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RE: My wife doesn't love me anymore and I think we will get divorced. What should I do?
(11-19-2019 08:30 PM)SnowHugger Wrote:  It also looks like we need to be separated for a year before we can file for divorce.

If there's no adultery, I'll be in the US anyway. But still have to come back later to get it done.

Unresolved legal marital issues will screw with your Visa, Green Card and Citizenship in the US.

Well, maybe not a TN Visa, but definitely everything else. This is mostly because you cannot be a bigamist or polygamist. They ask a lot of marriage questions and ask for documents, also because they are concerned that you are hiding domestic violence charges etc. Marriage questions are second in volume to straight up criminal questions if I remember.

Dont' ignore it, and don't let it simmer. Ask her to check the adultery check box after you two are no longer living together, or just check it yourself. It will be a sure thing by then.

Why do the heathen rage and the people imagine a vain thing? Psalm 2:1 KJV
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RE: My wife doesn't love me anymore and I think we will get divorced. What should I do?
Howard, you're entitled to your opinion no matter how wrong you are. You give advice like a used up old hag who watches Dr. Phil so stop projecting at me. Ask someone who's a priest, pastor, what the grounds for divorce are and then come talk at me boomer.

Blind still leading the blind here. Why would he take marriage advice from used up divorced, broken people who've damaged themselves with multiple divorces? I thought all the rule changes were to start giving advice from a Christian perspective not a "womb raider" perspective. Divorce is serious, his first step it to find out if infidelity has occurred.
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If it’s not a Christian marriage - which it isn’t - then the woman can just dissolve it on a whim, with or without good reason, exactly as is happening here. He probably doesn’t have a say in whether he ends up divorced at this rate, hence the advice for how to deal with the fallout.

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(11-19-2019 09:19 PM)MichaelWitcoff Wrote:  If it’s not a Christian marriage - which it isn’t - then the woman can just dissolve it on a whim, with or without good reason, exactly as is happening here. He probably doesn’t have a say in whether he ends up divorced at this rate, hence the advice for how to deal with the fallout.

Even if it is a Christian marriage. I don't know where everyone is getting the idea that all Christian women are beacons of morality. From my experience, many if not most of the Christian women I've met are not too dissimilar to your standard atheist woman in terms of morals. Christian needs to be a starting point in a long list of shit tests before starting a relationship with a woman.

Today we have chapels that advocate gay marriage, led by demonic priests that disregard the bible. Hundreds of thousands of Christian women can be found in Chapels like this across the west that are being preached to by a faggot priest working for the devil. I'll say it again. Christianity is just a starting point.
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(11-19-2019 09:12 PM)PainPositive Wrote:  I thought all the rule changes were to start giving advice from a Christian perspective not a "womb raider" perspective.

What is wrong with raiding the marital womb?
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RE: My wife doesn't love me anymore and I think we will get divorced. What should I do?
Sorry this happened to you, SnowHugger. To put things into perspective, imagine if you had 3 kids, a mortgage, a job you hated and your wife had a legal team ready to take you to the cleaners. In comparison, your situation is a lot simpler.

It's time to end the marriage. You can't talk your way into having a woman love you, even if she loved you before. As to whether you should move out, that depends on how you're getting along. If it's amicable, it might be worth staying until you leave for the U.S. If not, maybe a long-stay hotel would be a better option.
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(11-19-2019 07:47 PM)WombRaider Wrote:  
(11-19-2019 07:26 PM)PainPositive Wrote:  ^You know exactly zero about marriage or women. Never take marriage/women/relationship advice who calls himself womb raider.

Take it from me OP, womb raiders don't have your best interests at heart. They want you to be right there next to them "raiding wombs" and anything less than that is "beta, cucked, or bad game".

Don't take advice from pussy hounds about your marriage. If you follow that type of advice you'll be sad, alone, and asking women where to find the petshop at 55. Ever see a dude in his 60's doing daygame? It's sad.

You'd think after seeing all the young men who've been ruined from taking that advice people here would be a little less keen on giving it.

If your wife admits cheating you're free and clear to divorce her but otherwise you should think carefully about what to do. A divorce can have lasting effects on all your future relationships. Make sure you know what you're doing before you just divorce her over something other than adultery.

