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Quote:IRL I'm a goofball that loves to make slapstick and sarcastic humor blend in having a good time with people I meet

That does sound a little homo, to be honest. Do you do this at an adult bookstore while looking through a glory hole?
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I wonder how much sexual abuse plays into this. I think this is massive problem in society, yes we all hear about human trafficking and stuff but a lot of people are sexually abused as children by friends and family. Not just by men, by women too. In the past this probably wasn’t an issue, but now with both parents having to work so much to maintain a middle class lifestyle, kids are exposed to more adults (daycare, school, etc) that could do harm to them. I don’t think this is how it was back in the day (maybe some older posters can chime in) where the mom stayed home and took care of the kids or the grandparents helped and there was minimal exposure to non-familial adults in which the child would be alone with them and at risk. I posted an article in the trans thread about the first trans “woman” who de-transitioned and called the whole movement a sham; this man cited his childhood abuse as the main driver for his mental problems that led to being trans. I just read that Ellen Degeneres was a used by her stepfather as a child. A pattern with lesbians seems to involve abuse by a man when they are younger. I’m speaking in generalities so don’t that this as hard facts but more needs to be looked into with this.

My good friend has an associate who has been gay and had sex with 100+ dudes. Now he wants to be abstinent, leave the gay lifestyle behind and marry a wife and have kids (I’ll add that he is only attracted to women that resemble his mother).
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Virtually ALL homosexual men were initiated into sex as a child. Half view the initiation as abuse, and half view it as lucky easy sex. Men do not easily change their sexual preference, which is almost always based upon whatever gives that initial sexual arousal. This is why, as an example, odd fetishes such as latex, fursuits, high heel stomping etc always have men aroused by it. Like homos, they got imprinted with their initial sexual arousal.
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^makes sense. As I kid I grew up going to a pool where all the life guards were hot seniors/college students. As a kid I thought they looked like goddesses up there in the life guard post, with their sun kissed skin and tight red one pieces. It definitely made an impression on me for better or worse
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(11-02-2019 06:21 PM)mr_ks Wrote:  Do you guys think men who fuck other men are gay if they are ones fucking?

My point is there is no such thing as 'gay'. This is a false idea created by the West.

It is not about whether you are attracted to other men and wish to penetrate them. That can be socially learned and in many societies it doesn't make one 'gay'.

Gay is really just a man who lacks masculinity and is ok being penetrated in the anus.

There is nothing more humiliating and emasculating for a man than to be penetrated by another in the anus.

Gays and women enjoy this hence they are called gays and men hate them, for they enjoy the most emasculating act of them all.

The answer to your question is yes. That is a homosexual act.
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(11-03-2019 11:03 PM)PABeaulieu Wrote:  They all talk about God, and they all wear the very same type of t-shirt and stand on the stage the same way. They probably all belong to a specific Christian organization that organized this presentation.

However, I find it out interesting. The Black guy talking about the abuses he went through in his youth gives the most interesting point of view, I think.

They may have had other goals, but one was to encourage members of Congress to oppose the “Therapeutic Fraud Prevention Act.” This bill would make it illegal for a therapist to help someone stop being gay or transsexual, even if the person desires to stop.

   
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What scares me is how obvious the treachery of organized homosexuality is. This is very simple. In a free country a person can seek help for a condition that they have. The homosexual "community" have made it painfully obvious that they want to deny this from some people. These therapy bans are an abomination. The ban is rotten, that much is true, but, this also reveals a whole lot more that is rotten about homosexualism. Why do they have to ban anything? For that matter, why do they censor? Truth is homosexuality is not innate and it is not fixed. Plenty of people have converted from homosexual to straight. If we're to believe the homosexuals, one cannot change his or her "orientation" any more than a Black person can change to become white. Indeed, a black people cannot be white, but, when we look at homosexuals, people do change and becoming non-gay. There is more to this. As I mentioned, its all about sustaining the idea that homosexuals are "born that way". Everything rests on this idea. Its sad but people mistake homosexuals for being a powerful political lobby, but, as we can see the very thing that supports their case is nothing but a lie. Its a lie that gays are born that way or can never change. Its a lie. And lies are no good.
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I'm surprised nobody has mentioned Ann Heche, Ellen Degeneres' ex lesbian gf.
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https://www.henrymakow.com/homosexual-in...beans.html

[Image: rs-19362-gaymarriage-624-1372350631.jpg]

A former activist and former gay:

Quote:Former Gay Activist: Gay Marriage is a "Total Farce"
November 6, 2019


rs-19362-gaymarriage-624-1372350631.jpg
"Sexual perversions are widespread among gay men
and involve urine, feces, and painful sex.
Most gays are empty voids and fill their lives with sex and drugs."



