is the nature of the game if you play it.

Young people don't realize, that they have the option of not playing/entering 'the game' though.

If you are young and find yourself a girl that is almost as much of a rookie as you are you can earn your stripes/relationship wisdom together. Its even better if she is even more naive than you are and will follow your lead.

If you decide that you need 'more notches' or want to mess around with attractive sluts that have been fornicating with the senior class pot dealer since their first day of high school, then you are going to have to get Sgt. Barnes tough to survive. That is what high notch count game skills are for. They are not for happiness, just for survival. You don't 'win' you just endure.

Thats where we are at now in the forum. Roosh is Sgt. Elias trying to keep those entering the game from being totally slaughtered. The "I hate the new forum rules" veterans are Sgt. Barnes and those new to women/the forum are Charlie Sheen.

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(10-31-2019 05:31 PM)Kona Wrote:  I think it's odd that anyone would be upset about this. Some guy somewhere though is like "oh man, I want to be blasphemous" and crying in his soup.

Aloha!

Kona has hit the nail on the head and his quote sums up how bizarrely some people behave when something like this is introduced into the forum, except it's not bizarre at all when you understand what drives it.

The kind of behavior that went on display back in June caused me to finally accept that demonic influence is real and powerful, and it hardly takes for Roosh to institute a rule that nobody was breaking in the first place to trigger a kneejerk demonically driven rejection from a number of members who are acting like vampires being exposed to a Holy Cross.

It would have been the case that if Roosh had decided to follow buddha and instituted a raft of rules centering around buddhism that he wouldn't have come under half the fire he has from the people so grossly afflicted here, because like all the afflicted from the horned transvestite to the "neo-masculine" casual sex addict they seem to be highly tolerant of every religion except one, and that's how you know it's the only real deal out there.

Everyone whose response to Christ is to recoil violently from him is a thrall to evil and as such they will be guided toward the service of evil no matter how good their intentions are. This is why they continue to plead for the "unfortunate" fate of the young men who might otherwise have come to this forum and been indoctrinated into what was until recently functionally a low level sex cult.

It's also why questions about precisely what vital information it is that men are not free to learn here anymore seem to wash over the concerned parties as though they simply cannot read the words on the screen in front of them.

They have been robbed of their senses and their sense, and made to recoil violently at the only medicine that will heal them.

God demands of Man responsibility. God demands of Woman vulnerability. These are their curse and blessing alike. Libertianism is to Man as Feminism is to Woman.
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(11-01-2019 05:30 PM)Captain Gh Wrote:  Nothing personal OP... but your post is so incorrect on many levels that it pains me to read it to something associated with Roosh. It realy really does!

First it's always analyze what Women do... and never trust what they say. "Talking on & off for 1 year... her calling you a... friend... and thinking you're ahead?!?! Dude... you're not even in the FriendZone... You're in the FriendZone of the FriendZone!!! Religious or not... what are the probability of a Hot & Young 20 Year Old not livin it up with anyone else!??

Friendzone happens to young male Beta Orbiter types, this is not it. I want to tell you about an interaction I had with her that I thought was pretty cool, maybe you will understand or maybe you wont.

Up until this point, I as a 35yr old confident male had pretty much ignored the youth, beauty and enticement of this young girl. This was a social gathering of sorts and I was not interested, especially in someone so young. I had spoken to her the first time she had come there, but thinking she was just a visitor, I had been somewhat dismissive of her views, but in a polite and respectful way. Over time, after seeing her at our gathering on repeated occasions, I slowly became more open to interacting with her.

As I managed to get closer and more comfortable, I found myself in a conversation with her alone. I hadnt shown any explicit romantic interest so far and behaved typical of the interactions that people have in this place. Though, ofcourse I was attracted to her and now saw an opportunity to have some fun...

As I spoke to her, I realized I really wanted to be closer to her. So I made a plan. I decided I would use a ruse to get close to her, close enough to whisper in her ear. We were talking non-emotional politics stuff so that gave me good cover. I decided I wanted to make an important point. I paused, looked thoughtful, then abruptly and swiftly, I moved my body closer to her, to her outside and twisted myself, in one move. I would end up facing her left cheek with our shoulders touching, me directly facing her and her facing slightly away from me. A bit like how boxers move to the side and twist to take the advantage. Now I can be closer to, and facing, her side-neck and ear, and can make my very important political point with greater emphasis.

I wanted to challenger her and invade her personal space. Force her to react to me so I can see what she does. Though I did give some warning, I moved swiftly. I spoke as I moved and maintained eye contact. She counter-moved quick to twist her body round and lean back, so we continued to face each other and maintain some distance. There was no break in conversation, eye-contact or facial expressions.

For a while there I was in no man's land, leaning in slightly while she lent back, both bodies twisted in strange, mirrored angles. Faces, conversation and eye-contact show no acknowledgement of my attempt to take her space.

