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RE: I want nothing to do with swedish women in terms of relationships
(12-24-2019 07:15 AM)Ghost93 Wrote:  
(12-07-2019 12:19 AM)No More Mr. Soy Boy Wrote:  
(12-06-2019 02:55 PM)Ghost93 Wrote:  All white women are like that. Do you really think women in South Europe are different? Or in East Europe? Or in the USA? Canada? Australia?

This generation of girls, the 18yo of 2019, are the same pretty much everywhere. Your only possibility is to meet a nice girl through your social circle.
You'll never a good girl through dating apps, clubs, bars or during a night out.

I live in South Europe and the girls here are just as feminist, if not more, than Swedish women. And they sleep with good looking guys all the time given the chance. The same is true in East Europe, actually I think they are worse since in countries like Ukraine they are so materialistic and have very strong gold digging tendencies.

Moreover I think the blame is on us. If we elect cucked politicians that favor women in everything then we can't complain.

I assume you don't have much experience of either the North or the East to make such claims.
I've lived in 6 different countries in Europe (among France and Sweden) and I've been to Eastern Europe more times than I can remember now.

I'd say there is still a very big difference even though I've noticed that more girls in Eastern Europe have also started to adapt to superficial values they got from Instagram.

Sweden is a league on its on own though. I think it's definitely possible to find some decent women in Eastern Europe, meanwhile the chances in Sweden are extremly low. And I have years of experience with both to say that. I notice it in the values with the girls I've been dating.

Swedish women are pretty much like OP claimed in his first post, meanwhile I've met many Hungarian, Macedonian and Romanian women who's had much more conservative values. It's one of the reasons I've gone back so many times because it's refreshing to meet higher quality women in Eastern Europe when you live in the west.

The Eastern are also more protected by their families. On nights out I've met girls there who were like 21 and had to message their parents all the time meanwhile I've met parents in Sweden who's just been laughing and been supportive to their daughters when they've found out their daughter slept with some stranger she just met.

You have the highest divorce rates in the world in Sweden, Stockholm is (or at least recently was) considered the world's capital for singles because there are so many and Tinder and night clubs ONS is a very common thing.

If you go to, say Skopje, that isn't really the case.

The (((mainstream media))) in Sweden is also much more extreme if you compare to Eastern Europe and even France which has a big impact on Swedish women because a lot of them are light versions of Greta Thunberg, call themselves feminists and think women are just as good as men at everything and so on.

I do have experience.
I've worked as a holiday entertainer for five years when I was younger in Italy, Spain and Greece and the "east european girls are better for marriage" is such bullshit.
When I worked in Fuerteventura (Spain) me and my buddies had agreements on how to split girls from specific countries.
Wanna know what were those countries? It wasn't Sweden, wasn't the UK, wasn't Denmark or Germany.......it was Russia, Poland and Ukraine.
Unfortunately, there weren't many ukrainian girls so we mainly splitted girls from Poland and Russia.
We didn't choose those countries casually....they were those were the girls were the easiest to bang. Yes, much easier than the scandinavian countries.
And we banged lots of them, some even had their boyfriend with them in the same hotel. That's how high their moral values are.
So please stop praising those girls....they aren't marriage material and not better than Western girls. They are just easier and that's why many people go there instead of going in their sex vacations in Sweden, Switzerland, Germany, Netherland or Italy.

Russian/Ukrainian girls are also very gold diggerish and relationships with them are very transactional. I have no idea how that is a good thing. For me it's extremely bad.
And you are very deluded if you think those girls had less sexual partners than western girls. If they are that "serious" you wouldn't have a whole continent going there for easy bangs. They just have lower standards and their materialism make every man able to get them if he has some money.

EE girls usually are only worth for short term relationships...you get easy sex and then you move on. Unless you want a trophy wife that consider you a walking ATM and spend all your money in stupid, expensive, useless things.