Unfortunately, my name is more aspirational than factual. And I know exactly what I'm talking about in this case. Having learned the hard way.

Also, the wife is never, ever going to admit to cheating. If he wants to be sure, he'll need to do some snooping. Probably a lost cause in this case, since from what he's saying, she doesn't view continuing the marriage as an option.

I had a brief fling with someone who was more or less a friend awhile back. She was living with her boyfriend at the time. (If you're wondering, the grievances were 1) He played too many video games, 2) He didn't have sex with her, and 3) He spent too much time with his friends on the weekends.)

After a couple of months, she started talking about moving out so she could be with me. I tried telling her that she should really make decisions based on what was best for her rather than to pursue anyone. Things got colder and we eventually stopped talking.

Last I checked, they had just bought a house together. I guess they worked things out Banana (Meaning: He kept playing video games and she found something else to keep herself occupied. I highly doubt they talked through the issues.)

Moral of the story: This girl raised fewer red flags for her SO than SnowHugger's wife. Women don't get to that point until they've finished six months of negotiations with another interested buyer and signed the paperwork.

(On the bright side, SnowHugger is otherwise in a great place: More money and a new country. Things could be infinitely worse.)
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(11-19-2019 11:43 PM)Vilmore Wrote:  (If you're wondering, the grievances were 1) He played too many video games, 2) He didn't have sex with her, and 3) He spent too much time with his friends on the weekends.)

It's frustrating because, if you don't play video games and don't spend too much time with friends on weekends (not sure about sex though, it may vary), you still end up in the situation of OP. There is just no way I found to frigging satisfy a live-in wife/gf.
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(11-19-2019 09:19 PM)MichaelWitcoff Wrote:  If it’s not a Christian marriage - which it isn’t - then the woman can just dissolve it on a whim, with or without good reason, exactly as is happening here. He probably doesn’t have a say in whether he ends up divorced at this rate, hence the advice for how to deal with the fallout.

Well, my frame of reference for Christian marriages is Orthodox ones, which have an incredibly low divorce rate. It's basically looked down upon by the entire community, as a failure of proper commitment and love, and not something people flaunt or threaten their spouses with often. Very very different from your average secular marriage, which as far as I'm concerned is a pointless contract with the government that most women have no problem dissolving. I think the OP's cause is a lost one, because the woman's already got one foot out the door.

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(11-19-2019 09:12 PM)PainPositive Wrote:  Howard, you're entitled to your opinion no matter how wrong you are. You give advice like a used up old hag who watches Dr. Phil so stop projecting at me. Ask someone who's a priest, pastor, what the grounds for divorce are and then come talk at me boomer.

Blind still leading the blind here. Why would he take marriage advice from used up divorced, broken people who've damaged themselves with multiple divorces? I thought all the rule changes were to start giving advice from a Christian perspective not a "womb raider" perspective. Divorce is serious, his first step it to find out if infidelity has occurred.

1. Pastoral advice. The conservative southern baptist church I went to had the following stance for married couples nearing divorce where one of the spouses approached the church: There is no divorce, just separation. If a spouse had left the home to go and do drugs or be an adulterer the pastor or deacons would track that person down and confront them. If it was domestic violence, or prison, you would separate but no one was getting remarried. The liberal church(es) I've gone to have no rules on divorce, they follow the government/secular lines of "you have to do whats right for you". The baptist church didn't go out and stick its nose into secular marriages, or those of non-church members, they would want you to come to Christ first. That is the case here, secular marriage.

2. Finding out if infidelity has occurred. Infidelity has occurred.If the front door of your house is kicked in, the place is ransacked and the door is broken off of the safe would you say "wait, don't call the police, we need to confirm that something was actually stolen". This woman is unrepentantly telling her spouse that she has feelings for a coworker and has been spending time outside of work with him. She has said that she also wants a divorce and has taken the position that 'nothing has happened' with this coworker. Your advice is "ask her if she has slept with this man, if she says yes divorce, if she says no reconcile". What about factoring in that she may lie in her response to that question, as virtually everyone does. Her specific "acts" with this man matter much less than her attitude. If she came to her husband with the attitude of "I have made a mistake, I slept with a co-worker, I regret it but don't know how to end it, would you forgive me" we would be having a different discussion versus "I don't love you, I figured this out after I developed feelings for a co-worker that I spend time with outside of work. Nothing happened though, trust me, but I do want a divorce"

OP may be getting harsh perspectives from broken people, but your advice is too simplistic and naive.