OUR GOVERNMENT IS FOISTING THIS "LIFESTYLE" ON OUR CHILDREN AND SOCIETY AS A WHOLE.

BY REDEFINING MARRIAGE, THE BANKERS WANT TO UNDERMINE HETEROSEXUAL NORMS IN ORDER
TO DESTABILIZE & DEPOPULATE SOCIETY


John Blair Linn was an active member of the Washington DC gay scene for 25 years. Around 2012 he became disillusioned with the "homosexual lifestyle." He is a strong advocate for the treatment of homosexuality as a mental disorder. See part 2 (below this article) where John enumerates health problems associated with homosexual activity.


from Sept 5, 2012
by John Blair Linn
(henrymakow.com)



All that most homosexuals really care about is sex. Very few are in actual committed relationships, and those that almost always have open relationships, and these are widely accepted in the gay community.

The gay bar is really the center of life for most homosexuals. They classify themselves as either "tops" (the one who screws) or "bottoms" (the one who gets screwed) and that is how they have structured their entire culture.

Unlike a man and a woman, two men need to know who plays the role of male, and who plays the role of female - set sexual positions - and homosexual relations are truly a hooking up arrangement. The public is so brainwashed to blindly accept gay relationships.

There is generally no stigma about any sexual behavior and those who belong to the S&M crowd are widely accepted by the general community.

Sexual perversions are widespread among gay men and involve urine, feces, and painful sex. Most gays are empty voids and fill their lives with sex and drugs. There is also a lot of anger among gay men. They are angry at their disorder and display their anger by lashing out at normal healthy society.

I believe that homosexuality is almost always a birth defect. Some people are born crippled or with mental illness; the same goes for most homosexuals.

Homosexuality revolves totally around sex, pure and simple. Few homosexual men ever form relationships, and nearly all homosexual men are attracted to much younger men. Homosexuality is truly a compulsive disorder.


HOMOSEXUALITY IS A DISORDER


Tragically my homosexuality was caused by poor childhood upbringing and I developed homosexual feelings at age 19 and thought that I could find love with another man, but I was mistaken.

I have always had major problems since I moved to Washington, DC back in 1982. I joined a gay group and everyone told me that I had to accept my sexual orientation - but what I objected to was the filth of so many gay men around me. I wanted love, but all the gay men wanted was sex.

It was only this year when I read a Catholic site on the Internet that listed homosexuality as a disorder - specifically "same-sex attraction disorder" and I launched into a huge research project and realized, based upon my life here in DC and all of the compulsive sex, that the Church was right that it truly is a disorder.

It became clear that the psychiatric profession was in error, that homosexuality was very much either a mental or developmental disorder. I only realized that homosexuality was a pathology this year.

I am convinced that most homosexual men have a brain abnormality that I believe was caused in the womb. They started out as women and then something happened and they became men. They do deserve compassion but most are so screwed up psychologically and all they think about is sex.

I would guess that about 75% of all homosexual men are indeed either born that way or born pre-disposed to homosexuality because they show visible traces of homosexuality. Few are like Rock Hudson who was mentally abused by his distant father.

HOMOSEXUALS REALLY LOVE STRAIGHT MEN

Prior to the sexual revolution, many of these homosexuals still got married and had children because society's attitudes were so prohibitive.

Today anything goes and the homosexuals are now looking for "bi-curious" men - as your one of your articles stated, homosexuals really love straight men. They would do anything to get at an attractive straight man.

Otherwise, most homosexual men prefer younger homosexual men by about 20 years and after about age 45, they start to get depressed and end up hiring young male prostitutes and risking their lives for sexual thrills.

gay-logos.jpeg
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I have only known a few homosexual men to be attracted to underage boys, but there is an entirely separate culture built on that.

The younger homosexual men hate the older homosexual men for no other reason than they are no longer beautiful and think they should kill themselves. The idea of a homosexual "community" is a farce because homosexuals hate each other more than they hate Evangelical Christians. Almost all homosexual men want [hetero] masculine men and hate other homosexual men who are feminine.