In Western Europe there are still many girls who have good values, and if they want to have their own career that's not a bad trait. For me it's pretty good...it means the girl is smart, educated and want to earn her own money and not just spending yours.

In the past I had some very good relationships with italian, french and norwegian girls and I'd take everyday for a long term relationship that a hot but dumb and materialistic EE girl

Based on my experience with FSU girls and a few Italian and German girls I'd have to say...yeah, you're pretty much spot on here. If you must have a Eurochick, find a nice western European and take your chances, unless you have millions in the bank and very strong game. The EE girls look nice on your arm and are fun for a while, but you're asking for it if you marry them.

A Russian girl I was close friends with once told me right out "we (Russian women) do not love without material things." Or, as another American guy I knew who had experience with Russian and Ukrainian women once put it "If you're even 10% a decent person, you have no chance against these women."

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(12-24-2019 07:15 AM)Ghost93 Wrote:  I do have experience.
I've worked as a holiday entertainer for five years when I was younger in Italy, Spain and Greece and the "east european girls are better for marriage" is such bullshit.
When I worked in Fuerteventura (Spain) me and my buddies had agreements on how to split girls from specific countries.
Wanna know what were those countries? It wasn't Sweden, wasn't the UK, wasn't Denmark or Germany.......it was Russia, Poland and Ukraine.
Unfortunately, there weren't many ukrainian girls so we mainly splitted girls from Poland and Russia.
We didn't choose those countries casually....they were those were the girls were the easiest to bang. Yes, much easier than the scandinavian countries.
And we banged lots of them, some even had their boyfriend with them in the same hotel. That's how high their moral values are.
So please stop praising those girls....they aren't marriage material and not better than Western girls. They are just easier and that's why many people go there instead of going in their sex vacations in Sweden, Switzerland, Germany, Netherland or Italy.

Russian/Ukrainian girls are also very gold diggerish and relationships with them are very transactional. I have no idea how that is a good thing. For me it's extremely bad.
And you are very deluded if you think those girls had less sexual partners than western girls. If they are that "serious" you wouldn't have a whole continent going there for easy bangs. They just have lower standards and their materialism make every man able to get them if he has some money.

EE girls usually are only worth for short term relationships...you get easy sex and then you move on. Unless you want a trophy wife that consider you a walking ATM and spend all your money in stupid, expensive, useless things.

In Western Europe there are still many girls who have good values, and if they want to have their own career that's not a bad trait. For me it's pretty good...it means the girl is smart, educated and want to earn her own money and not just spending yours.

In the past I had some very good relationships with italian, french and norwegian girls and I'd take everyday for a long term relationship that a hot but dumb and materialistic EE girl

Seems like your only perception of this topic is based on your experience in Fueraventura. It hasn't given you the best view of what reality actually looks like. I've met Eastern European women in their 20's who wouldn't even be allowed by their parents to travel there.

But if you had actually lived in Stockholm or any other major city in Sweden compared to Eastern Europe, I bet you'll too see there's a big difference. Even though I would agree that most women in Eastern Europe are not even close to marriage material, but the ones that are in Europe, will to a large degree in EE and certainly not in feminazi regimes like Sweden.

But hey, whatever floats your boat man. If you think you got a bigger chance in Stockholm than in, say, Ostrava, go for it.
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Eastern European women might be the best looking women in the world. However, that is subjective. Many posters here put those women on a pedestal and seem to attribute everything that could be positive about women to Eastern European women. Even men in those countries are portrayed as "alpha", stronger and better than Western men, which I have not seen any evidence of, although I have experience from Eastern European countries and also have worked in Poland. Seems like some more self-respect would not be bad.

