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RE: The truth about the flat earth
(11-11-2019 09:49 PM)RIslander Wrote:  
(11-11-2019 09:38 PM)SilentOne Wrote:  Also there is no scientific experiment displaying the phenomena known as gravity. Not a single one.

I think Physical Oceanographers would beg to differ when it comes to studying the moon's affect on tides. Also studies have shown gravitational force decreases with altitude.

Lets stay away from the moon. None of us can actually get up there anyway to do experiments.

In fact show me any experiment where you see a large body mass pulling another smaller object in orbit around it.

Does gravity pull things in orbit or does it keep people stuck on the land they standing on? Which is it?
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(11-11-2019 05:06 PM)Kona Wrote:  
(11-11-2019 04:25 PM)The bone Wrote:  By the way, anyone who doesn’t believe the earth is flat, could they please give me their number one scientific proof as to why it is?

I can prove it real quickly by harnessing the power of this forum. Ready? Here goes:

Hey Australian guys, is the sun out, or is it night time?

It may take one a while to answer, because they may be sleeping, but give it time. Just wait for it.

Aloha!

This was 5 and a half hours ago.

None have responded. I think a few of them were already CIA plants, but I hope the rest of our Australians were not killed over this.

Are you guys ok?

Aloha!
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RE: The truth about the flat earth
Why people get emotional? I think outside of reputation.

Its the fear of taking a fake red pill which traps them into another matrix.

Thinking they are actually in the know but actually trapped in a delusion.

Its like bring freed from a cult only to be hoodwinked into another destructive cult enslaved again to a false reality. Never truly arriving at the truth.
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RE: The truth about the flat earth
(11-11-2019 05:56 PM)robreke Wrote:  
(11-11-2019 05:41 PM)joost Wrote:  
(11-11-2019 04:25 PM)The bone Wrote:  By the way, anyone who doesn’t believe the earth is flat, could they please give me their number one scientific proof as to why it is?

All stars are round. Just stare at the moon or the sun (with protection).

@kona gave a good example. Just call someone in a different time zone and ask if it still daylight. Call a close friend or relative so you won't think it's someone conspiring against you.Dodgy


If you're trolling, congrats.

Those and the moon we see are all flat too. They're just giant pancakes all facing us flat-face on.

The Canadian space program is all about taking advantage of the future giant space maple syrup market.

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(11-11-2019 05:11 PM)scorpion Wrote:  Flat Earth is nonsense designed to poison the well

You're giving people too much credit. Attention is the main currency of the 21st century. To some, any attention is better than no attention. It seems to me most (maybe not all) flat earthers are actually just trolling for fun but they don't genuinely believe the earth is flat. It's mostly a satire like the Church of the Subgenius or the Flying Spaghetti Monster or the dihydrogen monoxide conspiracy *. But to have the intended effect of fooling people into thinking it's legit it must be played perfectly straight like an Andy Kaufman act.


* For those who visited that site and actually started to believe the fearmongering, DHMO is another word for water.
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RE: The truth about the flat earth
(11-12-2019 12:05 AM)questor70 Wrote:  
(11-11-2019 05:11 PM)scorpion Wrote:  Flat Earth is nonsense designed to poison the well

You're giving people too much credit. Attention is the main currency of the 21st century. To some, any attention is better than no attention. It seems to me most (maybe not all) flat earthers are actually just trolling for fun but they don't genuinely believe the earth is flat. It's mostly a satire like the Church of the Subgenius or the Flying Spaghetti Monster or the dihydrogen monoxide conspiracy *. But to have the intended effect of fooling people into thinking it's legit it must be played perfectly straight like an Andy Kaufman act.


* For those who visited that site and actually started to believe the fearmongering, DHMO is another word for water.

Nope. Unless you are talking about women, attention isn't the main currency. It's Time.

Its the only thing in this reality that you can't get back.

Every year there's 12hrs in a day, 7 days in the week, and 12 months in a year(well...technically 13).

It's a well orchestrated construct that we choose to follow. In a sense we are stuck on a 7 day loop, known as a week. It's pretty detail but I don't feel like derailing this thread.
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RE: The truth about the flat earth
(11-11-2019 10:41 PM)Kona Wrote:  
(11-11-2019 05:06 PM)Kona Wrote:  
(11-11-2019 04:25 PM)The bone Wrote:  By the way, anyone who doesn’t believe the earth is flat, could they please give me their number one scientific proof as to why it is?