I do agree that the forum should include Christian advice from those of use that are, and my advice is that the OP build a relationship with Christ. Approaching his marital troubles from a Christian perspective when neither of them are practicing Christians is putting the cart before the horse.

Why do the heathen rage and the people imagine a vain thing? Psalm 2:1 KJV
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All I'd like to add is - don't let embracing the spiritual side push you back towards the blue pill. Both knowledge (represented by game and redpill) and spirituality (represented by religion) are important.
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(11-19-2019 08:58 PM)Dr. Howard Wrote:  
(11-19-2019 08:30 PM)SnowHugger Wrote:  It also looks like we need to be separated for a year before we can file for divorce.

If there's no adultery, I'll be in the US anyway. But still have to come back later to get it done.

Unresolved legal marital issues will screw with your Visa, Green Card and Citizenship in the US.

Well, maybe not a TN Visa, but definitely everything else. This is mostly because you cannot be a bigamist or polygamist. They ask a lot of marriage questions and ask for documents, also because they are concerned that you are hiding domestic violence charges etc. Marriage questions are second in volume to straight up criminal questions if I remember.

Dont' ignore it, and don't let it simmer. Ask her to check the adultery check box after you two are no longer living together, or just check it yourself. It will be a sure thing by then.

Well, I talked to her yesterday about this. Let her know that we need to be separated for a year before filing for divorce or we can file immediately if there's cruelty or adultery. She said let's just tick the 'adultery' checkbox. But now, because we have to say who cheated, she's not so sure about doing it.
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(11-20-2019 09:01 AM)SnowHugger Wrote:  Well, I talked to her yesterday about this. Let her know that we need to be separated for a year before filing for divorce or we can file immediately if there's cruelty or adultery. She said let's just tick the 'adultery' checkbox. But now, because we have to say who cheated, she's not so sure about doing it.

Then say (calmly and cheerfully), "It's no problem for me to wait the year, but I got the feeling that you wanted to get on with your life without such a long delay. We both agree that there's no reason not to make this as quick and painless as possible, right?"

When she says that YOU should be the one who cheated on the paperwork... (If she has the gall...)

"If these were not legal documents, it really wouldn't matter to me. But it's too much risk to sign our names to a false legal document. We both have futures to think about."

Always try to paint a picture of how "bright and happy" her future is going to be once she is free and clear. Her impulses are key to getting her to take the easy way. This is delicate work, and you will have to be a good actor.
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(11-20-2019 08:15 AM)Dr. Howard Wrote:  
(11-19-2019 09:12 PM)PainPositive Wrote:  Howard, you're entitled to your opinion no matter how wrong you are. You give advice like a used up old hag who watches Dr. Phil so stop projecting at me. Ask someone who's a priest, pastor, what the grounds for divorce are and then come talk at me boomer.

Blind still leading the blind here. Why would he take marriage advice from used up divorced, broken people who've damaged themselves with multiple divorces? I thought all the rule changes were to start giving advice from a Christian perspective not a "womb raider" perspective. Divorce is serious, his first step it to find out if infidelity has occurred.

1. Pastoral advice. The conservative southern baptist church I went to had the following stance for married couples nearing divorce where one of the spouses approached the church: There is no divorce, just separation. If a spouse had left the home to go and do drugs or be an adulterer the pastor or deacons would track that person down and confront them. If it was domestic violence, or prison, you would separate but no one was getting remarried. The liberal church(es) I've gone to have no rules on divorce, they follow the government/secular lines of "you have to do whats right for you". The baptist church didn't go out and stick its nose into secular marriages, or those of non-church members, they would want you to come to Christ first. That is the case here, secular marriage.