It looks like a fairy tale projection of what men here desire that is attributed to Eastern Europe. In reality, several of those societies are almost falling apart. Institutions are failing. There is no rule of law, police are a joke and a bunch of fools doing everything they can to get the next bribe, education is sub-par compared to Western universities (yes, I haven even read that Eastern Europeans are supposed to be better educated overall than population in Western countries, which is quite the joke), health is bad with high death rates at relatively young ages and hospitals do not have the capacity to cater to the needs of the people. There is depopulation in countries as Latvia and Ukraine, because young people there want to leave for better opportunities elsewhere. Still, these societies are seen as better than those in e.g. Sweden and the USA. I mean, if you want to find a virgin and/or a very conservative Christian fundamentalist woman that will be a housewife, as seems to be the wish around here among many posters, it should be possible in the United States, where there are many of those religious groups among for example the Christian right. No need to go to Eastern Europe for that.

Having said that, I recognize issues said about e.g. Swedish women. There is a strong tendency that they are not that feminine in their demeanor. But, to me the oversimplified perspective on Eastern Europe found here, the uncritical perspective on Eastern European countries and deference to Eastern European culture as a model is ridiculous.
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RE: I want nothing to do with swedish women in terms of relationships
(12-24-2019 08:34 PM)No More Mr. Soy Boy Wrote:  
(12-24-2019 07:15 AM)Ghost93 Wrote:  I do have experience.
I've worked as a holiday entertainer for five years when I was younger in Italy, Spain and Greece and the "east european girls are better for marriage" is such bullshit.
When I worked in Fuerteventura (Spain) me and my buddies had agreements on how to split girls from specific countries.
Wanna know what were those countries? It wasn't Sweden, wasn't the UK, wasn't Denmark or Germany.......it was Russia, Poland and Ukraine.
Unfortunately, there weren't many ukrainian girls so we mainly splitted girls from Poland and Russia.
We didn't choose those countries casually....they were those were the girls were the easiest to bang. Yes, much easier than the scandinavian countries.
And we banged lots of them, some even had their boyfriend with them in the same hotel. That's how high their moral values are.
So please stop praising those girls....they aren't marriage material and not better than Western girls. They are just easier and that's why many people go there instead of going in their sex vacations in Sweden, Switzerland, Germany, Netherland or Italy.

Russian/Ukrainian girls are also very gold diggerish and relationships with them are very transactional. I have no idea how that is a good thing. For me it's extremely bad.
And you are very deluded if you think those girls had less sexual partners than western girls. If they are that "serious" you wouldn't have a whole continent going there for easy bangs. They just have lower standards and their materialism make every man able to get them if he has some money.

EE girls usually are only worth for short term relationships...you get easy sex and then you move on. Unless you want a trophy wife that consider you a walking ATM and spend all your money in stupid, expensive, useless things.

In Western Europe there are still many girls who have good values, and if they want to have their own career that's not a bad trait. For me it's pretty good...it means the girl is smart, educated and want to earn her own money and not just spending yours.

In the past I had some very good relationships with italian, french and norwegian girls and I'd take everyday for a long term relationship that a hot but dumb and materialistic EE girl

Seems like your only perception of this topic is based on your experience in Fueraventura. It hasn't given you the best view of what reality actually looks like. I've met Eastern European women in their 20's who wouldn't even be allowed by their parents to travel there.

But if you had actually lived in Stockholm or any other major city in Sweden compared to Eastern Europe, I bet you'll too see there's a big difference. Even though I would agree that most women in Eastern Europe are not even close to marriage material, but the ones that are in Europe, will to a large degree in EE and certainly not in feminazi regimes like Sweden.

But hey, whatever floats your boat man. If you think you got a bigger chance in Stockholm than in, say, Ostrava, go for it.

I wish it was just in Fuerteventura, I traveled in East Europe quite extensively in the past and a couple years ago I was in the "honeymoon phase" with russian/ukrainian girls.
Took me a while to realize those girls were pretty bad, initially I was blinded by their beauty which I admit is really high.
But eventually I got tired of their personality and attitude, relationships with them feel empty and boring. And I also don't like relationships where there is a hidden transactional feeling to it, or where the mood of the girl is based on what you can buy for her.
Russian/Ukrainian girls are the most materialistic girls I've ever met and I'm really put off by that and they are definitely not conservative about their sexual life...it's just a myth.