I can prove it real quickly by harnessing the power of this forum. Ready? Here goes:

Hey Australian guys, is the sun out, or is it night time?

It may take one a while to answer, because they may be sleeping, but give it time. Just wait for it.

Aloha!

This was 5 and a half hours ago.

None have responded. I think a few of them were already CIA plants, but I hope the rest of our Australians were not killed over this.

Are you guys ok?

Aloha!

It's very difficult to explain. It may be 5 and a half hours ago for you, but it's already tomorrow afternoon here, so that post was over 24 hours ago. I couldn't post before or it would've been yesterday when I posted and I can't reply to something that hasn't happened yet. (((They))) are very strict about futureposting. All Australians know this.

When the CIA invented GMT they decided to advance Australian time a fair bit. That's why our national anthem is "Advance Australia Fair".

That's also why when we say that Americans are retarded, we mean it only in the technical sense. Hawaiians are even more retarded, in terms of time that is. It's still last night there and I'm replying from tomorrow night.
Hope this clears things up.

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11-12-2019 01:20 AM
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RE: The truth about the flat earth
(11-12-2019 01:20 AM)Tex Cruise Wrote:  
(11-11-2019 10:41 PM)Kona Wrote:  
(11-11-2019 05:06 PM)Kona Wrote:  
(11-11-2019 04:25 PM)The bone Wrote:  By the way, anyone who doesn’t believe the earth is flat, could they please give me their number one scientific proof as to why it is?

I can prove it real quickly by harnessing the power of this forum. Ready? Here goes:

Hey Australian guys, is the sun out, or is it night time?

It may take one a while to answer, because they may be sleeping, but give it time. Just wait for it.

Aloha!

This was 5 and a half hours ago.

None have responded. I think a few of them were already CIA plants, but I hope the rest of our Australians were not killed over this.

Are you guys ok?

Aloha!

It's very difficult to explain. It may be 5 and a half hours ago for you, but it's already tomorrow afternoon here, so that post was over 24 hours ago. I couldn't post before or it would've been yesterday when I posted and I can't reply to something that hasn't happened yet. (((They))) are very strict about futureposting. All Australians know this.

When the CIA invented GMT they decided to advance Australian time a fair bit. That's why our national anthem is "Advance Australia Fair".

That's also why when we say that Americans are retarded, we mean it only in the technical sense. Hawaiians are even more retarded, in terms of time that is. It's still last night there and I'm replying from tomorrow night.
Hope this clears things up.

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Video of Tex Cruise right efore he posted that. Its what Australians do.



But some goid comes out of it. Notice the daylight. Its dark here. Guess what? The world is round! Great news.

Aloha!
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RE: The truth about the flat earth
(11-10-2019 08:20 PM)jackthenerd Wrote:  But the flat earth arguments on the other hand are very simple (and you actually have arguments that doesn't appeal to authority). Here's how flat earthers would debunk your entire argument with the video you linked. What is interesting about that is that it works (the stuff in the video) under two spesific situations / conditions. The first is that the sun is as large and as far away as main-stream science tells you, the other is that it's 3000 miles away. THAT is the model the flat earth guys goes with. The MATH works on the flat earth model. I've done the math, it works. If just a simple mathematical argument could disprove the entire flat earth, it wouldn't been a thing. That's what makes it so difficult to argue against it. Every single math and prediction that can be observed in real life can be done on the flat earth model with the same if not better precision.

What? The Sun is 3000 miles away? Like less than the distance from NY to LA? You claim to have "done the math", then how do you explain an eclipse during which the moon is between the Sun and Earth? By your logic the moon would then have to be closer than 3000 miles from the Earth. But we know for a fact that the moon is 239,000 miles from Earth. How do we know this? Because we placed reflectors on the surface of the moon, and by measuring the time it takes for a signal to return to the earth after being reflected from the moon we can calculate the distance (because EM waves travel in a vacuum at 186,000 miles/sec.). There are other ways to determine the distance to the moon, but this is the coolest way. None of this is an "Appeal to Authority", it's just based upon known facts, deductive logic, and experimentation in the real World.



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To say the Bible says the earth is flat is ridiculous. Where is your proof?

Look what it says here:
https://biblehub.com/isaiah/40-22.htm
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Eddie Bravo is one of the most outspoken famous flat earth proponent.

Can the flat earther explain the following:

Why is the logo for 10th planet ju jitsu is a round earth?

What does Eddie Bravo consider as a planet? Is earth one of the 10/9 planets?


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The guy is a retard, he's only there to make Rogan look smart (and maybe to make "conspiracy theorists" look dumb).

