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RE: Blaming men or women for the harder dating market
To me, it doesn't matter whose fault it is. All I know is that the vast majority of women are risky long term partners, and a pain in the ass to be around. We all already know how many of them have bitchy attitudes, destroy their bodies, lack any femininity and fuck too many dudes, but a red flag that gets overlooked is their addiction to attention and how modern society enables it to insane levels. I cannot be with a women that's used online dating, or has her tits and ass all over Instagram, Facebook, etc. Any social media is a red flag. Same for a woman that has had sex with any man that wasn't a long term boyfriend. Even then, a virgin is much better.

I can't emphasize enough how amazing a stress free, day to day life is. There's no way in hell I'm risking that for some modern broad. It kind of works out well, because the less you want them, the more they want you. They aren't changing anytime soon though, and I'd feel like a total sucker committing to over 99% of the women I see out and about. Hell, even having sex with most of them is risky and unappealing.

The great thing about being a man is that we adapt, and don't need another person to make us happy. Many men want a woman, but women legitimately need a man or they'll go insane as they age.
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(11-05-2019 07:10 PM)Realbor Wrote:  And what is the REASON for the current male thrist, if I may ask? You guys just dont see it, blinded.

The culture in the West is highly sexual and every marketer from the car industry to the PUA guru is selling the promise of sex but like every liberalised economy or marketplace, the unit of value flows upwards until hoarded by a few.

Women delaying marriage until 29.9 is civilisation altering and it means most men living extended adolescent lives until their early 30s are just ‘getting lucky’ now and again.

It’s like the owner of an ‘all you can eat’ buffet salting his loss leading food so the customers are led to purchase high margin drinks to quench the manufactured thirst. But if a celebrity came into his restaurant the owner would probably quench his thirst for free.

Don't spend all your energy on sex and all your money on women; they have destroyed kings. (Proverbs 31:3 GNB)
11-06-2019 12:08 AM
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The conventional wisdom is that women who are childless tend to go a bit crazy, but the truth is marriage and a child is not a cure to a broken woman's insanity any more than sex/game is a cure for a mentally ill man.
11-06-2019 03:01 AM
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It's not primarily either men or women that's to blame, it's the malicious social engineers making each unattractive to the other.

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(11-06-2019 03:52 AM)MichaelWitcoff Wrote:  It's not primarily either men or women that's to blame, it's the malicious social engineers making each unattractive to the other.

The liberal debt based economic system needs liberal social mores. The economy makes men and women unattractive to each other. Recently women were blaming men for not being economically attractive enough (58% richer than they are).

Don't spend all your energy on sex and all your money on women; they have destroyed kings. (Proverbs 31:3 GNB)
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Quote:The great thing about being a man is that we adapt, and don't need another person to make us happy.

I see things like this come up in the manosphere, and also stuff about how men re more logical, have more integrity and honor, etc. The thing is, people are thinking of some idealized red pill mega-alpha.

The average male that I meet behaves almost as modern women. Whiny, dishonest, weak, attention-seeking, etc.
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(11-06-2019 09:43 AM)WombRaider Wrote:  
Quote:The great thing about being a man is that we adapt, and don't need another person to make us happy.

I see things like this come up in the manosphere, and also stuff about how men re more logical, have more integrity and honor, etc. The thing is, people are thinking of some idealized red pill mega-alpha.

The average male that I meet behaves almost as modern women. Whiny, dishonest, weak, attention-seeking, etc.

I agree with you, but I meant that mentally a man can learn to be content, or even prefer a life, without committing to a woman. The numbers are still small, but more and more men are waking up to the bad deal we're getting.

Long term, women cannot be content without commitment from a man. Lying to themselves is only going to hurt them moving forward, and we'll see a lot of miserable women.
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(11-06-2019 12:27 PM)TigOlBitties Wrote:  I agree with you, but I meant that mentally a man can learn to be content, or even prefer a life, without committing to a woman. The numbers are still small, but more and more men are waking up to the bad deal we're getting.

Long term, women cannot be content without commitment from a man. Lying to themselves is only going to hurt them moving forward, and we'll see a lot of miserable women.

Again, I see this kind of sentiment in the manosphere a lot. What I see in reality is that men are the thirstiest creatures on planet Earth. I see older guys desperately trying to hit up anything with a vagina on Facebook. One time I built up a fake Facebook profile for an internet marketing project I was working on. The profile was of a cute Asian woman in her 20s. Every time I logged on, messages came in non-stop from guys ages 20 to 70. I had to block all messages just to get any work done.

I haven't seen many examples of guys who are content to live out their lives with no female company (gays excepted). Of course there are a few here and there. But there are a few women here and there who are content to live that way, too. I have had some female relatives who stayed single after being widowed, and they were adept at creating a full life with church, relatives, and friends.