Now, I'm not saying that Western Europe is full of good girls. Quite the opposite. But you can definitely meet a girl worth of a relationship there. You just can't meet her from Tinder, Bumble or bars/clubs. Gotta use your social circle, that's how I met the good french/italian/norwegian girl I was in a relationship in the past.

Here in France for example there are a lot of nice girls around (especially outside Paris), really sweet and feminine but in the right way. For me feminine doesn't mean short skirt and high heels...it's in how a girl behaves. They may be dressed in Zara and H&M but they have some charm and their disposition is nice. They also aren't really materialistic (they are quite stingy tbh) but I like that. It means they like you for who you are instead of for your money. And yes I also appreciate the fact they are ambitious educated, smart and want to have a career, for me that's important....it means they don't want to leech of you.
They aren't as hot as the EE girls but for a LTR I much prefer them. For ONS and short relationships yeah I do value beauty over anything else so EE girls do have a place.

I've never been to Sweden, but one of my ex girlfriend was norwegian and she was pretty nice....don't think there is much difference between Norway and Sweden
I think the West isn't as gloomy as some of you make it out to be and the East isn't a paradise....in the end it's a matter of taste
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(12-26-2019 12:45 AM)Ghost93 Wrote:  I wish it was just in Fuerteventura, I traveled in East Europe quite extensively in the past and a couple years ago I was in the "honeymoon phase" with russian/ukrainian girls.
Took me a while to realize those girls were pretty bad, initially I was blinded by their beauty which I admit is really high.
But eventually I got tired of their personality and attitude, relationships with them feel empty and boring. And I also don't like relationships where there is a hidden transactional feeling to it, or where the mood of the girl is based on what you can buy for her.
Russian/Ukrainian girls are the most materialistic girls I've ever met and I'm really put off by that and they are definitely not conservative about their sexual life...it's just a myth.

Now, I'm not saying that Western Europe is full of good girls. Quite the opposite. But you can definitely meet a girl worth of a relationship there. You just can't meet her from Tinder, Bumble or bars/clubs. Gotta use your social circle, that's how I met the good french/italian/norwegian girl I was in a relationship in the past.

The "honeymoon phase." That's exactly right, that's what happens to western guys when they first arrive in EE and are blown away with the beauty of the women and their superficially traditional nature. I remember bitterly defending Russian and Ukrainian women against all criticism when I had been over there for a year or so. Then I married one of them and took her back to the US, and now here I am agreeing with you. Not just based on my experience, but from what I've seen of other American and Canadian guys who've married women from the FSU. The thing is that it would be almost impossible for most guys to see without experiencing it themselves so I get why guys who are still in that "honeymoon phase" think EE women are marriage material.

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(11-02-2019 06:36 PM)Realbor Wrote:  
(11-02-2019 06:26 PM)Avey Wrote:  I say always try to date within your own culture, but the Swedish culture seems to have morphed into something degenerate beyond belief.
Don't be the guy who goes after some submissive Asian, try the church or what's left of it in Sweden. perhaps other Scandinavian countries. Denmark is better from what I've heard.

Let me tell you, sweden is 100% done and over with. EVERY girl here, wants mass immigration, feminism, they are literally out of control at this point. They have all fucked so many guys, they have no loyality, they cheat constantly, they split families everywhere.

Maybe Denmark is better, I sure hope so, sweden is clown world 100% at this point.


When and why do you think so many Swedish women have become this way? What segment of the Swedish female population do you think acts this way?

I have my own ideas, curious to hear what Scandinavian men on the forum think.
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(11-02-2019 05:17 PM)Oscar Henri Wrote:  
(11-02-2019 04:37 PM)Realbor Wrote:  99% of them are extremely promiscous, flirts openly with tons of different guys, almost none of them want kids in a "young age" (Before 30), most of them have had tons of different boyfriends and fuck buddies.