2. Finding out if infidelity has occurred. Infidelity has occurred.If the front door of your house is kicked in, the place is ransacked and the door is broken off of the safe would you say "wait, don't call the police, we need to confirm that something was actually stolen". This woman is unrepentantly telling her spouse that she has feelings for a coworker and has been spending time outside of work with him. She has said that she also wants a divorce and has taken the position that 'nothing has happened' with this coworker. Your advice is "ask her if she has slept with this man, if she says yes divorce, if she says no reconcile". What about factoring in that she may lie in her response to that question, as virtually everyone does. Her specific "acts" with this man matter much less than her attitude. If she came to her husband with the attitude of "I have made a mistake, I slept with a co-worker, I regret it but don't know how to end it, would you forgive me" we would be having a different discussion versus "I don't love you, I figured this out after I developed feelings for a co-worker that I spend time with outside of work. Nothing happened though, trust me, but I do want a divorce"

OP may be getting harsh perspectives from broken people, but your advice is too simplistic and naive.

I do agree that the forum should include Christian advice from those of use that are, and my advice is that the OP build a relationship with Christ. Approaching his marital troubles from a Christian perspective when neither of them are practicing Christians is putting the cart before the horse.

I think this is the correct tone. I earlier posted a strong statement that SH should consider himself the prize, and the one who has suffered the offense, rather than kicking himself for causing her to leave by not putting her on a high enough pedestal. I still believe this is true. Society naturally views things from the woman's point of view, not the man's, and even though this forum is less red pill than it used to be, I still think we should discipline ourselves to see things from the man's point of view, which is justified in this case.

I also strongly recommended he cast her out and divorce her with extreme prejudice. The way I worded this certainly came off as bitter. Of course, I am bitter about such things, but it's important to fight against bitterness as a general life rule.

PainPositive advises trying to make the marriage work so long as there is no proof of adultery on her part. He advises this on Christian grounds. OP is not a Christian, although I agree he should be come one. The bible says if we are married to a non-believer, we should stay married to them, and we might thereby bring them to Christ as well. The bible also says only adultery is grounds for divorce.

First of all, it seems very, very likely to me the wife has already cheated, and that it would be difficult to get her to admit to it without prior proof. In this case, like so many previous posters, I think it is reasonable to proceed as if it is known.

However, even if she has not actually cheated, she has lost attraction to him, she is attracted to another man, and she wants the divorce. If he begs her to stay, he will be in such a losing situation, that his life will be ruined. I do not see how he could possibly have a happy marriage with her after this. Maybe if he alphas up and develops a strong new frame that wins her love back, he could save the marriage. This is the premise of Married Man Sex Life, which used to be very good back in 2011, but has become very blue pill in recent years.

It is possible to do this, and so perhaps SH is obligated to make the effort until he can confirm adultery. However, the odds of success are very low, and he looks like a sucker in her eyes to even try at this point. Even if his goal was to salvage the relationship, he should go with hard core divorce and no contact as a strategy of extreme dread, and he should optimize his own life, so he looks as good as possible as she sees him walking out of her life. This may cause her to come crawling back to him.

However, when she comes crawling back, she will certainly have other men's sperm dripping out of her as she does it.

All things considered, the argument for avoiding divorce based on Christian principles must be considered, but in this case, immediate divorce seems like the correct conclusion.

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While I can appreciate PainPositive's sentiments about trying to do all you can to save a marriage, in this case I don't think Snow Hugger has this option anymore. She's cheated on him, her heart and mind are in a different place and she doesn't want to be with him anymore. Yes, God frown's upon divorce and yes divorce is a tragic occurrence and everything should be done to avoid it but at this point, there's very little SnowHugger can do to stop this. Once a woman has cheated and has one foot out the door, your mentality towards her has to change. It becomes a battle, a battle for survival and a battle to maintain one's sanity and he has no choice but to approach it like that. Guys that don't adopt that mentality get destroyed in divorces. God may frown upon divorce but God will not frown upon you fighting for your survival when the war is brought to you. If SnowHugger can get her to admit she cheated or can find proof that she cheated, then I think he can divorce her with a clear conscience. Even if he doesn't, the fact that she wants to end the marriage leaves him with few options but to proceed forth.
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(11-20-2019 11:32 AM)RoastBeefCurtains4Me Wrote:  
(11-20-2019 08:15 AM)Dr. Howard Wrote:  
(11-19-2019 09:12 PM)PainPositive Wrote:  Howard, you're entitled to your opinion no matter how wrong you are. You give advice like a used up old hag who watches Dr. Phil so stop projecting at me. Ask someone who's a priest, pastor, what the grounds for divorce are and then come talk at me boomer.