The Boy Scouts are entirely correct in banning homosexual scoutmasters. In the small rural community where I grew up we had a homosexual scoutmaster who abused numerous underage boys but it was in a period when these incidents were hushed up. Several of these young boys developed emotional problems. This same individual had an uncle who was a major official in the boy scouts who also molested young boys.

Also - so many homosexuals mix drugs in their sex. They need to do this to be passive anally with other men.


GAY MARRIAGE IS A TOTAL FARCE

Gay marriage is a total farce. Most gay men do not want to be married but to be free sexual spirits and get as much sex as they can. There is a minority of gay men who are celibate and in many cases never leave their home areas to go to a gay community because they know homosexuality is wrong.

I know of two homosexual men in a small rural community who never left for the city because they felt that the homosexual lifestyle was wrong. The liberals who are supporting gay marriage know absolutely nothing of the gay lifestyle - or know but think that marriage will curb the sexual lifestyle of gay men - boy are they wrong!

50% of gay marriages in San Francisco are open marriages - and this is an open secret known throughout the gay community. President Obama was a total liar when he claimed that gay marriages are monogamous.

The good, decent, and honest African-American population of California who voted in large numbers against gay marriage know more about simple biology and natural law than the Ph.D.s and intellectuals who pushed gay marriage on the overall population of California.

These young kids who are marching in support of homosexual marriage are totally brainwashed. Homosexual men are some of the richest and most affluent in the country and they do not need marriage. Two men or two women should not be raising young children. This is the job for heterosexuals.

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Makow comment - I appreciate John's confirmation of many facts we have suspected. I disagree with him on homosexuality being inborn in most cases. My reading suggests they are 20% or less and relate to a lack of testosterone during gestation. I also acknowledge that there is a minority of gay couples who are monogamous. My objection to the gay lifestyle is that it is used by the Illuminati to subvert heterosexuals. I don't care what consenting gays do as long as they do not harm others.

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PART TWO (NOV 5, 2019) Gays suffer from numerous health problems.


On June 26, 2015, the U.S. Supreme Court struck down all state bans on same-sex marriage, legalized it in all fifty states, and required states to honor out-of-state same-sex marriage licenses in the case Obergefell v. Hodges. It was hailed as a major civil rights issue.

Even my elderly grandmother who was a registered Republic in conservative central Pennsylvania, as well as my mother, supported gay marriage because they loved me and wanted me to be happy marrying someone of the same sex. They knew the pain that I suffered from my homosexuality and wanted me to be happy.

src.adapt.480.low.Virginia_gay_marriage_021314.jpg
In typical form, gay activists gathered all around the country waving the rainbow banner with T-Shirts saying "Love is Love." Also in typical fashion liberal Democrats kept saying we got to be fair, we can't discriminate, after all, if two straight people can marry, why not two gay people? Those who opposed gay marriage were haters and bigots or just plain religious nuts. A huge number of Roman Catholics - 68%- defied their Church's own historical teaching on the sanctity of marriage between a man and a woman. Had they researched the issue on the web and studied why the Church opposed gay marriage they should have also opposed it on scientific grounds.

I came out staunchly opposed to gay marriage which totally shocked most of my friends and co-workers. I was very much concerned about the children of such a marriage if the couple adopted kids. I attended a liberal Lutheran Church at the time and they had a special meeting to discuss gay marriage. At that meeting, concern was similarly expressed about the treatment of children of homosexual married couples. The minister, Rev.Theiss, said not to worry that his cousin was gay and his partner had raised a child and that the child turned out ok and that nothing was wrong with homosexual couples adopting kids.

The homosexual community suffers from severe mental and physical pathologies. One in eleven white homosexuals has HIV, 25% of homosexuals are alcoholics, the suicide rate of homosexuals is 6 times the national average, 40% of homosexuals are mentally ill, anal cancer is 17 times the rate of anal cancer among straight men, and the act of anal intercourse is so dangerous that the Surgeon General has strongly advised that it not be practiced.

Let's not forget that anal sodomy was prohibited by most civilized countries until recently. I have done extensive research and found a link between anal intercourse and fecal seepage. Gay activists go to great lengths to deny this but I have investigated gay chat rooms and blogs have discovered that this is true. Many homosexual men take illegal drugs to allow for anal intercourse to take place. Dr. Stephen Goldstone in his book THE INS AND OUTS OF GAY SEX advises gay men with fecal seepage to wear tampons Dr. Goldstein is gay.