Last weekend I was with a girl, who I had been in contact with/dated for a couple of months, then she tells me she got 4 fucking "fuck buddies" who frequently comes over to fuck her.

Am I supposed to invest in a relationship with a woman who have four different fuck buddies who comes over to fuck her after ive been there?

No thankyou.

Swedish women are completely insane these days, utterly fucking insane, Im DONE with them, forever.


Which country do you recommend? Im in my early 30s, I want kids before Im 40, maybe 35, i want a stable, long term relationship. Im scandinavian, I look good, Im about to have a pretty good income and I believe in the "old school system" where the man, is a man, and the woman is a woman.

Recommendations?

Dude, you think other girls are better? Well, muslim women are better. Try a Pakistani woman, it might fit you.

Lol why do you say Pakistani girls? Pakistani women are typically married off in arranged marriages by parents to other Pakistanis.
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(12-27-2019 02:46 PM)Design Engineer Wrote:  
(11-02-2019 06:36 PM)Realbor Wrote:  
(11-02-2019 06:26 PM)Avey Wrote:  I say always try to date within your own culture, but the Swedish culture seems to have morphed into something degenerate beyond belief.
Don't be the guy who goes after some submissive Asian, try the church or what's left of it in Sweden. perhaps other Scandinavian countries. Denmark is better from what I've heard.

Let me tell you, sweden is 100% done and over with. EVERY girl here, wants mass immigration, feminism, they are literally out of control at this point. They have all fucked so many guys, they have no loyality, they cheat constantly, they split families everywhere.

Maybe Denmark is better, I sure hope so, sweden is clown world 100% at this point.


When and why do you think so many Swedish women have become this way? What segment of the Swedish female population do you think acts this way?

I have my own ideas, curious to hear what Scandinavian men on the forum think.

Why did American or any other western group of women become this way?

We now have white American couples getting pregnant so they can have an abortion for fun.Puke May that shit never spread to Sweden.
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(12-27-2019 04:05 PM)Oscar Henri Wrote:  We now have white American couples getting pregnant so they can have an abortion for fun.

^Never heard of this shit and cant find any refernces...Citation please

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(12-27-2019 04:17 PM)PapayaTapper Wrote:  
(12-27-2019 04:05 PM)Oscar Henri Wrote:  We now have white American couples getting pregnant so they can have an abortion for fun.

^Never heard of this shit and cant find any refernces...Citation please

https://nationalfile.com/reddit-post-sho...abortions/
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Ghost93 is spot on re: Chasing EE girls. The caveat is, a woman with good morals is universal and in small numbers in all countries. There are no short cuts in finding her. A cheap plane ticket won't change that.
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(12-26-2019 12:45 AM)Ghost93 Wrote:  
(12-24-2019 08:34 PM)No More Mr. Soy Boy Wrote:  
(12-24-2019 07:15 AM)Ghost93 Wrote:  I do have experience.
I've worked as a holiday entertainer for five years when I was younger in Italy, Spain and Greece and the "east european girls are better for marriage" is such bullshit.
When I worked in Fuerteventura (Spain) me and my buddies had agreements on how to split girls from specific countries.
Wanna know what were those countries? It wasn't Sweden, wasn't the UK, wasn't Denmark or Germany.......it was Russia, Poland and Ukraine.
Unfortunately, there weren't many ukrainian girls so we mainly splitted girls from Poland and Russia.
We didn't choose those countries casually....they were those were the girls were the easiest to bang. Yes, much easier than the scandinavian countries.
And we banged lots of them, some even had their boyfriend with them in the same hotel. That's how high their moral values are.
So please stop praising those girls....they aren't marriage material and not better than Western girls. They are just easier and that's why many people go there instead of going in their sex vacations in Sweden, Switzerland, Germany, Netherland or Italy.