Any manosphere tropes about men being more rational, having honor, "bros before hos" and the like are mainly wishful thinking. The vast majority of men are pathetic and would sell you to ISIS for a piece of pussy.
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And again, I am not disagreeing with you about the pathetic state and thirst from most men. What I am saying is that biologically we do not do need to commit to a woman to be happy. The vast majority of women are the opposite because of the way the sexes have evolved. They need a man's commitment, whether they admit it or not. And no marriage doesn't have to mean no female company.

The programming is so deep, that most men don't realize this at all, or until it's too late. Fortunately I have noticed a small, but still noticeable amount of men that are avoiding the plantation. But it will take a long time for more to wake up.

A widowed woman is not what I'm talking about either. I am talking about women that haven't built a life with a man. You can see the misery and bitterness in their eyes.

Marriage makes sense when female nature is controlled better, but those days are long gone in the West.
11-06-2019 01:57 PM
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And as many modern guys find out the hard way, marriage doesn't necessarily mean HAVING female company, either. it's really a bad situation with no easy answers.

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RE: Blaming men or women for the harder dating market
(11-06-2019 01:09 PM)WombRaider Wrote:  I haven't seen many examples of guys who are content to live out their lives with no female company (gays excepted). Of course there are a few here and there. But there are a few women here and there who are content to live that way, too. I have had some female relatives who stayed single after being widowed, and they were adept at creating a full life with church, relatives, and friends.

The LORD God said, “It is not good for the man to be alone. I will make a helper suitable for him.” - Genesis 2:18 (NIV)

Consulting the Manufacturer's manual tells us: It's by design. It's like complaining about combustion engine needing oil to do its job.

Also comparing a man to a woman being able to survive without a husband (depending on an inverted society run by female masters and male slaves) tells us nothing worthwhile. The Bible doesn't say "It is not good for the woman to be alone. I will make a helper suitable for her."

Man and woman aren't in a competition on who is the better human. They complement each other in union with God.
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(11-06-2019 04:52 PM)wwtl Wrote:  The LORD God said, “It is not good for the man to be alone. I will make a helper suitable for him.” - Genesis 2:18 (NIV)

Not valid. The King James Version is the only accurate one.
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It wasn't good for man to be alone when there was literally one person on the planet.

The New Testament says it's better to remain celibate, if you can, and not to seek a wife if you come to Christ while unmarried. But it makes an exception for marriage in the case of too much sexual desire, as St. Paul writes that it is "better to marry than to burn with passion." Protestants completely disregard monasticism and pressure their followers to all get married, as if there is anything wrong with someone devoting their lives to God instead of a spouse. The Bible says the exact opposite. Marriage is holy and blessed by the Church. But so is celibacy.

Celibate doesn't mean "alone" though, except for romantically and sexually, because you should always have a strong network of social relationships even without a spouse (and maybe even more so if you do).

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In modern America I feel like even the during the wedding ceremony for Orthodox when Ephesians 5 is read, people are sticking their fingers in their ears and doing something like the children do when they go "da da da" so as not to hear. Or maybe they just aren't paying attention in the first place. LOL

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(11-06-2019 08:50 PM)WombRaider Wrote:  
(11-06-2019 04:52 PM)wwtl Wrote:  The LORD God said, “It is not good for the man to be alone. I will make a helper suitable for him.” - Genesis 2:18 (NIV)

Not valid. The King James Version is the only accurate one.

As a Protestant I usually read the original translations by Luther himself, or a modern literal translation of the Textus Receptus, but those aren't in English. So as a non-native speaker of English I have not much use for the hard to decipher KJV.

(11-06-2019 08:58 PM)MichaelWitcoff Wrote:  It wasn't good for man to be alone when there was literally one person on the planet.

Interestingly there was already the animal kingdom around, which - as we know - can kinda satisfy older single women. But as Genesis 2:19-20 specifies, for the man no animal surrogate was suitable.

For me that's a pretty good explanation of "male thirst" - a weakness Satan happily exploits.

Quote:The New Testament says it's better to remain celibate, if you can, and not to seek a wife if you come to Christ while unmarried. But it makes an exception for marriage in the case of too much sexual desire, as St. Paul writes that it is "better to marry than to burn with passion." Protestants completely disregard monasticism and pressure their followers to all get married, as if there is anything wrong with someone devoting their lives to God instead of a spouse. The Bible says the exact opposite. Marriage is holy and blessed by the Church. But so is celibacy.

So far, I didn't experience this pressure myself. And I think in the degenerate West there should be more pressure to marry especially on younger people of both genders.

Now Paul talks about his gift right before the verse you quoted in 1 Corinthians 7 and Paul is a Saint. People desperately writing messages to a fake account on Facebook are not - and obviously are not gifted with what Paul got, but called for marriage.

So for me the Word provides the most logical explanation of what is happening. While certain schools like MGTOW like to promote male singleness for anybody from a secular PoV, it simply doesn't match up with what the design manual says - marking MGTOW as another heresy of satanic origins.
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