Gay activists typically blame society and discrimination for their mental and physical problems. In fact, gays have high rates of mental illness all across Western Europe and in New Zealand - all areas friendly to gays. This is a major international issue.

SWEDEN AND DENMARK

What about gay marriage in Sweden and Denmark where it has been legal since 1989? These two countries are very pro-gay.

swedish-gays.jpg
In LGBT-affirming Sweden (where the suicide victim's sexual orientation is recorded), suicide risk was found to be slightly elevated among female married couples and almost three times as high among male married couples, compared to heterosexual married couples European Journal of Epidemiology, July 2016.

Similarly in Denmark (in the first twelve years of legalized domestic partnerships), the age-adjusted suicide rate for same-sex registered domestic partner men was nearly eight times the rate for men in heterosexual marriages and nearly twice the rate for men who had never married. Social Psychiatry and Psychiatric Epidemiology, 2011.

Married lesbians in Denmark were more than six times more likely to commit suicide than married straight women. They were also at a 60 percent increased risk of death from cancer, for reasons not yet understood.

The rate of domestic violence among gay couples is 46% Nearly all gay couples allow for outside sex.

I have read real horror stories about lesbians raising young boys. Boys especially need a dad. This sociological fact is already well known.

Gay marriage is a total fraud.

Most gay men remain single.

I am glad to have remained single. At lEAST I AM STILL alive.
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Michael Voris, the married Catholic host of The Vortex channel on YouTube, used to be gay. Needless to say, the still-gays don’t seem to like that God changed him. The “immutability” stuff seems as big a part of their activism as the “born that way” stuff. Basically they are using determinism as an excuse for hedonism.

Paul writes in the Scriptures that some of the people he’s preaching to used to be homosexuals (and fornicators, and drunkards, etc) before they accepted Christ, because through God all things are possible and no healing is beyond His reach.

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(11-07-2019 03:52 AM)Simeon_Strangelight Wrote:  https://www.henrymakow.com/homosexual-in...beans.html

[Image: rs-19362-gaymarriage-624-1372350631.jpg]

A former activist and former gay:

Quote:Former Gay Activist: Gay Marriage is a "Total Farce"
November 6, 2019


rs-19362-gaymarriage-624-1372350631.jpg
"Sexual perversions are widespread among gay men
and involve urine, feces, and painful sex.
Most gays are empty voids and fill their lives with sex and drugs."



OUR GOVERNMENT IS FOISTING THIS "LIFESTYLE" ON OUR CHILDREN AND SOCIETY AS A WHOLE.

BY REDEFINING MARRIAGE, THE BANKERS WANT TO UNDERMINE HETEROSEXUAL NORMS IN ORDER
TO DESTABILIZE & DEPOPULATE SOCIETY


John Blair Linn was an active member of the Washington DC gay scene for 25 years. Around 2012 he became disillusioned with the "homosexual lifestyle." He is a strong advocate for the treatment of homosexuality as a mental disorder. See part 2 (below this article) where John enumerates health problems associated with homosexual activity.


from Sept 5, 2012
by John Blair Linn
(henrymakow.com)



All that most homosexuals really care about is sex. Very few are in actual committed relationships, and those that almost always have open relationships, and these are widely accepted in the gay community.

The gay bar is really the center of life for most homosexuals. They classify themselves as either "tops" (the one who screws) or "bottoms" (the one who gets screwed) and that is how they have structured their entire culture.

Unlike a man and a woman, two men need to know who plays the role of male, and who plays the role of female - set sexual positions - and homosexual relations are truly a hooking up arrangement. The public is so brainwashed to blindly accept gay relationships.

There is generally no stigma about any sexual behavior and those who belong to the S&M crowd are widely accepted by the general community.

Sexual perversions are widespread among gay men and involve urine, feces, and painful sex. Most gays are empty voids and fill their lives with sex and drugs. There is also a lot of anger among gay men. They are angry at their disorder and display their anger by lashing out at normal healthy society.

I believe that homosexuality is almost always a birth defect. Some people are born crippled or with mental illness; the same goes for most homosexuals.