Russian/Ukrainian girls are also very gold diggerish and relationships with them are very transactional. I have no idea how that is a good thing. For me it's extremely bad.
And you are very deluded if you think those girls had less sexual partners than western girls. If they are that "serious" you wouldn't have a whole continent going there for easy bangs. They just have lower standards and their materialism make every man able to get them if he has some money.

EE girls usually are only worth for short term relationships...you get easy sex and then you move on. Unless you want a trophy wife that consider you a walking ATM and spend all your money in stupid, expensive, useless things.

In Western Europe there are still many girls who have good values, and if they want to have their own career that's not a bad trait. For me it's pretty good...it means the girl is smart, educated and want to earn her own money and not just spending yours.

In the past I had some very good relationships with italian, french and norwegian girls and I'd take everyday for a long term relationship that a hot but dumb and materialistic EE girl

Seems like your only perception of this topic is based on your experience in Fueraventura. It hasn't given you the best view of what reality actually looks like. I've met Eastern European women in their 20's who wouldn't even be allowed by their parents to travel there.

But if you had actually lived in Stockholm or any other major city in Sweden compared to Eastern Europe, I bet you'll too see there's a big difference. Even though I would agree that most women in Eastern Europe are not even close to marriage material, but the ones that are in Europe, will to a large degree in EE and certainly not in feminazi regimes like Sweden.

But hey, whatever floats your boat man. If you think you got a bigger chance in Stockholm than in, say, Ostrava, go for it.

I wish it was just in Fuerteventura, I traveled in East Europe quite extensively in the past and a couple years ago I was in the "honeymoon phase" with russian/ukrainian girls.
Took me a while to realize those girls were pretty bad, initially I was blinded by their beauty which I admit is really high.
But eventually I got tired of their personality and attitude, relationships with them feel empty and boring. And I also don't like relationships where there is a hidden transactional feeling to it, or where the mood of the girl is based on what you can buy for her.
Russian/Ukrainian girls are the most materialistic girls I've ever met and I'm really put off by that and they are definitely not conservative about their sexual life...it's just a myth.

Now, I'm not saying that Western Europe is full of good girls. Quite the opposite. But you can definitely meet a girl worth of a relationship there. You just can't meet her from Tinder, Bumble or bars/clubs. Gotta use your social circle, that's how I met the good french/italian/norwegian girl I was in a relationship in the past.

Here in France for example there are a lot of nice girls around (especially outside Paris), really sweet and feminine but in the right way. For me feminine doesn't mean short skirt and high heels...it's in how a girl behaves. They may be dressed in Zara and H&M but they have some charm and their disposition is nice. They also aren't really materialistic (they are quite stingy tbh) but I like that. It means they like you for who you are instead of for your money. And yes I also appreciate the fact they are ambitious educated, smart and want to have a career, for me that's important....it means they don't want to leech of you.
They aren't as hot as the EE girls but for a LTR I much prefer them. For ONS and short relationships yeah I do value beauty over anything else so EE girls do have a place.

I've never been to Sweden, but one of my ex girlfriend was norwegian and she was pretty nice....don't think there is much difference between Norway and Sweden
I think the West isn't as gloomy as some of you make it out to be and the East isn't a paradise....in the end it's a matter of taste

It is not hard to find a relationship in West Europe. It is, however, quite the challenge, to find a woman who would like a relationship involving kids, and is actually able to have them naturally. University educated west EU girls are the worst candidates for an LTR involving children, since their ovaries have dried up by the time they decided that they want to settle down.
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(12-26-2019 12:45 AM)Ghost93 Wrote:  snip

Absolutely spot on. Can second as a long term ukraine veteren. The "body count" is not lower (usually) and even with the nicest girls there's an underlying transactional feeling. I can't stand the materialism there too.
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RE: I want nothing to do with swedish women in terms of relationships
Riga, Latvia.

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“ When and why do you think so many Swedish women have become this way? What segment of the Swedish female population do you think acts this way?”.