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I saw a special on TV a while back about the antikythera mechanism, of which there have been several, like this one. When that was found and ultimately reverse-engineered and recreated, it redefined our perception of the history of technology. We think of clockworks as being a product of maybe no earlier than the 14 or 1500s, but this thing went much further back. That machine modeled an earth-centered solar system, so it was sort of a rube goldberg device, but there was a scientific method that allowed for theories to evolve and be replaced as the body of knowledge grew...all the way back with the Greeks. They weren't so beholden on any one theory that they would reject a new one just for the sake of holding onto the status quo. They were on the path of progress. Astronomy was key to human survival all the way back as the neolithic due to the need to measure the seasons. Not only that, but without light pollution, the clear night sky was a huge source of wonder.

This wedge that's been driven between science and religion is really more of a new development, a sense that the more we find out about the world around us, the less pious we'll become, especially thanks to Darwin. But the fact is you can't put the genie back in the bottle. And you can't pick and choose what science you want to reject. You can't take full advantage of scientific principles that have brought us all our modern conveniences (like GPS and google earth) on the one hand and dismiss something as basic as the earth being a sphere just because it seems to contradict a literal interpretation of the bible.

I mean, it probably won't be long before companies like Virgin Galactic will be offering joyrides to the well-heeled to take a parabolic flight into space and back, way beyond the point where the spherical shape of the earth becomes visible. We have a space station in orbit that is clearly visible passing by if you know where to look, and countless hours of footage of the earth from space, like the live footage SpaceX streams every time they send up a Falcon. There's simply no rational case to be made for flat earth. That won't stop some people from believing in it, I know, but they have to accept how little traction such a claim will ever achieve, and why.
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(11-12-2019 05:43 PM)themaxx Wrote:  To say the Bible says the earth is flat is ridiculous. Where is your proof?

Look what it says here:
https://biblehub.com/isaiah/40-22.htm

Well it kinda does... Confused

Daniel 4:10-11, Mathews 4:8
Seeing all of the Earth from a tall mountain/tree

Psalms 96:10, 1 Chronicles 16:30
Earth being firm and immovable
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But you can't see all the earth from the top of Everest, or any other mountain, you can barely see 1% of it. When you go up the top of a big island volcano like in Hawaii or the Canaries, you do see the horizon getting higher and further away the higher you go up in altitude, as expected on a globe. But you will never see beyond the horizon, even on a clear day.

The earth is firm and immovable, that's how you can build tall buildings on solid foundations, seismic activity notwithstanding.

Spectrumwalker's videos of Pastor Anderson above are a good start to debunk Flat Earth from a Christian perspective.

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Ever see the sun rise in the west while climbing in an airplane? I saw it once... pretty cool. I think that can about wind up this theory.




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(11-12-2019 07:25 PM)911 Wrote:  But you can't see all the earth from the top of Everest, or any other mountain, you can barely see 1% of it. When you go up the top of a big island volcano like in Hawaii or the Canaries, you do see the horizon getting higher and further away the higher you go up in altitude, as expected on a globe. But you will never see beyond the horizon, even on a clear day.

The earth is firm and immovable, that's how you can build tall buildings on solid foundations, seismic activity notwithstanding.

Spectrumwalker's videos of Pastor Anderson above are a good start to debunk Flat Earth from a Christian perspective.


Everest isn't that high up.
On the ground, human eyes can only see so far.
Then telescopes helps them see even further than that, but it too has its limits.

The way I read that verse is the Earth isn't twirling or spinning 1000mph out somewhere in Space.

But more importantly it's impossible to see all of Earth from a tall tree/mountain on a globe earth. It doesn't make sense if you're a bible follower, that is.
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RE: The truth about the flat earth
(11-12-2019 07:06 PM)SilentOne Wrote:  
(11-12-2019 05:43 PM)themaxx Wrote:  To say the Bible says the earth is flat is ridiculous. Where is your proof?

Look what it says here:
https://biblehub.com/isaiah/40-22.htm

Well it kinda does... Confused

Daniel 4:10-11, Mathews 4:8
Seeing all of the Earth from a tall mountain/tree

Psalms 96:10, 1 Chronicles 16:30
Earth being firm and immovable

This is what the Earth looked like to most of the ancient world.

[Image: 12345503_1530166443965413_192483906855360177_n1.jpg]

Listen to Dr Heiser, who is a biblical scholar and has debunked flat earth.

https://drmsh.com/tag/flat-earth/

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