Homosexuality revolves totally around sex, pure and simple. Few homosexual men ever form relationships, and nearly all homosexual men are attracted to much younger men. Homosexuality is truly a compulsive disorder.


HOMOSEXUALITY IS A DISORDER


Tragically my homosexuality was caused by poor childhood upbringing and I developed homosexual feelings at age 19 and thought that I could find love with another man, but I was mistaken.

I have always had major problems since I moved to Washington, DC back in 1982. I joined a gay group and everyone told me that I had to accept my sexual orientation - but what I objected to was the filth of so many gay men around me. I wanted love, but all the gay men wanted was sex.

It was only this year when I read a Catholic site on the Internet that listed homosexuality as a disorder - specifically "same-sex attraction disorder" and I launched into a huge research project and realized, based upon my life here in DC and all of the compulsive sex, that the Church was right that it truly is a disorder.

It became clear that the psychiatric profession was in error, that homosexuality was very much either a mental or developmental disorder. I only realized that homosexuality was a pathology this year.

I am convinced that most homosexual men have a brain abnormality that I believe was caused in the womb. They started out as women and then something happened and they became men. They do deserve compassion but most are so screwed up psychologically and all they think about is sex.

I would guess that about 75% of all homosexual men are indeed either born that way or born pre-disposed to homosexuality because they show visible traces of homosexuality. Few are like Rock Hudson who was mentally abused by his distant father.

HOMOSEXUALS REALLY LOVE STRAIGHT MEN

Prior to the sexual revolution, many of these homosexuals still got married and had children because society's attitudes were so prohibitive.

Today anything goes and the homosexuals are now looking for "bi-curious" men - as your one of your articles stated, homosexuals really love straight men. They would do anything to get at an attractive straight man.

Otherwise, most homosexual men prefer younger homosexual men by about 20 years and after about age 45, they start to get depressed and end up hiring young male prostitutes and risking their lives for sexual thrills.

gay-logos.jpeg
(Corporate America is controlled by the Illuminati central bankers)

I have only known a few homosexual men to be attracted to underage boys, but there is an entirely separate culture built on that.

The younger homosexual men hate the older homosexual men for no other reason than they are no longer beautiful and think they should kill themselves. The idea of a homosexual "community" is a farce because homosexuals hate each other more than they hate Evangelical Christians. Almost all homosexual men want [hetero] masculine men and hate other homosexual men who are feminine.

The Boy Scouts are entirely correct in banning homosexual scoutmasters. In the small rural community where I grew up we had a homosexual scoutmaster who abused numerous underage boys but it was in a period when these incidents were hushed up. Several of these young boys developed emotional problems. This same individual had an uncle who was a major official in the boy scouts who also molested young boys.

Also - so many homosexuals mix drugs in their sex. They need to do this to be passive anally with other men.


GAY MARRIAGE IS A TOTAL FARCE

Gay marriage is a total farce. Most gay men do not want to be married but to be free sexual spirits and get as much sex as they can. There is a minority of gay men who are celibate and in many cases never leave their home areas to go to a gay community because they know homosexuality is wrong.

I know of two homosexual men in a small rural community who never left for the city because they felt that the homosexual lifestyle was wrong. The liberals who are supporting gay marriage know absolutely nothing of the gay lifestyle - or know but think that marriage will curb the sexual lifestyle of gay men - boy are they wrong!

50% of gay marriages in San Francisco are open marriages - and this is an open secret known throughout the gay community. President Obama was a total liar when he claimed that gay marriages are monogamous.

The good, decent, and honest African-American population of California who voted in large numbers against gay marriage know more about simple biology and natural law than the Ph.D.s and intellectuals who pushed gay marriage on the overall population of California.

These young kids who are marching in support of homosexual marriage are totally brainwashed. Homosexual men are some of the richest and most affluent in the country and they do not need marriage. Two men or two women should not be raising young children. This is the job for heterosexuals.

--
Makow comment - I appreciate John's confirmation of many facts we have suspected. I disagree with him on homosexuality being inborn in most cases. My reading suggests they are 20% or less and relate to a lack of testosterone during gestation. I also acknowledge that there is a minority of gay couples who are monogamous. My objection to the gay lifestyle is that it is used by the Illuminati to subvert heterosexuals. I don't care what consenting gays do as long as they do not harm others.

---
PART TWO (NOV 5, 2019) Gays suffer from numerous health problems.