Sign up to Happy Pancake dating website and read some of the profiles or have a conversation with the women. It’s enough to scare you off for life. There must be some decent women in Sweden as in other countries, but finding a good one might take some work. Norway or Denmark I’ve heard better things about but I loved Sweden the few times I’ve visited. If they can reverse climate change perhaps they can reverse feminism too?
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Former football player Luís Figo married Swedish Helen Svedin in 2001. They are still together and they seem so much in love.

They met in Barcelona, he is rich and over-the-average looking. She is a model and is hard to find a single negative aspect about her physical appearance.

What are the odds?

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I think Central Europe and the Balkans are just about the right balance between quality of life and attractive women. The Baltics too, although they are catching up with Scandinavia a bit, it seems. If you have a higher % of pleasant and respectful women per capita you will also have a higher chance of meeting one or more of them. That along with the warm weather in some of these countries makes them great for building up a life and a strong social circle.

If you are counting Ukraine and Russia to Eastern Europe things do get a bit tricky. The reputation of the men that would go there is just not the best and that image cannot be easily reversed. There are some very pleasant women there, but there are also downright psychos and material girls, that is true. It is a rough life and people act accordingly.

I am biased, mind, and I have seen some Swedish unicorns (studied my Masters degree there) but they were all snapped up very early, usually before the university even started.
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Try some Norwegian from small towns / villages. You might find good girls. Met a few.
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(01-11-2020 08:49 PM)Castillo Wrote:  If they can reverse climate change perhaps they can reverse feminism too?

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Bravo señor !
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EE women can be great if you re willing to live there long time. You wont find a good wife during a short trip though. As for the EE societies being broken... please. Nothing is more broken than todays America. The moral social structure of most EE countries is still intact. EE women dont go to war with their own men... dont hold feminist protests, dont raise their sons to be "gender neutral", dont blame men for having "white male privilage" etc. It was the western black woman who started the metoo movement remember. There is a lot good marriage material girls in EE but most of you would simply never want to spend a few years of your life in EE in order to find one.
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(12-26-2019 08:22 AM)bucky Wrote:  The "honeymoon phase." That's exactly right, that's what happens to western guys when they first arrive in EE and are blown away with the beauty of the women and their superficially traditional nature. I remember bitterly defending Russian and Ukrainian women against all criticism when I had been over there for a year or so. Then I married one of them and took her back to the US, and now here I am agreeing with you. Not just based on my experience, but from what I've seen of other American and Canadian guys who've married women from the FSU. The thing is that it would be almost impossible for most guys to see without experiencing it themselves so I get why guys who are still in that "honeymoon phase" think EE women are marriage material.


Dem evil eurochicks man! You said yourself your first Ukrainian girlfriend was a keeper but you let her go cause you wanted to chase hotties. Yeah most western men are blown away by the beauty of EE women. But they quickly learn that the hottest Russian chicks are not compatible and do not make good girlfriends. Somehow western men seem incapable of just changing their social circle and target different types of girls. They will continue to date the hottest most challenging most popular chick no matter what red flags they see. Then if shit doesn’t work out they’ll trash EE women on all forum threads. Im pretty sure during your stay in EE you came across decent women who were not the stunners you wanted. Somehow an EE girl cannot be reasonably attractive, she has to be drop dead gorgeous for a westerner to give her a chance.
I believe most western men deeply despise EE due to cold war stereotypes and consider it almost an act of heroism, a huge act of sacrifice for them to come to a country like Russia so they expect local supermodels to drop on their knees. When that doesn’t happen they get frustrated and can never just date a nice local girl who looks like an above average white American girl but with a better attitude. Yet when they come to Pattaya or Mexico they are willing to date even mediocre chubby women. Funny how that works out. If men had given EE women the same treatment and respect they give to latino and Asian women and had the same beauty standards for them, you would have the same good results.
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(03-02-2020 02:56 PM)Bitter End Wrote:  I think Central Europe and the Balkans are just about the right balance between quality of life and attractive women. The Baltics too, although they are catching up with Scandinavia a bit, it seems. If you have a higher % of pleasant and respectful women per capita you will also have a higher chance of meeting one or more of them. That along with the warm weather in some of these countries makes them great for building up a life and a strong social circle.