I made my stupid non-point and retreated from my advanced position back to neutral ground. I was exhilerated though and pretty soon tried the same thing again, a subconscious drive there I could barely control. I moved again abruptly to 'invade' her personal space, under cover of important but mundane global affairs talk, but again my plans were thwarted by her nonplussed, cool evasive maneuver.

This happened a couple of months ago. I thought it was fun. It is cool to be a gentleman-like character but in secret, when no-one is watching, you can show her some part of your personality, with no warning or explanation. You do it because you want to express who you are. I wanted her to know I DGAF, that I found her hot, that though I am conscientious gentleman-like character, I am not going to ask her permission to get close to her if I want to be there, which I do, because she's hot.

I didnt move-in because I wanted to touch her. I moved-in to show her I want to, and will, move-in, an inevitable consequence of her beauty and my appreciation of it. Her nonplussed reaction shows she is comfortable with my aggression, her moving away says she is confident enough to reject my advances.

That was very fun and interesting. I had a yet stronger interaction with her last week that really peaked everything. I wont go into that one but it was pretty intense and basically I displayed a lot of alpha characteristics, heaps of leadership, and social proof, but no aggression or pursuing this time.

Anyway, this situation is fun but I am not planning on making anything happen here as we dont seem to have too much in common (age, background etc) and it was never my intention to go there.

(11-01-2019 05:30 PM)Captain Gh Wrote:  It absolutely starts with sexuality... and unless she reallly really believes in Chastity (which by the way is the Attraction she feels towards you which allow her to "fight nature" for the greater good of the Union) you got 2-max 3 dates to solidify the Whole Thang.

Sexuality and sex are not the same. Sexuality and Masculinity can be expressed in many ways.

You should understand that sex is just sex, but social interactions can take many forms. It is like comparing playing Draughts with playing Chess, or NL Holdem. The best social interactions can blow a womans mind better than any sex. Better than anything else. But it takes hard work, high skill and experience. Certainly for me, the two interactions above, and many others, were more fulfilling than any sex I've ever had (I am not a virgin, just to be clear lol).
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(11-02-2019 10:44 AM)Days of Broken Arrows Wrote:  Completely untrue. I'm going to reiterate some things I already wrote on this forum, which disappeared when various sections were moves and/or taken down.

If you find a nice girl from a good family at a young age and stick with her, the odds of getting divorced are small. Virtually every high school and college couple I knew are still married.

And while I know anecdotal evidence can't be trusted, I also can't ignore what my own eyes and experiences are telling me. I'm talking about people who met in 1990. Lots of them.

True. However, people who have invested their identity into conflating "redpill" with dis-attachment from any emotional investment in women have a hard time accepting this because well.. It's their IDENTITY to hate the idea of investing in a relationship. For them to attack this feels very personal because it undercuts their very sense of self.


Sometimes the truth holds up an uncomfortable mirror to them. Reality: the divorce rate for Catholic couples where both attend church weekly, didn't cohabitate before marriage, and avoid contraception is about 1%. People who pride themselves on being "redpill" don't like to think about that statistic because the implied message is "your life is a lie". They pride themselves on being better than the rest of us they're the only ones smart enough to realize the "truth" that "AWALT" and investing in women is a loser's game.

All it takes to blow up that frame of reference is to compare the results for people who live in that Orthodox bubble vs. the greater society and you realize where the problem actually lies.

Quote:They're selling you lies. As I've said many times here before, if you're a young guy odds are you already know the girl you should marry. You're not paying attention to her. She's the one who is sweet, not sexy. She's quiet, not outgoing. She's on the all-girls hall of her dorm in the study lounge. Seek her out, have lunch with her, and don't dump her for the sexy ones as some of us foolishly did. It'll pay off in the end.


Ya know, that sounds exactly like someone in my life.

I was lucky enough to have been badly burned by someone who was ostensibly "Catholic" but decided things like "I'm going to get married when I'm about 30" and who was going to focus on her career with a resulting level of investment in others that you'd expect.

If not for that experience I wouldn't have been able to appreciate the traits you describe. I made the conscious decision to not think with my dick and keep investing in the one who displayed a higher level of character while being easy to miss.



Here's one thing I'll speak frankly on: Most guys just think with their dicks and on the basis of trying to find, as DOBA says, "the sexy ones". Hell my own family members have made some extremely fucking stupid decisions because they like the adventure and keep fucking around with mentally unstable women to the point that it's a miracle one of them hasn't completely self sabotaged himself and gotten in legal trouble despite being on the yellow brick road to being a corporate executive.


It's stupid because the sweet ones have sex drives too. As the relationship progresses and you enter the sacrament, those sexual inhibitions they have from habit will drop. [/b]
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Disclaimer: This post is explicit but I am NOT writing it to inspire sin. I'm writing it to inspire within the men here the desire to experience what true, chaste, marital sex is like. Contrary to popular perception it is not sinful to desire matrimonial sex. It is a holy and beautiful thing and I can't accomplish what I'm trying to without being explicit.