On June 26, 2015, the U.S. Supreme Court struck down all state bans on same-sex marriage, legalized it in all fifty states, and required states to honor out-of-state same-sex marriage licenses in the case Obergefell v. Hodges. It was hailed as a major civil rights issue.

Even my elderly grandmother who was a registered Republic in conservative central Pennsylvania, as well as my mother, supported gay marriage because they loved me and wanted me to be happy marrying someone of the same sex. They knew the pain that I suffered from my homosexuality and wanted me to be happy.

src.adapt.480.low.Virginia_gay_marriage_021314.jpg
In typical form, gay activists gathered all around the country waving the rainbow banner with T-Shirts saying "Love is Love." Also in typical fashion liberal Democrats kept saying we got to be fair, we can't discriminate, after all, if two straight people can marry, why not two gay people? Those who opposed gay marriage were haters and bigots or just plain religious nuts. A huge number of Roman Catholics - 68%- defied their Church's own historical teaching on the sanctity of marriage between a man and a woman. Had they researched the issue on the web and studied why the Church opposed gay marriage they should have also opposed it on scientific grounds.

I came out staunchly opposed to gay marriage which totally shocked most of my friends and co-workers. I was very much concerned about the children of such a marriage if the couple adopted kids. I attended a liberal Lutheran Church at the time and they had a special meeting to discuss gay marriage. At that meeting, concern was similarly expressed about the treatment of children of homosexual married couples. The minister, Rev.Theiss, said not to worry that his cousin was gay and his partner had raised a child and that the child turned out ok and that nothing was wrong with homosexual couples adopting kids.

The homosexual community suffers from severe mental and physical pathologies. One in eleven white homosexuals has HIV, 25% of homosexuals are alcoholics, the suicide rate of homosexuals is 6 times the national average, 40% of homosexuals are mentally ill, anal cancer is 17 times the rate of anal cancer among straight men, and the act of anal intercourse is so dangerous that the Surgeon General has strongly advised that it not be practiced.

Let's not forget that anal sodomy was prohibited by most civilized countries until recently. I have done extensive research and found a link between anal intercourse and fecal seepage. Gay activists go to great lengths to deny this but I have investigated gay chat rooms and blogs have discovered that this is true. Many homosexual men take illegal drugs to allow for anal intercourse to take place. Dr. Stephen Goldstone in his book THE INS AND OUTS OF GAY SEX advises gay men with fecal seepage to wear tampons Dr. Goldstein is gay.

Gay activists typically blame society and discrimination for their mental and physical problems. In fact, gays have high rates of mental illness all across Western Europe and in New Zealand - all areas friendly to gays. This is a major international issue.

SWEDEN AND DENMARK

What about gay marriage in Sweden and Denmark where it has been legal since 1989? These two countries are very pro-gay.

swedish-gays.jpg
In LGBT-affirming Sweden (where the suicide victim's sexual orientation is recorded), suicide risk was found to be slightly elevated among female married couples and almost three times as high among male married couples, compared to heterosexual married couples European Journal of Epidemiology, July 2016.

Similarly in Denmark (in the first twelve years of legalized domestic partnerships), the age-adjusted suicide rate for same-sex registered domestic partner men was nearly eight times the rate for men in heterosexual marriages and nearly twice the rate for men who had never married. Social Psychiatry and Psychiatric Epidemiology, 2011.

Married lesbians in Denmark were more than six times more likely to commit suicide than married straight women. They were also at a 60 percent increased risk of death from cancer, for reasons not yet understood.

The rate of domestic violence among gay couples is 46% Nearly all gay couples allow for outside sex.

I have read real horror stories about lesbians raising young boys. Boys especially need a dad. This sociological fact is already well known.

Gay marriage is a total fraud.

Most gay men remain single.

I am glad to have remained single. At lEAST I AM STILL alive.
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Interesting. I too disagree with some of the points above, namely, the notion that gay is born-in. I think homosexuality is mostly caused, if not entirely, by trauma, usually sexual abuse at an early age. The author above kind of let's it slip a little with his stories from the boy scouts. Why does he still maintain that its born-in, yet, is quick to insist that this is a mental disorder? Well, perhaps, and I'm speculating, he might think that such a statement is too far, being a gay (or former gay) himself, after all, prove that gay is not born-in and a lot of their "legitimacy" vanishes. Apropos, a key theme I'm hearing is the lying. Once again, lies and lies and lies from this "community". Even when it should benefit them...anal sex is dangerous, among many other non-desirable things, it will make you have involuntary bowel movements. Yet, as he says, its hushed-up. Why? Because they have become slaves to their own impulsive desires. What more evidence do you need?