If you are counting Ukraine and Russia to Eastern Europe things do get a bit tricky. The reputation of the men that would go there is just not the best and that image cannot be easily reversed. There are some very pleasant women there, but there are also downright psychos and material girls, that is true. It is a rough life and people act accordingly.

I am biased, mind, and I have seen some Swedish unicorns (studied my Masters degree there) but they were all snapped up very early, usually before the university even started.

You ve probably never lived in Russia or ukraine. What you talk about is just random internet stories and made up stereotypes. In Russia Ive never seen 70 year old Americans hooking up with 18 year old prostitues and marrying them like you see in SEA. All that "reputation" talk is just in your head. Simply many ppl in the west think its wrong for a modern day white man to love a white woman from a less privileged culture. that is oh so wrong. but an old guy coming to philippines to have sex with underage girls or ladyboys is not wrong... doesnt hurt the mens reputation right...

most of the hate against EE comes from two sources: western feminists who hate EE women and stereotype them as golddiggers and shame men who date them out of fear of losing us, western men, their slaves. the second source is the western politicians who simply see Russia as "evil" and will portray russian women as prostitutes even if they never met one. Countries like Russia, Georgia, Armenia, Ajzerbadjan, Serbia, Croatia, Montenegro, Belarus have some of the most conservative women and the lowest prositution rates. Simply incomparable with slutty and promiscious swedish and german women. Ukraine, Moldova, Romania and the Baltics are worse... they have quit a few slutty women there but even there Im sure its possible to find a nice girl.
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Russian women on summer holiday? Not exactly the faces of chastity. The local barkeepers were giving themselves negative scores when they got one. Let's agree that it is a huge country and it is hard to make good generalizations.

I agree with most of what you said, but you cannot seem to take any criticism concerning Russia, while the "materialistic Svetlana" stories are not exactly rare for a reason. At least in Poland and Hungary you can find more girls speaking English. Without the language all the good girls next door are not accessible.
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(03-05-2020 03:53 PM)Bitter End Wrote:  Russian women on summer holiday? Not exactly the faces of chastity. The local barkeepers were giving themselves negative scores when they got one. Let's agree that it is a huge country and it is hard to make good generalizations.

I agree with most of what you said, but you cannot seem to take any criticism concerning Russia, while the "materialistic Svetlana" stories are not exactly rare for a reason. At least in Poland and Hungary you can find more girls speaking English. Without the language all the good girls next door are not accessible.

I take criticism about Russian girls and I critisize them myself. In my thread "wife hunting in Russia" I describe plenty of girls you should stay away from. What bothers me is that most men will never go there, not even for a few months but are slamming and trashing these women based on stuff they heard from someone or some vacationer they met. Not to mention that most of the "Russian" women you met abroad are Ukrainian anyway. You guys see women in the anglosphere being the biggest sluts in the world. They are literally destroying the western society but somehow EE girls get trashed because some EE girl acted promiscious. I just dont understand the hatred against fellow white women who come from modest economic background in EE while SEA bargirls get a pass.
there are so many degenerate cultures and women out there that make your average Russian chick look like a perfect wife material. Ive been to UK, I ve been to the US. I ve seen what type of girls you deal with in the anglospehere. Even in my native Germany the situation is significantly better. Allthough its hard to find a young German girl willing to marry an elder man and choose marriage above career. But at least in Germany we have some clean girls you can have fun with. In the anglosphere? forget it.
As for the Central European girls, yes they speak better English and life there is more convenient for a western expat. But they also have less slut shaming, less boundaries aqnd more dating options.
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