Sex within a sacramental marriage is different. It's much better when your intent is union. Even though the marriage type of girl is more conservative and less "sexy", once she's a wife inhibitions fall off before long because they're human and they have sex drives too. Combine their natural sex drive with a strong pair bonding and the excitement of it for them then you'll get to enjoy sex that is spectacular compared to anything you'll ever get from a random hookup.


I'm pushing the rules here, but let me speak plainly. Consummation of a marriage is divinely wonderful in a way no hookup can be because there's a level of communion that simply can't exist in a non-sacramental situation, let alone one where you're using contraception to block that union.

No hookup can compare to how pleasurable it is as you stare into the eyes of the woman you share your very soul with and climax from the feeling of her around you in a perfect, holy act. You begin to nut inside her as far as you can, and she stares back at you overwhelmed with joy and passion as she accepts your seed; you lay there with her as you continue to fill her, and hold her; two souls as one; a mixing of masculine and the feminine in complete balance. There's no guilt, no regret, no shame....just a perfect, peaceful, loving union as you continue to enjoy the perfect closeness, tenderness, and complete union with each other. You feel an almost divine sense of union and peace as you relax with her. There's no guilt, no regret. Just peace and beauty at the union and know that she's accepted you as fully as any woman is capable of doing. Maybe you are even contemplating how your seed and hers, now mixed, may be forming a new life who will carry on your legacy even now as you lovingly stroke her hair and kiss her lips.

And that's just the "lovemaking". The good girls are typically submissive so there's going to be times when you enjoy some crazy sex in dominant positions just going like a jackhammer, times where she wants to be handcuffed or tied up, or employ any combination of toys, play, technique, fantasy, or whatever you choose to make cum so much she begs you to stop because it's getting painful. And that's all perfectly moral and healthy with no reason for you to feel inhibitions.

That's somewhat graphic but it's the best way I have to describe it. A hookup has none of that. With no future, there's no true giving. With contraception barricading your seed from her, there's no complete giving and sharing of each other physically. There's no shared name, no (intentionally) shared spiritual connection....none of that. Aside from the pure animal excitement they're much closer to mutual masturbation.

It may be passionate. It may be crazy and wild. But it's never going to be quite the same as what you get to enjoy in a sacramental union. It's important for you all to understand that it's different both because there are a lot of other positive factors that come from doing it in accordance with natural law, and that if done right young brides tend to pair bond hard so they give you something during sex that you won't get from more jaded partners.
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I support any changes Roosh makes that will lighten the darkness in his heart.
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You guys are living in a fantasy world. Where do we get this time machine than can send men back to high school where they can date a virgin, not cohabitate, get married in their early 20s, have 3 kids, go to church every week, and live happily ever after? What reality are you guys living in? Female promiscuity is crammed down everyone's throats and you think you can dip your hands into this toxic dating pool and find untainted women? Fuck outta here.

WOMEN DON'T NEED YOU. And they don't give a shit about your morals or your God. So good luck selling them on that. They have hundreds of exciting hunks to pick from and they match with every swipe. What fucking good is your God fetish going to do? Have as much fucking frame as you want, the forces of hookup culture outweigh you by a million. It's sad, but it is what it is and it's too late for society to change. You can pick a life of morality, whatever the fuck that means (what, being celibate until you get married? lol). Good fucking luck! Roosh, you're 40, are you never going to fuck again until marriage? Who are you're going to marry, a virgin in her mid 30s? Early 30s? Mid 20s? They even exist past 20?

Reading some of this churchy beta male bullshit makes me cringe. Locking eyes with your wife as your bodies and souls intertwine as you're making love????? Fuck off lmao. How the fuck did you pussies revert back to game infancy where you write poems and send flowers to bitches?

"Oh my God, what has all this knowledge of female sexuality gotten me, besides sleeping with attractive women for the last 15 years? I'm so ashamed! For some reason I need to become the lame door holding pussy pedestalizing beta phaggot chump that God says I need to be. Then I will be happy!" tard

Women hate God. He is the epitome of beta male, and they want the Devil. Almost overnight you guys went from redpill to beta male provider husband game, and we've seen how that's worked out for men in the last 50 years. Being ridiculed, dumped, used, divorced, and financially ruined.

So sad that this site went from having an honest exchange of ideas between men to being run by triggered pussies who faint after reading the words damn or heck.

Good luck fighting against 21st century reality and best of luck holding out for that unicorn that doesn't exist.

Okily dokily pussyrinos. I'm waiting for my ban now. Noodly-doodly nice talking with you. Hope that puss Roosh at least gets a chuckle while reading this.

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(11-02-2019 03:45 PM)MrLemon Wrote:  I support any changes Roosh makes that will lighten the darkness in his heart.

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“That sig BTW is a very asinine anti-family anti-parent quote. You live in a country where 40% of children grow up without a biological father, yet somehow “the greatest burden a child must bear is the unlived life of its parents”? Sorry but this is fruity Boomer nonsense.”

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