It pains me that much of society is "pro gay", a condition that has been largely foisted upon us unwillingly. I recall in the late 1990s, one day it seemed like, when it was like "hey gay is now good". It was as though someone just decreed this and after that everyone fell in line. Truth is it was some liberal progressive that did this. And, no, none of us fell in line. Perhaps this came from academia, perhaps from media, perhaps from a bureaucrat, probably a combination of all the aforementioned...what's important is that this was NEVER put to a vote. No one ever consulted me on this. And now, they're trying to do the same thing with cross dressing and this absurd notion that men can be women and women can be men. What pains me is that this is not a condition that is desirable. Its one thing to ensure that everyone in this country has rights. I have no issue with that and a gay person shouldn't be treated any different from a dam government agency than anyone else. But, I always ask, since this has been obtained, what's the fuss? In short, why are we celebrating, what the author is describing to be a very demented, deranged "lifestyle" that is built on angry, lies and lies and lies again, and impulsive sexual desires? No one should have to be gay if it can be avoided. I believe we need to shun this activity once again. It is out in the open and what has that gotten us? Acts of sodomy in the streets in front of children?
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Something curious I noticed is the contradiction between a lot of the two main lines of argument to justify homosexual behavior:

- Sexuality is something innate whether it be because of genetics, hormones, neuro-compostition, etc. and cannot be changed. Therefore, it is not only cruel but abusive and dangerous to attempt to alter it.

- Sexuality is fluid and changes all the time so trying to say it's innate and rigid is cruel and even abusive and dangerous.

Both points get bandied about constantly from the culture with no one ever pointing out the contradictions
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(11-07-2019 11:38 AM)Wutang Wrote:  Something curious I noticed is the contradiction between a lot of the two main lines of argument to justify homosexual behavior:

- Sexuality is something innate whether it be because of genetics, hormones, neuro-compostition, etc. and cannot be changed. Therefore, it is not only cruel but abusive and dangerous to attempt to alter it.

- Sexuality is fluid and changes all the time so trying to say it's innate and rigid is cruel and even abusive and dangerous.

Both points get bandied about constantly from the culture with no one ever pointing out the contradictions

Having 2 opposing views is part and parcel of modern propaganda. Islam is a wonderful religion of peace, Islam is feminist, but somehow Islam is not right about women.

We don't know why people become gay aside from abuse - and we certainly won't find out for real so long as the globohomos are in charge. After that then we may find out that it is connected to broken families, absentee fathers, too strong mothers/grandmothers raising boys, some hormonal disruption, low testosterone, hormone-mimickers in water etc. Who knows - even in an ideal system 1 in 10.000 would become gay as a quirk of nature and genetic experimentation, but currently we still know jack shit. We only know that the official view is bullshit and even contradictory.
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I don't understand what is an ex-gay?

Can you retract the penis after it's been in your ass?

How does that work?

Also, if you have had a cock in your mouth how do you rationalize that?
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The same way that ex-cons who had sex in the joint can forget about it, close it off and return to heterosexual behavior.

From what I read is that the urge remains to some degree, but some ex-gays then get married, have 3 kids and constant sex with the wives, so it's not impossible.
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(11-07-2019 11:38 AM)Wutang Wrote:  Something curious I noticed is the contradiction between a lot of the two main lines of argument to justify homosexual behavior:

- Sexuality is something innate whether it be because of genetics, hormones, neuro-compostition, etc. and cannot be changed. Therefore, it is not only cruel but abusive and dangerous to attempt to alter it.

- Sexuality is fluid and changes all the time so trying to say it's innate and rigid is cruel and even abusive and dangerous.

Both points get bandied about constantly from the culture with no one ever pointing out the contradictions

When you are testing reality against your emotions instead of testing your emotions against reality, there can be no contradictions.

The final arbiter of everything is how you are feeling at that moment.

“That sig BTW is a very asinine anti-family anti-parent quote. You live in a country where 40% of children grow up without a biological father, yet somehow “the greatest burden a child must bear is the unlived life of its parents”? Sorry but this is fruity Boomer nonsense.”