Blind still leading the blind here. Why would he take marriage advice from used up divorced, broken people who've damaged themselves with multiple divorces? I thought all the rule changes were to start giving advice from a Christian perspective not a "womb raider" perspective. Divorce is serious, his first step it to find out if infidelity has occurred.

1. Pastoral advice. The conservative southern baptist church I went to had the following stance for married couples nearing divorce where one of the spouses ....

OP may be getting harsh perspectives from broken people, but your advice is too simplistic and naive.

I do agree that the forum should include Christian advice from those of use that are, and my advice is that the OP build a relationship with Christ. Approaching his marital troubles from a Christian perspective when neither of them are practicing Christians is putting the cart before the horse.

....

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However, when she comes crawling back, she will certainly have other men's sperm dripping out of her as she does it.

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a vulgar, yet accurate and succinct statement. She's not going to sit at home crying during the separation period, especially if she requested it.

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You are not in this world to take care of unloyal people, specially in this case that she is your wife. Run.
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(11-20-2019 09:01 AM)SnowHugger Wrote:  
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(11-19-2019 08:30 PM)SnowHugger Wrote:  It also looks like we need to be separated for a year before we can file for divorce.

If there's no adultery, I'll be in the US anyway. But still have to come back later to get it done.

Unresolved legal marital issues will screw with your Visa, Green Card and Citizenship in the US.

Well, maybe not a TN Visa, but definitely everything else. This is mostly because you cannot be a bigamist or polygamist. They ask a lot of marriage questions and ask for documents, also because they are concerned that you are hiding domestic violence charges etc. Marriage questions are second in volume to straight up criminal questions if I remember.

Dont' ignore it, and don't let it simmer. Ask her to check the adultery check box after you two are no longer living together, or just check it yourself. It will be a sure thing by then.

Well, I talked to her yesterday about this. Let her know that we need to be separated for a year before filing for divorce or we can file immediately if there's cruelty or adultery. She said let's just tick the 'adultery' checkbox. But now, because we have to say who cheated, she's not so sure about doing it.

Even if she hasn't sucked this guys dick yet* she's definitely thought about it and will soon.

Intent is primary.

She has committed adultery

* Women rarely leave the security of the known (a marriage) for the unknown (a new relationship) without have established a "beachfront"

(11-17-2019 11:52 AM)SnowHugger Wrote:  She said she was unhappy a while ago, and I had a feeling it was due to me becoming lazy in the relationship. Thought I was getting it back on track after that conversation.

The above is likely when she first got vagina tingles from this other dude at work.

Unfortunately this is another case of a man erroneously thinking that marriage was the end of the Game rather than realizing its just the beginning.

A man's emotional complacency = woman's emotional boredom.

In the modern world a emotional boredom is viewed akin to torture by young women

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11-20-2019 01:04 PM
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RE: My wife doesn't love me anymore and I think we will get divorced. What should I do?
Alright. Time for me to comment. Lots of criticisms of people that are divorced, in the sense that they shouldn't give advice. That's ridiculous. These people have been through it all. I guess the argument is ideological or even theological as in divorcees shouldn't have an opinion. To me that's as short sighted as it can get.

Look, divorce is a reality. Not some abomination that you need to do everything to stay away from. This time it's at your doorstep. You can keep the door shut but it seems it won't leave your porch.

Now, I'm saying this as a guy who has been married for 12 years. There are many days where we both could have said fuck it. However, we move forward, work out our differences as best as we can and respect each other. If we did not have our 3 kids, it may have been completely different.

I haven't read all the posts but it seems she's more or less admitted to it. Given you have no kids, my humble opinion would be to cut ties and move on. There's no saving this. I remember being on the other end of this and being the one committing semi-adultery. I went out with some women and made out with them and my wife gave me a choice. I chose to stay back due to various factors, kids being primary. My intention was never to leave my family and never to leave my wife. This is important.