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(11-07-2019 12:32 PM)Simeon_Strangelight Wrote:  -get married
-have constant sex

Laugh2

Reddit /r/deadbedrooms says otherwise

Marriage is pretty much a beta bucks arrangement.

Chad gets it for free, beta bucks needs to offer resources, a ring and sign an agreement to get minimal star fish sex once a blue moon, make no mistake about it...

It's easy to be gay on the down low for most guys as even straight guys live in glorified platonic arrangements with zero sexual desire for them on their wife's end.

That's the real red pill...
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(11-07-2019 12:32 PM)Simeon_Strangelight Wrote:  The same way that ex-cons who had sex in the joint can forget about it, close it off and return to heterosexual behavior.

From what I read is that the urge remains to some degree, but some ex-gays then get married, have 3 kids and constant sex with the wives, so it's not impossible.

Homosexual activity is homosexual activity. There are ways to excuse it and I don't care how many kids they had after it's gay.

Honestly, if you are in prison or in some circumstance where you are denied sex then the natural inclination should be to find God. Not as a cope either.
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(11-07-2019 12:40 PM)debeguiled Wrote:  
(11-07-2019 11:38 AM)Wutang Wrote:  Something curious I noticed is the contradiction between a lot of the two main lines of argument to justify homosexual behavior:

- Sexuality is something innate whether it be because of genetics, hormones, neuro-compostition, etc. and cannot be changed. Therefore, it is not only cruel but abusive and dangerous to attempt to alter it.

- Sexuality is fluid and changes all the time so trying to say it's innate and rigid is cruel and even abusive and dangerous.

Both points get bandied about constantly from the culture with no one ever pointing out the contradictions

When you are testing reality against your emotions instead of testing your emotions against reality, there can be no contradictions.

The final arbiter of everything is how you are feeling at that moment.

I've actually seen one person online on either Tumblr or another one of those communities where a lot of these social justice types gather who explicitly said that - not as a way to condemn like you are (and rightfully so) but to say it's okay. "If you feel heterosexual one day and then gay the day after, THAT'S OKAY. My dude, sexuality is complex and we should embrace it all in it's different facets!" tard
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(11-07-2019 12:45 PM)SomeOneSomeWhere Wrote:  
(11-07-2019 12:32 PM)Simeon_Strangelight Wrote:  -get married
-have constant sex

Laugh2

Reddit /r/deadbedrooms says otherwise

Marriage is pretty much a beta bucks arrangement.

Chad gets it for free, beta bucks needs to offer resources, a ring and sign an agreement to get minimal star fish sex once a blue moon, make no mistake about it...

It's easy to be gay on the down low for most guys as even straight guys live in glorified platonic arrangements with zero sexual desire for them on their wife's end.

That's the real red pill...

Exactly this. See also /r/survivinginfidelity and /r/marriedredpill

These should be required reading for any man considering marriage.
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(11-07-2019 02:38 PM)Wutang Wrote:  
(11-07-2019 12:40 PM)debeguiled Wrote:  
(11-07-2019 11:38 AM)Wutang Wrote:  Something curious I noticed is the contradiction between a lot of the two main lines of argument to justify homosexual behavior:

- Sexuality is something innate whether it be because of genetics, hormones, neuro-compostition, etc. and cannot be changed. Therefore, it is not only cruel but abusive and dangerous to attempt to alter it.

- Sexuality is fluid and changes all the time so trying to say it's innate and rigid is cruel and even abusive and dangerous.

Both points get bandied about constantly from the culture with no one ever pointing out the contradictions

When you are testing reality against your emotions instead of testing your emotions against reality, there can be no contradictions.

The final arbiter of everything is how you are feeling at that moment.

I've actually seen one person online on either Tumblr or another one of those communities where a lot of these social justice types gather who explicitly said that - not as a way to condemn like you are (and rightfully so) but to say it's okay. "If you feel heterosexual one day and then gay the day after, THAT'S OKAY. My dude, sexuality is complex and we should embrace it all in it's different facets!" tard

   

“That sig BTW is a very asinine anti-family anti-parent quote. You live in a country where 40% of children grow up without a biological father, yet somehow “the greatest burden a child must bear is the unlived life of its parents”? Sorry but this is fruity Boomer nonsense.”

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