This brings me to my next point. A lot of the newer guys and guys that haven't had much female interaction don't see it. Marriage is not about you and her. It's definitely not about sex and love. It's about starting and sustaining a family and pass down values to your next generation. If there is anything that gets in the way of that, you are screwed. Your wife not cooking, not cleaning and nagging you, does not constitute a bad marriage. It's reality. A shitty marriage is the one where you cheat (implying that the specific marriage is about you or her) or stop giving a shit about the kids or family. L

I'll just leave it there. I'm on mobile and could have been more articulate.

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11-20-2019 02:08 PM
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RE: My wife doesn't love me anymore and I think we will get divorced. What should I do?
^ Right. There's a difference in the way interest is maintained in LTRs.

As men, all the woman has to do to maintain our interest is to take care of her physical appearance and remain compliant.

In return woman expect us maintain our end of the bargain and continue to engage them not just physically but spiritually and emotionally too (through game.)

What happens is the woman continues to maintain the man's interest because taking care of their appearance and being compliant is like drinking water to them.

But the man stops gaming.

The best way to understand the OPs wife is to place yourself in her shoes, by that I mean, looking what would make the average man's interest levels drop.

How would the average man act if his wife of 3 years started to dress like shit, and stopped being compliant, arguing over minor shit, refusing sex etc ?

I'd be like fuck that I'm out.
11-20-2019 02:10 PM
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RE: My wife doesn't love me anymore and I think we will get divorced. What should I do?
It's insane that one needs to keep gaming forever. It's tiring and can't never let your guard down once. Once you do, it's over.
Is this really what the world has come to?
11-20-2019 09:48 PM
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(11-20-2019 09:48 PM)randomA Wrote:  It's insane that one needs to keep gaming forever. It's tiring and can't never let your guard down once. Once you do, it's over.
Is this really what the world has come to?

It's a manosphere trope, and highly unrealistic.

Realistically, marriage has to be enforced by society and law, and when it's not, it will tend not to be stable. One option in the modern world is to write marriage off as something that simply does not work under current conditions. The other option is to find someone who views you as far above her on the SMV scale. Then the "game" (and particularly dread) is baked in. You might need to head to another country to achieve this. And you'd better not fall down on your luck or get sick.
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RE: My wife doesn't love me anymore and I think we will get divorced. What should I do?
^ no gaming always happens it’s just you usually get used to it. GAming becomes second nature and effortless
11-20-2019 10:12 PM
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RE: My wife doesn't love me anymore and I think we will get divorced. What should I do?
Well fine, but my point is that when a family and kids are involved, I can't conceive the fact of having already so many responsibilities and yet having to handle my wife with game, without the chance of letting my guard down, otherwise my kids will have a broken family like everyone else because women suddenly just are not attracted or don't love you anymore. The thought just makes me want to go full blackpill and live like an hermit in a cabin on a mountain.
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(11-20-2019 10:25 PM)randomA Wrote:  Well fine, but my point is that when a family and kids are involved, I can't conceive the fact of having already so many responsibilities and yet having to handle my wife with game, without the chance of letting my guard down, otherwise my kids will have a broken family like everyone else because women suddenly just are not attracted or don't love you anymore. The thought just makes me want to go full blackpill and live like an hermit in a cabin on a mountain.

If you're depending on game techniques to keep your marriage together it's doomed to fail anyway. I'm not qualified to tell you how to keep a marriage together but I know that without God at the center of it it will inevitably be destroyed or become a disfigured version of marriage.

Thinking that Game is your God and is the end-all to your marriage and relationship issues is the kind of thinking that got us to where we are now- single, broken, jaded, and childless or with multiple divorces.

Don't make yourself out to be God because you have "experience" with hundreds of broken women, multiple divorces, and other garbage. We have to admit we're a lot like Hilary Clinton. We've got a lot of experience but it's bad experience.

Reject worldly advice, find out God's version of marriage, and His will is for your life.

This advice might sound simplistic but it will probably take a lot of prayer, humility, and learning to figure out.
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